06-29-2008, 12:08 PM | #201 |
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Got to feel for the other guy. More likely that he was in the do category rather than don't.
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06-29-2008, 12:17 PM | #202 |
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It said the two guys went out of the park to get some lunch. I doubt it very seriously. Most likely they went off park to smoke their lunch. It makes sense. Doesn't really excuse the stupidity of his actions but I'm just saying.
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06-29-2008, 12:34 PM | #203 |
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Family will get a couple hundred grand. Some lawyer will convince them it was the park's fault, they'll threaten to sue, and the park will offer a settlement to keep the case from going to trial, in the expectation that people will forget the two incidents that have happened on this ride if they aren't reminded of it when the case comes to trial in May 2009. Last edited by Shkspr : 06-29-2008 at 12:35 PM. |
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If you mean potential jurors, why would it matter if they remembered or not? In each case, the "victim" was clearly at fault, and either a jury is going to disregard that fact & hand out undeserved cash or they're going to tell the profiteering plaintiffs to go jump. If you mean park patrons in general, damned if I imagine this is going to dissuade anyone from going to the park.
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06-29-2008, 12:55 PM | #205 |
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I think I recall seeing somewhere that six flags is denying any liability in the suit where the girl almost lost her legs so they may fight this.
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06-29-2008, 01:01 PM | #206 | |
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This case is a slam dunk. The other case is a bit more problematic since it was a park worker who was involved.
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06-29-2008, 01:09 PM | #207 | |
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I think it will dissuade the people who only read the headlines instead of the actual story. |
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06-29-2008, 01:13 PM | #208 |
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Devil's Advocate/Ass-hole lawyer angle: The ride, by design, swings cars and people on the outside of a track. If the park had invested a modest sum, they could encapsulate the entire flight path of the car with a roll cage type design that would not only have prevented 2 deaths but would also serve to protect riders from the actions of others on the ground. Clearly the park is more concerned about saving a few dollars than protecting its patrons.
I dont believe that POV for a second, Im just saying it will be presented. That said, it wasnt a bright move, but not necessarily Darwin award stupid either. I can almost see myself at say 15 pulling something similar to get a laugh... Last edited by CU Tiger : 06-29-2008 at 01:14 PM. |
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I call it Darwin stupid.
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06-29-2008, 01:28 PM | #210 |
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Granted, the kid lost his head, but you guys are being pretty tough on him.
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I'm skeptical that the headline, "Jury Selection Begins in Theme Park Decapitation Trial", ideally timed at the beginning of theme-park going season, will have no effect on park attendance. At the very least, it'll cost money for the park to offset the publicity with positive spin. |
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06-29-2008, 05:20 PM | #213 | |
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Although there's at least some hope that the family isn't going to try to cash in on their offspring's stupidity ("We're awaiting the results of the investigation. We're going to have someone investigate, too," his father said. "We're not blaming the park." ... the root of the problem is still pretty evident to me.
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He scaled two fences into a secure area. That's "wrong" whether he gets his fool head knocked off or not. Either this guy is still in denial or his genetic contribution is in part to blame for his son's death.
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06-29-2008, 05:24 PM | #214 | |
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No way this would ever get to a jury trial even if the kid's family wanted to fight it to the end, the park would win a motion to dismiss. MAYBE they pay funeral costs or something, no way there's any kind of real settlement here. |
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06-29-2008, 05:51 PM | #215 |
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Unfortunately, it isn't against the law to be stupid. I'm sure the family lawyer will say that - given the ride had to potential to kill someone if they got underneath of it - the park should have done more to prevent people getting near it than just a climbable fence with a few signs.
In fact, the more I think about it, 6 Flags certainly *should* have done more to restrict access to the part of the ride that's kill-able. Yes, they should take into account that there are stupid people at their park as well as kids who don't obey signs. Seriously, if 6 Flags really didn't want anyone wandering around under the ride, they'd make sure no one could get under there. |
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Absolutely.The fences should have been electrified. There definitely needed to be a shark filled moat. Only then, should the visitors have encountered the guard dogs after which they could navigate the mine field. After that, a zone filled with sleeping gas and then a open area with snipers armed with tasers. Of course, they'd need to have F16's sorties in case someone tried to parachute in to the killing zone and the entire zone would have to have 6 foot thick floors to prevent anyone from tunneling into it. Anything less just simply is inviting people to ignore the posted warnings and do something stupid. Oh, and they should tag every customer with a GPS locator so they can track them no matter where they go. No matter the expense, they must do the impossible and idiot proof their rides. Really, they just shouldn't have rides. You can never tell what the stupid are going to come up with. Amusement Parks are the lottery of the 2000's.
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gimme a break. Drive past any 50,000 Volt transformer and it's only protected by a fence and warning signs. Last edited by Lathum : 06-29-2008 at 06:20 PM. |
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06-29-2008, 06:17 PM | #218 |
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dude having an electric fence right next to a moat has to be some sort of safety hazard
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True, we'll swap the mine field with the moat then. That'd make it safe.
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Am I wrong for thinking that a ride traveling that fast should be enough of a warning itself to stay away from it? The fence pretty clearly marks the area of danger so anyone climbing the fence should be on their own. |
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I'm still pushing for the shark filled moat though. At least we can get that. Hell, put a platform over it and sell tickets. I'd pay.
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You know, as I've said, Six Flags is not at fault here, and they have every reason to believe that the warning signs that were in place and common sense should be enough to deter people. However, I like to ride the Batman ride, and I'd rather not kick someone in the head. I won't feel any better just because it was a stupid person, and neither will my foot. I don't see how it could hurt to make it more difficult to get to that area.
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Deep water filled trench filled with large, finned fish maybe. Just a thought.
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If the impact was hard enough to take off his head what happened to the rider's foot? Or was it the ride that hit him in the head. I have to agree with the poster above who said the rest of that ride must of really sucked. So would waiting in line for about an hour to be in the first car, being told the ride is being shut down, getting pissing off about it, and then finding out some asshole lost his head.
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Off the top of my head, build a higher, non/less-climbable fence.
I can see 3 of them from my deck:
So it's not unheard of, nor impossible. Too expensive? Yep. |
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Investigating reports that deceased entered area though an open gate.
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I agree they could have put barbed wire on the top but be real, the kids were gonna jump the fence no matter how high, and like I said earlier, jumping the fence isn't the stupid thing, jumping at a moving roller coaster is why he gets the darwin award.
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Which brings us to the next question. Are people happy to have a $5/$10 hike on ticket prices, so the park can build unclimable walls around every single ride to prevent stupid people killing themselves? If the gate was really left open, ugh. That's not good and the park are going to pay for that. |
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Not for unclimbable walls but I know what I'd pay the extra money for.
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It wouldn't have to be every single ride. The nature of the Batman ride (hanging below the track) is how these incidents happened. If the kid climbed the fence for the Mindbender or Scream Machine for example, then he wouldn't be dead right now.
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Okay, I've posted at least 3 or 4 times in here already that the kid was stupid and the park was not at fault. However, my point in that last post was that the stupid kid would not have been decapitated by other rides. Just because the park isn't at fault doesn't mean they shouldn't still try to do something to try and prevent further incidents from happening. Alot of stupid people go to Six Flags.
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So you don't think they should have a fence up at all?
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With any accident, someone could have done "a little more" to prevent it. That's not negligence.
This kid probably would have killed a family or something driving drunk or racing in a year or two. Good riddance. |
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Who is arguing that the park is negligent?
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06-30-2008, 08:44 AM | #249 |
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Uh yeah. Batman claims another. These rides are awesome.
I wonder if the people riding were like "wow, cool special effects".
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Clearly the Batman ride needs to move slower. The speed of Mr. Toads Wild Ride should work.
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