04-01-2009, 08:25 AM | #251 |
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I meant Memphis...and it was a joke in the "day late, dollar short" category.
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That's pretty much it. The third party firms contact coaches' agents and float openings and numbers, so there is little to no egg on either party's face if there is little/no interest.
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Am I crazy or would Billy Gillispie actually be a pretty good hire for Memphis now?
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I got the joke. I'm a Chiefs fan who enjoys Bronco pain in any form. Just was clarifying that the AD wasn't the one that mentioned that Memphis showed up late to the party. Last edited by Mizzou B-ball fan : 04-01-2009 at 08:40 AM. |
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To be fair, unlike the NFL, there are no restrictions on coach movement, and no requirement to request permission. This is done merely as a courtesy, and these days a joke of one at that, being done after the deal has been reached.
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04-01-2009, 08:50 AM | #257 |
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You need to give up the comedy routine and get back to your full-time job as the president of the Jaime Dixon fan club. |
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Yeah... My point was just that even that courtesy is rarely practiced anymore. Nowadays, these deals are largely completed behind the scenes before there is commitment. |
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I mentioned this on the Memphis board. There is no doubt he would coach with a chip on his shoulder. He knows the game, can recruit well, and would keep the program going. The hot rumor right now is Bruce Pearl.
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I would imagine they put fillers out to a handful coaches around the new year or so.
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Mike DeCourcey discussed the almost impossible task that the next Memphis head coach faces........
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I think the Memphis fans greatly overestimate what their program is at this moment. Calipari needed a good stepping stone after the NBA mess and found it in what was a good Conference USA at the time. It was lightning in a bottle for that program. It's now a coaching position in a weak conference with no competition whatsoever. If Memphis moved to a better conference, they would do well. Right now, they're stuck. |
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Who knows? Maybe he does not want to be at a football school. He also would get a pretty fat contract. Memphis boosters don't want the train to derail. They offered Cal $7 mil a year and rumored to be willing to spend just as much to get the right coach.
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That's fine if they want to roll out the money truck to get a coach, but you better get someone better than Bruce Pearl if you're going to pay one of the highest coaching salaries in the nation. I can only think of 3-5 head coaches that would warrant that kind of salary. I'm also sure that none of them are interested in the Memphis job. |
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DISCLAIMER: I'm a Vols fan. But I'm pretty much with Mizzou here. *IF* they rolled out $7mil for Pearl, yeah, I can see him making the jump. I can't see them doing that for Pearl. What has Pearl proven? He did great with UW-Milwaukee in one tourney. Ok, good. He did well with UT that had a stud guard for a few years that he inherited. Ok, good. He can be "competitive" in the SEC with his own players. Alrighty then. Don't get me wrong. I like Pearl. But he's done nothing imo to show he deserves $7mil.
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If he took the job I'd say his odds of getting out of Knoxville alive would be slightly more than 50-50. But the real reason I doubt that rumor has much behind it is that Memphis is operates under the auspices of the Tenn. Board of Regents (and presumably the legislature for funding) and I don't see them taking the loss of a coach within the system well at all. Painting that sort of bullseye on the university forehead during a time of budget cuts would be downright insane. And anybody that thinks that wouldn't lead to them losing funding on the education side doesn't know how the state feels about UT-Knoxville.
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I'm SOOOOO happy for Mike Anderson and Missouri.. excellent news!!!
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04-01-2009, 01:22 PM | #273 |
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I just heard that the Arizona AD has decided on a coach and a presser will be made tomorrow. The coach in question has agreed to head up Arizona and they are finalizing the terms of the contract. The person who told me this said he's 90% sure it's not Pitino and his money is on Few or Caple. He said that Livengood (Arizona's AD) has only allowed a few staffers to know the name and none of them are talking. We should know in the next 24 hours.
I still think Few or Caple is a longshoot, but who knows. That certainly would be better than the Randy Bennett, Mark Fox, Buzz Williams craziness I was hearing yesterday on some blogs. Last edited by Arles : 04-01-2009 at 01:22 PM. |
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If its this quick, it has to be Few, no? The top tier of their wish list has long been reported to have only that one name on it.
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The Big 12 rumor mill is buzzing that it is Capel to Arizona, and much like Evans at Memphis, after the official announcement is made Blake Griffin will announce he's declaring for the draft.
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At which point the UGA list probably turns into one that includes Lon Kreuger (which might actually get even the lukewarm UGA fan base to storm the AD's office looking for somebody's head), Tim Floyd, Ed DeChellis, Scott Drew, Oliver Purnell (why on earth would he leave Clemson for this job?), Sean Miller of Xavier, Brad Stevens of Butler and Brian Gregory of Dayton. I guess Gillespie and Pennell might both be considered at some point too. I thought this little comment in the AJC beat writer's blog was kind of odd thought, after talking about names they're considering he says Some they aren’t: Miami’s Frank Haith and FSU’s Leonard Hamilton. Have those guys recently said something about not leaving their respective schools or something? I hadn't heard either name even whispered in connection to the Georgia job until they were singled out in the column as people not being considered and it kind of struck me odd.
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At this point, why don't they just hire Bob Knight? If I recall correctly, he was reported to have said he would be interested if contacted. Let him coach the team for 3-4 years and, most likely, the program is in a better position to hire someone long-term then. |
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I think my across-the-street neighbor (univ. pres. Adams) would have himself boiled in oil before that happened. And make no mistake, he's running the show on the hiring, the AD is (and was hired to be) his lap dog.
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Now, the hot name for Arizona is Tim Floyd from USC. I'm not sure what's going on but this coach search is beginning to resemble the keystone cops. I'm thinking at this point it's going to be Floyd or Few, but who really knows. As an Arizona fan/alumn, Livengood (and the University) deserves the beating that Seth Davis, Katz, ESPN and other sources are giving right now. He's made this whole system a complete mess and there's a good chance Arizona basketball will be severely damaged if this hire doesn't come through well.
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I wonder if Floyd would leave USC for Arizona. I know Arizona's past history is better, but he has steadily improved USC's recruiting and performance and LA isn't a bad place to live when you have the money for it. |
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Sounds like it's going to be Floyd and he may be bringing two McDonalds All Americans with him. All in all, not a bad hire - especially with the crazy Kruger, Buzz Williams, Mark Fox, Randy Bennett rumors that were really scaring me.
Floyd can recruit and has been a pretty strong coach on the court as well. It's not Pitino, but he seems like the best of who's available. |
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Seems like a good plan. See who has a top recruiting class, fire your coach, hire the coach with the top recruiting class, get all those players to transfer/sign to come with the new coach.
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To be fair, Arizona announced they were looking for a coach back in October and lost recruits over it. This isn't like Kentucky basically raping Memphis the second the season ended.
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Sounds good to me. Rivals currently ranks Georgia Tech as #5, so USC certainly has my blessing to take the whole class as long as they take Paul Hewitt with them.
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One more point, one of the recruits who would come with Floyd (Solomon Hill) actually committed to Arizona in the fall, backed out when Lute retired and then committed to USC. Kind of a weird situation if he ends up coming back to Arizona.
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I am not saying that Arizona is wrong at all. It is just an observation really. Oh yeah and how much of a joke the system in general is.
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Can't argue with you there. Each job is basically a stepping stone for the elite programs (Kentucky, UCLA, UNC) and everyone else is just a rung on a big ladder leading to them.
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I would imagine that, if any of USC's recruits had signed LOIs, they would not release them, but only with the provision that they do not sign with another Pac 10 school. That could get interesting.
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Word on the USC message board is that Floyd to Arizona is a done deal. Arizona just offered more money than USC was willing to match. Very disappointing unless they go after a big name who can coach.
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Sounds official:
Report: USC coach Tim Floyd to Arizona - ESPN According to rivals.com, 3 of USC's 5 recruits have not signed a Letter of Intent: USC Commit List for 2009 That means that Hill, Sidney and Evan Smith could follow Floyd to Arizona. |
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As an Arizona fan, I will gladly take Floyd at Arizona and Dixon at USC over Kruger/Fox/Bennett at Arizona and Floyd at USC.
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I dont think Arizona can afford to take a solid coach over someone with some unknown. I'm not on the Capel bandwagon like you against Arles, but Floyd is one step ahead of sanctions
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You are welcome to Sidney. We already dodged one time bomb with Mayo, I don't want another one ticking with Renardo on campus, no matter how good he is. Evan Smith is nothing, I don't think Arizona would even really want him. I don't think SC were going to offer him a scholarship, he'd be more of a walkon if Scout is to be believed. I will be sad to see Hill go who should be a really good player. I wonder if Dwayne Polee Jr. is now going to Arizona in 2023 or whenever he is old enough
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I'm slightly worried as a Pitt student, but if he didn't take the Zona job (they had to of at least checked with him first before going to Floyd) then I don't think he'd take the USC job. Maybe if they really load up on the $$ he'll jump but I think/hope he stays. Sean Miller wouldn't be a bad replacement at Pitt, but you don't want the winningest coach through their first 6 seasons to leave. Ever. |
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Well, Dixon wants to be in LA because of his father. I still don't think he's going anywhere, but the Arizona job didn't have that going for it. And SC won't load up on the $$ for basketball, at least not to the level that Pitt will be willing to.
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I will be stunned if Sidney plays one minute of college.
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Why do you insist on downplaying the success of other programs. Yesterday it was Texas and before that it was Memphis. Now you're back harping on Memphis. I would think you'd have a bit more respect for Conference USA given that your current head coach learned his trade there. I'm not going to suggest Conference USA is a power conference, but they have had some pretty good teams in recent years. Memphis did dominate Conference USA, but they've also beaten a number of BCS conference schools in their non-conference schedule. Give credit to Memphis for making a great hire in Calipari and giving him the facilities he needed to succeed. The Tigers were just as competitive as any top flight BCS conference program in recent years.
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A great hire by Arizona. I actually like the Floyd hire better than the rumored hiring of Capel. Floyd is a proven coach who has had success at every stop in college. Capel is a good up and coming coach, but Floyd is a proven commodity...something the Wildcats sorely needed to get back into the Pac 10 race immediately.
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As far as the initial comment, "stealing" recruits, how is AZ any different than UK? They're not.
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