NFL Week 1

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by saldana

sorry, but what exactly about this post is dumb....every single sport that directv carries for every single season EXCEPT this football season has been a 'free preview' since the beginning of the existence of satellite TV.

lol...you MUST be a Democrat.


Edit: Not meant to be a vicious flame, but a joking reference to the common Dem platform that often includes handouts to the less fortunate and "sometimes" the ones who want to "act" less fortunate to get free shit. Dems are free to fire back that I no doubt want to blast the Middle East into a parking lot.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Noble_Platypus

Fuck you too Molson. Pats and Pats fans are asshole, which if I am correct you are one. I am not surprised that a arrogant prick like you all of the sudden has the nerve to call other people names when your golden boy gets hurt.

Wow.

[Karlifornia]

I found a picture of Noble_Platypus hanging out with his friends from the "What The Hell Do You Look Like?" thread:

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

$45 for a single game is just nuts, relative to the overall price tag. It is hard for me to believe that anyone would ever purchase single games, rather than just going to a bar or over to a friend's house who has the ticket.

Yeah, that part of what saldana said is on the mark. $45 for one game, and not even HD, is crazy.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

I found a picture of Noble_Platypus hanging out with his friends from the "What The Hell Do You Look Like?" thread:

Now that is some funny shit right there! LOL

[DeToxRox]

NoblePlatypus girlfriend must've typed "OH TOM" once when they were having sex.

[Sublime 2]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wow.

ditto.

[Raiders Army]

I'm sorry but I don't see where a single game costs $45.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

NoblePlatypus girlfriend must've typed "OH TOM" once when they were having sex.

awesome

[M GO BLUE!!!]

The Lions suck bad enough that Ford might just give Millen a raise.

[Raiders Army]

The only thing I see is:

Order NFL SUNDAY TICKET™ for only $289.95 (or 5 payments of $57.99 each). Add SuperFan® to NFL SUNDAY TICKET™ for only $99 (or 4 payments of just $24.75).

And come on. It's $17.06 a week to get the Ticket. I'd have to ask my wife, but normally returning customers get a discount. Last year we got the SuperFan package for free. Again, I'd have to ask my wife but I'd guess that we could get that for free as well.

The Sunday Ticket way back when is not the same Sunday Ticket that you get today. The Red Zone Channel, Short Cuts, etc. make the price increases worth it.

[PilotMan]

I don't know which was better today. The Steelers winning how they did or seeing the Bengals losing how they did.

[Jas_lov]

I bashed the Bears the entire offseason and now look at them. Forte looks good and Indy's offense got stalled in the redzone twice.

[Neuqua]

Safety for the Bears, woot!

[miami_fan]

So is anyone actually watching the Colts-Bears game? The AFC powers not looking so dominant coming out of the gates.

[Raiders Army]

Was there just a safety? I can't get the game.

[Raiders Army]

I can't get NBC. I moved to the country and I'm gonna eat a lot of peaches.

[Tigercat]

Jeff Garcia looks 60 now. Seriously. I just watched the post game press conference and he looks older than my dad, who is 60.

I guess being 6-0 190 and taking QB hits for years is a rough way to live life.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Was there just a safety? I can't get the game.

yes

[molson]

Originally Posted by Cringer

But Peter King made it seem like people were in mourning over it and the NFL would be severely hurt by it. To me that is how he made it sound. To me that is overdoing it.

That's definitely overdoing it. The NFL season, as always, will be the most entertaining North American sports league season. Brady ain't that important. In fact, the Pats season just got about a billion times more interesting.

The passion, both insanely positive and venomously negative about this franchise is amazing. it's exhausting. I've been a fan since Zeke Mowatt showed Lisa Olson his wang. Maybe it will be nice to have an NFL season without them on the forefront.

[Tasan]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

I don't know which was better today. The Steelers winning how they did or seeing the Bengals losing how they did.

Dude. The Steelers did what they did against the Texans. The TEXANS. Do NOT get too hyped about it. Tune in next week before setting hopes/dreams/expectations. I live in the armpit of Texas and get an upclose look at this joke of a team. Its not worth getting worked up about. They could have dropped 100 on them and I don't think I'd have been too amazed by it.

[Fighter of Foo]

Originally Posted by Matthean

But who was going to be their QB? Finding a credible DT is easier than a QB. The QB has a vastly bigger impact on a team's success than a DT does. If you have a NFL ready QB sitting there in the 3 spot and you had the year the Falcons did, you take him no questions asked. Ryan is also going to be a hell of a lot easier sell as the face of the franchise than Dorsey, and since they needed one...

Well Redman could play this year for starters. Second, there were guys available later on who were rated only slightly lower than Ryan (Flacco, Henne, Brohm). Lastly and most importantly, there are many, many QBs taken high in the draft who failed, not so for DTs. Because of the amount of $$$ top picks are paid, you have to be risk averse there and the Falcons weren't.

The face of the franchise thing is BS. Win games and you'll sell jerseys. Lose and no one will care.

I hope Ryan is the best Falcon ever, but it was still the wrong pick.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by Tasan

Dude. The Steelers did what they did against the Texans. The TEXANS. Do NOT get too hyped about it. Tune in next week before setting hopes/dreams/expectations. I live in the armpit of Texas and get an upclose look at this joke of a team. Its not worth getting worked up about. They could have dropped 100 on them and I don't think I'd have been too amazed by it.

A W is a W is a W, especially for the team with the hardest schedule in the NFL this year.

[molson]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I'm a Michigan fan, and I love Brady, I will not lie. But for a guy who could've been so anti UM for how he was handled there, he has been nothing but great, showing up at fundraisers at the school, and the like.

He's a bad ass.

It's amazing how you can be so smart in the sports threads and yet so clueless in the political threads.

[Galaxy]

Forte looks really good, especially behind an average, old line.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

A W is a W is a W, especially for the team with the hardest schedule in the NFL this year.

What hardest schedule? The teams they play are a combined 7-9.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by molson

Wow. I think maybe you just need to get laid. Good luck with that. I mean that sincerely, you clearly have a lot of built-up, jealous anger. Porn might be a short-term fix for you if you have trouble with the ladies. You can find porn on the internet.

lol

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Sad may be too strong of a word but I don't think rival fans will be as happy as you may think. I mean, I hate the Pats but I have great respect for Brady. I can't say I have any joy with him being hurt for the season especially with a knee injury.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

lol...you MUST be a Democrat.


Edit: Not meant to be a vicious flame, but a joking reference to the common Dem platform that often includes handouts to the less fortunate and "sometimes" the ones who want to "act" less fortunate to get free shit. Dems are free to fire back that I no doubt want to blast the Middle East into a parking lot.

Only if I can add that said parking lot will obviously be used for a brand new Walmart.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by molson

In fact, the Pats season just got about a billion times more interesting.

Agreed. I'm very interested to see what kind of season Moss can have without Brady, and how well he behaves with a less experienced QB at the helm.

[Groundhog]

I sorta hope the Pats have a 12-4 season and Cassell leads the league in throwing yards and TDs.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

I sorta hope the Pats have a 12-4 season and Cassell leads the league in throwing yards and TDs.

lemme guess, you picked up cassel in you fantasy league.

[Arles]

Man, am I actually going to have to face the idea that the Bears may be good this season? Unfortunately, it looks like this is the case

Also, that's a terrible break for Pats fans. I always liked Cassell when he was at USC (saw some interviews with him out here in Pac-10 land). Hopefully, he does OK.

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by Lathum

lemme guess, you picked up cassel in you fantasy league.

Nah, it'd just take some shine off Brady.

[LionsFan10]

The Bears all but crush the Indianapolis Colts in the season opener, probably one of the largest upsets this Sunday, and there's nary a mention here?

Forte looks like a beast so far, lets hope he keeps it up. I really like him.

[Radii]

I'm setting myself up to get called a douchebag by everyone here, but /shrug, here goes.

Injuries are part of football. Teams that suffer the most injuries struggle a lot, teams that suffer injuries to key players struggle like hell to overcome. There's a difference to me between rooting for a specific individual human to experience suffering, and being happy that a team you dislike has to deal with an injury.

For a few years, every time Carolina and Atlanta played, I wanted to see Julius Peppers knock Michael Vick out. I rooted heavily against Vick, didn't like that Carolina struggled against Atlanta, and hated that Vick scrambled and ran wild and would have been genuinely pleased had my team been the one to catch up to him and lay a (legal) legit hit on Vick that simply took him out for awhile.

Also, the notion of wanting to beat a team at their best is horseshit to me. I want my team to win, and I want teams that I dislike to lose. Carolina has had ridiculous QB/RB injury issues the last few seasons, but its no excuse for losing to me. They faced adversity, and failed to rise above it. A win is a win, a title is a title, and that's all that matters.

Molson mentioned something earlier about whether, if you had the ability/choice, would you personally cause injury to Brady(or anyone). No, i wouldn't, not at all. But since injuries are part of the game, I hope teams I dislike suffer more injuries than teams I like. For various reasons, I root against the Patriots, therefore, to me its a good thing to see them facing more adversity than any other team at a key position right now. I'm not specifically glad Tom Brady is hurt, but I'm glad the Patriots have to deal with losing a key player because that makes it more difficult for them to win.

I don't see why this attitude is considered douchebaggery by anyone, honestly.

[Ragone]

You all realize Tom Brady wouldn't have been hurt if Sammy Morris hadn't hogtied Pollard on the blitz.. basically forcing him to the ground as he was nearing brady

I was wondering where the holding flag was.. i'm betting pollard gets fined instead..

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Izulde

....Brady's hurt?

....Heh. He's my starting QB in fantasy football, with Aaron Rodgers my backup.

Want to throw some more lightning bolts at my head today, football gods?

Rodgers will be just fine.. I don't know why everyone thinks he is doomed.

[Ragone]

Oh, and i'm sure this will be a excuse for belichick to put Brady back on the injured list for next weeks game

Probable - Brady(Acl tear)

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Ragone

You all realize Tom Brady wouldn't have been hurt if Sammy Morris hadn't hogtied Pollard on the blitz.. basically forcing him to the ground as he was nearing brady

I was wondering where the holding flag was.. i'm betting pollard gets fined instead..

Calling holding is not a point of emphasis for officials.

[Dr. Sak]

First Tiger...now Tom Brady... I guess the Super Bowl will have no meaning since Brady will be injured for it.

[SirFozzie]

Well, Brady's been like Iron Man the last few years, we were due for this.. going to be an interesting year. :?

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by Ragone

You all realize Tom Brady wouldn't have been hurt if Sammy Morris hadn't hogtied Pollard on the blitz.. basically forcing him to the ground as he was nearing brady

I was wondering where the holding flag was.. i'm betting pollard gets fined instead..

Thanks for the clarification. Now was anyone calling it a dirty play? I know I said I was annoyed I was going to have to deal with idiots calling it such, but miraculously by and large it does not seem to have afflicted this board.

[Butter]

With the Bengals playing that badly, I am looking over the schedule and I see about 3 wins. That's 3, if Carson & Co. can't get it together... and I don't see why they can. Even if they can, it's probably like 6-10. Ugh. Horrible opening.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Fighter of Foo

Lastly and most importantly, there are many, many QBs taken high in the draft who failed, not so for DTs. Because of the amount of $$$ top picks are paid, you have to be risk averse there and the Falcons weren't.

There are not a long list of DTs that have busted?

Ill give you that generally a bust DT/DE picked early can have a long average spot play career, where as a bust QB usually is out of the league - but lets not say that there is not a very long list of bust DT/DE taken early.

[Draft Dodger]

Maybe it's my flying elvis tinted glasses, but I personally think that if there's a team that could lose a Tom Brady and still succeed, it's the Pats.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by LionsFan10

The Bears all but crush the Indianapolis Colts in the season opener, probably one of the largest upsets this Sunday, and there's nary a mention here?

Forte looks like a beast so far, lets hope he keeps it up. I really like him.

I don't buy it right now. I won't write them off like I would have before, but that wasn't a full strength Colts team. Manning hasn't done anything up until this game, Addai and Clark leave the game, Harrison hasn't player since last year. And the most important, C Jeff Saturday. You lose Saturday against an experienced D like Chicago and replace him with a rookie, that is a bad thing....

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

Maybe it's my flying elvis tinted glasses, but I personally think that if there's a team that could lose a Tom Brady and still succeed, it's the Pats.

Yes, I agree. I'm not saying Brady isn't a great QB - he is. But they have a number of very good pieces.

[CU Tiger]

Just because I was curious
Quick breakdown of QB VS DT/DE top 10 picks sonce 1990


1990
1 - Jeff George QB
3 - Cortez Kennedy DT
4 - Keith McCants DE
7 - Andre Ware QB
11 - Ray Agnew DE

1991
1 - Russel Maryland DT
6 - Eric Swann DE

1992
1 - Steve Emtman DE
3 - Sean Gilbert DT
6 - David Klingler QB

1993
1 - Drew Bledsoe QB
2 - Rick Mirer QB
5 - John Copeland DE
6 - Eric Curry DE

1994
1 - Dan Wilkinson DT
3 - Heath Shuler QB
6 - Trent Dilfer QB
7 - Bryant Young DT
8 - Sam Adams DE

1995
3 - Steve McNair QB
5 - Kerry Collins QB
6 - Kevin Carter DE
7 - Mike Mamula DE

1996
3 - Simeon Rice DE
5 - Cedric Jones DE

1997
2 - Darrel Russel DE

1998
1 - Peyton Manning QB
2 - Ryan Leaf QB
3 - Andre Wadsworth DE
6 - Grant Winstrom DE
8 - Greg Ellis DE

1999
1 - Tim Couch QB
2 - Donavan McNabb QB
3 - Akili Smith QB

2000
1 - Courtney Brown DE
6 - Corey Simon DT

2001
1 - Mike Vick QB
3 - Gerard Warren DT
4 - Justin Smith DE
6 - Richard Seymour DT
7 - Andre Carter DE
10 - Jamaal Reynolds DE

2002
1 - David Carr QB
2 - Julius Peppers DE
3 - Joey Harrington QB
4 - Ryan Sims DT
9 - John Henderson DT

2003
1 - Carson Palmer QB
4 - Dewayne Robertson DT
6 - Jonathan Sullivan DT
7 - Byron Leftwich QB
9 - Kevin Williams DE

2004
1 - Eli Manning QB
4 - Phillip Rivers QB

2005
1 - Alex Smith QB

2006
1 - Mario Williams
3 - Vince Young QB
10 - Matt Leinhart QB

2007
1 - JaMarcus Russell QB
4 - Gaines Adams DE
8 - Jamaal Anderson DE
10 - Amobi Okoye DT



On many of these succeed vbbersus bust is subjective....Im just throwingthe list out there. Id say it is no more of a safe bet to take a DT Top Ten than it is to take a QB

[ISiddiqui]

Yep, I think people forget about a lot of the high draft pick DT busts there have been. Then again, it isn't as obvious as when a QB pick busts.