The FOFC Television Family Draft - Draft Underway - Page 7

wade moore · 01-15-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

If one pick eliminated a show, we would run out of shows.

Hello there captain hyperbole!!!

wade moore · 01-15-2009, 07:44 PM

fwiw - I think both ways of doing it are good games, just different. I probably would have made the show get eliminated, but like I said there is interesting strategy here as well.

lordscarlet · 01-15-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

FWIW, I think the game is infinitely easier then. It makes it less interesting when it comes down to making your team since we could all have potentially super-star teams.

As does expanding to all shows, not just sitcom family shows. It seems to no longer be just sitcoms, and not be only "family" shows. Basically you can pick from any tv show that ever aired and the only thing that can be blocked is an actor/actress/voice artist.

RendeR · 01-15-2009, 07:45 PM

I had thought of lasie, but then thinking about the specifics of the game I decided lassie wasn't a comedy so I left him off my list. I did think of a pet though and I'm doubting anyone else thinks of this one but I'll have to wait and see.

wade moore · 01-15-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

I had thought of lasie, but then thinking about the specifics of the game I decided lassie wasn't a comedy so I left him off my list. I did think of a pet though and I'm doubting anyone else thinks of this one but I'll have to wait and see.

This got changed from a "Sitcom" draft to a "Television Family" draft before we started drafting. Comedy is irrelevant imo at this point.

RendeR · 01-15-2009, 07:47 PM

Oh...guess I missed that point.

Raiders Army · 01-15-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Yeah - it can cut a lot of ways. I worry that when you have someone from X show and so do 3 other people, does that hurt your roster for voters? It might - a risk I was willing to take here, but a risk nonetheless.

Hmmm....I think the contrary actually. I don't look at Theo as a risk at all, but more of a "hedging your bet" type guy.

One of the things I discussed with my wife was whether to draft on pure entertainment value, pure icon status, or general cohesiveness. I'm still a little undecided on which way to go.

Mustang · 01-15-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

This got changed from a "Sitcom" draft to a "Television Family" draft before we started drafting. Comedy is irrelevant imo at this point.

Grrr...

Missed that.

Ah well. I stand by my picks.

Raiders Army · 01-15-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Oh...guess I missed that point.

Me too since the thread title is Television Family Draft and in the first post it still says sitcom.

Raiders Army · 01-15-2009, 07:50 PM

dola, and if it's not a sitcom family draft, then Cliff Huxtable definitely isn't the first choice for Dad.

Maple Leafs · 01-15-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

dola, and if it's not a sitcom family draft, then Cliff Huxtable definitely isn't the first choice for Dad.

Yes he is.

Danny · 01-15-2009, 07:52 PM

I thought it was sitcom family draft too.

Mustang · 01-15-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

dola, and if it's not a sitcom family draft, then Cliff Huxtable definitely isn't the first choice for Dad.

hmm.. depends on what you are drafting for.

lordscarlet · 01-15-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

dola, and if it's not a sitcom family draft, then Cliff Huxtable definitely isn't the first choice for Dad.

If you're thinking what I think you are, you're still wrong.

Raiders Army · 01-15-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Yes he is.

I disagree. There are far better fathers out there in dramas.

I think we need to pause for a moment and let Dr. Sak clarify this. Looking at the picks, I think most players thought this was sitcom only. How else would you pick Homer Simpson over XXXX? Or Stewie over XXXXX? My two cents, but I think that most people still thought this was sitcoms only.

Tasan · 01-15-2009, 07:55 PM

I'm here and I'm picking, just gimmie a second.

wade moore · 01-15-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I disagree. There are far better fathers out there in dramas.

I think we need to pause for a moment and let Dr. Sak clarify this. Looking at the picks, I think most players thought this was sitcom only. How else would you pick Homer Simpson over XXXX? Or Stewie over XXXXX? My two cents, but I think that most people still thought this was sitcoms only.

Did you guys read the thread? This was discussed at length.

lordscarlet · 01-15-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I disagree. There are far better fathers out there in dramas.

I think we need to pause for a moment and let Dr. Sak clarify this. Looking at the picks, I think most players thought this was sitcom only. How else would you pick Homer Simpson over XXXX? Or Stewie over XXXXX? My two cents, but I think that most people still thought this was sitcoms only.

So you punish the people that were actually paying attention when Dr. Sak changed it?

Danny · 01-15-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Did you guys read the thread? This was discussed at length.

I skimmed after making my pick. I got home from work and got a PM that the draft had started and came in to my make my pick. I had no idea this was no TV family draft.

Danny · 01-15-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

So you punish the people that were actually paying attention when Dr. Sak changed it?

Maybe some of us were doing other things. The first post should have been updated if it was changed.

lordscarlet · 01-15-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Maybe some of us were doing other things. The first post should have been updated if it was changed.

The title of the thread was.

I can't really defend the situation here, but you can't change it at this point, I don't think. No matter what a group gets punished, and I don't think it should be the one that was paying attention to all the posts over the ones that just skimmed.

Personally I think Dr. Sak should have been more iron fisted and stuck to his original intentions (but you guys know I'm a jerk

), and barring that he should have updated the first post, but, ohwell.

We are where we are and this draft will still be a lot of fun.

Lathum · 01-15-2009, 08:02 PM

I really dont see what the issue is here.

If someone wants to pick a charecture from ER fuck it and let them. The voters will sort it out.

wade moore · 01-15-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I really dont see what the issue is here.

If someone wants to pick a charecture from ER fuck it and let them. The voters will sort it out.

I think the issue is more that some thought they were limited to Sitcom characters because of the original premise, but Dr. Sak opened it up to non-Sitcoms at some point. They were picking from a more limited list than the rest of us.

Maple Leafs · 01-15-2009, 08:05 PM

Personally, I'm going to use characters from all genres of TV to make an awesome sitcom family.

Maple Leafs · 01-15-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I think the issue is more that some thought they were limited to Sitcom characters because of the original premise, but Dr. Sak opened it up to non-Sitcoms at some point. They were picking from a more limited list than the rest of us.

It's a little odd that one of the guys complaining about us not sticking to a strict "sitcoms only!" rule used the #2 overall pick on a character who's not from a traditional sitcom.

Lathum · 01-15-2009, 08:06 PM

I thought I would have a chance to make my pick but I'll check in after dinner.

Danny · 01-15-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

The title of the thread was.

I can't really defend the situation here, but you can't change it at this point, I don't think. No matter what a group gets punished, and I don't think it should be the one that was paying attention to all the posts over the ones that just skimmed.

Personally I think Dr. Sak should have been more iron fisted and stuck to his original intentions (but you guys know I'm a jerk

), and barring that he should have updated the first post, but, ohwell.

We are where we are and this draft will still be a lot of fun.

It will still be fun, and I'm not too worried about it since Sak is nice enough to run this for us. I would have preferred it was just sitcoms to make it more challenging, I might still stick to that with my own picks anyway.

Maple Leafs · 01-15-2009, 08:08 PM

Jesus Christ, Tasan, if you don't pick right now I'm going to drive to your house and poo in your mailbox.

Tasan · 01-15-2009, 08:09 PM

2-3 Montgomery Burns/Bad Guy - This was a tough one. The Simpsons offers up so many avenues, but I felt it was best used in Villains, since sitcoms have so few. This also eliminates a few "out there" late choices for other categories, since the voice actor, Harry Shearer, does many other side voices on the Simpsons.

Danny · 01-15-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

It's a little odd that one of the guys complaining about us not sticking to a strict "sitcoms only!" rule used the #2 overall pick on a character who's not from a traditional sitcom.

I don't see how Family guy is not a sitcom. It's animated, but it's a sitcom

Raiders Army · 01-15-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

With the first pick in the Television Family Draft, Karl selects:

1.1 Mom-Lucy Ricardo, I Love Lucy

One of the biggest sit-coms of all time, Lucy was a shining light in the often dark wasteland that sit-com moms normally inhabit. She could pull off physical comedy, vaudeville nods, and musical comedy.

As hard as it was to choose, I felt this pick was necessary to take, because in the world of tv sit-coms, a good mom can be hard to find.

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Originally Posted by Danny

1.2 Stewie Grifiin - Bad Guy / Girl / Baby

Stewie is a great sitcom character and is the quintessential lovable villain. Plus now the other good characters from family guy and some from American dad can not be drafted, so I have the market cornered on those shows

. I chose Stewie over someone like Peter because in the dad category Peter is middle ground, but I feel Stewie is at the top of the villains. Plus, he is my favorite character on the show.

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Originally Posted by cartman

1.3 Archie Bunker - Dad

Perhaps the greatest character ever created for TV. He was much more than the gruff malcontent that so often came through. Most people have some part of the character that they can either strongly identify with or know someone just like him.

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

After careful consideration, and in going with a more modern theme, we here at team DeTox have determined that there is no better best friend to a lead character then ..

1.4: Arthur "The Fonz" Fonzereli [Best friend]

Who doen't know the Fonz?

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

1.5 Cliff Huxtable - Dad

Gotta go with Cliff, one of the funniest and most likeable dads in TV history. My favorite Cliff moment is in the first episode where he teaches Theo how to live like a regular person, using monopoly money as an example.

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

1.6 Alex P. Keaton (Michael J. Fox) - Brother
Alex epitomized the Reagan era and sprung Michael J. Fox onto the big screen in the Back to the Future movies.

It's sort of fitting that as the Cosby Show closes out with pick 1.5, Family Ties follows with pick 1.6.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

From his list Maple Leafs Selects:

1.7 Homer Simpson - Dad

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Originally Posted by Lathum

1.8- George Costanza- Best Friend

Best show ever.

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Dick Solomon, 3rd Rock from the Sun 1996 : Father

John Lithgow plays the commander of an alien survey team. While not actual relatives they take on the roles of a typical american family and the hilarity ensues. Lithgow is a comic genius and plays the campy Commander dorkmobile to the hilt.

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Originally Posted by Tasan

Okay i'm going with what I feel is a limited category with my first pick

1.10 Mr. Belvedere-Housekeeper/Butler/Nanny - He's the rock star of hired help. The show was named after him. How many of those are there? Plus, with a fairly poor supporting cast, he doesn't keep me out of many other good selections.

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Originally Posted by wade moore

1.11 Lassie - Pet - THE TV Pet. Lassie was on for 20 years and has since had various rebirths on TV and movies. Lassie loves her owners, saves lives, and to this day - many decades after her creation - is instantly recognizable by people of all ages.

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Originally Posted by Mustang

1.12 - Mom : June Cleaver, Leave it to Beaver.

2.1 - Bad Guy : Louis DePalma, Taxi.

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Originally Posted by wade moore

2.2 - Theo Huxtable - Brother - Like his father at the top of the 1st round, Theo is the model for his category. He was a well behaved son (most of the time), took care of his sisters, and gave Mom and Dad just enough of a hard time to create laughs. The scene mentioned above with Cliff and the fake money is possibly the most memorable Sitcom scene of all time, and it doesn't happen without Theo.

Picks so far. I have to say that I went back to page 2 of the thread and saw where Dr. Sak opened it up to all genres of television. I think the later picks got that but the beginning ones didn't. Needless to say, I don't have a problem with the draft so far but I also could understand anyone who has a problem with it being expanded beyond sitcoms due to the first post.

RendeR · 01-15-2009, 08:15 PM

I'm sticking with the sitcom theme. If the voters don't like it, tough.

2.4 Kelly Bundi, Married with Children, Sister Played by Christina Applegate

Do I really NEED a reason?

Raiders Army · 01-15-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

I'm sticking with the sitcom theme. If the voters don't like it, tough.

2.4 Kelly Bundi, Married with Children, Sister Played by Christina Applegate

Do I really NEED a reason?

Nice pick. I was gonna get her if she was still there....be that as it may, no sloppy seconds for me.

RendeR · 01-15-2009, 08:26 PM

with the alacrity of the picks thus far I doubt we'll get to 3.9 anytime soon. later gators.

Mustang · 01-15-2009, 08:34 PM

I remembered scanning the discussions on the sitcom discussion and thought to myself "How the f are we even discussing if a show like ER is a sitcom??"

I glossed over it and didn't think much of it.

Ah well.. that is my bad.

Danny · 01-15-2009, 08:36 PM

I think many if not most were not aware of the change. Still, I guess it doesn't matter. I'll likely be sticking with just sitcoms myself. The voters can decide in the end.

larrymcg421 · 01-15-2009, 08:40 PM

I didn't notice, but I would have picked Cliff anyways.

cartman · 01-15-2009, 08:48 PM

I missed the change as well. I looked back in the thread, and didn't see a post where it said we were abandoning sitcoms. I saw some where he said he didn't want only family-based sitcoms to be in the pool, rather sitcoms in general as the pool.

Dr. Sak · 01-15-2009, 08:53 PM

I started out wanting it to be a sitcom draft then Wade went off about how sitcoms are 30 minute shows. I didn't want someone to pick a character from say "The Office" as one example, where another poster has a shit fit because The Office is sometimes an hour. So I took away the sitcom thinking that it could be from shows that are an hour just so that there wasn't that argument.

Honestly I just wanted this to be a fun draft. I love TV, a lot of people here do too so I thought it would be a fun idea. Now I am remembering why I dont like these things.

Maple Leafs · 01-15-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

2.4 Kelly Bundi, Married with Children, Sister Played by Christina Applegate

Do I really NEED a reason?

No sir, you most certainly do not.

Danny · 01-15-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I started out wanting it to be a sitcom draft then Wade went off about how sitcoms are 30 minute shows. I didn't want someone to pick a character from say "The Office" as one example, where another poster has a shit fit because The Office is sometimes an hour. So I took away the sitcom thinking that it could be from shows that are an hour just so that there wasn't that argument.

Honestly I just wanted this to be a fun draft. I love TV, a lot of people here do too so I thought it would be a fun idea. Now I am remembering why I dont like these things.

I appreciate you running this. I didn't mean to make a big deal of it, was just surprised. I think most of us are sticking with the sitcom theme anyway.

Lathum · 01-15-2009, 08:58 PM

2.5 Father- Mike Brady

Buccaneer · 01-15-2009, 08:59 PM

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Now I am remembering why I dont like these things.

Lol. I love these things to death but the one thing from previous drafts is that it has to be clear and unambiguous. Still doesn't prevent anyone from pulling an Imagine but while voters have the final say, it has to be clear to the participants in order to have the interest to continue.

Dr. Sak · 01-15-2009, 08:59 PM

By the way...great thing happened in my class at the gym... we were doing dead lifts and the girl right next to me had her boob pop out. She didn't notice so I had to tell her...funny stuff!

Maple Leafs · 01-15-2009, 08:59 PM

Rules question: Is "wildcard" meant to be a free slot that lets you double up in one category, or is it meant to be somebody who doesn't fit neatly into any of the existing categories?

cartman · 01-15-2009, 09:00 PM

This is why we can't do fun things.

Goddamn it people, why do some folks have to make a simple thing so damn complicated. The first two lines of the original post laid out in very clear terms what this was supposed to be:

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Okay I'm a little bored and had some time on my hands so I decided to think up another draft to host on FOFC. There are a lot of TV Junkies on the board so I've decided to host a Sitcom Draft.

The rules are pretty simple, draft the best sitcom family, and see if the FOFC Community thinks that you have the best family. All judged by them.

The bolded parts are pretty damn simple and clear. A draft based off of sitcoms. The categories to draft were family members/friends/enemies/pets. Nowhere did it say only 30 minute sitcoms, nowhere did it say "limited to family based sitcoms".

wade moore · 01-15-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I appreciate you running this. I didn't mean to make a big deal of it, was just surprised. I think most of us are sticking with the sitcom theme anyway.

As long as the voters know it's not a sitcom draft, i'm fine with that. I specifically shifted my strategy when the label was changed.

Dr. Sak · 01-15-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Rules question: Is "wildcard" meant to be a free slot that lets you double up in one category, or is it meant to be somebody who doesn't fit neatly into any of the existing categories?

Someone who might not fit into a particular slot. I had a few other ideas for categories, but I didn't want to have too many.

Danny · 01-15-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

This is why we can't do fun things.

Goddamn it people, why do some folks have to make a simple thing so damn complicated. The first two lines of the original post laid out in very clear terms what this was supposed to be:

The bolded parts are pretty damn simple and clear. A draft based off of sitcoms. The categories to draft were family members/friends/enemies/pets. Nowhere did it say only 30 minute sitcoms, nowhere did it say "limited to family based sitcoms".

What we were referring to is that I guess on page 2 it was changed to all of television and not just sitcoms. I missed the whole arguing about 30m vs 60m shows, but I guess the result of that was the change.

cartman · 01-15-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

What we were referring to is that I guess on page 2 it was changed to all of television and not just sitcoms. I missed the whole arguing about 30m vs 60m shows, but I guess the result of that was the change.

I'm just incredibly curious where the confusion came in, when the ground rules were simple and to the point.

01-15-2009, 07:45 PM	#304
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I had thought of lasie, but then thinking about the specifics of the game I decided lassie wasn't a comedy so I left him off my list. I did think of a pet though and I'm doubting anyone else thinks of this one but I'll have to wait and see. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-15-2009, 07:47 PM	#306
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Oh...guess I missed that point. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-15-2009, 07:52 PM	#312
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I thought it was sitcom family draft too. Last edited by Danny : 01-15-2009 at 07:53 PM.

01-15-2009, 07:55 PM	#316
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	I'm here and I'm picking, just gimmie a second. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

01-15-2009, 08:05 PM	#324
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Personally, I'm going to use characters from all genres of TV to make an awesome sitcom family. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-15-2009, 07:50 PM	#310
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	dola, and if it's not a sitcom family draft, then Cliff Huxtable definitely isn't the first choice for Dad.

01-15-2009, 08:02 PM	#322
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I really dont see what the issue is here. If someone wants to pick a charecture from ER fuck it and let them. The voters will sort it out.

01-15-2009, 08:06 PM	#326
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I thought I would have a chance to make my pick but I'll check in after dinner.

01-15-2009, 08:08 PM	#328
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Jesus Christ, Tasan, if you don't pick right now I'm going to drive to your house and poo in your mailbox. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-15-2009, 08:09 PM	#329
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	2-3 Montgomery Burns/Bad Guy - This was a tough one. The Simpsons offers up so many avenues, but I felt it was best used in Villains, since sitcoms have so few. This also eliminates a few "out there" late choices for other categories, since the voice actor, Harry Shearer, does many other side voices on the Simpsons. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

01-15-2009, 08:15 PM	#332
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'm sticking with the sitcom theme. If the voters don't like it, tough. 2.4 Kelly Bundi, Married with Children, Sister Played by Christina Applegate Do I really NEED a reason? __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png Last edited by RendeR : 01-15-2009 at 08:15 PM.

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RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	with the alacrity of the picks thus far I doubt we'll get to 3.9 anytime soon. later gators. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-15-2009, 08:34 PM	#335
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	I remembered scanning the discussions on the sitcom discussion and thought to myself "How the f are we even discussing if a show like ER is a sitcom??" I glossed over it and didn't think much of it. Ah well.. that is my bad. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

01-15-2009, 08:36 PM	#336
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think many if not most were not aware of the change. Still, I guess it doesn't matter. I'll likely be sticking with just sitcoms myself. The voters can decide in the end.

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01-15-2009, 08:48 PM	#338
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I missed the change as well. I looked back in the thread, and didn't see a post where it said we were abandoning sitcoms. I saw some where he said he didn't want only family-based sitcoms to be in the pool, rather sitcoms in general as the pool. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-15-2009, 08:53 PM	#339
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I started out wanting it to be a sitcom draft then Wade went off about how sitcoms are 30 minute shows. I didn't want someone to pick a character from say "The Office" as one example, where another poster has a shit fit because The Office is sometimes an hour. So I took away the sitcom thinking that it could be from shows that are an hour just so that there wasn't that argument. Honestly I just wanted this to be a fun draft. I love TV, a lot of people here do too so I thought it would be a fun idea. Now I am remembering why I dont like these things.

01-15-2009, 08:58 PM	#342
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	2.5 Father- Mike Brady

01-15-2009, 08:59 PM	#344
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	By the way...great thing happened in my class at the gym... we were doing dead lifts and the girl right next to me had her boob pop out. She didn't notice so I had to tell her...funny stuff!

01-15-2009, 08:59 PM	#345
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Rules question: Is "wildcard" meant to be a free slot that lets you double up in one category, or is it meant to be somebody who doesn't fit neatly into any of the existing categories? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

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