Corey Dillon traded to....

Samdari · 04-19-2004, 03:25 PM

The Patsies for an "undisclosed" draft pick.

Won't it be disclosed when the player is actually picked, or at least ends up playing for the Ben Gals?

tucker342 · 04-19-2004, 03:26 PM

WOW. What a pick up for the Pats.

Suicane75 · 04-19-2004, 03:26 PM

IF he isn't a locker room problem this is a hell of a deal for New England.

WSUCougar · 04-19-2004, 03:27 PM

Wow, that one blind-slided me.

*scurries off to adjust draft board*

Samdari · 04-19-2004, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

*scurries off to adjust draft board*

Yah, and I posted mine, as well as many theories about Steven Jackson's draft status being inflated due to the competition for him.

spleen1015 · 04-19-2004, 03:28 PM

I read this and think...

Repeat.

rkmsuf · 04-19-2004, 03:28 PM

2nd round pick

SegRat · 04-19-2004, 03:28 PM

Patriots | Dillon Acquired Via Trade - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:25:55 -0700

Bengals.com's Geoff Hobson reports the New England Patriots have acquired RB Corey Dillon from the Cincinnati Bengals for a second-round draft choice.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-19-2004, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

IF he isn't a locker room problem this is a hell of a deal for New England.

Unless that "undisclosed" draft pick is high round. I think anything above a 3rd round pick and they definitely overpaid for Dillon, secondary to age and attitude concerns.

korme · 04-19-2004, 03:29 PM

I wish things had worked out, I just don't think Rudi is ready for 250-300 carries a season.

cthomer5000 · 04-19-2004, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

2nd round pick

yikes.. overpaid I think. But I guess they can afford to with the extra draft picks.

RainRaven · 04-19-2004, 03:30 PM

I guess you can use a second round pick in worse ways then getting a proven NFL running back. Though it does surprise me that the Patriots would pull the trigger on this deal with Dillion's lack of character being an issue for most teams.

judicial clerk · 04-19-2004, 03:30 PM

This makes sense for the Pats. Now, instead of picking a running back in the first round, they are free to use the pick on the Miami police officer who ran down Ty Law.

WSUCougar · 04-19-2004, 03:30 PM

And that's a very low 2nd rounder.

RendeR · 04-19-2004, 03:31 PM

YAHOOOOOO!!!!!

la la the monkey's dead, we finally got that loser OFF the squad!

Franklinnoble · 04-19-2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by judicial clerk

This makes sense for the Pats. Now, instead of picking a running back in the first round, they are free to use the pick on the Miami police officer who ran down Ty Law.

rkmsuf · 04-19-2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

yikes.. overpaid I think. But I guess they can afford to with the extra draft picks.

That's the key. They wanted to unload some of those picks. I'm guessing they've met with Dillion and are satisfied. Who knows...maybe playing for a winner helps the guy. Tough read but until otherwise I'd go with Bill and Pioli.

Maybe they go up and get the Miami safety now...

cthomer5000 · 04-19-2004, 03:33 PM

this at least frees up the Pats to take "best available athletes" in the first round. No glaring needs.

WSUCougar · 04-19-2004, 03:34 PM

Have they signed a FA corner? I'd look there, or LB maybe.

Cringer · 04-19-2004, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Wow, that one blind-slided me.

*scurries off to adjust draft board*

blind-sided indeed, never heard the Pats wanted him......sneaky lil buggers

SirFozzie · 04-19-2004, 03:35 PM

The Pats just countered the Dolphins moves

The AFC East is turning into the AL East

RendeR · 04-19-2004, 03:35 PM

they've still got 2 firsts a second and a third on day one of the draft, how the hell did they stockpile things?

rkmsuf · 04-19-2004, 03:35 PM

Guess that answers the Jackson question at least for NE...

JAG · 04-19-2004, 03:36 PM

Very surprised about that. I guess the Patriots like others aren't very enamored with the running backs of this draft class.

Samdari · 04-19-2004, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Have they signed a FA corner? I'd look there, or LB maybe.

The theory with them and DBs have them making the long rumored trade to #6 with Detroit, and taking Sean Taylor. The 'new' corner comes from moving Eugene Wilson (drafted as a CB, started at safety for them last year) back to CB.

rkmsuf · 04-19-2004, 03:38 PM

CB might be the position they want to draft.

cthomer5000 · 04-19-2004, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

blind-sided indeed, never heard the Pats wanted him......sneaky lil buggers

Very true. Every time I ever heard the name it appeared to be pure speculation with no real basis (unlike Dallas or Oakland - where it's always been rumoured they were interested "for the right price.")

A deal to Oakland would have been a huge victory for Kodos' jerk-magnet theory as well. So i'm sad to see that won't occur.

cthomer5000 · 04-19-2004, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

they've still got 2 firsts a second and a third on day one of the draft, how the hell did they stockpile things?

they're very smart.

They traded a 1st last year to the Ravens (who took Kyle Boller) for a 2nd last year and a 1st this year. Can't beat that at all.

Franklinnoble · 04-19-2004, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

A deal to Oakland would have been a huge victory for Kodos' jerk-magnet theory as well. So i'm sad to see that won't occur.

You don't think the recent Ty Law incident had a magnetic effect?

BigJohn&TheLions · 04-19-2004, 03:41 PM

Guess that about kills the Pats/Lions trade talk...

rkmsuf · 04-19-2004, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

You don't think the recent Ty Law incident had a magnetic effect?

He's only pretending to be a jerk...big difference.

rkmsuf · 04-19-2004, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigJohn&TheLions

Guess that about kills the Pats/Lions trade talk...

They are reported dead but this move has nothing to do with it. Taylor is the guy if they move up.

cthomer5000 · 04-19-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

They are reported dead but this move has nothing to do with it. Taylor is the guy if they move up.

I just don't see the Pats making that move... doesn't seem to be worth it.

Samdari · 04-19-2004, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I just don't see the Pats making that move... doesn't seem to be worth it.

Why? Belicheck has been quoted calling Taylor the best player in the draft. The #6 is actually considered more valuable than the 21 & 32. If they can get Detroit to take just those two picks, you do this in a heartbeat.

JeeberD · 04-19-2004, 03:48 PM

This is good news for the Cowboys efforts in drafting a QB on Saturday...

rkmsuf · 04-19-2004, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I just don't see the Pats making that move... doesn't seem to be worth it.

Probably not...they just don't do that. If anything they may go down and trade for next year's draft if who they want is not on the horizon in the mid teens.

Dillion gets a lot of bad pub and is 30 but when I look at the career stats something just says he has gas in the tank. He's caught more balls than I thought and on bad teams was pretty productive outside of his little vacation last year. I'd have to say 1,200 and 8 TDs is a worst case scenario if he stays healthy...

MacroGuru · 04-19-2004, 03:50 PM

The Bengals now have five picks in the first three rounds, including two second-rounders and two third-rounders. They have nine picks in the first four rounds, including nine in the top 117.

Looks like the Bengals can reload decently from the draft as well.

cthomer5000 · 04-19-2004, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

This is good news for the Cowboys efforts in drafting a QB on Saturday...

I assume that was a Freudian slip? (Of course, it shouldn't be.)

WSUCougar · 04-19-2004, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by indoorsoccersim

Looks like the Bengals can reload decently from the draft as well.

Never seen those words in the same sentence. My head hurts.

RendeR · 04-19-2004, 03:52 PM

Its all up to Carson now, lewis has set the table. if Palmer plays at or better than kitna did last season we make the playoffs, if he lights up the league like all Bengal Fans HOPE he will, we win 13+ games and have a shot at the Bowl. The pieces are there.

albionmoonlight · 04-19-2004, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

if . . . we [will] win 13+ games and have a shot at the Bowl. The pieces are there.

No fair using up all the best weed

rkmsuf · 04-19-2004, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Its all up to Carson now, lewis has set the table. if Palmer plays at or better than kitna did last season we make the playoffs, if he lights up the league like all Bengal Fans HOPE he will, we win 13+ games and have a shot at the Bowl. The pieces are there.

Calling your home team QB by his first name just feels weird man.

cthomer5000 · 04-19-2004, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Its all up to Carson now, lewis has set the table. if Palmer plays at or better than kitna did last season we make the playoffs, if he lights up the league like all Bengal Fans HOPE he will, we win 13+ games and have a shot at the Bowl. The pieces are there.

I think the playoffs are a pretty lofty goal for this season. I think it's more likely they'll be around .500 again before making their move in 2005. Unless they run, run, run it's going to be tough for a first-year starter to lead his team to the playoffs.

Castlerock · 04-19-2004, 03:58 PM

Wow. The Patriots now have a running back. It's been a long time.

I am a little suprised that the Patriots went after him given his "character" issues. The Bengals are happy to be rid of him and maybe a change of scenery will do him good. I gotta admit I have a smile on my face. We'll see it changes to a frown.

Franklinnoble · 04-19-2004, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

No fair using up all the best weed

sachmo71 · 04-19-2004, 04:00 PM

Wow. Too bad the Cowboys weren't there.

RendeR · 04-19-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

No fair using up all the best weed

Sublime · 04-19-2004, 04:07 PM

I think the change of scenery for Dillon i think will be good. The Pats haven't had a back like this since Curtis Martin and they still have plenty of picks to upgrade S (move Wilson back to CB), a big WR, and maybe start to rejuvenate their LB corps.

BishopMVP · 04-19-2004, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Probably not...they just don't do that. If anything they may go down and trade for next year's draft if who they want is not on the horizon in the mid teens.

Belichick/Pioli trade up/down as many times as they want. We'll probably either go up to #6 and pick Taylor or end up with like DJ Williams at #21 and then another good player.

Glengoyne · 04-19-2004, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

Yah, and I posted mine, as well as many theories about Steven Jackson's draft status being inflated due to the competition for him.

I saw Steven Jackson play early in the year last year, and thought to myself "Maurice who?".

Where do you think he will go/should go?

04-19-2004, 03:27 PM	#4
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Wow, that one blind-slided me. scurries off to adjust draft board __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

04-19-2004, 03:28 PM	#7
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	2nd round pick __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

04-19-2004, 03:28 PM	#8
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	Patriots \| Dillon Acquired Via Trade - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:25:55 -0700 Bengals.com's Geoff Hobson reports the New England Patriots have acquired RB Corey Dillon from the Cincinnati Bengals for a second-round draft choice. __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

04-19-2004, 03:30 PM	#12
RainRaven High School JV Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Baltimore, Maryland	I guess you can use a second round pick in worse ways then getting a proven NFL running back. Though it does surprise me that the Patriots would pull the trigger on this deal with Dillion's lack of character being an issue for most teams. __________________ "It can't rain all the time"-The Crow

04-19-2004, 03:30 PM	#14
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	And that's a very low 2nd rounder. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

04-19-2004, 03:26 PM	#2
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	WOW. What a pick up for the Pats.

04-19-2004, 03:26 PM	#3
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	IF he isn't a locker room problem this is a hell of a deal for New England.

04-19-2004, 03:28 PM	#6
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I read this and think... Repeat.

04-19-2004, 03:29 PM	#10
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	I wish things had worked out, I just don't think Rudi is ready for 250-300 carries a season.

04-19-2004, 03:30 PM	#13
judicial clerk College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland, OR	This makes sense for the Pats. Now, instead of picking a running back in the first round, they are free to use the pick on the Miami police officer who ran down Ty Law.

04-19-2004, 03:31 PM	#15
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	YAHOOOOOO!!!!! la la the monkey's dead, we finally got that loser OFF the squad! __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

04-19-2004, 03:34 PM	#19
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Have they signed a FA corner? I'd look there, or LB maybe. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

04-19-2004, 03:35 PM	#21
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The Pats just countered the Dolphins moves The AFC East is turning into the AL East __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

04-19-2004, 03:36 PM	#24
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Very surprised about that. I guess the Patriots like others aren't very enamored with the running backs of this draft class.

04-19-2004, 03:38 PM	#26
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	CB might be the position they want to draft. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

04-19-2004, 03:41 PM	#30
BigJohn&TheLions College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York	Guess that about kills the Pats/Lions trade talk... __________________ In the immortal words of a great alcoholic, "Can't we all just get along?"

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JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	This is good news for the Cowboys efforts in drafting a QB on Saturday... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

04-19-2004, 03:50 PM	#37
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	The Bengals now have five picks in the first three rounds, including two second-rounders and two third-rounders. They have nine picks in the first four rounds, including nine in the top 117. Looks like the Bengals can reload decently from the draft as well. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

04-19-2004, 03:52 PM	#40
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Its all up to Carson now, lewis has set the table. if Palmer plays at or better than kitna did last season we make the playoffs, if he lights up the league like all Bengal Fans HOPE he will, we win 13+ games and have a shot at the Bowl. The pieces are there. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

04-19-2004, 03:58 PM	#44
Castlerock High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, Ma	Wow. The Patriots now have a running back. It's been a long time. I am a little suprised that the Patriots went after him given his "character" issues. The Bengals are happy to be rid of him and maybe a change of scenery will do him good. I gotta admit I have a smile on my face. We'll see it changes to a frown.

04-19-2004, 04:00 PM	#46
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Wow. Too bad the Cowboys weren't there.

04-19-2004, 04:07 PM	#48
Sublime High School JV Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: NH/Boston University	I think the change of scenery for Dillon i think will be good. The Pats haven't had a back like this since Curtis Martin and they still have plenty of picks to upgrade S (move Wilson back to CB), a big WR, and maybe start to rejuvenate their LB corps. __________________ BU Hockey WHAT!

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