The FOFC Historical Person Draft Thread (Draft Underway!)

[Racer]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Thanks.

I might actually do fairly well this time, since you of all people is liking my draft.

Though admittedly, Ancient is going to be a nasty time period now, with most of the heavyweights out of the picture, but I still have a few names, I think.

I had one other high up on my list when I drafted. I'm interested to see where the person goes.

[AENeuman]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

He's typically listed in the top 3 of all time along with Alexander and Genghis, but there are many opinions.

I don't know much, but is Nap really up there with Alex and Genghis? Those guys introduced a different style of fighting and their rule far extended their lives. Nap seem to be the last great of an old-style of fighting. A style of which lost him Russia and Waterloo, not to mention Trafalgar.

Now historically speaking great pick, definitely top 3 most known generals. I just think he is more well known for his loses than his wins

[Barkeep49]

I think Napoleon is clearly a top 3 in the Military category. Given the structure of the draft, I think it's a great pick. I think he introduced many innovations that last to this day (canning and his code of laws foremost among them) and is not just known for his losses.

[ColtCrazy]

Okay, I'm back...let me catch up.

[ColtCrazy]

3.10 Ramesses II - Ruler/Diplomat - Ancient Times

I had some other leaders on my board, but Ancient Times is getting thinner, and this is a strong one that is left. Definitely one of Egypt's most influential pharaohs.

[larrymcg421]

3.11 - Joan of Arc, Renaissance, Women

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

3.11 - Joan of Arc, Renaissance, Women

Damn.

Good pick.

Shit.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

3.11 - Joan of Arc, Renaissance, Women

Good pick. I considered taking her, but felt that she was more Middle Ages than Renaissance in outlook, and so because of how CR has framed the time periods passed.

[Barkeep49]

DOLA: That came off as more critical than I meant. I think she's a great pick and certainly one of the top woman in history.

[Buccaneer]

And Ramesses was the other one I wrote up. Imo, the greatest ruler of the ancient times.

[ColtCrazy]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

3.11 - Joan of Arc, Renaissance, Women

Nice pick, it was her or Ramesses for me...should have went with the bigger name first. Excellent choice.

[larrymcg421]

Yeah, I just went by the years listed for each category. She could only be considered renaissance based on that criteria.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

3.7 Napoleon Bonaparte - 1800s, Military

Damn it. Great choice.

[Noop]

3.12 Joseph Stalin - WWII (1939) -1950s, Evil Historical Person

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Noop

3.12 Joseph Stalin - WWII (1939) -1950s, Evil Historical Person

His evil is certainly underrated when compared to Hitler. Excellent choice and one I was hoping would slip to me in Round 4.

[Noop]

4.1 Saladin - Middle Age - Military Leader

[Noop]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

His evil is certainly underrated when compared to Hitler. Excellent choice and one I was hoping would slip to me in Round 4.

I was hoping to use him later in the draft but a few of the picks I valued more then him came off the board.

[larrymcg421]

4.2 - Hannibal, Military Leader, Classical

[Noop]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

4.2 - Hannibal, Military Leader, Classical

He was on my list but I believe I already used a classical though.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

4.2 - Hannibal, Military Leader, Classical

Solid choice, if a bit high.

[ColtCrazy]

4.3 - Charlemagne - Military Leader - Middle Ages

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

4.3 - Charlemagne - Military Leader - Middle Ages

DAmn you man, DAMn you.....

[ColtCrazy]

I almost made a different pick, but I didn't figure there was any way in hell he was making it back around. Too good of a military man.

You got my Mother Teresa yesterday....we need to stay away from the other one's list!

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

I almost made a different pick, but I didn't figure there was any way in hell he was making it back around. Too good of a military man.

You got my Mother Teresa yesterday....we need to stay away from the other one's list!

indeed, ok where's danny?? =)

[Buccaneer]

Hitler and Stalin were obviously the top 2 baddies but I blew Stalin off when I went with Einstein.

[Danny]

Im here, about to make my pick

[Danny]

4.4 Ludwig van Beethoven- Musical, 1800's

[RendeR]

nice pick, solid. I'm liking things so far. My next top choice doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar yet.

[Buccaneer]

Who's here to post Izulde's list??

[Danny]

Apparently my Oprah pick wasn't too popular, but she was in my opinion the top candidate from the 2000-present era and a good choice for the cultural icon category. Perhaps not the ideal audience for her here, but she has had a huge influence on the world, on African Americans and on women.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Danny

Apparently my Oprah pick wasn't too popular, but she was in my opinion the top candidate from the 2000-present era and a good choice for the cultural icon category. Perhaps not the ideal audience for her here, but she has had a huge influence on the world, on African Americans and on women.

Seriously, she would have been my 4th rd pick because historically speaking, 2000s is going to be tough.

[Noop]

There are at least two people better then Oprah if not three. It was a solid pick none the less.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Noop

There are at least two people better then Oprah if not three. It was a solid pick none the less.

For women in the 2000s?

[Racer]

Originally Posted by Danny

Ludwig van Beethoven- Musical, 1800's

You probably want to bold that and put the pick number on it. Otherwise the next person might not realize it's your pick.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Racer

You probably want to bold that and put the pick number on it. Otherwise the next person might not realize it's your pick.

Oops, I was going to edit, but I had werewolf on the brain .

[Buccaneer]

Sigh. Can someone get a hold of olie? We have several picks ready to go right after Izulde.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

For women in the 2000s?

Well if its the 2000s then definitely two.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Noop

Well if its the 2000s then definitely two.

Yeah, I know of one that will be a great pick but nothing beyond that.

[Danny]

I think Cultural Icon is a role for more recent people. In the past there wasn't the same ability to communicate and interact amongst cultures as there is now, but any cultural icon would have been more limited.

[RendeR]

I have a question for the moderators:

IF the thing a person is credited with/known for spans a much loinger time than when they lived are we limited to the times they were alive or could we use them in any time that their creation existed?


Edit: For example, someone already selected Walt Disney, could he have been used in the 2000-2008 category as well since his iconic creation still exists today?

[Danny]

I would hope not, the effects from all these people are still exist today.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I have a question for the moderators:

IF the thing a person is credited with/known for spans a much loinger time than when they lived are we limited to the times they were alive or could we use them in any time that their creation existed?


Edit: For example, someone already selected Walt Disney, could he have been used in the 2000-2008 category as well since his iconic creation still exists today?

One can put a person in any age within that persons' lifetime. It would be up to the voters whether one chose the best one.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Danny

I hope hope not, the effects from all these people are still exist today.

yes but there are some things, like Disney in the example, that BECAME much larger cultural icons (in his case) long after he was dead.


I don;t want to bring up other examples because we're still picking, but i wanted to get a clarification.

[spleen1015]

Wasn't the purpose of picking a 'During the Day' moderator to have someone who was available to handle lists during the day when Chief isn't available?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

One can put a person in any age within that persons' lifetime. It would be up to the voters whether one chose the best one.

Ok, only during the time they lived. Got it.

[Buccaneer]

Well, we know that Izulde will be back in an hour or so. I'll check in then.

[RendeR]

I hate waiting =)

[oliegirl]

I'm here...I have Izulde's list...you guys waited less than an hour, quit whining

I sent Render's question to Chief, will post answer as soon as he replies...

[oliegirl]

Izulde's pick:

4.5 - Babe Ruth - Sports Figure - Pre-WWII 20th cent (1901-1939)

The Sultan of Swat. The Great Bambino. Paunchy, popular, mythic. The man who, perhaps more than any other single individual in the history of the sport, changed baseball fundamentally and forever. He was more than a brilliant, game-altering player; he was oneof the first sport celebrities and his name echoes today as one of the great American cultural literacies.

Heroes are always remembered. Legends never die.

[RendeR]

Nice pick, considered him myself.