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Old 02-29-2008, 11:17 AM   #351
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:18 AM   #352
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:20 AM   #353
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:23 AM   #354
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Clarification of a few things:

1. This was a unilateral decision by me. If you're mad at someone, don't blame the group. Be mad at me.

2. While the great majority of decisions are available for group input, I do take action on my own at times. (All formally-reported posts are posted in the mod forum, and deciding to take no action on the bulk of those is the thing we do much more often than anything else. )

3. The final decision on moderation decisions always rests with me, although sometimes the mods do stuff that I wouldn't do myself. Still, even in those cases, if I wanted to stop it, I could. So again. Don't blame the group. Be mad at me.

Very few have changed their FOFC user settings for these things, so I am pretty sure the default setting of 'SkyDog is to blame for _____' is currently enabled for most people here.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:23 AM   #355
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:24 AM   #356
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:26 AM   #357
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If the answer is no, can I change your mind?

What cards do you have left?
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:26 AM   #358
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:27 AM   #359
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I have this, think it'll help?

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Old 02-29-2008, 11:34 AM   #360
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I'm going to produce a press conference for SkyDog so he won't have to go any further now that he's claimed responsibility.

The reporters have assembled, the cameras are whirring, and SkyDog is at the podium.

"I have an opening statement. I'm here to talk to you about the recent action against the notorious and dangerous troll Phalid. I understand the pain that the friends and admirers of banned posters feel. I have to deal with them every day, see the pain in their posts. But if we don't ban, then the trolls win. The decision to ban was mine, and I take responsibility for it. To those who say I should stop banning, or who are waiting for me to lift the ban, they are living in false hopes. Now to your questions"

But what about those that say the trolls are really in other threads, such as the parody threads? That banning Phalid in the "It Hurts When I Pee" thread is a diversion of our moderating resources from the places where we really need them?

"The connection between "It Hurts When I Pee" and other troll threads were very clearly demonstrated by Secretary Subby and Board Security Advisor Condoleeza Lathum. There was clear evidence of an intent to troll, even if the actual trolling was pretty lame in practice. There was a definite trolliness to Phalid, everyone could see it. I mean, just look at that screen name? Phalid-- what the hell? And our resources are not misplaced -- We fight the trolls in IHWIP so that we don't have to fight them in our other threads."

But there are credible reports that Phalid was not trolling, that he was actually reporting a true event and soliciting advice, in much the same humorous way other posters would.


"I have seen these reports, but you have to understand -- being moderator is hard. It's hard work. Some days I wonder why I ever wanted to be a moderator, but I have a firm resolve to see the job done. I think posters want me to do what I feel is right. Even if I'm wrong, so long as I feel I am right, that's what's important."

There are many who believe there is too much moderation going on in that thread, that we should bring most, or maybe all of our moderators home. How do you answer these people?

"I understand people have different opinions, but you have to understand, too, that people are stupid. I have to deal with stupid people every day -- believe me. You wouldn't believe how many ignoramuses argue with me about stuff. It's crazy, when it's so obvious that I am right."

Rather than putting an end to the trolling, it seems as if banning Phalid has increased trolling in IHWIP. How do you plan to deal with this situation as it threatens to spiral out of control?

"I have consulted my team of experts and we have devised a plan to increase moderation by 30% over a period of months. We will have a "surge" of moderators, and their efforts will make it possible for us to bring the IHWIP thread back into a kind of political stability. Once that happens, you will see far less trolling there -- maybe a post or two a day. The benefit to us will be enormous."

What if the surge doesn't work?

"What are you, a dumbass? I just told you it would work."

How long do you foresee the banning of Phalid to be in effect?

"I can't predict the future, a hundred years? Maybe a thousand? We'll ban Phalid for as long as it takes. If we don't keep banning, the trolls win. Do you want trolls in your "Literary Draft" threads? Do you want to see trolls blowing up threads in the FOF forum? You have to understand the very real threats that we face. I don't know why you don't understand that, except, as I say, people are stupid."

But there are people who remind us that Hell Atlantic is still out there, unbanned. We know where he is, yet instead of using resources to ban him, we are putting them all into IHWIP.

"We'll ban Hell Atlantic when the time and opportunity are right. We already have him on the run. There's no hole deep enough for him to hide in. I'm not worried at all about Hell Atlantic. I don't even think about him. Thank you for your time."

**with apologies to Lathum, Subby, and Hell Atlantic for the satire. Skydog deserves it.

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Old 02-29-2008, 11:37 AM   #361
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Make sure you have this guy hold the press conference...

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Old 02-29-2008, 11:37 AM   #362
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It's basically sending the message to any lurker that it's safer to not post than to be sorry
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:39 AM   #363
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Make sure you have this guy hold the press conference...


Heh, well he would be Phalid's press secretary.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:41 AM   #364
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:51 AM   #365
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I have this, think it'll help?


I'm pretty sure that might be what got this thread started in the first place.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:51 AM   #366
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:09 PM   #367
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Sidhe, that post was great

+1

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Old 02-29-2008, 12:13 PM   #368
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Thank you. I'm rarely moved to post, but the satire possibilities were so obvious there I couldn't resist. Although the limericks almost got me..
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:18 PM   #369
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:28 PM   #370
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It's basically sending the message to any lurker that it's safer to not post than to be sorry

Yeah any lurker or new user has to fucking walk on egg shells now, since precedence has been set.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:39 PM   #371
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Yeah any lurker or new user has to fucking walk on egg shells now, since precedence has been set.

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Old 02-29-2008, 12:56 PM   #372
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Wait a second... why is this guy still around?!!!!?



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Old 02-29-2008, 01:00 PM   #373
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Wait a second... why is this guy still around?!!!!?

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Why does it hurt when I pee?

st.cronin, do you want to tell us something?

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Old 02-29-2008, 01:02 PM   #374
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:02 PM   #375
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:03 PM   #376
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Really man. You should've made this thread here a long time ago.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:10 PM   #377
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Yeah any lurker or new user has to fucking walk on egg shells now, since precedence has been set.

If "fucking walk on egg shells" is equal to not talking about painful urination or pulling dried bits of smelly chunks out of their belly button, then the terrorists have already won.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:21 PM   #378
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LOL, I had to pick somebody! No harm intended.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:30 PM   #379
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I think the safe bet for any n00b would be to simply quote others and add "+1" for their first 100 posts.

Actually, we don't really have any idea what the safe limit is, do we? Perha[s we need SkyDork to sticky a chart showing the safe thresholds for various topics. Here is a sample template:

0-100 posts: May only discuss sports, and may not use sarcasm lest it be misconstrued.
101-200 posts: May now use limited sarcasm, and can extend topics to include video games and business. Politics and Religion are still off limit.
201-1000 posts: Full use of sarcasm is now available. Politics and Religion may be discussed to the extent that you don't have an adverse opinion to SkyDork. Threads involving sexual themes and or bodily fluids may be engaged, but not created.
>1000 posts: You may now do and say pretty much anything within the stickied posting guidelines. You can discuss fucking a sandwich, a sock, or how long your penis is as related by past girlfriends. You can start monthly threads devoted to 1-sided misinformation campaigns. You can virtually facial other members with syrup-pee. The board is your high-school girlfriend, and you may now dry hump her passionately.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:31 PM   #380
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Just wanted to give it the proper recognition. I would like to follow this sentence with proper LOL.

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Old 02-29-2008, 01:32 PM   #381
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Yeah any lurker or new user has to fucking walk on egg shells now, since precedence has been set.

shit.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:34 PM   #382
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I think the safe bet for any n00b would be to simply quote others and add "+1" for their first 100 posts.

Actually, we don't really have any idea what the safe limit is, do we? Perha[s we need SkyDork to sticky a chart showing the safe thresholds for various topics. Here is a sample template:

0-100 posts: May only discuss sports, and may not use sarcasm lest it be misconstrued.
101-200 posts: May now use limited sarcasm, and can extend topics to include video games and business. Politics and Religion are still off limit.
201-1000 posts: Full use of sarcasm is now available. Politics and Religion may be discussed to the extent that you don't have an adverse opinion to SkyDork. Threads involving sexual themes and or bodily fluids may be engaged, but not created.
>1000 posts: You may now do and say pretty much anything within the stickied posting guidelines. You can discuss fucking a sandwich, a sock, or how long your penis is as related by past girlfriends. You can start monthly threads devoted to 1-sided misinformation campaigns. You can virtually facial other members with syrup-pee. The board is your high-school girlfriend, and you may now dry hump her passionately.

+1

Can we get a sticky up in here
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:35 PM   #383
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This is a free board but we have grown as a community never have I ever questioned the leadership until now. It was a poor move and unless Phalid was a proven troll(such as ip check, or a banned member coming back.) then it sets a precedence of you can be banned for things you might do. If he can't be objective then prehaps he needs to go ahead and step to focus on FOF2007 which seems to be where he spends most of his time.

- I mean no disrespect to Skydog at all I think he's a alright guy. I don't think he has given a valid reason for banning Phalid. Also this has nothing to do with Phalid and more to do with in my opinion is an abuse of power.

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Old 02-29-2008, 01:36 PM   #384
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:36 PM   #385
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I think the safe bet for any n00b would be to simply quote others and add "+1" for their first 100 posts.

Actually, we don't really have any idea what the safe limit is, do we? Perha[s we need SkyDork to sticky a chart showing the safe thresholds for various topics. Here is a sample template:

0-100 posts: May only discuss sports, and may not use sarcasm lest it be misconstrued.
101-200 posts: May now use limited sarcasm, and can extend topics to include video games and business. Politics and Religion are still off limit.
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>1000 posts: You may now do and say pretty much anything within the stickied posting guidelines. You can discuss fucking a sandwich, a sock, or how long your penis is as related by past girlfriends. You can start monthly threads devoted to 1-sided misinformation campaigns. You can virtually facial other members with syrup-pee. The board is your high-school girlfriend, and you may now dry hump her passionately.

You've stepped up your funniness lately.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:38 PM   #386
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man, i'd love to virtually facial noop

What's stopping you.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:39 PM   #387
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What's stopping you.

he's packing heat
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Maybe the General Discussion mod should be someone who participates in general discussion?

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Old 02-29-2008, 01:39 PM   #389
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man, i'd love to virtually facial noop

For the first time I am creeped out by something on the internet. What you said is very homo.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:40 PM   #390
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Maybe the General Discussion mod should be someone who participates in general discussion?

Woah.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:40 PM   #391
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For the first time I am creeped out by something on the internet. What you said is very homo.

if it's virtual I don't think it's homo. although we might need a ruling on this.
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I second this motion.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:42 PM   #394
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:42 PM   #395
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Clarification of a few things:

1. This was a unilateral decision by me. If you're mad at someone, don't blame the group. Be mad at me.

2. While the great majority of decisions are available for group input, I do take action on my own at times. (All formally-reported posts are posted in the mod forum, and deciding to take no action on the bulk of those is the thing we do much more often than anything else. )

3. The final decision on moderation decisions always rests with me, although sometimes the mods do stuff that I wouldn't do myself. Still, even in those cases, if I wanted to stop it, I could. So again. Don't blame the group. Be mad at me.

So much ignorance, so little intelligence.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:43 PM   #396
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You've stepped up your funniness lately.

Why thank you!

Interestingly my productivity has stepped down.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:43 PM   #397
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:44 PM   #398
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I don't usually comment on bannings and boxing. Moderating a forum is a thankless job and I this is by far my favorite forum. I think it's well run and entertaining. Unless there's something else going on that we aren't aware of though it seems like maybe a mistake was made in banning Phalid...

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So much ignorance, so little intelligence.

Bannanated in 3...2...1...
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