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Winslow may have broken Leg
- This sucks for Cleveland. I don't know why he was playing special teams anyways.
Browns are contacting TE replacements The rookie season of tight end Kellen Winslow could be over, or at least severely truncated, after the Cleveland Browns' first-round draft choice suffered what is believed to be a fractured right fibula in Sunday's loss to the Dallas Cowboys. Coach Butch Davis said Winslow was taken for preliminary X-rays for a foot or ankle injury. He wouldn't elaborate or speculate on the extent of the injury. "It's wait and see right now," quarterback Jeff Garcia said. "We have to be prepared to move forward without him. This adds insult to injury." Team officials likely will wait until Monday, after more tests are completed, to determine the extent of the leg injury, sustained late in the game. But one team source and a league source confirmed late Sunday the Browns strongly suspect Winslow suffered a fracture. In the best-case scenario, a Cleveland source said, Winslow would miss 6-8 weeks. In fact, ESPN.com has learned that the Browns, already shorthanded at tight end because of a training camp injury to veteran Steve Heiden, on Sunday night began to contact some potential replacements at the position. Chad Mustard, who was with the Browns in 2003, will fly to Cleveland on Monday and could be signed. Mustard, 26, appeared in 10 games in 2003, and had four catches for 29 yards. He was in camp with Cleveland this summer but was released before the start of the season. The sixth overall choice in the draft, Winslow started each of the Browns' first two games and had five catches for 50 yard, including one reception for 11 yards on Sunday. After a long holdout and often acrimonious negotiations, the club signed the former University of Miami star to a six-year contract that could be worth as much as $40 million. Winslow was not the only Browns standout to leave the game early. Defensive end Courtney Brown, the top overall choice in the 2000 draft, suffered a severe mid-foot sprain that could sideline him the balance of the season. Defensive tackle Gerard Warren, the team's 2001 first-rounder, aggravated an existing pectoral muscle injury and could not finish the game.
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09-19-2004, 09:57 PM
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SOUL-JAH!!!!!!!
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09-19-2004, 10:00 PM
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I'm all broken up about it. He was playing special teams because it was an onside kick (hands team).
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09-19-2004, 10:01 PM
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09-19-2004, 10:06 PM
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But do you think he will still demand to be RotY?
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09-19-2004, 10:10 PM
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did he try to block somebody and get leveled again?
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09-19-2004, 10:11 PM
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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Probably not, but I expect him to announce that the team can go back to being the losers they were last year, since he won't be playing anymore this year.
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09-19-2004, 10:21 PM
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Toy Solider, apparently.
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09-19-2004, 10:30 PM
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"It's wait and see right now," quarterback Jeff Garcia said. "We have to be prepared to move forward without him. This adds insult to injury."
Considering the Browns passing game so far this year, I think for the fans it's more like adding injury to insult. |
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09-19-2004, 11:03 PM
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Besides that though, he is (was) on the punt block team, as the coaches think he could block a few.
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09-20-2004, 12:54 AM
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
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09-20-2004, 01:02 AM
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I have/had a $100 bet with a co-worker that he'd block a punt before the year was over..... damn....
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09-20-2004, 01:14 AM
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Serves him right for being such a jerk. What goes around comes around in my opinion.
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09-20-2004, 02:25 AM
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Maybe he still can/already has... i'm sure he has plenty of time to play madden now, in between yelling at cybergarcia for not getting him the ball more.. Last edited by Ragone : 09-20-2004 at 02:26 AM. |
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09-20-2004, 02:44 AM
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09-20-2004, 06:28 AM
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Karma, baby!
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09-20-2004, 07:15 AM
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On one hand... next to TO the guy is the biggest ass in the NFL. On the other hand I have him on my fantasy team. So this sucks!
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09-20-2004, 07:36 AM
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Right after the Draft, all the TV experts were already calling for him being Offensive Rookie of the Year this season.
I guess he's a longshot for that now...
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09-20-2004, 10:00 AM
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Cowboys didn't even do it. His own teammates did.
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09-20-2004, 10:06 AM
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Genius post! SI
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09-20-2004, 10:07 AM
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once again- this sentiment disgusts me. He "deserves" a broken leg ? Do you deserve one for wishing this on someone else ? |
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09-20-2004, 10:09 AM
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I think jerks deserve broken legs. And when I'm a jerk, I probably deserve one too. In fact, if I got a broken leg, I'd pretty much figure it was because of this post.
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09-20-2004, 10:16 AM
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Why they drafted him over Roy Williams I will never know.
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09-20-2004, 12:27 PM
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Does this mean he will pull a Michael Vick, and talk to side line reporters in a wheel chair or crutches, when the games are on tv? I mean at least when he played and was in the game the TV audience did not have to listen to him.
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09-20-2004, 02:34 PM
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Ha Ha If he was really a ''friggin'' soldier he would be out there next week. He'll probably demand a purple heart for his injury too.
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09-20-2004, 02:46 PM
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roy williams will be offensive rookie of the year. i gotta' thank cleveland again. helping us land him and kevin jones, beautiful.
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09-20-2004, 02:55 PM
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Thats not even funny I hope he gets well in time for next season.
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09-20-2004, 02:58 PM
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Next season? Dudes got to water ski in the summer man. Spend all the bling, bling and bust it on the dance floor. Next season...bah, he's got dough to spend man...
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09-20-2004, 03:18 PM
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Would have been better if they broke his jaw so they could wire his mouth shut.
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09-20-2004, 03:18 PM
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MEDIC!
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09-20-2004, 06:07 PM
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Hopefully someone puts a video of this on the net......like about RIGHT NOW!
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09-20-2004, 06:10 PM
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I agree, that would be better. |
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09-20-2004, 09:46 PM
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something tells me the Browns will not hurry things:
Monday, September 20, 2004 By John Clayton ESPN.com Kellen Winslow Jr.'s broken leg could cost him a $5.3675 million one-time roster bonus. Under terms of his six-year, $40 million contract with the Browns, Winslow gambled he would achieve one of 10 supposed easily achievable performance incentives. Those standards ranged from having 41 catches or 801 yards receiving or the simplest standard -- playing time. All Winslow had to do was participate in 35 percent of the Browns' offensive plays and he qualified for two sets of bonuses that would have given him $5.3675 million in 2005. Winslow is scheduled to undergo surgery Tuesday to repair a broken right fibula and is expected to miss eight to 10 weeks. Should the surgery go well and he makes it back on time, it still will be difficult for him to get the 35 percent playing time bonus because of the injury. The contract, negotiated by Carl and Kevin Poston, called for the bonuses to be tied to the 2004 season. Normally, there are rollover provisions in contracts similar to these, but Winslow's contract does not appear to have a rollover of the bonus for future years. Here are the terms of the contract: * He could earn a $2 million roster bonus if he reaches any of the qualifers. The bonus would be paid in two installments -- $1 million on April 1, 2005 and $1 million on April 1, 2006. "Player can earn Conditional Roster bonus for 2006-2009 only if 2005 Conditional Roster Bonus has already been earned," the contract states. The bonus is rolled over with qualifiers based on the same incentives package, but if the team isn't required to pay the first bonus, the second isn't applicable. Thus, Winslow has to try be back no later than 10 weeks just to be able to play the final four or five games, but that still may not leave him enough time to play 35 percent of the snaps. Last season, the Browns had 1,006 offensive snaps. This season, Cleveland had 110 snaps in the first two games, and Winslow played most of them. He would need to pick up more than 200 plays in the final month of the season just to get to the 35 percent minimum provision. That might be tough.
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09-20-2004, 09:51 PM
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All that means, CT, is he'll be holding out in the next couple of years demanding that money (and probably more).
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09-20-2004, 10:18 PM
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When Winslow gets back, will he drop from 50/90 to 45/45 before the next season? Cause thats what seems to happen to all of my receivers that get hurt first season in FOF. I've had 3 1st round receivers in my most current career take a major first season injury and dramatically drop within the last decade.
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09-20-2004, 11:21 PM
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Maybe its just me, but this is some exceeding stupid shit being thrown around by a bunch of Joe Schmo's sitting on their couch. Wishing someone to break bones for offending you sense about how a NFL player should act - well, there's something that seems pretty repulsive about that. |
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I sit in a recliner, thank you. Seriously, I can understand where you find it repulsive, but I think he deserves to have his jaw dislocated. People like him piss me off to no end and so I like to see people like him knocked on his ass. The man needs to be put in his place.
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09-22-2004, 09:20 AM
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Duckman- he made comments about a damn game, and that makes him deserved to get his jaw knocked in ? Why does he need to be "put in his place" ? |
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He has been notorious for running off at the mouth at Miami. That comment was the only one of many stupid ones. Here is a prime example: My old roommate Mike met him down at Miami about a year and half ago. Winslow and some of his posse' tried to get Mike and his friends kicked out of a club. Mike was sitting at a table with his friends when Winslow demanded that they moved becasue he said that particular table was "reserved for the Miami football team". When Mike told him that the table didn't have a "reserved" sign on it, he immediately called over a bouncer to have Mike and company removed. The bouncer told him that they don't reserve tables so Winslow stormed out of the club and told the club owner on the way out that he would never come to his place again. The owner came up to Mike and apologized and bought the table a free round of drinks. Mike is not a football fan so he had no idea who Kevin Winslow was. He only knew who Winslow was because the owner told him who he was after he stormed out with his posse'. I laughed my ass off because Mike can tell a good story. The man is a jerk and deserved to have his dick knocked in the dirt.
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09-28-2004, 09:37 PM
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09-28-2004, 09:42 PM
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...and he will lose $5.3m in bonus money. Poor baby, my heart bleeds for you, chump. Maybe next time you (and your father) will learn to speak softly and carry a big stick instead of a big mouth and chip on your shoulder?
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09-28-2004, 09:42 PM
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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I found it interesting that not only were he and his dad both #1 picks and TEs, but his dad also broke his leg during his rookie season.
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09-28-2004, 09:45 PM
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He will get that 5.3 back. You can count on that. Hes probably gonna holdout next preseason for more money.
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09-28-2004, 09:47 PM
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When will he be receiving his purple heart?
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09-28-2004, 09:50 PM
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The similarities get scarier. From what I hear, his father's name is Kellen Winslow also... 
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09-28-2004, 09:50 PM
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Man, real soldiers dont need no purple hearts.
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09-28-2004, 10:53 PM
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09-28-2004, 11:14 PM
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Funny cartoon.
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09-28-2004, 11:45 PM
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Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon. . . . .
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