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(FOFC) Super Bowl Betting Pool, Rules Inside
One of my friends managed to get me a list of one of the sportsbooks propositions (props) for this sunday's Superbowl, so I decided to make a game out of it:
1) Each bettor has 1000 Points, which to make 3 or more bets on Super Bowl XXXVIII. The mininum bet size is 100. 2) A player may select to make one of their bets a parlay, (ie an all or nothing bet that can be very lucrative). A parlay is two or more selections. If any of the selection in the parlay FAILS, then the whole bet is lost. If all the selections are true, it pays off as follows: Code:
One last minute change to make it tougher: You cannot select a -200 or higher in a 2 selection parlay, and only one -200 or higher in a 3 or more selection parlay. Here's the list: (For gambling newbies, a - # means you have to bet that much to get 100 back, a + number means you bet 100 to get that much back if you win) STANDARD PROP: WHO WILL SCORE MORE POINTS PANTHERS (+6 1/2) -115 Patriots (-6 1/2) -115 OVER/UNDER FOR GAME OVER 38 1/2 -115 UNDER 38 1/2 -115 NFL Props FIRST TEAM TO KICKOFF 157 PANTHERS NA NA -115 158 PATRIOTS NA NA -115 NFL Props WILL THE COIN LAND ON 153 HEADS NA NA -115 154 TAILS NA NA -115 NFL Props TEAM TO RECEIVE THE OPENING KICKOFF IN THE GAME 155 PANTHERS NA NA -115 156 PATRIOTS NA NA -115 NFL Props WHO WILL WIN THE COIN TOSS 151 CAROLINA PANTHERS NA NA -115 152 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS NA NA -115 NFL Props MOST PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY 510 MUSHIN MUHAMMAD +1 (-130) NA NA 511 DAVID GIVENS -1 (+100) NA NA NFL Props MOST PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY 508 MUSHIN MUHAMMAD +1 (-150) NA NA 509 TROY BROWN -1 (+120) NA NA NFL Props MOST PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY 506 STEVE SMITH -1½ (-105) NA NA 507 TROY BROWN +1½ (-125) NA NA NFL Props MOST PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY 504 STEVE SMITH -23½ NA NA -105 505 TROY BROWN +23½ NA NA -125 NFL Props MOST PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY 502 STEVE SMITH -17½ NA NA -115 503 DAVID GIVENS +17½ NA NA -115 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY DEION BRANCH 500 OVER 3½ NA NA +100 501 UNDER 3½ NA NA -130 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY DEION BRANCH 498 OVER 39½ NA NA -160 499 UNDER 39½ NA NA +130 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY TROY BROWN 494 OVER 49½ NA NA +105 495 UNDER 49½ NA NA -135 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY TROY BROWN 496 OVER 4½ NA NA +145 497 UNDER 4½ NA NA -175 NFL Props TOTAL RUSH + PASS RECEIVING YARDS BY LARRY CENTERS 492 OVER 9½ NA NA -115 493 UNDER 9½ NA NA -115 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY MUSHIN MUHAMMAD 490 OVER 3½ NA NA -155 491 UNDER 3½ NA NA +125 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY STEVE SMITH 488 OVER 5½ NA NA +125 489 UNDER 5½ NA NA -155 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY MUSHIN MUHAMMAD 486 OVER 52½ NA NA -115 487 UNDER 52½ NA NA -115 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY RICKEY PROEHL 484 OVER 12½ NA NA -150 485 UNDER 12½ NA NA +120 NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSH + PASS RECEIVING YARDS BY BRAD HOOVER 482 OVER 10½ NA NA -135 483 UNDER 10½ NA NA +105 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY STEVE SMITH 480 OVER 73½ NA NA -110 481 UNDER 73½ NA NA -120 NFL Props LONGEST PASS RECEPTION BY STEVE SMITH 478 OVER 21 YARDS NA NA -140 479 UNDER 21 YARDS NA NA +110 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY CHRISTIAN FAURIA 476 OVER 13½ NA NA -135 477 UNDER 13½ NA NA +105 NFL Props TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY DANIEL GRAHAM 474 OVER 17½ NA NA -115 475 UNDER 17½ NA NA -115 NFL Props MOST PASS RECEPTIONS MADE IN THE GAME BY 472 STEVE SMITH -1 NA NA +120 473 DAVID GIVENS +1 NA NA -150 NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING YARDS MADE BY KEVIN FAULK 470 OVER 18½ NA NA -140 471 UNDER 18½ NA NA +110 NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING YARDS MADE BY JAKE DELHOMME 468 OVER 4 NA NA -115 469 UNDER 4 NA NA -115 NFL Props TOTAL PASS ATTEMPTS MADE BY JAKE DELHOMME 466 OVER 28½ NA NA -110 467 UNDER 28½ NA NA -120 NFL Props TOTAL GROSS PASSING YARDS BY JAKE DELHOMME 464 OVER 201 NA NA -120 465 UNDER 201 NA NA -110 NFL Props TOTAL PASS COMPLETIONS MADE BY JAKE DELHOMME 462 OVER NA OV 16½ (-110) NA 463 UNDER NA UN 16½ (-120) NA NFL Props TOTAL FIELD GOALS MADE BY BOTH TEAMS 460 OVER 3½ NA NA -105 461 UNDER 3½ NA NA -125 NFL Props THE SHORTEST FIELD GOAL MADE IN THE GAME WILL BE 458 OVER 25½ YARDS NA NA +100 459 UNDER 25½ YARDS NA NA -130 NFL Props THE LONGEST FIELD GOAL MADE IN THE GAME WILL BE 456 OVER 44½ YARDS NA NA -110 457 UNDER 44½ YARDS NA NA -120 NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING + RECEIVING YARDS BY DESHAUN FOSTER 454 OVER NA OV 47½ (-110) NA 455 UNDER NA UN 47½ (-120) NA NFL Props TOTAL TOUCHDOWN PASSES THROWN BY NEW ENGLAND 447 0 TOUCHDOWN PASS NA NA +225 448 1 TOUCHDOWN PASS NA NA +150 449 2 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +180 450 3 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +400 451 4 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +1000 452 5 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +2500 453 6 OR MORE TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +3300 NFL Props TOTAL TOUCHDOWN PASSES THROWN BY CAROLINA 440 0 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +150 441 1 TOUCHDOWN PASS NA NA +100 442 2 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +300 443 3 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +800 444 4 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +2000 445 5 TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +3500 446 6 OR MORE TOUCHDOWN PASSES NA NA +5000 NFL Props TOTAL LOST FUMBLES MADE BY BOTH TEAMS 281 0 FUMBLE NA NA +200 282 1 FUMBLE NA NA +150 283 2 FUMBLES NA NA +250 284 3 FUMBLES NA NA +500 285 4 FUMBLES NA NA +1000 286 5 OR MORE FUMBLES NA NA +2500 NFL Props THE LAST SCORING PLAY OF THE GAME WILL BE 271 CAR - FIELD GOAL NA NA +450 272 CAR - TD PASS NA NA +400 273 CAR - TD RUN NA NA +500 274 ANY OTHER CAR TD NA NA +1500 275 CAR - SAFETY NA NA +2800 276 NE - FIELD GOAL NA NA +300 277 NE - TD PASS NA NA +350 278 NE - TD RUN NA NA +450 279 ANY OTHER NE TD NA NA +1200 280 NE - SAFETY NA NA +2800 NFL Props TEAM TO SCORE FIRST AND FIANL RESULT 436 CAROLINA SCORE 1ST AND WIN GAME NA NA +300 437 CAROLINA SCORE 1ST AND LOSE GAME NA NA +200 438 NEW ENGLAND SCORE 1ST AND WIN GAME NA NA -150 439 NEW ENGLAND SCORE 1ST AND LOSE GAME NA NA +500 NFL Props FIRST HALF SCORE AND FINAL RESULT OF THE GAME 430 CAROLINA WINS 1ST HALF AND GAME NA NA +250 431 CAROLINA WINS 1ST HALF AND NE WINS GAME NA NA +320 432 NE WINS 1ST HALF AND GAME NA NA -150 433 NE WINS 1ST HALF AND CAROLINA WINS GAME NA NA +800 434 1ST HALF TIED AND CAROLINA WINS GAME NA NA +1200 435 1ST HALF TIED AND NE WINS GAME NA NA +1000 NFL Props TOTAL TD PASSES MADE BY PANTHERS QBS 428 OVER NA OV 1½ (+180) NA 429 UNDER NA UN 1½ (-220) NA NFL Props WHICH QUARTER WILL MOST POINTS BE SCORED IN (OT DOESN'T COUNT FOR 4TH QTR) 203 1ST QUARTER NA NA +270 204 2ND QUARTER NA NA +190 205 3RD QUARTER NA NA +260 206 4TH QUARTER NA NA +185 NFL Props WILL THERE BE MORE POINTS SCORED IN 201 1ST HALF + ½ POINTS NA NA -120 202 2ND HALF + OT - ½ POINTS NA NA -110 NFL Props FIRST TEAM TO SCORE IN THE 2ND HALF 289 PANTHERS NA NA +110 290 PATRIOTS NA NA -140 NFL Props THE FIRST SCORING PLAY OF THE GAME WILL BE 261 NE - FIELD GOAL NA NA +300 262 NE - TD PASS NA NA +300 263 NE - TD RUN NA NA +600 264 NE - TD OTHER NA NA +1000 265 NE - SAFETY NA NA +3500 266 CAR - FIELD GOAL NA NA +300 267 CAR - TD PASS NA NA +500 268 CAR - TD RUN NA NA +550 269 CAR - TD OTHER NA NA +1000 270 CAR - SAFETY NA NA +4000 NFL Props TOTAL PASSING YARDS BY T BRADY 251 OVER NA OV 233½ (-110) NA 252 UNDER NA UN 233½ (-110) NA NFL Props TOTAL PASSING YARDS BY J DELHOMME 249 OVER NA OV 200½ (-110) NA 250 UNDER NA UN 200½ (-110) NA NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING YARDS MADE BY TOM BRADY 426 OVER NA OV 5 (+105) NA 427 UNDER NA UN 5 (-135) NA NFL Props TOTAL PASSING ATTEMPTS MADE BY TOM BRADY 424 OVER NA OV 33½ (-140) NA 425 UNDER NA UN 33½ (+110) NA NFL Props TOTAL PASS COMPLETIONS MADE BY TOM BRADY 420 OVER NA OV 21½ (-115) NA 421 UNDER NA UN 21½ (-115) NA NFL Props MOST NET RUSHING YARDS BY 416 ANTOWAIN SMITH -6½ (+120) NA NA 417 STEPHEN DAVIS +6½ (-150) NA NA NFL Props MOST NET RUSHING + RECEIVING YARDS BY 414 DESHAUN FOSTER -10 (-125) NA NA 415 KEVIN FAULK +10 (-105) NA NA NFL Props WHICH PUNTER WILL HAVE THE LONGEST PUNT IN GAME 412 TODD SAUERBURN NA NA -180 413 KEN WALTER NA NA +150 NFL Props WHO WILL THROW THE FIRST TD PASS IN THE GAME 410 JAKE DELHOMME NA NA +160 411 TOM BRADY NA NA -200 NFL Props MOST NET RUSHING YARDS BY 408 JAKE DELHOMME +½ NA NA -115 409 TOM BRADY -½ NA NA -115 NFL Props MOST PASS COMPLETIONS MADE BY 406 JAKE DELHOMME +4 (+105) NA NA 407 TOM BRADY -4 (-135) NA NA NFL Props MOST NET PASSING YARDS MADE BY 404 JAKE DELHOMME +28½ (+115) NA NA 405 TOM BRADY -28½ (-145) NA NA NFL Props WILL ANY PATRIOT PLAYER SCORE 2 OR MORE TOUCHDOWNS 402 YES NA NA +220 403 NO NA NA -260 NFL Props WILL THE PATRIOTS SCORE MORE POINTS IN 400 1ST HALF NA NA -115 401 2ND HALF NA NA -115 NFL Props WILL ANY PANTHERS PLAYER SCORE 2 OR MORE TOUCHDOWNS 396 YES NA NA +260 397 NO NA NA -320 NFL Props WILL THE PANTHERS SCORE MORE POINTS IN 394 1ST HALF NA NA -115 395 2ND HALF NA NA -115 NFL Props WILL THE PANTHERS SCORE IN EVERY QUARTER 392 YES NA NA +350 393 NO NA NA -500 NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING YARDS MADE BY ANTOWAIN SMITH 390 OVER 80½ NA NA +135 391 UNDER 80½ NA NA -165 NFL Props T BRADY 1ST PASS WILL BE 243 INCOMPLETE/INT NA NA +160 244 COMPLETE NA NA -200 NFL Props J DELHOMMES 1ST PASS WILL BE 241 INCOMPLETE/INT NA NA +130 242 COMPLETE NA NA -160 NFL Props TEAM TO CALL THE FIRST TIMEOUT 239 PANTHERS NA NA -120 240 PATRIOTS NA NA -110 NFL Props FIRST TEAM TO USE COACHES CHALLENGE 237 PANTHERS NA NA -115 238 PATRIOTS NA NA -115 NFL Props TEAM TO COMMMIT THE FIRST TURNOVER 235 PANTHERS NA NA -140 236 PATRIOTS NA NA +110 NFL Props WILL CAROLINA EVER HAVE THE LEAD 233 YES NA NA -180 234 NO NA NA +150 NFL Props THE FIRST TURNOVER OF THE GAME WILL BE 385 FUMBLE NA NA +125 386 INTERCEPTION NA NA -155 387 NO TURNOVERS IN GAME NA NA +800 NFL Props THE LAST SCORE OF THE GAME WILL BE 383 TOUCHDOWN NA NA -155 384 FIELD GOAL OR SAFETY NA NA +125 NFL Props THE FIRST SCORE OF THE GAME WILL BE 381 TOUCHDOWN NA NA -140 382 FIELD GOAL OR SAFETY NA NA +110 NFL Props WILL BOTH TEAMS HAVE THE LEAD IN THE FIRST HALF 379 YES NA NA +160 380 NO NA NA -200 NFL Props WILL THE TEAM THAT SCORES LAST WIN THE GAME 377 YES NA NA -200 378 NO NA NA +160 NFL Props WILL THE TEAM THAT SCORES FIRST WIN THE GAME 375 YES NA NA -180 376 NO NA NA +150 NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN 1ST 7MIN 30SEC OF 1ST QTR 373 YES NA NA -125 374 NO NA NA -105 NFL Props TEAM TO HAVE THE LONGEST FIELD GOAL 371 PANTHERS NA NA +125 372 PATRIOTS NA NA -155 NFL Props TEAM TO MISS THE FIRST FIELD GOAL IN THE GAME 369 PANTHERS NA NA -140 370 PATRIOTS NA NA +110 NFL Props TEAM TO MAKE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL FIELD GOAL 367 PANTHERS NA NA +110 368 PATRIOTS NA NA -140 NFL Props TEAM TO SCORE LAST IN THE FIRST HALF 365 PANTHERS NA NA +100 366 PATRIOTS NA NA -130 NFL Props TEAM TO HAVE THE MOST 1ST DOWNS 363 PANTHERS +2 NA NA -120 364 PATRIOTS -2 NA NA -110 NFL Props TEAM TO RECORD THE FIRST PASS INTERCEPTION 361 PANTHERS NA NA +125 362 PATRIOTS NA NA -155 NFL Props TEAM TO GET CALLED FOR HOLDING PENALTY 1ST 359 PANTHERS NA NA -115 360 PATRIOTS NA NA -115 NFL Props FIRST TEAM TO BE PENALIZED FOR PASS INTERFERENCE 357 PANTHERS NA NA -125 358 PATRIOTS NA NA -105 NFL Props FIRST TEAM OFFENSE TO CROSS 50 YARD LINE (MIDFIELD) 355 PANTHERS NA NA +105 356 PATRIOTS NA NA -135 NFL Props WHICH TEAM WILL RECORD THE FIRST QB SACK 353 PANTHERS NA NA -110 354 PATRIOTS NA NA -120 NFL Props TEAM TO HAVE THE LONGEST PUNT RETURN 351 PANTHERS NA NA -110 352 PATRIOTS NA NA -120 NFL Props TEAM TO HAVE THE LONGEST KICKOFF RETURN 349 PANTHERS NA NA -125 350 PATRIOTS NA NA -105 NFL Props TEAM TO HAVE THE LONGEST TOUCHDOWN SCORE 347 PANTHERS NA NA +135 348 PATRIOTS NA NA -165 NFL Props TEAM TO PUNT FIRST 345 PANTHERS NA NA -125 346 PATRIOTS NA NA -105 NFL Props TEAM TO GET THE FIRST PENALTY 343 PANTHERS NA NA -140 344 PATRIOTS NA NA +110 NFL Props TEAM TO GET THE FIRST 1ST DOWN 341 PANTHERS NA NA -105 342 PATRIOTS NA NA -125 NFL Props TOTAL POINTS SCORED BY PANTHERS 209 OVER NA OV 16 (-115) NA 210 UNDER NA UN 16 (-115) NA NFL Props TOTAL POINTS SCORED BY PATRIOTS 211 OVER NA OV 23 (-105) NA 212 UNDER NA UN 23 (-125) NA NFL Props THE LONGEST TOUCHDOWN IN THE GAME WILL BE 339 OVER 38½ YRDS NA NA -110 340 UNDER 38½ YRDS NA NA -120 NFL Props TOTAL QUARTERBACK SACKS MADE IN GAME BY BOTH TEAMS 337 OVER NA OV 4½ (-105) NA 338 UNDER NA UN 4½ (-125) NA NFL Props TOTAL PUNTS MADE IN THE GAME BY BOTH TEAMS 335 OVER NA OV 10½ (-150) NA 336 UNDER NA UN 10½ (+120) NA NFL Props TOTAL SACKS RECORDED BY PATRIOTS DEFENSE WILL BE 333 OVER NA OV 2½ (-105) NA 334 UNDER NA UN 2½ (-125) NA NFL Props TOTAL SACKS RECORDED BY PANTHERS DEFENSE WILL BE 331 OVER NA OV 1½ (-160) NA 332 UNDER NA UN 1½ (+130) NA NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN LAST 3MIN 30SEC OF GAME 327 YES NA NA -115 328 NO NA NA -115 NFL Props WILL A ONSIDE KICK BE ATTEMPTED IN THE GAME 325 YES NA NA -155 326 NO NA NA +125 NFL Props THE LAST SCORE OF THE FIRST HALF WILL BE 323 A FIELD GOAL NA NA -125 324 ANY OTHER SCORE NA NA -105 NFL Props PLAYER TO SCORE THE LAST TOUCHDOWN WILL HAVE 321 ODD NUMBER JERSEY NA NA -115 322 EVEN NUMBER JERSEY NA NA -115 NFL Props PLAYER TO SCORE THE FIRST TOUCHDOWN WILL HAVE 319 ODD NUMBER JERSEY NA NA -120 320 EVEN NUMBER JERSEY NA NA -110 NFL Props WILL THE FINAL SCORE DIFFERENTIAL BE A 317 ODD NUMBER NA NA -135 318 EVEN NUMBER NA NA +105 NFL Props THE FINAL SCORE FOR PATRIOTS WILL BE 315 ODD NUMBER NA NA -125 316 EVEN NUMBER NA NA -105 NFL Props THE FINAL SCORE FOR PANTHERS WILL BE 313 ODD NUMBER NA NA -125 314 EVEN NUMBER NA NA -105 NFL Props WILL THE GAME GO INTO OVERTIME 311 YES NA NA +600 312 NO NA NA -900 NFL Props WILL THERE BE A LOST FUMBLE IN THE 1ST HALF 309 YES NA NA -175 310 NO NA NA +145 NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN 307 YES NA NA +700 308 NO NA NA -1000 NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SAFETY IN THE GAME 305 YES NA NA +700 306 NO NA NA -1000 NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SUCCESSFUL 2 POINT CONVERSION 303 YES NA NA +400 304 NO NA NA -600 NFL Props WILL THERE BE A 2 POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT 301 YES NA NA +150 302 NO NA NA -180 NFL Props WILL EITHER TEAM SCORE 3 TIMES UNANSWERED 221 YES NA NA -175 222 NO NA NA +145 NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN LAST 2MIN OF THE 1ST HALF 219 YES NA NA -200 220 NO NA NA +160 NFL Props LAST TEAM TO SCORE WINS GAME 217 YES NA NA -200 218 NO NA NA +160 NFL Props TEAM TO SCORE FIRST 213 PANTHERS NA NA +130 214 PATRIOTS NA NA -160 NFL Props TEAM TO SCORE LAST 215 PANTHERS NA NA +125 216 PATRIOTS NA NA -155 NFL Props PLAYER TO SCORE THE FIRST TOUCHDOWN 801 JAKE DELHOMME NA NA +2500 802 TOM BRADY NA NA +2500 803 ANTOWAIN SMITH NA NA +650 804 DESHAUN FOSTER NA NA +900 805 STEPHEN DAVIS NA NA +500 806 STEVE SMITH NA NA +700 807 KEVIN FAULK NA NA +1500 808 MUSHIN MAHAMMAD NA NA +800 809 TROY BROWN NA NA +1000 810 DEION BRANCH NA NA +1000 811 DAVID GIVENS NA NA +1000 812 BRAD HOOVER NA NA +1800 813 DANIEL GRAHAM NA NA +1200 814 CHRISTIAN FAURIA NA NA +1200 815 JERMAINE WIGGINS NA NA +1800 816 RICKY PROEHL NA NA +1500 817 BETHEL JOHNSON NA NA +1200 818 FIELD NA NA +400 819 NO TD SCORED IN GAME NA NA +4000 NFL Props PLAYER TO BE NAMED MVP FOR THE SUPERBOWL XXXVIII 901 TOM BRADY NA NA +175 902 JAKE DELHOMME NA NA +500 903 STEPHEN DAVIS NA NA +800 904 ANTOWAIN SMITH NA NA +1200 905 DAVID GIVENS NA NA +2200 906 DESHAUN FOSTER NA NA +1500 907 MUHSIN MAHAMMAD NA NA +2000 908 TROY BROWN NA NA +2000 909 KEVIN FAULK NA NA +2800 910 DEION BRANCH NA NA +2200 911 ADAM VINATIERI NA NA +2500 912 STEVE SMITH NA NA +1500 913 MIKE RUCKER NA NA +2500 914 DAN MORGAN NA NA +2500 915 BETHEL JOHNSON NA NA +2800 916 WILLIE MCGINEST NA NA +2000 917 JULIUS PEPPERS NA NA +2500 918 KRIS JENKINS NA NA +2500 919 RODNEY HARRISON NA NA +1800 920 JOHN KASAY NA NA +3500 921 ASANTE SAMUEL NA NA +3000 922 TY LAW NA NA +1600 923 RICKY MANNING JR NA NA +2200 924 THE FIELD NA NA +650 NFL Props PLAYER TO RECORD THE FIRST PASS INTERCEPTION 925 RICKY MANNING NA NA +600 926 TYRONE POOLE NA NA +650 927 TY LAW NA NA +550 928 EUGENE WILSON NA NA +800 929 RODNEY HARRISON NA NA +800 930 DEON GRANT NA NA +800 931 MIKE MINTER NA NA +900 932 DAN MORGAN NA NA +1200 933 JULIUS PEPPERS NA NA +1200 934 ASANTE SAMUEL NA NA +800 935 MIKE VRABEL NA NA +1200 936 WILLIE MCGINEST NA NA +1000 937 REGGIE HOWARD NA NA +900 938 WILL WITHERSPOON NA NA +1200 939 THE FIELD NA NA +500
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01-30-2004, 04:52 AM | #2 |
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I will go first:
Bet 1: Placing 200 that "The Field" will be MVP (that means any player but those listed) (+650) Bet 2: I will place 500 on the Patriots giving 6 1/2 points (-115) Bet 3: A 4 selection Parlay for 300 on the following: (No score in last 3 min 30 seconds), Last Team To Score Wins, Patriots to Score First, and First team to Score Wins) (10/1, or +1000)
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01-30-2004, 07:10 AM | #3 |
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800 on 7-bet Parlay of the following (75-1 odds):
100 on:
100 on:
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01-30-2004, 08:29 AM | #4 |
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This is a side issue, but giving $115 to get $100 on an even money proposition (-115) is a bad bet - the bookies have close to a 7% edge. There have to be better odds somewhere else, at least on the basic bets (spread & over/under).
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01-30-2004, 08:46 AM | #5 |
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200 on Panthers + 6 1/2 (I think they will lose but cover) (-115)
200 on Under 38 1/2 (-115) 150 on 511 Most Pass Receptoins - David Givens -1 (+100) 150 on 500 Deon Branch Over 3.5 rec (+100) 150 on 440 0 Carolina TD Passes (+150) 150 on 301 2pt conversion attempt (+150) 100 (Parley) on
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01-30-2004, 12:11 PM | #6 |
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Ok 3 bettors have played. Betting closes of course at 6:00 PM on Sunday
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01-30-2004, 12:16 PM | #7 |
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Would it be considered cheap to take the 6-1 odds on a 3-bet parlay: Pats to win the toss, Pats to recieve first kickoff, Panthers to make the first kickoff?
And would it be extra cheap to then bet another parlay on the opposite of the above?
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01-30-2004, 12:18 PM | #8 |
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Hmmm.. That would be kind of cheap.. but can't you defer the opening kickoff?
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01-30-2004, 12:19 PM | #9 | |
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01-30-2004, 12:20 PM | #10 | |
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First time I've heard "cheap" and "gambling" in the same phrase. If someone is going to make a living off being a sports book, they deserve to get taken on something like this.
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01-30-2004, 12:22 PM | #11 | |
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01-30-2004, 12:43 PM | #12 |
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I copied the rules on parlays from another site then the one my friend directed me to for the props.. I'm sure they give reduced odds parlays on something like that.
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01-30-2004, 05:10 PM | #13 | |
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Is this a bet you can make in Vegas? I'm probably missing something, but isn't this guaranteed money? You're getting 6-1 on a bet that only has 4 possible outcomes (NE Wins and Kicks, NE Wins and Receives, Car wins and kicks, Car wins and receives) unless there's an onside kick to start the game. So if you walked into a casino with 10 grand and bet 2500 on each of those, you'd walk out with 15k guaranteed. What am I missing - this could be a retirement plan |
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01-30-2004, 05:16 PM | #14 |
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You're missing that the booking would catch on and probably send two very large men your way to "pursuade" you not to make that bet.
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01-30-2004, 05:24 PM | #15 |
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I have never seen this kind of betting before, so my questions will probably seem newbish, but...
If I put 100 points on a -115 bet, what do I get back? It would seem that putting bets on just a -115 bet would always have you end up losing money. Wouldn't you want to just bet on + #'s for single selections? I'm missing something here... |
01-30-2004, 05:37 PM | #16 | |
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You always win your money back. the -115 just governs what extra you win, in this case you cash in for around $187. |
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01-30-2004, 05:43 PM | #17 |
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Oh, ok. So it's added to what I put in.
So if I put in $115 on a -115, I get the $115 back plus the $100. And if I put $100 on a +130, I'll get $230. Got it (I hope). |
01-31-2004, 05:14 PM | #18 |
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100 on Pathers covering the spread (+6 1/2) -115
100 on 486 TOTAL PASS RECEIVING YARDS MADE BY MUSHIN MUHAMMAD OVER 52½ NA NA -115 200 on 903 PLAYER TO BE NAMED MVP FOR THE SUPERBOWL XXXVIII STEPHEN DAVIS NA NA +800 200 on 433 NE WINS 1ST HALF AND CAROLINA WINS GAME NA NA +800 200 on 337 (Total QB sakcs by both teams) OVER NA OV 4½ (-105) NA 100 on 303 (Will there be a successful 2pt conversion) YES NA NA +400 100 Parely on (150-1 odds)
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01-31-2004, 06:12 PM | #19 | |
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What you're missing is that betting houses only allow parlay action on wagers that are both (a) essentially even-money propositions (other than the house edge) and (b) unrelated events. Nobody offers a parlay on things like the coin toss and who gets the kickoff... the fact that they are related makes is senseless to offer. These guys don't build huge, lavish, palacial casinos and sports books by offering beatable odds. |
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01-31-2004, 06:15 PM | #20 | |
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I read this to mean one, and not one or more. Am I misunderstanding? Seems not all agree with my reading... |
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01-31-2004, 06:19 PM | #21 |
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Umm, can I just bet it all for the Panters to win?
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01-31-2004, 06:28 PM | #22 | |
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Oops...looks like you are right. That how that reads to me. Must have missed that the first time read it...guess I'll redo my bets sometime tonight or tomorrow. |
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01-31-2004, 06:29 PM | #23 |
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I bet all my money on the Vikings.
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01-31-2004, 06:36 PM | #24 |
lolzcat
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I’ll make a $500 parlay bet as follows:
NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN 308 NO -1000 NFL Props WHICH PUNTER WILL HAVE THE LONGEST PUNT IN GAME 412 TODD SAUERBURN -180 NFL Props WILL THE TEAM THAT SCORES FIRST WIN THE GAME 375 YES -180 I will also put $200 on: NFL Props PLAYER TO RECORD THE FIRST PASS INTERCEPTION 939 THE FIELD +500 And $200 on: NFL Props PLAYER TO BE NAMED MVP FOR THE SUPERBOWL XXXVIII 901 TOM BRADY +175 And I can’t help myself, but to put my final $100 on: NFL Props TOTAL RUSH + PASS RECEIVING YARDS BY LARRY CENTERS 492 OVER 9½ -115 |
01-31-2004, 06:37 PM | #25 | ||
lolzcat
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01-31-2004, 06:38 PM | #26 |
General Manager
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fixed my bets
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01-31-2004, 07:35 PM | #27 | |
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Thanks QS. I'll think of something else.
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01-31-2004, 07:40 PM | #28 |
FOFC Survivor
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500 on
WHO WILL SCORE MORE POINTS PANTHERS (+6 1/2) -115 250 on NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN 308 NO NA NA -1000 250 on NFL Props WILL THE GAME GO INTO OVERTIME 312 NO NA NA -900 I hope this makes sense.
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01-31-2004, 08:35 PM | #29 |
Pro Starter
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500 on:
NFL Props WILL ANY PANTHERS PLAYER SCORE 2 OR MORE TOUCHDOWNS 396 YES NA NA +260 250 on: NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN 1ST 7MIN 30SEC OF 1ST QTR 374 NO NA NA -105 250 on: NFL Props TOTAL NET RUSHING YARDS MADE BY ANTOWAIN SMITH 390 OVER 80½ NA NA +135 Last edited by tucker342 : 01-31-2004 at 08:36 PM. |
01-31-2004, 09:02 PM | #30 |
Hall Of Famer
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Location: New Jersey
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I'll bet 700 on a 7 selection parlay
WHO WILL SCORE MORE POINTS Patriots (-6 1/2) -115 NFL Props MOST PASS RECEPTIONS MADE BY 510 MUSHIN MUHAMMAD +1 (-130) NA NA NFL Props TOTAL QUARTERBACK SACKS MADE IN GAME BY BOTH TEAMS 337 OVER NA OV 4½ (-105) NA NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN LAST 3MIN 30SEC OF GAME 328 NO NA NA -115 NFL Props TEAM TO PUNT FIRST 345 PANTHERS NA NA -125 NFL Props WILL EITHER TEAM SCORE 3 TIMES UNANSWERED 222 NO NA NA +145 NFL Props WILL THERE BE A SCORE IN 1ST 7MIN 30SEC OF 1ST QTR 373 YES NA NA -125 I'll bet 150 on 803 ANTOWAIN SMITH NA NA +650 I'll bet 150 on NFL Props T BRADY 1ST PASS WILL BE 243 INCOMPLETE/INT NA NA +160 |
02-01-2004, 09:40 PM | #31 | |
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200 on Panthers + 6 1/2 (I think they will lose but cover) (-115) Win +373 Total = 373 200 on Under 38 1/2 (-115) Loss 150 on 511 Most Pass Receptoins - David Givens -1 (+100) Muhamed:4 Givens:5 - push +100 Total = 523 150 on 500 Deon Branch Over 3.5 rec (+100) Win +300 Total = 823 150 on 440 0 Carolina TD Passes (+150) Loss Total = 823 150 on 301 2pt conversion attempt (+150) Win +325 Total = 1158 100 (Parley) on
100 on 901 Tom Brady MVP (+175) Win +275 Total = 1793 [Edit - corrected math now that I have a lower BAC] Last edited by Fido : 02-02-2004 at 07:55 AM. |
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02-01-2004, 09:42 PM | #32 | |
lolzcat
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I believe that I hit on my parlay for $3,500 and on Brady MVP for $550... bringing in $4,050 for the $1,000 stake. I can't believe that Larry Centers let me down, though. *sigh* |
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02-02-2004, 07:47 AM | #33 | ||
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02-02-2004, 10:16 AM | #34 |
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+250 on wins, -800 on losses. Meh, this is why I don't bet real money.
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02-02-2004, 10:22 AM | #35 | |
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How did I do? I don't know how betting and payoffs work.
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02-02-2004, 10:23 AM | #36 | |
lolzcat
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Brutal. I saw Sauerbrun's 51-yarder... missed the other. I'm devastated. |
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02-02-2004, 10:27 AM | #37 | |
lolzcat
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Your point spread bet paid off $500+$434=$934. (-115 means you have to bet $115 to win $100) $250 on no missed XP pays $250 + $25 = $275. $250 on no overtime pays $250 + $28 = $278. You bring back $1,487 for your $1,000 wagered (rounded to the dollar). |
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02-02-2004, 10:31 AM | #38 | |
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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast 500 on WHO WILL SCORE MORE POINTS PANTHERS (+6 1/2) -115 +934 = 934 250 on NFL Props WILL THERE BE A MISSED EXTRA POINT AFTER TOUCHDOWN 308 NO NA NA -1000 +275 = 1209 250 on NFL Props WILL THE GAME GO INTO OVERTIME 312 NO NA NA -900 +278 = 1487 |
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02-02-2004, 10:33 AM | #39 |
FOFC Survivor
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I rule. Thanks guys.
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