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Old 01-30-2004, 04:45 AM   #1
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(FOFC) Super Bowl Betting Pool, Rules Inside

One of my friends managed to get me a list of one of the sportsbooks propositions (props) for this sunday's Superbowl, so I decided to make a game out of it:

1) Each bettor has 1000 Points, which to make 3 or more bets on Super Bowl XXXVIII. The mininum bet size is 100.

2) A player may select to make one of their bets a parlay, (ie an all or nothing bet that can be very lucrative). A parlay is two or more selections. If any of the selection in the parlay FAILS, then the whole bet is lost. If all the selections are true, it pays off as follows:

Code:
Parlay Odds 2 Selection Pay 13/5 6 Selection 40/1 3 Selection Pay 6/1 7 Selection 75/1 4 Selection Pay 10/1 8 Selection 150/1 5 Selection Pay 20/1 9 Selection 300/1

One last minute change to make it tougher: You cannot select a -200 or higher in a 2 selection parlay, and only one -200 or higher in a 3 or more selection parlay.


Here's the list: (For gambling newbies, a - # means you have to bet that much to get 100 back, a + number means you bet 100 to get that much back if you win)

STANDARD PROP:

WHO WILL SCORE MORE POINTS

PANTHERS (+6 1/2) -115
Patriots (-6 1/2) -115

OVER/UNDER FOR GAME

OVER 38 1/2 -115
UNDER 38 1/2 -115


NFL Props FIRST TEAM TO KICKOFF
157 PANTHERS NA NA -115
158 PATRIOTS NA NA -115

NFL Props WILL THE COIN LAND ON

153 HEADS NA NA -115
154 TAILS NA NA -115

NFL Props TEAM TO RECEIVE THE OPENING KICKOFF IN THE GAME
155 PANTHERS NA NA -115
156 PATRIOTS NA NA -115

NFL Props WHO WILL WIN THE COIN TOSS

151 CAROLINA PANTHERS NA NA -115
152 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS NA NA -115


NFL Props MOST PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY
510 MUSHIN MUHAMMAD +1 (-130) NA NA
511 DAVID GIVENS -1 (+100) NA NA

NFL Props MOST PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY

508 MUSHIN MUHAMMAD +1 (-150) NA NA
509 TROY BROWN -1 (+120) NA NA

NFL Props MOST PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY

506 STEVE SMITH -1½ (-105) NA NA
507 TROY BROWN +1½ (-125) NA NA

NFL Props MOST PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY

504 STEVE SMITH -23½ NA NA -105
505 TROY BROWN +23½ NA NA -125

NFL Props MOST PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY

502 STEVE SMITH -17½ NA NA -115
503 DAVID GIVENS +17½ NA NA -115

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY DEION BRANCH
500 OVER 3½ NA NA +100
501 UNDER 3½ NA NA -130

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY DEION BRANCH

498 OVER 39½ NA NA -160
499 UNDER 39½ NA NA +130

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY TROY BROWN

494 OVER 49½ NA NA +105
495 UNDER 49½ NA NA -135

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY TROY BROWN

496 OVER 4½ NA NA +145
497 UNDER 4½ NA NA -175

NFL Props TOTAL RUSH + PASS RECEIVING YARDS BY LARRY CENTERS

492 OVER 9½ NA NA -115
493 UNDER 9½ NA NA -115

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY MUSHIN MUHAMMAD

490 OVER 3½ NA NA -155
491 UNDER 3½ NA NA +125

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY STEVE SMITH

488 OVER 5½ NA NA +125
489 UNDER 5½ NA NA -155

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY MUSHIN MUHAMMAD

486 OVER 52½ NA NA -115
487 UNDER 52½ NA NA -115

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY RICKEY PROEHL

484 OVER 12½ NA NA -150
485 UNDER 12½ NA NA +120

NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSH + PASS RECEIVING YARDS BY BRAD HOOVER

482 OVER 10½ NA NA -135
483 UNDER 10½ NA NA +105

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY STEVE SMITH

480 OVER 73½ NA NA -110
481 UNDER 73½ NA NA -120

NFL Props LONGEST PASS RECEPTION BY STEVE SMITH

478 OVER 21 YARDS NA NA -140
479 UNDER 21 YARDS NA NA +110

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY CHRISTIAN FAURIA

476 OVER 13½ NA NA -135
477 UNDER 13½ NA NA +105

NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY DANIEL GRAHAM

474 OVER 17½ NA NA -115
475 UNDER 17½ NA NA -115

NFL Props MOST PASS RECEPTIONS MADE IN THE GAME BY

472 STEVE SMITH -1 NA NA +120
473 DAVID GIVENS +1 NA NA -150

NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING YARDS MADE BY KEVIN FAULK

470 OVER 18½ NA NA -140
471 UNDER 18½ NA NA +110

NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING YARDS MADE BY JAKE DELHOMME

468 OVER 4 NA NA -115
469 UNDER 4 NA NA -115

NFL Props TOTAL PASS ATTEMPTS MADE BY JAKE DELHOMME

466 OVER 28½ NA NA -110
467 UNDER 28½ NA NA -120

NFL Props TOTAL GROSS PASSING YARDS BY JAKE DELHOMME

464 OVER 201 NA NA -120
465 UNDER 201 NA NA -110

NFL Props TOTAL PASS COMPLETIONS MADE BY JAKE DELHOMME

462 OVER NA OV 16½ (-110) NA
463 UNDER NA UN 16½ (-120) NA

NFL Props TOTAL FIELD GOALS MADE BY BOTH TEAMS

460 OVER 3½ NA NA -105
461 UNDER 3½ NA NA -125

NFL Props THE SHORTEST FIELD GOAL MADE IN THE GAME WILL BE

458 OVER 25½ YARDS NA NA +100
459 UNDER 25½ YARDS NA NA -130

NFL Props THE LONGEST FIELD GOAL MADE IN THE GAME WILL BE

456 OVER 44½ YARDS NA NA -110
457 UNDER 44½ YARDS NA NA -120

NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING + RECEIVING YARDS BY DESHAUN FOSTER

454 OVER NA OV 47½ (-110) NA
455 UNDER NA UN 47½ (-120) NA

NFL Props TOTAL TOUCHDOWN PASSES THROWN BY NEW ENGLAND

447 0 TOUCHDOWN PASS NA NA +225
448 1 TOUCHDOWN PASS NA NA +150
449 2 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +180
450 3 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +400
451 4 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +1000
452 5 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +2500
453 6 OR MORE TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +3300

NFL Props TOTAL TOUCHDOWN PASSES THROWN BY CAROLINA

440 0 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +150
441 1 TOUCHDOWN PASS NA NA +100
442 2 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +300
443 3 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +800
444 4 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +2000
445 5 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +3500
446 6 OR MORE TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +5000

NFL Props TOTAL LOST FUMBLES MADE BY BOTH TEAMS

281 0 FUMBLE NA NA +200
282 1 FUMBLE NA NA +150
283 2 FUMBLES NA NA +250
284 3 FUMBLES NA NA +500
285 4 FUMBLES NA NA +1000
286 5 OR MORE FUMBLES NA NA +2500

NFL Props THE LAST SCORING PLAY OF THE GAME WILL BE

271 CAR - FIELD GOAL NA NA +450
272 CAR - TD PASS NA NA +400
273 CAR - TD RUN NA NA +500
274 ANY OTHER CAR TD NA NA +1500
275 CAR - SAFETY NA NA +2800
276 NE - FIELD GOAL NA NA +300
277 NE - TD PASS NA NA +350
278 NE - TD RUN NA NA +450
279 ANY OTHER NE TD NA NA +1200
280 NE - SAFETY NA NA +2800

NFL Props TEAM TO SCORE FIRST AND FIANL RESULT

436 CAROLINA SCORE 1ST AND WIN GAME NA NA +300
437 CAROLINA SCORE 1ST AND LOSE GAME NA NA +200
438 NEW ENGLAND SCORE 1ST AND WIN GAME NA NA -150
439 NEW ENGLAND SCORE 1ST AND LOSE GAME NA NA +500

NFL Props FIRST HALF SCORE AND FINAL RESULT OF THE GAME

430 CAROLINA WINS 1ST HALF AND GAME NA NA +250
431 CAROLINA WINS 1ST HALF AND NE WINS GAME NA NA +320
432 NE WINS 1ST HALF AND GAME NA NA -150
433 NE WINS 1ST HALF AND CAROLINA WINS GAME NA NA +800
434 1ST HALF TIED AND CAROLINA WINS GAME NA NA +1200
435 1ST HALF TIED AND NE WINS GAME NA NA +1000

NFL Props TOTAL TD PASSES MADE BY PANTHERS QBS
428 OVER NA OV 1½ (+180) NA
429 UNDER NA UN 1½ (-220) NA

NFL Props WHICH QUARTER WILL MOST POINTS BE SCORED IN (OT DOESN'T COUNT FOR 4TH QTR)

203 1ST QUARTER NA NA +270
204 2ND QUARTER NA NA +190
205 3RD QUARTER NA NA +260
206 4TH QUARTER NA NA +185

NFL Props WILL THERE BE MORE POINTS SCORED IN

201 1ST HALF + ½ POINTS NA NA -120
202 2ND HALF + OT - ½ POINTS NA NA -110

NFL Props FIRST TEAM TO SCORE IN THE 2ND HALF

289 PANTHERS NA NA +110
290 PATRIOTS NA NA -140

NFL Props THE FIRST SCORING PLAY OF THE GAME WILL BE

261 NE - FIELD GOAL NA NA +300
262 NE - TD PASS NA NA +300
263 NE - TD RUN NA NA +600
264 NE - TD OTHER NA NA +1000
265 NE - SAFETY NA NA +3500
266 CAR - FIELD GOAL NA NA +300
267 CAR - TD PASS NA NA +500
268 CAR - TD RUN NA NA +550
269 CAR - TD OTHER NA NA +1000
270 CAR - SAFETY NA NA +4000
NFL Props TOTAL PASSING YARDS BY T BRADY

251 OVER NA OV 233½ (-110) NA
252 UNDER NA UN 233½ (-110) NA

NFL Props TOTAL PASSING YARDS BY J DELHOMME

249 OVER NA OV 200½ (-110) NA
250 UNDER NA UN 200½ (-110) NA
NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING YARDS MADE BY TOM BRADY

426 OVER NA OV 5 (+105) NA
427 UNDER NA UN 5 (-135) NA

NFL Props TOTAL PASSING ATTEMPTS MADE BY TOM BRADY

424 OVER NA OV 33½ (-140) NA
425 UNDER NA UN 33½ (+110) NA

NFL Props TOTAL PASS COMPLETIONS MADE BY TOM BRADY

420 OVER NA OV 21½ (-115) NA
421 UNDER NA UN 21½ (-115) NA

NFL Props MOST NET RUSHING YARDS BY

416 ANTOWAIN SMITH -6½ (+120) NA NA
417 STEPHEN DAVIS +6½ (-150) NA NA

NFL Props MOST NET RUSHING + RECEIVING YARDS BY

414 DESHAUN FOSTER -10 (-125) NA NA
415 KEVIN FAULK +10 (-105) NA NA

NFL Props WHICH PUNTER WILL HAVE THE LONGEST PUNT IN GAME

412 TODD SAUERBURN NA NA -180
413 KEN WALTER NA NA +150

NFL Props WHO WILL THROW THE FIRST TD PASS IN THE GAME

410 JAKE DELHOMME NA NA +160
411 TOM BRADY NA NA -200

NFL Props MOST NET RUSHING YARDS BY

408 JAKE DELHOMME +½ NA NA -115
409 TOM BRADY -½ NA NA -115

NFL Props MOST PASS COMPLETIONS MADE BY

406 JAKE DELHOMME +4 (+105) NA NA
407 TOM BRADY -4 (-135) NA NA

NFL Props MOST NET PASSING YARDS MADE BY

404 JAKE DELHOMME +28½ (+115) NA NA
405 TOM BRADY -28½ (-145) NA NA

NFL Props WILL ANY PATRIOT PLAYER SCORE 2 OR MORE TOUCHDOWNS

402 YES NA NA +220
403 NO NA NA -260

NFL Props WILL THE PATRIOTS SCORE MORE POINTS IN

400 1ST HALF NA NA -115
401 2ND HALF NA NA -115

NFL Props WILL ANY PANTHERS PLAYER SCORE 2 OR MORE TOUCHDOWNS

396 YES NA NA +260
397 NO NA NA -320

NFL Props WILL THE PANTHERS SCORE MORE POINTS IN
394 1ST HALF NA NA -115
395 2ND HALF NA NA -115

NFL Props WILL THE PANTHERS SCORE IN EVERY QUARTER

392 YES NA NA +350
393 NO NA NA -500

NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING YARDS MADE BY ANTOWAIN SMITH

390 OVER 80½ NA NA +135
391 UNDER 80½ NA NA -165

NFL Props T BRADY 1ST PASS WILL BE
243 INCOMPLETE/INT NA NA +160
244 COMPLETE NA NA -200

NFL Props J DELHOMMES 1ST PASS WILL BE

241 INCOMPLETE/INT NA NA +130
242 COMPLETE NA NA -160

NFL Props TEAM TO CALL THE FIRST TIMEOUT

239 PANTHERS NA NA -120
240 PATRIOTS NA NA -110

NFL Props FIRST TEAM TO USE COACHES CHALLENGE
237 PANTHERS NA NA -115
238 PATRIOTS NA NA -115

NFL Props TEAM TO COMMMIT THE FIRST TURNOVER

235 PANTHERS NA NA -140
236 PATRIOTS NA NA +110

NFL Props WILL CAROLINA EVER HAVE THE LEAD

233 YES NA NA -180
234 NO NA NA +150


NFL Props THE FIRST TURNOVER OF THE GAME WILL BE

385 FUMBLE NA NA +125
386 INTERCEPTION NA NA -155
387 NO TURNOVERS IN GAME NA NA +800

NFL Props THE LAST SCORE OF THE GAME WILL BE

383 TOUCHDOWN NA NA -155
384 FIELD GOAL OR SAFETY NA NA +125

NFL Props THE FIRST SCORE OF THE GAME WILL BE

381 TOUCHDOWN NA NA -140
382 FIELD GOAL OR SAFETY NA NA +110

NFL Props WILL BOTH TEAMS HAVE THE LEAD IN THE FIRST HALF

379 YES NA NA +160
380 NO NA NA -200

NFL Props WILL THE TEAM THAT SCORES LAST WIN THE GAME

377 YES NA NA -200
378 NO NA NA +160

NFL Props WILL THE TEAM THAT SCORES FIRST WIN THE GAME

375 YES NA NA -180
376 NO NA NA +150

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN 1ST 7MIN 30SEC OF 1ST QTR

373 YES NA NA -125
374 NO NA NA -105

NFL Props TEAM TO HAVE THE LONGEST FIELD GOAL
371 PANTHERS NA NA +125
372 PATRIOTS NA NA -155

NFL Props TEAM TO MISS THE FIRST FIELD GOAL IN THE GAME

369 PANTHERS NA NA -140
370 PATRIOTS NA NA +110

NFL Props TEAM TO MAKE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL FIELD GOAL

367 PANTHERS NA NA +110
368 PATRIOTS NA NA -140

NFL Props TEAM TO SCORE LAST IN THE FIRST HALF

365 PANTHERS NA NA +100
366 PATRIOTS NA NA -130

NFL Props TEAM TO HAVE THE MOST 1ST DOWNS

363 PANTHERS +2 NA NA -120
364 PATRIOTS -2 NA NA -110

NFL Props TEAM TO RECORD THE FIRST PASS INTERCEPTION
361 PANTHERS NA NA +125
362 PATRIOTS NA NA -155

NFL Props TEAM TO GET CALLED FOR HOLDING PENALTY 1ST
359 PANTHERS NA NA -115
360 PATRIOTS NA NA -115

NFL Props FIRST TEAM TO BE PENALIZED FOR PASS INTERFERENCE

357 PANTHERS NA NA -125
358 PATRIOTS NA NA -105

NFL Props FIRST TEAM OFFENSE TO CROSS 50 YARD LINE (MIDFIELD)

355 PANTHERS NA NA +105
356 PATRIOTS NA NA -135

NFL Props WHICH TEAM WILL RECORD THE FIRST QB SACK

353 PANTHERS NA NA -110
354 PATRIOTS NA NA -120

NFL Props TEAM TO HAVE THE LONGEST PUNT RETURN

351 PANTHERS NA NA -110
352 PATRIOTS NA NA -120

NFL Props TEAM TO HAVE THE LONGEST KICKOFF RETURN

349 PANTHERS NA NA -125
350 PATRIOTS NA NA -105

NFL Props TEAM TO HAVE THE LONGEST TOUCHDOWN SCORE

347 PANTHERS NA NA +135
348 PATRIOTS NA NA -165

NFL Props TEAM TO PUNT FIRST

345 PANTHERS NA NA -125
346 PATRIOTS NA NA -105

NFL Props TEAM TO GET THE FIRST PENALTY
343 PANTHERS NA NA -140
344 PATRIOTS NA NA +110

NFL Props TEAM TO GET THE FIRST 1ST DOWN
341 PANTHERS NA NA -105
342 PATRIOTS NA NA -125

NFL Props TOTAL POINTS SCORED BY PANTHERS
209 OVER NA OV 16 (-115) NA
210 UNDER NA UN 16 (-115) NA

NFL Props TOTAL POINTS SCORED BY PATRIOTS

211 OVER NA OV 23 (-105) NA
212 UNDER NA UN 23 (-125) NA

NFL Props THE LONGEST TOUCHDOWN IN THE GAME WILL BE

339 OVER 38½ YRDS NA NA -110
340 UNDER 38½ YRDS NA NA -120

NFL Props TOTAL QUARTERBACK SACKS MADE IN GAME BY BOTH TEAMS

337 OVER NA OV 4½ (-105) NA
338 UNDER NA UN 4½ (-125) NA

NFL Props TOTAL PUNTS MADE IN THE GAME BY BOTH TEAMS

335 OVER NA OV 10½ (-150) NA
336 UNDER NA UN 10½ (+120) NA

NFL Props TOTAL SACKS RECORDED BY PATRIOTS DEFENSE WILL BE

333 OVER NA OV 2½ (-105) NA
334 UNDER NA UN 2½ (-125) NA

NFL Props TOTAL SACKS RECORDED BY PANTHERS DEFENSE WILL BE

331 OVER NA OV 1½ (-160) NA
332 UNDER NA UN 1½ (+130) NA

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN LAST 3MIN 30SEC OF GAME

327 YES NA NA -115
328 NO NA NA -115

NFL Props WILL A ONSIDE KICK BE ATTEMPTED IN THE GAME
325 YES NA NA -155
326 NO NA NA +125

NFL Props THE LAST SCORE OF THE FIRST HALF WILL BE

323 A FIELD GOAL NA NA -125
324 ANY OTHER SCORE NA NA -105

NFL Props PLAYER TO SCORE THE LAST TOUCHDOWN WILL HAVE

321 ODD NUMBER JERSEY NA NA -115
322 EVEN NUMBER JERSEY NA NA -115

NFL Props PLAYER TO SCORE THE FIRST TOUCHDOWN WILL HAVE

319 ODD NUMBER JERSEY NA NA -120
320 EVEN NUMBER JERSEY NA NA -110

NFL Props WILL THE FINAL SCORE DIFFERENTIAL BE A

317 ODD NUMBER NA NA -135
318 EVEN NUMBER NA NA +105

NFL Props THE FINAL SCORE FOR PATRIOTS WILL BE

315 ODD NUMBER NA NA -125
316 EVEN NUMBER NA NA -105

NFL Props THE FINAL SCORE FOR PANTHERS WILL BE

313 ODD NUMBER NA NA -125
314 EVEN NUMBER NA NA -105

NFL Props WILL THE GAME GO INTO OVERTIME

311 YES NA NA +600
312 NO NA NA -900

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A LOST FUMBLE IN THE 1ST HALF

309 YES NA NA -175
310 NO NA NA +145

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN

307 YES NA NA +700
308 NO NA NA -1000

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SAFETY IN THE GAME

305 YES NA NA +700
306 NO NA NA -1000

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SUCCESSFUL 2 POINT CONVERSION

303 YES NA NA +400
304 NO NA NA -600

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A 2 POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT

301 YES NA NA +150
302 NO NA NA -180

NFL Props WILL EITHER TEAM SCORE 3 TIMES UNANSWERED

221 YES NA NA -175
222 NO NA NA +145

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN LAST 2MIN OF THE 1ST HALF

219 YES NA NA -200
220 NO NA NA +160

NFL Props LAST TEAM TO SCORE WINS GAME
217 YES NA NA -200
218 NO NA NA +160

NFL Props TEAM TO SCORE FIRST
213 PANTHERS NA NA +130
214 PATRIOTS NA NA -160

NFL Props TEAM TO SCORE LAST
215 PANTHERS NA NA +125
216 PATRIOTS NA NA -155

NFL Props PLAYER TO SCORE THE FIRST TOUCHDOWN
801 JAKE DELHOMME NA NA +2500
802 TOM BRADY NA NA +2500
803 ANTOWAIN SMITH NA NA +650
804 DESHAUN FOSTER NA NA +900
805 STEPHEN DAVIS NA NA +500
806 STEVE SMITH NA NA +700
807 KEVIN FAULK NA NA +1500
808 MUSHIN MAHAMMAD NA NA +800
809 TROY BROWN NA NA +1000
810 DEION BRANCH NA NA +1000
811 DAVID GIVENS NA NA +1000
812 BRAD HOOVER NA NA +1800
813 DANIEL GRAHAM NA NA +1200
814 CHRISTIAN FAURIA NA NA +1200
815 JERMAINE WIGGINS NA NA +1800
816 RICKY PROEHL NA NA +1500
817 BETHEL JOHNSON NA NA +1200
818 FIELD NA NA +400
819 NO TD SCORED IN GAME NA NA +4000

NFL Props PLAYER TO BE NAMED MVP FOR THE SUPERBOWL XXXVIII
901 TOM BRADY NA NA +175
902 JAKE DELHOMME NA NA +500
903 STEPHEN DAVIS NA NA +800
904 ANTOWAIN SMITH NA NA +1200
905 DAVID GIVENS NA NA +2200
906 DESHAUN FOSTER NA NA +1500
907 MUHSIN MAHAMMAD NA NA +2000
908 TROY BROWN NA NA +2000
909 KEVIN FAULK NA NA +2800
910 DEION BRANCH NA NA +2200
911 ADAM VINATIERI NA NA +2500
912 STEVE SMITH NA NA +1500
913 MIKE RUCKER NA NA +2500
914 DAN MORGAN NA NA +2500
915 BETHEL JOHNSON NA NA +2800
916 WILLIE MCGINEST NA NA +2000
917 JULIUS PEPPERS NA NA +2500
918 KRIS JENKINS NA NA +2500
919 RODNEY HARRISON NA NA +1800
920 JOHN KASAY NA NA +3500
921 ASANTE SAMUEL NA NA +3000
922 TY LAW NA NA +1600
923 RICKY MANNING JR NA NA +2200
924 THE FIELD NA NA +650

NFL Props PLAYER TO RECORD THE FIRST PASS INTERCEPTION

925 RICKY MANNING NA NA +600
926 TYRONE POOLE NA NA +650
927 TY LAW NA NA +550
928 EUGENE WILSON NA NA +800
929 RODNEY HARRISON NA NA +800
930 DEON GRANT NA NA +800
931 MIKE MINTER NA NA +900
932 DAN MORGAN NA NA +1200
933 JULIUS PEPPERS NA NA +1200
934 ASANTE SAMUEL NA NA +800
935 MIKE VRABEL NA NA +1200
936 WILLIE MCGINEST NA NA +1000
937 REGGIE HOWARD NA NA +900
938 WILL WITHERSPOON NA NA +1200
939 THE FIELD NA NA +500
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Old 01-30-2004, 04:52 AM   #2
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I will go first:

Bet 1: Placing 200 that "The Field" will be MVP (that means any player but those listed) (+650)

Bet 2: I will place 500 on the Patriots giving 6 1/2 points (-115)

Bet 3: A 4 selection Parlay for 300 on the following: (No score in last 3 min 30 seconds), Last Team To Score Wins, Patriots to Score First, and First team to Score Wins) (10/1, or +1000)
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Old 01-30-2004, 07:10 AM   #3
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800 on 7-bet Parlay of the following (75-1 odds):
  • 302 Will there be a 2-point conversion attempt: No (-180)
  • 304 Will there be a successful 2-point conversion attempt: No (-600)
  • 412 Todd Sauerburn will have the longest punt of the game (-180)
  • 222 Will either team score three times unanswered: No (+145)
  • 469 Total rushing yards for Jake Delhomme: under 4 (-115)
  • 493 Total pass+receiving yards for Larry Centers: under 9½ (-115)
  • 309 There will be a lost fumble in the first half: Yes (-175)

100 on:
  • 494 Total passing yards to Troy Brown over 49½ (+105)

100 on:
  • 496 Total receptions by Troy Brown over 4½ (+145)

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Old 01-30-2004, 08:29 AM   #4
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This is a side issue, but giving $115 to get $100 on an even money proposition (-115) is a bad bet - the bookies have close to a 7% edge. There have to be better odds somewhere else, at least on the basic bets (spread & over/under).
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Old 01-30-2004, 08:46 AM   #5
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200 on Panthers + 6 1/2 (I think they will lose but cover) (-115)
200 on Under 38 1/2 (-115)
150 on 511 Most Pass Receptoins - David Givens -1 (+100)
150 on 500 Deon Branch Over 3.5 rec (+100)
150 on 440 0 Carolina TD Passes (+150)
150 on 301 2pt conversion attempt (+150)
100 (Parley) on
  • 326 No Onside Kick (+125)
  • 222 Neither team scores 3 times unasnwered (+145)
100 on 901 Tom Brady MVP (+175)
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Old 01-30-2004, 12:11 PM   #6
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Ok 3 bettors have played. Betting closes of course at 6:00 PM on Sunday
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Old 01-30-2004, 12:16 PM   #7
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Would it be considered cheap to take the 6-1 odds on a 3-bet parlay: Pats to win the toss, Pats to recieve first kickoff, Panthers to make the first kickoff?

And would it be extra cheap to then bet another parlay on the opposite of the above?
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Old 01-30-2004, 12:18 PM   #8
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Hmmm.. That would be kind of cheap.. but can't you defer the opening kickoff?
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Old 01-30-2004, 12:19 PM   #9
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Hmmm.. That would be kind of cheap.. but can't you defer the opening kickoff?
And knowing my luck, they probably would.
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Old 01-30-2004, 12:20 PM   #10
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Would it be considered cheap to take the 6-1 odds on a 3-bet parlay: Pats to win the toss, Pats to recieve first kickoff, Panthers to make the first kickoff?

And would it be extra cheap to then bet another parlay on the opposite of the above?

First time I've heard "cheap" and "gambling" in the same phrase. If someone is going to make a living off being a sports book, they deserve to get taken on something like this.
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First time I've heard "cheap" and "gambling" in the same phrase. If someone is going to make a living off being a sports book, they deserve to get taken on something like this.
OK, but in the context of this paticular game on FOFC, I think it would be cheap.
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I copied the rules on parlays from another site then the one my friend directed me to for the props.. I'm sure they give reduced odds parlays on something like that.
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Would it be considered cheap to take the 6-1 odds on a 3-bet parlay: Pats to win the toss, Pats to recieve first kickoff, Panthers to make the first kickoff?

And would it be extra cheap to then bet another parlay on the opposite of the above?

Is this a bet you can make in Vegas? I'm probably missing something, but isn't this guaranteed money? You're getting 6-1 on a bet that only has 4 possible outcomes (NE Wins and Kicks, NE Wins and Receives, Car wins and kicks, Car wins and receives) unless there's an onside kick to start the game.

So if you walked into a casino with 10 grand and bet 2500 on each of those, you'd walk out with 15k guaranteed.

What am I missing - this could be a retirement plan
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You're missing that the booking would catch on and probably send two very large men your way to "pursuade" you not to make that bet.
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Old 01-30-2004, 05:24 PM   #15
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I have never seen this kind of betting before, so my questions will probably seem newbish, but...

If I put 100 points on a -115 bet, what do I get back? It would seem that putting bets on just a -115 bet would always have you end up losing money. Wouldn't you want to just bet on + #'s for single selections? I'm missing something here...
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I have never seen this kind of betting before, so my questions will probably seem newbish, but...

If I put 100 points on a -115 bet, what do I get back? It would seem that putting bets on just a -115 bet would always have you end up losing money. Wouldn't you want to just bet on + #'s for single selections? I'm missing something here...

You always win your money back. the -115 just governs what extra you win, in this case you cash in for around $187.
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Oh, ok. So it's added to what I put in.

So if I put in $115 on a -115, I get the $115 back plus the $100. And if I put $100 on a +130, I'll get $230. Got it (I hope).
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100 on Pathers covering the spread (+6 1/2) -115

100 on 486 TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY MUSHIN MUHAMMAD OVER 52½ NA NA -115

200 on 903 PLAYER TO BE NAMED MVP FOR THE SUPERBOWL XXXVIII STEPHEN DAVIS NA NA +800

200 on 433 NE WINS 1ST HALF AND CAROLINA WINS GAME NA NA +800

200 on 337 (Total QB sakcs by both teams) OVER NA OV 4½ (-105) NA

100 on 303 (Will there be a successful 2pt conversion) YES NA NA +400

100 Parely on (150-1 odds)
  • 379 (Will both teams have the lead in the first half) YES NA NA +160
  • 222 (Will either team score 3 times unanswered) NO NA NA +145
  • 289 (First team to score in the 2nd half) PANTHERS NA NA +110
  • 336 (Total number of punts in the game) UNDER NA UN 10½ (+120) NA
  • 310 (Will there be a lost fumble in the 1st half) NO NA NA +145
  • 396 (Will the Panthers score 2 or more TDs) YES NA NA +260
  • 344 (Team to get first penalty) PATRIOTS NA NA +110
  • 326 (Will there be an onside kick attempted) NO NA NA +125
Another question. How do I calculate what my winnings would be for the parley bets? I know I would apply the odds to it, but where I get confused is with, say my #2 parley bet. One is -115 and the other is -155. Do I avergae that and then apply odds? Or what do I do...?

EDIT: fixed 'em

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Is this a bet you can make in Vegas? I'm probably missing something, but isn't this guaranteed money? You're getting 6-1 on a bet that only has 4 possible outcomes (NE Wins and Kicks, NE Wins and Receives, Car wins and kicks, Car wins and receives) unless there's an onside kick to start the game.

So if you walked into a casino with 10 grand and bet 2500 on each of those, you'd walk out with 15k guaranteed.

What am I missing - this could be a retirement plan

What you're missing is that betting houses only allow parlay action on wagers that are both (a) essentially even-money propositions (other than the house edge) and (b) unrelated events.

Nobody offers a parlay on things like the coin toss and who gets the kickoff... the fact that they are related makes is senseless to offer. These guys don't build huge, lavish, palacial casinos and sports books by offering beatable odds.
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A player may select to make one of their bets a parlay

I read this to mean one, and not one or more. Am I misunderstanding? Seems not all agree with my reading...
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Umm, can I just bet it all for the Panters to win?
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I read this to mean one, and not one or more. Am I misunderstanding? Seems not all agree with my reading...

Oops...looks like you are right. That how that reads to me. Must have missed that the first time read it...guess I'll redo my bets sometime tonight or tomorrow.
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I’ll make a $500 parlay bet as follows:
NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN
308 NO -1000
NFL Props WHICH PUNTER WILL HAVE THE LONGEST PUNT IN GAME
412 TODD SAUERBURN -180
NFL Props WILL THE TEAM THAT SCORES FIRST WIN THE GAME
375 YES -180

I will also put $200 on:
NFL Props PLAYER TO RECORD THE FIRST PASS INTERCEPTION
939 THE FIELD +500

And $200 on:
NFL Props PLAYER TO BE NAMED MVP FOR THE SUPERBOWL XXXVIII
901 TOM BRADY +175

And I can’t help myself, but to put my final $100 on:
NFL Props TOTAL RUSH + PASS RECEIVING YARDS BY LARRY CENTERS
492 OVER 9½ -115
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Umm, can I just bet it all for the Panters to win?

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1) Each bettor has 1000 Points, which to make 3 or more bets on Super Bowl XXXVIII. The mininum bet size is 100.

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Thanks QS.

I'll think of something else.
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Old 01-31-2004, 07:40 PM   #28
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WHO WILL SCORE MORE POINTS

PANTHERS (+6 1/2) -115



250 on

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN

308 NO NA NA -1000



250 on

NFL Props WILL THE GAME GO INTO OVERTIME

312 NO NA NA -900


I hope this makes sense.
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NFL Props WILL ANY PANTHERS PLAYER SCORE 2 OR MORE TOUCHDOWNS
396 YES NA NA +260

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NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN 1ST 7MIN 30SEC OF 1ST QTR
374 NO NA NA -105

250 on:
NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING YARDS MADE BY ANTOWAIN SMITH
390 OVER 80½ NA NA +135

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Patriots (-6 1/2) -115

NFL Props MOST PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY
510 MUSHIN MUHAMMAD +1 (-130) NA NA

NFL Props TOTAL QUARTERBACK SACKS MADE IN GAME BY BOTH TEAMS
337 OVER NA OV 4½ (-105) NA

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN LAST 3MIN 30SEC OF GAME
328 NO NA NA -115

NFL Props TEAM TO PUNT FIRST
345 PANTHERS NA NA -125

NFL Props WILL EITHER TEAM SCORE 3 TIMES UNANSWERED
222 NO NA NA +145

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN 1ST 7MIN 30SEC OF 1ST QTR
373 YES NA NA -125

I'll bet 150 on 803 ANTOWAIN SMITH NA NA +650

I'll bet 150 on NFL Props T BRADY 1ST PASS WILL BE
243 INCOMPLETE/INT NA NA +160
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200 on Panthers + 6 1/2 (I think they will lose but cover) (-115)
200 on Under 38 1/2 (-115)
150 on 511 Most Pass Receptoins - David Givens -1 (+100)
150 on 500 Deon Branch Over 3.5 rec (+100)
150 on 440 0 Carolina TD Passes (+150)
150 on 301 2pt conversion attempt (+150)
100 (Parley) on
  • 326 No Onside Kick (+125)
  • 222 Neither team scores 3 times unasnwered (+145)
100 on 901 Tom Brady MVP (+175)
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200 on Panthers + 6 1/2 (I think they will lose but cover) (-115)
Win +373 Total = 373
200 on Under 38 1/2 (-115)
Loss
150 on 511 Most Pass Receptoins - David Givens -1 (+100)
Muhamed:4 Givens:5 - push +100 Total = 523
150 on 500 Deon Branch Over 3.5 rec (+100)
Win +300 Total = 823
150 on 440 0 Carolina TD Passes (+150)
Loss Total = 823
150 on 301 2pt conversion attempt (+150)
Win +325 Total = 1158
100 (Parley) on
  • 326 No Onside Kick (+125)
  • 222 Neither team scores 3 times unasnwered (+145)
Win + 360 Total = 1518
100 on 901 Tom Brady MVP (+175)
Win +275 Total = 1793

[Edit - corrected math now that I have a lower BAC]
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I’ll make a $500 parlay bet as follows:
NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN
308 NO -1000
NFL Props WHICH PUNTER WILL HAVE THE LONGEST PUNT IN GAME
412 TODD SAUERBURN -180
NFL Props WILL THE TEAM THAT SCORES FIRST WIN THE GAME
375 YES -180

I will also put $200 on:
NFL Props PLAYER TO RECORD THE FIRST PASS INTERCEPTION
939 THE FIELD +500

And $200 on:
NFL Props PLAYER TO BE NAMED MVP FOR THE SUPERBOWL XXXVIII
901 TOM BRADY +175

And I can’t help myself, but to put my final $100 on:
NFL Props TOTAL RUSH + PASS RECEIVING YARDS BY LARRY CENTERS
492 OVER 9½ -115


I believe that I hit on my parlay for $3,500 and on Brady MVP for $550... bringing in $4,050 for the $1,000 stake. I can't believe that Larry Centers let me down, though. *sigh*
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NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN
308 NO -1000
NFL Props WHICH PUNTER WILL HAVE THE LONGEST PUNT IN GAME
412 TODD SAUERBURN -180
NFL Props WILL THE TEAM THAT SCORES FIRST WIN THE GAME
375 YES -180


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I believe that I hit on my parlay for $3,500 and on Brady MVP for $550... bringing in $4,050 for the $1,000 stake. I can't believe that Larry Centers let me down, though. *sigh*
Actually you pushed on the ounting parley. According to http://www.superbowl.com/gamecenter/...0040201_CAR@NE, both punters had a 51 yarder.
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:16 AM   #34
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:22 AM   #35
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500 on

WHO WILL SCORE MORE POINTS

PANTHERS (+6 1/2) -115



250 on

NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN

308 NO NA NA -1000



250 on

NFL Props WILL THE GAME GO INTO OVERTIME

312 NO NA NA -900


I hope this makes sense.


How did I do? I don't know how betting and payoffs work.
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Actually you pushed on the ounting parley. According to (link), both punters had a 51 yarder.

Brutal. I saw Sauerbrun's 51-yarder... missed the other. I'm devastated.
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How did I do? I don't know how betting and payoffs work.

Your point spread bet paid off $500+$434=$934.
(-115 means you have to bet $115 to win $100)
$250 on no missed XP pays $250 + $25 = $275.
$250 on no overtime pays $250 + $28 = $278.

You bring back $1,487 for your $1,000 wagered (rounded to the dollar).
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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast
500 on
WHO WILL SCORE MORE POINTS
PANTHERS (+6 1/2) -115

+934 = 934

250 on
NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN
308 NO NA NA -1000
+275 = 1209

250 on
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312 NO NA NA -900
+278 = 1487
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