KERRY! FUCKING! WOOD!

SackAttack · 10-15-2003, 08:07 PM

Okay, that's a horrible thread title, I know, but holy SHIT what an at-bat. That might have saved Chicago's season.

Vince · 10-15-2003, 08:08 PM

I agree.

Ksyrup · 10-15-2003, 08:26 PM

All I can say is, if the Cubs make it, the Sox better make it. I want both, or I want neither of them. Either bring on the end of the world in the next week, or leave everything the way it should be.

INDalltheway · 10-15-2003, 08:29 PM

What a amazing at bat for Wood. It was great that Lieter said just before the hit, "Even if Wood doesn't get a hit, atleast he is raising Redman's pitchcount."

2 seconds later. Gone!

Buccaneer · 10-15-2003, 08:36 PM

A Cubs win will make me very sad. No way I want to see Sosa in the WS.

IMetTrentGreen · 10-15-2003, 08:40 PM

yeah. i hate nice guys who try hard, too

Vince · 10-15-2003, 08:49 PM

I'll give the obligatory "Nice guys who use cork?" argument.

SackAttack · 10-15-2003, 08:54 PM

Not a *great* thread title, but at least it's all-purpose.

Vince · 10-15-2003, 08:55 PM

True...true

Edit: Damn does Wood look inconsistent tonight. What's going on?

SackAttack · 10-15-2003, 08:57 PM

No clue, but I think that has to be it for Wood. 5 IP, 6 runs allowed...get Clement in there for an inning or two, and pray the offense can reach Beckett for a couple.

cincyreds · 10-15-2003, 08:59 PM

Such language...is it really called for?

Vince · 10-15-2003, 09:00 PM

If you were watching the game, then I'm thinking you would know the answer to that question (it's yes, by the way).

SackAttack · 10-15-2003, 09:10 PM

In more ways than one, no less.

TroyF · 10-15-2003, 09:16 PM

I just don't understand the anti-Sosa sentiment Buc. He helped your boy Mac get that HR record a few years ago. Without Sosa pushing him and helping take the media pressure off him, Mac never gets the record. (he was already showing signs of fatigue from the media in MAY!!!)

Sosa deserves to get there every bit as much as any of the other guys in this series. Corking incident aside, he's been terrific for the game of baseball. It's sad that many people cannot see that.

TroyF

GrantDawg · 10-15-2003, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
All I can say is, if the Cubs make it, the Sox better make it. I want both, or I want neither of them. Either bring on the end of the world in the next week, or leave everything the way it should be.

With ya. Or more along the lines of "give me a reason to watch the world series (Sox vs. Cubs) or no reason at all (Yankees vs. Marlins)." I'm betting Fox is praying for the former match-up pretty hard.

Buccaneer · 10-15-2003, 09:20 PM

Troy, some people love certain players while others hate certain players - in all sports. Just like with teams. It comes with the territory.

Celeval · 10-15-2003, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by TroyF
Sosa deserves to get there every bit as much as any of the other guys in this series. Corking incident aside, he's been terrific for the game of baseball. It's sad that many people cannot see that.

Sad? Nah. I respect Sosa, he's done a lot for the game. If this was last season, I'd be pulling hard for the Cubs. I just can't bring myself to root for a player during a season he was caught corking.

Kevin

Ksyrup · 10-15-2003, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by GrantDawg
With ya. Or more along the lines of "give me a reason to watch the world series (Sox vs. Cubs) or no reason at all (Yankees vs. Marlins)." I'm betting Fox is praying for the former match-up pretty hard.

It's all good to me - it's the World Series. I just think that if they both have a chance, it's only fitting that they play each other for the true title of ultimate loser. It would be like the Super Bowl and Toilet Bowl, rolled into one!

TroyF · 10-15-2003, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by Buccaneer
Troy, some people love certain players while others hate certain players - in all sports. Just like with teams. It comes with the territory.

Maybe so, but to cheer against a specific player, especially one who would get his first chance at a ring, I think there has to be deep hatred.

In your case, I really don't understand why. I know you like Junior Seau. Tell me the difference between Sammy and Junior? Both love the game. Both are intense beyond belief. Both of them have the flaw of being too aggressive. Both of them are considered good guys by MOST media outlets, with each having a couple of flare ups over their careers.

I can think of about 40 players off the top of my head that I would rather not see in a World Series than Sammy Sosa. It really wouldn't sadden me to see any of them there. To be honest, I'd be more sad to see Dusty Baker there than I would Sammy.

TroyF

Ksyrup · 10-15-2003, 09:33 PM

I think I'd rather see Sosa win the WS than Luria raising the trophy - even though I'd probably be rooting for the Marlins if they made it.

Buccaneer · 10-15-2003, 09:34 PM

Troy, I love you to the death, but man, you can't be objective and analytical ALL of the time?

Buccaneer · 10-15-2003, 09:36 PM

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In your case, I really don't understand why. I know you like Junior Seau. Tell me the difference between Sammy and Junior? Both love the game. Both are intense beyond belief. Both of them have the flaw of being too aggressive. Both of them are considered good guys by MOST media outlets, with each having a couple of flare ups over their careers.

And both juiced as well?

Aesyrqwe · 10-15-2003, 09:45 PM

Woohoo! 9-5 TAKE THAT CUBS FANS!!! TAKE THAT!!!

GO CHI SOX!!!

Marlins ova Bo Sox, Pudge FOR MVP!!!!

-Aes-

TroyF · 10-15-2003, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by Buccaneer
And both juiced as well?

You have no proof Sosa is juiced. We do have proof your boy McGwire was juiced. He kept the andro right in his locker. The anecdotal evidence, such as someone being juiced suffering more injuries also favors Sosa, who has been amazingly healthy throughout his career.

TroyF

bigjdotcom01 · 10-15-2003, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Buccaneer
A Cubs win will make me very sad. No way I want to see Sosa in the WS.

Why not?!

Buccaneer · 10-15-2003, 10:45 PM

Sorry to the Cubs fan.

TroyF · 10-15-2003, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Buccaneer
Sorry to the Cubs fan.

He'll live.

There are really only two things that sadden me about this:

1) I hate the Marlins owner.

2) My Grandfather is a Cubs fan. I doubt he makes it to next year (if they'd even win next year anyway) I wish he'd gotten to see his team play in the series. Not to worry, he's just a fan, it won't be the defining moment in his life like it seems to be for some people.

TroyF

MizzouRah · 10-15-2003, 11:18 PM

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You have no proof Sosa is juiced. We do have proof your boy McGwire was juiced. He kept the andro right in his locker. The anecdotal evidence, such as someone being juiced suffering more injuries also favors Sosa, who has been amazingly healthy throughout his career.

TroyF

Just the fact Sosa was caught cheating, changed my feelings on Sosa as a baseball player.... and that's too bad.

It was a great series and I'm still amazed the Marlins pulled it off.

Todd

MrBug708 · 10-15-2003, 11:55 PM

I'm guessing you arent found of Wilton Guerrero either Buc?

Killebrew · 10-16-2003, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by TroyF
1) I hate the Marlins owner.

Yeah, seriously - besides that fact I really have no feelings about Florida at all.

Samdari · 10-16-2003, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by Buccaneer
I love you to the death

That's how I want to go, but if its all the same to you Buc, it won't be with you.

KWhit · 10-16-2003, 07:59 AM

All the Sosa apologists confuse me. The guy was caught CHEATING! How can you overlook that?

Buccaneer · 10-16-2003, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by bigjdotcom01
Why not?!

For the same reason some folks never wanted to see Elway in the SB or glad that Marino never made it.

I truly do feel for the Cubs fans despite my bias.

MrBug: I'm not fond of most players, past or present. Except for a handful (TGwynn, Bench, Mays, Morgan), idolizing players or even rooting for them was never my thing.

Ksyrup · 10-16-2003, 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by KWhit
All the Sosa apologists confuse me. The guy was caught CHEATING! How can you overlook that?

FOFC'ers dig the long ball.

cuervo72 · 10-16-2003, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by Buccaneer
For the same reason some folks never wanted to see Elway in the SB or glad that Marino never made it.

Super Bowl XIX?

10-15-2003, 08:08 PM	#2
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	I agree. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

10-15-2003, 08:26 PM	#3
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	All I can say is, if the Cubs make it, the Sox better make it. I want both, or I want neither of them. Either bring on the end of the world in the next week, or leave everything the way it should be. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-15-2003, 08:49 PM	#7
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	I'll give the obligatory "Nice guys who use cork?" argument. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

10-15-2003, 08:55 PM	#9
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	True...true Edit: Damn does Wood look inconsistent tonight. What's going on? __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com. Last edited by Vince : 10-15-2003 at 08:56 PM.

10-15-2003, 08:59 PM	#11
cincyreds High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mississippi	Such language...is it really called for? __________________ The Dallas Cowboys!! America's Team will rise again.

10-15-2003, 08:29 PM	#4
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	What a amazing at bat for Wood. It was great that Lieter said just before the hit, "Even if Wood doesn't get a hit, atleast he is raising Redman's pitchcount." 2 seconds later. Gone!

10-15-2003, 08:36 PM	#5
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	A Cubs win will make me very sad. No way I want to see Sosa in the WS.

10-15-2003, 08:40 PM	#6
IMetTrentGreen College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Austin, Texas	yeah. i hate nice guys who try hard, too

10-15-2003, 08:54 PM	#8
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Not a great thread title, but at least it's all-purpose.

10-15-2003, 08:57 PM	#10
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	No clue, but I think that has to be it for Wood. 5 IP, 6 runs allowed...get Clement in there for an inning or two, and pray the offense can reach Beckett for a couple.

10-15-2003, 09:00 PM	#12
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	If you were watching the game, then I'm thinking you would know the answer to that question (it's yes, by the way). __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

10-15-2003, 09:10 PM	#13
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	In more ways than one, no less.

10-15-2003, 09:16 PM	#14
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I just don't understand the anti-Sosa sentiment Buc. He helped your boy Mac get that HR record a few years ago. Without Sosa pushing him and helping take the media pressure off him, Mac never gets the record. (he was already showing signs of fatigue from the media in MAY!!!) Sosa deserves to get there every bit as much as any of the other guys in this series. Corking incident aside, he's been terrific for the game of baseball. It's sad that many people cannot see that. TroyF

10-15-2003, 09:20 PM	#16
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Troy, some people love certain players while others hate certain players - in all sports. Just like with teams. It comes with the territory.

10-15-2003, 09:33 PM	#20
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I think I'd rather see Sosa win the WS than Luria raising the trophy - even though I'd probably be rooting for the Marlins if they made it. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-15-2003, 09:34 PM	#21
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Troy, I love you to the death, but man, you can't be objective and analytical ALL of the time?

10-15-2003, 09:45 PM	#23
Aesyrqwe High School JV Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Indiana	Woohoo! 9-5 TAKE THAT CUBS FANS!!! TAKE THAT!!! GO CHI SOX!!! Marlins ova Bo Sox, Pudge FOR MVP!!!! -Aes- __________________ Go Bears! #8 Grossman #33 Tillman

10-15-2003, 10:45 PM	#26
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Sorry to the Cubs fan.

10-15-2003, 11:55 PM	#29
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I'm guessing you arent found of Wilton Guerrero either Buc?

10-16-2003, 07:59 AM	#32
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	All the Sosa apologists confuse me. The guy was caught CHEATING! How can you overlook that?

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