07-06-2003, 12:26 PM | #1 | ||
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FOFC Winston Cup Season #8
Daytona, FL - Once again 42 teams have gathered in Daytona, Florida for the beginning of another FOFC Winston Cup Season. Past champions Telle Snow, Nick Phillips and Chris Snow are all here looking to add to their trophy case. Last season's rookie of the year Mustafa Henderson who was the circuit's hottest driver at the end of the season is back and is a top contender for the championship. Of course, along with Chris and Telle, Ren Snow is a contender to the title and as is Snow Motorsports teammate Kai Collins.
Travis Elkin in the #19 car cannot be counted out either. Three wins last season shows that he is one of the top drivers around. Teammates Taco Money and Mr. Buttercup Jr. always run well. Billy Rudd had an impressive top ten finish last season but can he repeat last season's success? Rewbie Newsday had an off year with his 13th place finish but should be back contending for the top spot this season. He's added a teammate in #48 Rewbie Bluesday. Bobby Mask had a solid season last year and adds a teammate this season in his younger brother Andre in the #5 Cingular Wireless car. Rob Zalez had an impressive rookie campaign that included 1 win, 6 top 5's and 9 top 10's. But 4 DNF's ruined his chances at a top five finish. John Condor ran well in his rookie season and quietly took home a 14th place finish in the standings. Many other long-time veterans of the series are back once again also. This season's rookie class is strong once again. Rewbie Bluesday in the #48 Lowe's car. Andre Mask in the #5 Cingular Wireless car. Parris Duffus in the #21 Dr. Pepper car. Antoine Jerome Evander Marriucci in the #46 car, Rob Nielsen in the #75 car and Sloppy Joe in the #87 car. *The Daytona 500 has been moved up one day to this afternoon. Look for results from the Great American Race later today* |
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07-06-2003, 01:30 PM | #2 |
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Vegas Championship Odds
Vegas picks Henderson to win Season 8 Title.
20 Mustafa Henderson 5:1 79 Telle Snow 6:1 51 Nick Phillips 6:1 40 Chris Snow 8:1 19 Travis Elkin 8:1 12 Rewbie Newsday 9:1 17 Ren Snow 9:1 18 Kai Collins 10:1 95 Rob Zalez 10:1 34 Sterling Silvers 12:1 10 Taco Money 12:1 9 Mr. Buttercup Jr. 17:1 27 Billy Rudd 22:1 30 John Condor 23:1 3 Shane Kormelink 24:1 62 Bobby Mask 25:1 39 Aaron Hogg 28:1 8 Kevin Anderson 30:1 22 Jeeber D Mack 32:1 13 Kodos N. Kang 34:1 69 Al Kaholic 36:1 7 It's Craptacular 38:1 96 Sonny Daze 44:1 99 Jobu Mack 55:1 29 Jay Klayman 67:1 77 He's Crapnificent 70:1 25 Ray Zerback 78:1 5 Andre Mask 80:1 48 Rewbie Bluesday 80:1 2 Daniel Ertmann 82:1 75 Rob Nielsen 82:1 80 Eilim Cu'Firinne 85:1 4 Kool Breeze 86:1 87 Sloppy Joe 86:1 58 Thomas Hudson 88:1 32 Hacker Vance 88:1 70 Badstreet Fields 88:1 21 Parris Duffus 90:1 28 Fireball Kobeck 97:1 24 I.B. Long 98:1 46 Antoine Jerome Evander Marriucci 98:1 44 Mike Tokunaga 100:1 |
07-06-2003, 02:00 PM | #3 |
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I'll put $100 on Tokunaga to finish in the top 10 please.
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07-06-2003, 04:41 PM | #4 |
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Daytona Practice Speeds
P # DRIVER TIME
1 77 H Crapnificent 188.092 mph 2 12 R Newsday 188.041 mph 3 9 M Buttercup Jr. 187.625 mph 4 44 M Tokunaga 187.578 mph 5 7 I Craptacular 186.866 mph 6 27 B Rudd 186.804 mph 7 70 B Fields 186.788 mph 8 39 A Hogg 186.726 mph 9 3 S Kormelink 186.567 mph 10 69 A Kaholic 186.556 mph 11 22 J Mack 186.394 mph 12 18 K Collins 186.382 mph 13 5 A Mask 186.232 mph 14 46 A Marriucci 186.197 mph 15 87 S Joe 186.178 mph 16 95 R Zalez 186.070 mph 17 21 P Duffus 185.993 mph 18 51 N Phillips 185.978 mph 19 30 J Condor 185.951 mph 20 79 T Snow 185.878 mph 21 62 B Mask 185.766 mph 22 29 J Klayman 185.678 mph 23 58 T Hudson 185.621 mph 24 48 R Bluesday 185.594 mph 25 13 K Kang 185.395 mph 26 99 J Mack 185.384 mph 27 4 K Breeze 185.132 mph 28 25 R Zerback 184.991 mph 29 75 R Nielsen 184.934 mph 30 19 T Elkin 184.904 mph 31 28 F Kobeck 184.885 mph 32 32 H Vance 184.858 mph 33 2 D Ertmann 184.851 mph 34 96 S Daze 184.813 mph 35 17 R Snow 184.737 mph 36 8 K Anderson 184.725 mph 37 24 I Long 184.657 mph 38 34 S Silvers 184.494 mph 39 20 M Henderson 184.434 mph 40 80 E Cu'Firinne 184.260 mph 41 40 C Snow 184.008 mph 42 10 T Money 183.805 mph |
07-06-2003, 04:42 PM | #5 |
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Daytona Final Practice Speeds
P # DRIVER TIME
1 58 T Hudson 186.536 mph 2 8 K Anderson 186.536 mph 3 27 B Rudd 186.509 mph 4 7 I Craptacular 186.467 mph 5 62 B Mask 186.235 mph 6 51 N Phillips 185.763 mph 7 79 T Snow 185.728 mph 8 44 M Tokunaga 185.717 mph 9 9 M Buttercup Jr. 185.694 mph 10 3 S Kormelink 185.671 mph 11 25 R Zerback 185.613 mph 12 12 R Newsday 185.464 mph 13 34 S Silvers 185.285 mph 14 21 P Duffus 185.220 mph 15 10 T Money 185.045 mph 16 18 K Collins 184.635 mph 17 70 B Fields 184.551 mph 18 69 A Kaholic 184.506 mph 19 30 J Condor 184.426 mph 20 32 H Vance 184.343 mph 21 77 H Crapnificent 184.332 mph 22 4 K Breeze 184.313 mph 23 95 R Zalez 184.306 mph 24 2 D Ertmann 184.306 mph 25 48 R Bluesday 184.294 mph 26 87 S Joe 184.189 mph 27 99 J Mack 184.102 mph 28 29 J Klayman 184.102 mph 29 5 A Mask 184.076 mph 30 17 R Snow 184.068 mph 31 19 T Elkin 183.812 mph 32 24 I Long 183.666 mph 33 20 M Henderson 183.632 mph 34 96 S Daze 183.595 mph 35 13 K Kang 183.595 mph 36 75 R Nielsen 181.818 mph 37 28 F Kobeck 181.233 mph 38 46 A Marriucci 181.014 mph 39 40 C Snow 180.883 mph 40 22 J Mack 179.641 mph 41 80 E Cu'Firinne 179.612 mph 42 39 A Hogg 176.613 mph |
07-06-2003, 04:46 PM | #6 |
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Daytona 500 Results
Another terrific race from Daytona. 148 lead changes kept the action going all day. Only 1 caution flew so green flag pit-stops spread out the field. Ray Zerback held the lead heading into the final lap. But Al Kaholic, Bobby Mask, Nick Phillips, Eilim Cu'Firinne, and Mr. Buttercup Jr all were close behind. Bobby Mask made a move down the backstretch to overtake Zerback. But it looked like Phillips would be able to push Mask up the track in turn 4. But Mask shut the door on Phillips and came across the line .09 seconds ahead to win the Daytona 500.
Daytona 500 at DAYTONA INTERNATIONAL SPEEDWAY® Caution Flags: 1 (4 laps) Lead Changes: 148 (29 drivers) Weather: Clear, 92 °F, North 13 mph FINISH START # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED PTS QUAL STATUS 1 28 62 B Mask 175.541 200 7 180 49.524 Running 2 12 51 N Phillips -0.09 200 6 175 49.378 Running 3 13 69 A Kaholic -0.20 200 30* 175 49.381 Running 4 4 25 R Zerback -0.24 200 12 165 49.235 Running 5 17 80 E Cu'Firinne -0.28 200 7 160 49.416 Running 6 27 9 M Buttercup Jr. -0.37 200 4 155 49.522 Running 7 29 40 C Snow -6.97 200 6 151 49.537 Running 8 2 27 B Rudd -7.04 200 7 147 49.188 Running 9 7 3 S Kormelink -7.15 200 13 143 49.289 Running 10 32 22 J Mack -7.26 200 1 139 49.557 Running 11 36 48 R Bluesday -7.30 200 15 135 49.600 Running 12 11 75 R Nielsen -7.36 200 10 132 49.363 Running 13 5 96 S Daze -7.61 200 1 129 49.239 Running 14 35 58 T Hudson -7.70 200 3 126 49.598 Running 15 6 29 J Klayman -8.19 200 1 123 49.253 Running 16 21 2 D Ertmann -8.65 200 0 115 49.447 Running 17 24 12 R Newsday -8.80 200 7 117 49.490 Running 18 30 10 T Money -9.13 200 10 114 49.542 Running 19 39 5 A Mask -9.21 200 9 111 49.670 Running 20 23 77 H Crapnificent -9.46 200 0 103 49.487 Running 21 42 95 R Zalez -9.56 200 3 105 49.834 Running 22 26 20 M Henderson -9.70 200 15 102 49.513 Running 23 34 8 K Anderson -9.82 200 11 99 49.593 Running 24 37 99 J Mack -9.95 200 0 91 49.612 Running 25 33 32 H Vance -10.18 200 1 93 49.576 Running 26 20 28 F Kobeck -10.58 200 1 90 49.434 Running 27 38 44 M Tokunaga -10.78 200 0 82 49.643 Running 28 16 19 T Elkin -18.56 200 0 79 49.399 Running 29 15 4 K Breeze -18.56 200 1 81 49.397 Running 30 9 39 A Hogg -18.66 200 1 78 49.339 Running 31 31 79 T Snow -18.74 200 1 75 49.543 Running 32 22 18 K Collins -46.36 200 6 72 49.459 Running 33 1 34 S Silvers -1L 199 10 69 49.154 Running 34 18 87 S Joe -1L 199 0 61 49.420 Running 35 25 21 P Duffus -1L 199 0 58 49.512 Running 36 14 17 R Snow -1L 199 0 55 49.389 Running 37 3 7 I Craptacular -1L 199 1 57 49.197 Running 38 19 30 J Condor -1L 199 0 49 49.433 Running 39 41 24 I Long -1L 199 0 46 49.814 Running 40 8 46 A Marriucci -1L 199 0 43 49.312 Running 41 40 70 B Fields -1L 199 0 40 49.716 Running 42 10 13 K Kang -2L 198 0 37 49.356 Running Last edited by cmp : 07-06-2003 at 04:47 PM. |
07-06-2003, 04:46 PM | #7 |
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Standings
AFTER 1 OF 25 EVENTS
TOTAL LAPS: 200 P # DRIVER PTS NEXT LDR S P WINS T5 T10 DNF LC % LL % RL % 1 62 B Mask 180 -- -- 1 0 1 1 1 0 200 100 7 3 1 100 2 51 N Phillips 175 5 5 1 0 0 1 1 0 200 100 6 3 1 100 3 69 A Kaholic 175 -- 5 1 0 0 1 1 0 200 100 30 15 1 100 4 25 R Zerback 165 10 15 1 0 0 1 1 0 200 100 12 6 1 100 5 80 E Cu'Firinne 160 5 20 1 0 0 1 1 0 200 100 7 3 1 100 6 9 M Buttercup Jr. 155 5 25 1 0 0 0 1 0 200 100 4 2 1 100 7 40 C Snow 151 4 29 1 0 0 0 1 0 200 100 6 3 1 100 8 27 B Rudd 147 4 33 1 0 0 0 1 0 200 100 7 3 1 100 9 3 S Kormelink 143 4 37 1 0 0 0 1 0 200 100 13 6 1 100 10 22 J Mack 139 4 41 1 0 0 0 1 0 200 100 1 0 1 100 11 48 R Bluesday 135 4 45 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 15 7 1 100 12 75 R Nielsen 132 3 48 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 10 5 1 100 13 96 S Daze 129 3 51 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 1 0 1 100 14 58 T Hudson 126 3 54 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 3 1 1 100 15 29 J Klayman 123 3 57 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 1 0 1 100 16 12 R Newsday 117 6 63 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 7 3 1 100 17 2 D Ertmann 115 2 65 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 0 0 0 0 18 10 T Money 114 1 66 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 10 5 1 100 19 5 A Mask 111 3 69 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 9 4 1 100 20 95 R Zalez 105 6 75 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 3 1 1 100 21 77 H Crapnificent 103 2 77 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 0 0 0 0 22 20 M Henderson 102 1 78 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 15 7 1 100 23 8 K Anderson 99 3 81 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 11 5 1 100 24 32 H Vance 93 6 87 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 1 0 1 100 25 99 J Mack 91 2 89 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 0 0 0 0 26 28 F Kobeck 90 1 90 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 1 0 1 100 27 44 M Tokunaga 82 8 98 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 0 0 0 0 28 4 K Breeze 81 1 99 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 1 0 1 100 29 19 T Elkin 79 2 101 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 0 0 0 0 30 39 A Hogg 78 1 102 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 1 0 1 100 31 79 T Snow 75 3 105 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 1 0 1 100 32 18 K Collins 72 3 108 1 0 0 0 0 0 200 100 6 3 1 100 33 34 S Silvers 69 3 111 1 1 0 0 0 0 199 99 10 5 1 100 34 87 S Joe 61 8 119 1 0 0 0 0 0 199 99 0 0 0 0 35 21 P Duffus 58 3 122 1 0 0 0 0 0 199 99 0 0 0 0 36 7 I Craptacular 57 1 123 1 0 0 0 0 0 199 99 1 0 1 100 37 17 R Snow 55 2 125 1 0 0 0 0 0 199 99 0 0 0 0 38 30 J Condor 49 6 131 1 0 0 0 0 0 199 99 0 0 0 0 39 24 I Long 46 3 134 1 0 0 0 0 0 199 99 0 0 0 0 40 46 A Marriucci 43 3 137 1 0 0 0 0 0 199 99 0 0 0 0 41 70 B Fields 40 3 140 1 0 0 0 0 0 199 99 0 0 0 0 42 13 K Kang 37 3 143 1 0 0 0 0 0 198 99 0 0 0 0 |
07-06-2003, 05:39 PM | #8 |
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12th place finish in my rookie debut? Not bad.
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07-06-2003, 06:04 PM | #9 |
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I'll take a top ten finish every week, if you don't mind...
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07-06-2003, 06:06 PM | #10 |
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A big win for me today. But don't expect it to last. The last two Daytona 500 winners finished 38th and 34th in the points. I'm in great company!
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07-06-2003, 06:16 PM | #11 |
Coordinator
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Wow, a top 10 for Chris Snow?? I'd almost forgotten what it was like to talk to reporters after the event!
rough start for the other SMI cars, but we'll be there at seasons end! |
07-06-2003, 07:08 PM | #12 |
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Daytona 500 Pictures
Sterling Silvers leads on the first lap
#75 Nielsen leads Sonny Daze and Silvers Anderson, Kang, Henderson, Kaholic, Money and Neilsen battle Andre Mask leads Zerback, Sloppy Joe, Kaholic, Eilim, Newsday, B. Mask and Buttercup Jr. Bobby Mask takes the checkered Last edited by cmp : 07-06-2003 at 07:08 PM. |
07-07-2003, 12:06 AM | #13 |
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Next Race
The Bass Pro Shops 500 from Atlanta will be run tomorrow.
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07-07-2003, 01:42 AM | #14 | |
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Re: Daytona 500 Pictures
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It couldn't have been the last lap, could it... *sigh* SI
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07-07-2003, 08:56 AM | #15 |
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88-1 odds for Badstreet Fields may be a bit generous. 88888-1 is probably more realistic.
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07-07-2003, 09:53 AM | #16 |
College Prospect
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Quick question...did my stat changes make it in before the season?
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07-07-2003, 09:57 AM | #17 | |
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Yep. They were changed. You'll be able to tell how there working starting at Atlanta. Daytona doesn't show much about the stats. |
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07-07-2003, 10:52 AM | #18 |
Coordinator
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Yes, this is one thing to always keep in mind.
Super Speedways like Dayton and Talledega have very little to do with your stats. The way the drafting and AI run at those tracks its almost a crap shoot to manage to win or even run well there. Speedways and short tracks are the real telling places to see how well you're stats work. They use a lot more of the individual sts to regulate how your car is running. |
07-07-2003, 11:59 AM | #19 |
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Atlanta Practice Speeds
P # DRIVER TIME
1 12 R Newsday 186.931 mph 2 9 M Buttercup Jr. 186.931 mph 3 40 C Snow 186.824 mph 4 95 R Zalez 186.723 mph 5 19 T Elkin 186.623 mph 6 51 N Phillips 186.422 mph 7 20 M Henderson 186.422 mph 8 30 J Condor 186.403 mph 9 10 T Money 186.341 mph 10 44 M Tokunaga 186.309 mph |
07-07-2003, 11:59 AM | #20 |
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Atlanta Final Practice Speeds
P # DRIVER TIME
1 40 C Snow 186.623 mph 2 44 M Tokunaga 186.391 mph 3 34 S Silvers 186.341 mph 4 79 T Snow 186.297 mph 5 17 R Snow 186.291 mph 6 62 B Mask 186.234 mph 7 12 R Newsday 186.228 mph 8 20 M Henderson 186.172 mph 9 8 K Anderson 186.128 mph 10 95 R Zalez 186.090 mph |
07-07-2003, 12:02 PM | #21 |
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Bass Pro Shops 500 Results
For the past two seasons, Telle Snow dominated Atlanta Motor Speedway. But both times fell just short at the end. This time, it was Telle's day. With only 8 laps remaining, Telle made a daring pass on Mustafa Henderson to take the lead. She never looked back and held on for the win. Telle led 159 laps, Henderson led 153. Three other drivers led a total of 13 laps in the race.
Bass Pro Shops 500 at ATLANTA MOTOR SPEEDWAY Caution Flags: 1 (4 laps) Lead Changes: 13 (5 drivers) Weather: Clear, 59 °F, Southeast 4 mph FINISH START # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED PTS QUAL STATUS 1 2 79 T Snow 174.620 325 159* 185 29.364 Running 2 1 20 M Henderson -0.25 325 153 175 29.346 Running 3 15 19 T Elkin -5.17 325 0 165 29.468 Running 4 7 22 J Mack -5.78 325 3 165 29.399 Running 5 3 12 R Newsday -5.94 325 0 155 29.365 Running 6 8 17 R Snow -6.50 325 9 155 29.403 Running 7 17 99 J Mack -7.32 325 0 146 29.472 Running 8 12 51 N Phillips -8.19 325 0 142 29.454 Running 9 13 62 B Mask -8.40 325 0 138 29.460 Running 10 6 40 C Snow -8.51 325 1 139 29.389 Running 11 9 9 M Buttercup Jr. -8.60 325 0 130 29.431 Running 12 10 95 R Zalez -8.70 325 0 127 29.451 Running 13 11 34 S Silvers -8.80 325 0 124 29.453 Running 14 5 13 K Kang -9.00 325 0 121 29.373 Running 15 14 44 M Tokunaga -9.10 325 0 118 29.460 Running 16 32 70 B Fields -9.22 325 0 115 29.555 Running 17 18 29 J Klayman -31.47 325 0 112 29.474 Running 18 37 2 D Ertmann -1L 324 0 109 29.611 Running 19 33 21 P Duffus -1L 324 0 106 29.559 Running 20 20 30 J Condor -1L 324 0 103 29.493 Running 21 31 27 B Rudd -1L 324 0 100 29.555 Running 22 25 3 S Kormelink -1L 324 0 97 29.521 Running 23 23 96 S Daze -1L 324 0 94 29.502 Running 24 34 46 A Marriucci -1L 324 0 91 29.569 Running 25 16 5 A Mask -1L 324 0 88 29.471 Running 26 21 10 T Money -1L 324 0 85 29.494 Running 27 39 80 E Cu'Firinne -1L 324 0 82 29.613 Running 28 24 7 I Craptacular -2L 323 0 79 29.515 Running 29 22 4 K Breeze -2L 323 0 76 29.497 Running 30 28 32 H Vance -2L 323 0 73 29.543 Running 31 36 39 A Hogg -2L 323 0 70 29.598 Running 32 27 69 A Kaholic -2L 323 0 67 29.538 Running 33 29 25 R Zerback -2L 323 0 64 29.549 Running 34 41 87 S Joe -2L 323 0 61 29.638 Running 35 38 58 T Hudson -3L 322 0 58 29.613 Running 36 42 24 I Long -3L 322 0 55 29.666 Running 37 26 48 R Bluesday -3L 322 0 52 29.535 Running 38 30 75 R Nielsen -3L 322 0 49 29.553 Running 39 35 77 H Crapnificent -3L 322 0 46 29.583 Running 40 40 28 F Kobeck -7L 318 0 43 29.620 Running 41 19 8 K Anderson -49L 276 0 40 29.488 Piston 42 4 18 K Collins -255L 70 0 37 29.369 Clutch |
07-07-2003, 12:05 PM | #22 |
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Standings
After two races Bobby Mask leads Nick Phillips by 1 point. Jeeber D Mack is 3rd, followed by Chris Snow and Mr. Buttercup Jr.
AFTER 2 OF 25 EVENTS TOTAL LAPS: 525 P # DRIVER PTS NEXT LDR S P WINS T5 T10 DNF LC % LL % RL % 1 62 B Mask 318 -- -- 2 0 1 1 2 0 525 100 7 1 1 50 2 51 N Phillips 317 1 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 525 100 6 1 1 50 3 22 J Mack 304 13 14 2 0 0 1 2 0 525 100 4 0 2 100 4 40 C Snow 290 14 28 2 0 0 0 2 0 525 100 7 1 2 100 5 9 M Buttercup Jr. 285 5 33 2 0 0 0 1 0 525 100 4 0 1 50 6 20 M Henderson 277 8 41 2 1 0 1 1 0 525 100 168 32 2 100 7 12 R Newsday 272 5 46 2 0 0 1 1 0 525 100 7 1 1 50 8 79 T Snow 260 12 58 2 0 1 1 1 0 525 100 160 30 2 100 9 27 B Rudd 247 13 71 2 0 0 0 1 0 524 99 7 1 1 50 10 19 T Elkin 244 3 74 2 0 0 1 1 0 525 100 0 0 0 0 11 69 A Kaholic 242 2 76 2 0 0 1 1 0 523 99 30 5 1 50 12 80 E Cu'Firinne 242 -- 76 2 0 0 1 1 0 524 99 7 1 1 50 13 3 S Kormelink 240 2 78 2 0 0 0 1 0 524 99 13 2 1 50 14 99 J Mack 237 3 81 2 0 0 0 1 0 525 100 0 0 0 0 15 29 J Klayman 235 2 83 2 0 0 0 0 0 525 100 1 0 1 50 16 95 R Zalez 232 3 86 2 0 0 0 0 0 525 100 3 0 1 50 17 25 R Zerback 229 3 89 2 0 0 1 1 0 523 99 12 2 1 50 18 2 D Ertmann 224 5 94 2 0 0 0 0 0 524 99 0 0 0 0 19 96 S Daze 223 1 95 2 0 0 0 0 0 524 99 1 0 1 50 20 17 R Snow 210 13 108 2 0 0 0 1 0 524 99 9 1 1 50 21 44 M Tokunaga 200 10 118 2 0 0 0 0 0 525 100 0 0 0 0 22 10 T Money 199 1 119 2 0 0 0 0 0 524 99 10 1 1 50 23 5 A Mask 199 -- 119 2 0 0 0 0 0 524 99 9 1 1 50 24 34 S Silvers 193 6 125 2 1 0 0 0 0 524 99 10 1 1 50 25 48 R Bluesday 187 6 131 2 0 0 0 0 0 522 99 15 2 1 50 26 58 T Hudson 184 3 134 2 0 0 0 0 0 522 99 3 0 1 50 27 75 R Nielsen 181 3 137 2 0 0 0 0 0 522 99 10 1 1 50 28 32 H Vance 166 15 152 2 0 0 0 0 0 523 99 1 0 1 50 29 21 P Duffus 164 2 154 2 0 0 0 0 0 523 99 0 0 0 0 30 13 K Kang 158 6 160 2 0 0 0 0 0 523 99 0 0 0 0 31 4 K Breeze 157 1 161 2 0 0 0 0 0 523 99 1 0 1 50 32 70 B Fields 155 2 163 2 0 0 0 0 0 524 99 0 0 0 0 33 30 J Condor 152 3 166 2 0 0 0 0 0 523 99 0 0 0 0 34 77 H Crapnificent 149 3 169 2 0 0 0 0 0 522 99 0 0 0 0 35 39 A Hogg 148 1 170 2 0 0 0 0 0 523 99 1 0 1 50 36 8 K Anderson 139 9 179 2 0 0 0 0 1 476 90 11 2 1 50 37 7 I Craptacular 136 3 182 2 0 0 0 0 0 522 99 1 0 1 50 38 46 A Marriucci 134 2 184 2 0 0 0 0 0 523 99 0 0 0 0 39 28 F Kobeck 133 1 185 2 0 0 0 0 0 518 98 1 0 1 50 40 87 S Joe 122 11 196 2 0 0 0 0 0 522 99 0 0 0 0 41 18 K Collins 109 13 209 2 0 0 0 0 1 270 51 6 1 1 50 42 24 I Long 101 8 217 2 0 0 0 0 0 521 99 0 0 0 0 |
07-07-2003, 12:24 PM | #23 |
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Consecutive 34th place finishes.
WOOT! WOOT!
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07-07-2003, 02:48 PM | #24 |
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Wow, I never thought that I would see the day when both of the Mack brothers would finish in the top ten!!!!
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07-07-2003, 09:31 PM | #25 |
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Next Race
Next up tomorrow is the Subway 500 from Martinsville. Get ready for 500 laps of bumper to bumper, door to door racing.
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07-08-2003, 01:22 AM | #26 |
Captain Obvious
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Man o man, Im gonna need some serious stat changes to make myself competitive, then again maybe Ive just had some really bad luck.
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07-08-2003, 10:34 AM | #27 |
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21st overall is a lot better than last overall!
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07-08-2003, 11:23 AM | #28 |
Coordinator
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Just as a comparison for everyone, and to show you how much luck is involved:
Telle Snow won the last race and is in the top 10 in points standings Kai Collins has done squat and is next to last in the points standings they have the EXACT same stats. Last year was a fluke, Chris Snow and the Silver Bullet is back this year baby =) |
07-08-2003, 11:29 AM | #29 |
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Martinsville Practice Speeds
P # DRIVER TIME
1 12 R Newsday 92.746 mph 2 22 J Mack 92.637 mph 3 44 M Tokunaga 92.633 mph 4 58 T Hudson 92.624 mph 5 3 S Kormelink 92.574 mph 6 19 T Elkin 92.574 mph 7 34 S Silvers 92.529 mph 8 51 N Phillips 92.502 mph 9 21 P Duffus 92.425 mph 10 77 H Crapnificent 92.425 mph |
07-08-2003, 11:30 AM | #30 |
Pro Rookie
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Martinsville Qualifying
P # DRIVER TIME
1 12 R Newsday 92.696 mph 2 95 R Zalez 92.610 mph 3 22 J Mack 92.506 mph 4 44 M Tokunaga 92.312 mph 5 8 K Anderson 92.303 mph 6 30 J Condor 92.294 mph 7 3 S Kormelink 92.285 mph 8 40 C Snow 92.267 mph 9 34 S Silvers 92.209 mph 10 19 T Elkin 92.204 mph 11 17 R Snow 92.200 mph 12 13 K Kang 92.195 mph 13 51 N Phillips 92.191 mph 14 20 M Henderson 92.169 mph 15 79 T Snow 92.155 mph 16 7 I Craptacular 92.142 mph 17 27 B Rudd 92.133 mph 18 48 R Bluesday 92.119 mph 19 18 K Collins 92.092 mph 20 10 T Money 92.083 mph 21 24 I Long 92.034 mph 22 21 P Duffus 92.034 mph 23 29 J Klayman 92.012 mph 24 32 H Vance 92.007 mph 25 5 A Mask 91.972 mph 26 9 M Buttercup Jr. 91.949 mph 27 62 B Mask 91.945 mph 28 70 B Fields 91.918 mph 29 46 A Marriucci 91.918 mph 30 77 H Crapnificent 91.905 mph 31 25 R Zerback 91.878 mph 32 99 J Mack 91.775 mph 33 2 D Ertmann 91.744 mph 34 96 S Daze 91.735 mph 35 4 K Breeze 91.713 mph 36 75 R Nielsen 91.700 mph 37 39 A Hogg 91.660 mph 38 69 A Kaholic 91.633 mph 39 80 E Cu'Firinne 91.624 mph 40 58 T Hudson 91.598 mph 41 28 F Kobeck 91.514 mph 42 87 S Joe 91.346 mph |
07-08-2003, 11:30 AM | #31 |
Pro Rookie
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Martinsville Final Practice Speeds
P # DRIVER TIME
1 95 R Zalez 93.152 mph 2 12 R Newsday 93.139 mph 3 40 C Snow 92.942 mph 4 19 T Elkin 92.924 mph 5 22 J Mack 92.837 mph 6 44 M Tokunaga 92.787 mph 7 58 T Hudson 92.737 mph 8 30 J Condor 92.719 mph 9 3 S Kormelink 92.710 mph 10 17 R Snow 92.710 mph |
07-08-2003, 11:38 AM | #32 |
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Subway 500 Results
A typical day at Martinsville. Cars continually running into each other and the wall. And one car is able to steer clear of all the mess and pull out a victory. This happens everytime year. But one thing that doesn't normally happen is for Mike Tokunaga to dominate. And that's what happened today. Tokunaga led 265 of 500 laps and won the Subway 500 easily. Only two others were on the lead lap, Shane Kormelink and Chris Snow.
The string of badluck continues for Kai Collins. A 39th place finish after a clutch problem will drop Collins to last in the standings. The top rookie today was Parris Duffus in the #21 Dr. Pepper car. Duffus came in 10th. code: |
07-08-2003, 11:45 AM | #33 |
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We've never seen this before have we? Chris Snow leading the points? That's never happened before, right? Well, I'm afraid it has and it looks like it might continue for awhile. After a few years abscence from the top, Chris Snow finds himself back home again. Three quality top ten finishes have given him the top spot. Bobby Mask finds himself in 2nd. Shane Kormelink is 3rd, Rewbie Newsday 4th and Billy Rudd 5th.
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07-08-2003, 11:49 AM | #34 |
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NICE! Finally, I am competitive!!!
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07-08-2003, 12:11 PM | #35 |
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A top 5 finish for the Badstreet Fields and the Crown Royal racing team. Wow! That happens, uh, never.
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07-08-2003, 01:31 PM | #36 |
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I'm BAAaaaaaaaaaaaack =)
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07-08-2003, 02:11 PM | #37 |
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Martinsville Pictures
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07-08-2003, 02:21 PM | #38 |
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Almost made the top 20 ah well better luck next time.
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See Man!! I told you this would work =) great Run for you dude, Proud of that damn car! |
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07-08-2003, 03:35 PM | #40 |
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Slowly climbing up the ladder. Had another race where I led for 10-odd laps but it just wouldn't stick.
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07-08-2003, 04:33 PM | #41 |
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Next Up: FOFC 500
Next up for the 42 drivers in the FOFC Winston Cup is Zenjoltis and the FOFC 500. Zenjoltis is 5 miles long, and wide enough to go 5 and 6 wide. Speeds reach 275 MPH.
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Re: Re: Martinsville Pictures
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Thanks RendeR! You were a huge part of it...thanks again for the stat recommendations!
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07-09-2003, 05:56 AM | #43 |
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Wow. I must be seeing things. Breeze with a top 10 finish....no way.
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07-09-2003, 10:38 AM | #44 |
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Zenjoltis Practice Speeds
P # DRIVER TIME
1 34 S Silvers 276.224 mph 2 29 J Klayman 276.224 mph 3 12 R Newsday 276.219 mph 4 51 N Phillips 276.219 mph 5 80 E Cu'Firinne 275.485 mph 6 21 P Duffus 275.476 mph 7 87 S Joe 275.361 mph 8 69 A Kaholic 275.356 mph 9 10 T Money 275.356 mph 10 17 R Snow 275.048 mph |
07-09-2003, 10:38 AM | #45 |
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Zenjoltis Qualifying
P # DRIVER TIME
1 96 S Daze 273.026 mph 2 51 N Phillips 272.934 mph 3 27 B Rudd 272.917 mph 4 69 A Kaholic 272.690 mph 5 34 S Silvers 272.627 mph 6 3 S Kormelink 272.614 mph 7 77 H Crapnificent 272.535 mph 8 13 K Kang 272.501 mph 9 25 R Zerback 272.476 mph 10 12 R Newsday 272.463 mph 11 22 J Mack 272.371 mph 12 79 T Snow 272.346 mph 13 58 T Hudson 272.317 mph 14 17 R Snow 272.212 mph 15 40 C Snow 271.991 mph 16 39 A Hogg 271.819 mph 17 48 R Bluesday 271.786 mph 18 28 F Kobeck 271.757 mph 19 80 E Cu'Firinne 271.611 mph 20 87 S Joe 271.578 mph 21 18 K Collins 271.548 mph 22 7 I Craptacular 271.544 mph 23 21 P Duffus 271.528 mph 24 75 R Nielsen 271.407 mph 25 10 T Money 271.407 mph 26 30 J Condor 271.399 mph 27 29 J Klayman 271.270 mph 28 2 D Ertmann 271.266 mph 29 9 M Buttercup Jr. 271.195 mph 30 44 M Tokunaga 271.116 mph 31 19 T Elkin 270.959 mph 32 62 B Mask 270.892 mph 33 32 H Vance 270.876 mph 34 8 K Anderson 270.851 mph 35 70 B Fields 270.851 mph 36 46 A Marriucci 270.847 mph 37 5 A Mask 270.710 mph 38 95 R Zalez 270.454 mph 39 20 M Henderson 270.408 mph 40 4 K Breeze 270.371 mph 41 99 J Mack 270.322 mph 42 24 I Long 268.890 mph |
07-09-2003, 10:38 AM | #46 |
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Zenjoltis Final Practice Speeds
P # DRIVER TIME
1 29 J Klayman 276.776 mph 2 25 R Zerback 276.750 mph 3 79 T Snow 276.108 mph 4 20 M Henderson 276.108 mph 5 21 P Duffus 276.103 mph 6 7 I Craptacular 276.103 mph 7 18 K Collins 275.892 mph 8 27 B Rudd 275.181 mph 9 46 A Marriucci 275.181 mph 10 30 J Condor 275.181 mph |
07-09-2003, 10:42 AM | #47 |
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Two drivers dominated today's running of the FOFC 500. Sonny Daze had the pole and led for 38 laps, but a bad pit stop gave Nick Phillips the lead and he never looked back leading 52 laps for the win. The race ended under caution after a major pileup with 3 laps remaining. Eilim Cu'Firinne, Andre Mask, Mustafa Henderson, Jay Klayman, Thomas Hudson, Ren Snow, Jeeber D Mack, Telle Snow, Kodos N. Kang and Aaron Hogg were all knocked out of the race in the wreck.
FOFC 500 at ZenJoltis Quad Oval MegaSpeedway Caution Flags: 3 (12 laps) Lead Changes: 13 (5 drivers) Weather: Clear, 56 °F, North 10 mph FINISH START # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED PTS QUAL STATUS 1 2 51 N Phillips 190.130 100 52* 185 1:04.895 Running 2 3 27 B Rudd -1.04 100 5 175 1:04.899 Running 3 10 12 R Newsday -2.08 100 0 165 1:05.007 Running 4 1 96 S Daze -4.16 100 38 165 1:04.873 Running 5 17 48 R Bluesday -4.69 100 0 155 1:05.169 Running 6 23 21 P Duffus -5.21 100 0 150 1:05.231 Running 7 15 40 C Snow -6.78 100 0 146 1:05.120 Running 8 20 87 S Joe -7.30 100 0 142 1:05.219 Running 9 26 30 J Condor -7.81 100 0 138 1:05.262 Running 10 31 19 T Elkin -8.34 100 0 134 1:05.368 Running 11 4 69 A Kaholic -8.86 100 0 130 1:04.953 Running 12 41 99 J Mack -9.39 100 0 127 1:05.522 Running 13 22 7 I Craptacular -9.91 100 0 124 1:05.227 Running 14 32 62 B Mask -10.43 100 0 121 1:05.384 Running 15 18 28 F Kobeck -10.96 100 0 118 1:05.176 Running 16 40 4 K Breeze -11.48 100 0 115 1:05.510 Running 17 28 2 D Ertmann -12.00 100 0 112 1:05.294 Running 18 21 18 K Collins -12.53 100 0 109 1:05.226 Running 19 6 3 S Kormelink -13.05 100 0 106 1:04.971 Running 20 7 77 H Crapnificent -13.58 100 0 103 1:04.990 Running 21 33 32 H Vance -14.11 100 0 100 1:05.388 Running 22 36 46 A Marriucci -14.65 100 0 97 1:05.395 Running 23 29 9 M Buttercup Jr. -15.18 100 0 94 1:05.311 Running 24 30 44 M Tokunaga -15.71 100 0 91 1:05.330 Running 25 9 25 R Zerback -1L 99 1 93 1:05.004 Running 26 38 95 R Zalez -1L 99 0 85 1:05.490 Running 27 24 75 R Nielsen -1L 99 0 82 1:05.260 Running 28 35 70 B Fields -1L 99 0 79 1:05.394 Running 29 42 24 I Long -1L 99 0 76 1:05.871 Running 30 34 8 K Anderson -1L 99 0 73 1:05.394 Running 31 25 10 T Money -1L 99 0 70 1:05.260 Running 32 19 80 E Cu'Firinne -4L 96 4 72 1:05.211 Retired 33 37 5 A Mask -4L 96 0 64 1:05.428 Accident 34 39 20 M Henderson -4L 96 0 61 1:05.501 Accident 35 27 29 J Klayman -4L 96 0 58 1:05.293 Accident 36 13 58 T Hudson -4L 96 0 55 1:05.042 Accident 37 14 17 R Snow -4L 96 0 52 1:05.067 Accident 38 11 22 J Mack -4L 96 0 49 1:05.029 Accident 39 12 79 T Snow -4L 96 0 46 1:05.035 Accident 40 8 13 K Kang -4L 96 0 43 1:04.998 Accident 41 16 39 A Hogg -5L 95 0 40 1:05.161 Accident 42 5 34 S Silvers -82L 18 0 37 1:04.968 Header |
07-09-2003, 10:42 AM | #48 |
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Standings
AFTER 4 OF 25 EVENTS
TOTAL LAPS: 1125 P # DRIVER PTS NEXT LDR S P WINS T5 T10 DNF LC % LL % RL % 1 40 C Snow 606 -- -- 4 0 0 1 4 0 1125 100 15 1 3 75 2 27 B Rudd 587 19 19 4 0 0 2 3 0 1123 99 69 6 3 75 3 12 R Newsday 580 7 26 4 0 0 2 3 0 1123 99 113 10 2 50 4 51 N Phillips 572 8 34 4 0 1 2 3 0 1118 99 58 5 2 50 5 62 B Mask 563 9 43 4 0 1 1 2 0 1123 99 7 0 1 25 6 3 S Kormelink 521 42 85 4 0 0 1 2 0 1124 99 62 5 2 50 7 69 A Kaholic 487 34 119 4 0 0 1 1 0 1120 99 30 2 1 25 8 44 M Tokunaga 476 11 130 4 0 1 1 1 0 1125 100 265 23 1 25 9 99 J Mack 470 6 136 4 0 0 0 1 0 1122 99 0 0 0 0 10 9 M Buttercup Jr. 467 3 139 4 0 0 0 1 0 1121 99 4 0 1 25 11 22 J Mack 461 6 145 4 0 0 1 2 1 1117 99 6 0 3 75 12 95 R Zalez 452 9 154 4 1 0 0 0 0 1122 99 4 0 2 50 13 21 P Duffus 448 4 158 4 0 0 0 2 0 1121 99 0 0 0 0 14 96 S Daze 446 2 160 4 1 0 1 1 0 1112 98 39 3 2 50 15 2 D Ertmann 445 1 161 4 0 0 0 0 0 1121 99 0 0 0 0 16 20 M Henderson 438 7 168 4 1 0 1 1 1 1117 99 168 14 2 50 17 79 T Snow 433 5 173 4 0 1 1 1 1 1119 99 160 14 2 50 18 19 T Elkin 433 -- 173 4 0 0 1 2 0 1113 98 0 0 0 0 19 4 K Breeze 422 11 184 4 0 0 0 1 0 1122 99 1 0 1 25 20 48 R Bluesday 415 7 191 4 0 0 1 1 0 1117 99 15 1 1 25 21 32 H Vance 408 7 198 4 0 0 0 1 0 1122 99 1 0 1 25 22 30 J Condor 402 6 204 4 0 0 0 1 0 1120 99 0 0 0 0 23 25 R Zerback 389 13 217 4 0 0 1 1 0 1115 99 13 1 2 50 24 70 B Fields 389 -- 217 4 0 0 1 1 0 1122 99 0 0 0 0 25 5 A Mask 384 5 222 4 0 0 0 0 1 1118 99 9 0 1 25 26 34 S Silvers 381 3 225 4 1 0 0 1 1 1041 92 20 1 2 50 27 29 J Klayman 375 6 231 4 0 0 0 0 1 1116 99 1 0 1 25 28 87 S Joe 361 14 245 4 0 0 0 1 0 1118 99 0 0 0 0 29 80 E Cu'Firinne 351 10 255 4 0 0 1 1 2 665 59 11 0 2 50 30 77 H Crapnificent 346 5 260 4 0 0 0 0 0 1118 99 0 0 0 0 31 8 K Anderson 335 11 271 4 0 0 0 0 1 1073 95 13 1 2 50 32 58 T Hudson 318 17 288 4 0 0 0 0 1 1113 98 3 0 1 25 33 7 I Craptacular 312 6 294 4 0 0 0 0 1 840 74 1 0 1 25 34 28 F Kobeck 312 -- 294 4 0 0 0 0 0 1108 98 1 0 1 25 35 10 T Money 312 -- 294 4 0 0 0 0 1 733 65 10 0 1 25 36 17 R Snow 311 1 295 4 0 0 0 1 2 833 74 9 0 1 25 37 46 A Marriucci 307 4 299 4 0 0 0 0 0 1118 99 0 0 0 0 38 75 R Nielsen 303 4 303 4 0 0 0 0 1 729 64 10 0 1 25 39 13 K Kang 286 17 320 4 0 0 0 0 1 1115 99 0 0 0 0 40 39 A Hogg 279 7 327 4 0 0 0 0 1 1114 99 1 0 1 25 41 18 K Collins 264 15 342 4 0 0 0 0 2 518 46 6 0 1 25 42 24 I Long 241 23 365 4 0 0 0 0 0 1112 98 0 0 0 0 |
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I'll have Zenjoltis pictures up later
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