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I've never said they haven't made more mistakes than MS. They've made plenty, most are related to their price point more than anything else though in terms of impact. Beyond that, it's a pretty cut and dry system release. It just happens to be amongst heavy competition. Not every system gets out of the gates like the Wii, and the Wii did because of it's friendly price in addition to it's innovative play and being bundled with the perfect party game (my house hold still plays Wii sports regularly and we've had it since launch day).
And I haven't directly called anyone a fanboy, I don't think I need to - I certainly don't come in here defending myself everytime someone says the words 'PS3 fanboy'. Everyone makes their fair points at times. Just not everyone gets credit for it. Last edited by Deattribution : 01-10-2008 at 12:33 AM. |
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FWIW......I think the labeling of any poster as being a 'fanboy' or otherwise is fruitless and doesn't achieve anything. I personally try to address the topic of discussion (whatever it might be) rather than any agenda that I might perceive of a given poster. The one exception might be MattJones4Heismann, because he's openly claimed the title of 'Wii fanboy' with great pride in previous posts.
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01-10-2008, 07:41 AM | #403 |
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Microsoft issued an official response to the XBL problems.
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01-10-2008, 09:51 AM | #404 |
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Reuters is reporting that Sony will cease production and shipment of 20 and 60 GB PS3's in Japan. The 40 GB machine will be the only unit for the time being with other units eventually added to meet customer requests. My guess is that the 80 GB will be added once the 20 and 60 GB machines' remaining stock is cleared out. Probably will result in a short term boost to sales on those models for those that want to pick up the fully BC models.
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MJ4H is one I have respect for. He openly admits where his priorites are and which system he's a proponent of. And you'll note that nobody has said a word to him about it. On the other hand, an individual who claims he's unbiased, yet is clearly in favor of one system (and there is NO doubt on this point) gets a lot of crap. See how that works? |
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01-10-2008, 10:46 AM | #406 | |
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You phrase your post like I was somehow pointing out a problem with MJ4H because of his bias. Couldn't be further from the truth. I'm assuming you're implying that I've somehow claimed a total lack of bias in these discussions. That couldn't be further from the truth. A majority of the people in this thread carry a bias towards the 360, but that doesn't mean that their opinion is any more/less important than anyone else IMO. A poster's bias doesn't inherently make their points right or wrong. The points that they make and the basis of support for those points are what determines how accurate their perception of a given situation is. Last edited by Mizzou B-ball fan : 01-10-2008 at 10:47 AM. |
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01-10-2008, 11:01 AM | #407 |
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Market analysts Hickey and Pachter discuss the effect of the possible end of the HD movie format war on the game console market:
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Rumors are that the missing character on each platform might be downloadable (for a small fee of course) later on. Great to see Namco taking a page from the three console manufacturers and getting every last cent out of the people they can. |
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01-10-2008, 02:24 PM | #409 | |
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I fully admit that while I was at MS, I had a predisposed bias towards the Xbox vs. the PS2. Once I stopped working for MS (in late '04) my predisposed bias lessened, and then it lessened even more once I started working for a multi-platform publisher (Midway). I was fully prepared to get on board with the PS3 this generation, but Sony's mistakes have put the kibosh on that so far. I was prepared to embrace the PS3, but so far I've felt no compelling reason to do so. I'm also a big, big fan of the Wii, though I also think it's more of an indirect competitor to the 360 and PS3. |
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I'm not sure why people are shocked by this, Namco has already done this before..with this series no less. |
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01-11-2008, 07:07 AM | #414 | |
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As has been mentioned before by other posters, anyone who uses the comments of a message board poster as a justification for liking/disliking a consumer product instead of using the actual merits of said product likely needs to take a step back and reassess the situation. I'm guessing the rough non-conference start for the basketball team has you a bit grumpy. |
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01-11-2008, 07:13 AM | #415 | |
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I would agree with that, though the criticisms of the PS3 tend to be based more on release and early problems just after release than anything they've done in recent months. The PS3 has been the unquestioned whipping boy thus far overall. It's been kicked more than the neighbor's dog, and most of it over the first 9 months was well-warranted. It's taken them a year to finally get their sales figures going. They (Sony) obviously didn't anticipate that, though they should have considering most knew exactly what the problems were on release. |
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New screen shots of Lost Odyssey..........
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_5746_en.html Interview with MS head of global marketing (long).......... http://www.gamespot.com/news/6184535.html Sony has reduced manufacturing costs of the PS3 to $400 (was $800 at release)......... http://www.businessweek.com/globalbi...lobal+business Quote:
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01-11-2008, 07:51 AM | #419 | |
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That is really odd. They are really out of context. Spawn was a little out of context in SC2 but not badly. This just seems random. SI
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Lots of info about Resistance 2 just released in a preview. Online 8-player co-op campaign mode and 60 player multi-player battle maps are the main feature sets. Summary points of article are listed below............
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01-11-2008, 12:58 PM | #423 | |
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No, it's just to the point now, that I usually just skip over your posts in these threads. |
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Article that discusses the specifics concerning the British Telecom deal with Microsoft.............
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I broke down and bought a used 60 GB PS3 off of Amazon. Resistance is the first game that I picked up. PS3 should arrive next week sometime. Reading the problems with the emulation for games that I have and still haven't played convinced me to make a move to get the full backwards compatibility while I could.
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01-12-2008, 10:36 PM | #427 |
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Any idea of why when I play online, the controller keeps disconnecting. It's not the batteries (3 bars). The globe just went dead, then I would have to reconnect it every 3 seconds.
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I still had mine until about 5 years ago.
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Total flame bait aside, I've been quite happy with my PS3 and use it quite a bit. The discussion has nothing to do with justification of any sort. I wish I could say the same about my Wii purchase. I still haven't played that console for a couple of months now. |
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01-14-2008, 09:58 AM | #432 |
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I still play my Wii more than my Xbox 360, and I haven't even gotten going with Mario Galaxy yet (still playing Zack and Wiki).
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I think my DS purchase was better than my Wii purchase, but I'd have never considered a DS before getting a Wii. The Wii showed me what I'd been missing with Nintendo.
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Xbox Live is moving into the 4th week of server problems. The rumor spreading around is they have run into some deeply embedded server code limitation problems that may require a full rebuild of the server system. Unfortunately, due to the class action lawsuit they are facing, no date for a possible fix will be publicized.
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Well, you can't say good games haven't been coming out. Starting in August: Metriod Prime 3, Fire Emblem, Ghost Squad, Guilty Gear: Accent Core, Guitar Hero 3, Lego Star Wars Complete Saga, Mario/Sonic at the Olympics, Medal of Honor Heroes 2, Mercury Meltdown Revolution, MLB Power Pros, NiGHTS: Journey into Dreams, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, Super Mario Galaxy, Tiger Woods 08, Trauma Center: New Blood, and Zack and Wiki. Now, not all of these are great, insta-classic games (although a few are) but they're all at least pretty good and cover a wide variety of genres. I've read posts saying you don't like Wii Sports, that you don't like traditional Nintendo first party games, and don't seem to be willing to try any of the several good third-party games that have been released, why not sell the Wii, make a few bucks and buy games for the only console that seems to interest you? Better than posting that you haven't been able to justify your purchase over and over. |
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01-14-2008, 11:03 AM | #436 |
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The Wii must be Mizzou's parallel of my Dreamcast fiasco. Worst purchase I ever made.
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I stopped following along closely in these threads, but if what you're saying is true about mizzou's comments regarding what he likes and doesn't like... why the hell would you get a Wii in the first place? It's like if I said I don't like Metal Gear, Gran Turismo, FPS on consoles, RPGs, Halo, and couldn't care less about graphics... yet bought a 360 or PS3. |
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Actually, I've consistently stated that Wii Sports was one of the best games on the console, though that's quite telling on its own merit. The third party lineup has been awfully rough outside of a couple of games. I made the mistake of thinking that a Nintendo console would finally somehow garner some AAA third-party titles. Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case thus far. I actually considered selling the Wii over the holidays. Unfortunately, there were people offering the Wii with 4 controllers and between 5-15 games for $500 or less online. Given that competition in the auction market, I likely couldn't make back my initial investment in what I had, so I held onto it. I have considered donating it to a local church or hospital as an alternative. |
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It's not all correct, but you certainly make a good point. There's been several posters in these threads that have similar feelings about the Wii. I certainly ask myself the same question that you just brought up. |
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No More Heroes and Burnout Paradise both get 9's in this month's Edge (which has only given a 10 several times in the last decade), can't wait to play NMH next week.
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01-14-2008, 11:23 AM | #443 | |
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They still sell for decent money here it seems like... I find it hard to believe 4 controllers and 5-15 games for <$500. |
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No kidding, considering some were going for 300-400 on EBay before the holidays for just the base unit. |
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There were several wholesale sellers on eBay with those exact deals on December 17th. They obviously get the goods at a significant discount, so they can still make good money even at those prices. I was pretty sure that I could sell my used system for a pretty good profit until I saw those numbers. It was actually quite discouraging when I saw it. You can easily search the completed deal listing to see those listings. |
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01-14-2008, 11:32 AM | #446 |
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Are you sure you weren't seeing bullshit like this:
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That's the thing. I think the Wii is ridiculously good for people with kids 5 and up. They aren't overly particular about the quality of the game and they just want to have a bit of mindless fun. My kid is only 10 months, so I'm not really in that demographic. I'm guessing my tune will be quite different in a few years once my little one reaches elementary age. |
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Nope. I bought it because I fell for NFL 2K after seeing it in the stores. But I ended up preferring the gameplay of Madden on the PS1, so I ended up going back to that. Then I tried buying other games like Crazy Taxi to justify my purchase, but I ended up not liking those games either. I think a big part of it was that I hated the controller, and loved the dual shock (whichever version was in existence at the time). |
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Wedbush-Morgan preview of December Northa American NPD numbers and market trends...............
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