09-09-2006, 10:14 PM | #201 |
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Here's straight from the NCAA on why it was not a bad call. It was called like it was written in the rulebook: hxxp://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLN4j3CQXJgFjGpvqRqCKOcAFfj_zcVH1v_QD9gtzQiHJHRUUAc0tpTA!!/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvUUd3QndNQSEvNElVRS82XzBfTFU!?CONTENT_URL=http://www1.ncaa.org/eprise/main/playingrules/football/2005/index Page 118 of the PDF, Line L "No player shall use his helmet (including the face mask) to butt or ram an opponent" Since the replays showed that he clearly hit him flush with his facemask before any other part of his body hit him, it was the correct NCAA call.
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09-09-2006, 10:16 PM | #203 |
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That helmet to helmet call was terrible. I'm not sure the two helmets even touched and he certainly didn't lead with his helmet.
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09-09-2006, 10:21 PM | #205 |
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Defend the call all you want. It was horrible. The defensive player was not trying to injure the QB, wasnt' leading with his helmut and didn't do anything illegal on the play. The ref shed some tears for the poor Texas QB who was getting his ass kicked and threw them a bone. It was terrible. If the helmuts touched at all, it was barely. Later in the game a Texas defensive end broke free and jumped on top of Smith. I can assure you the two helmuts connected at some point there. In fact, I'd bet that on 80% of all sacks, the helmuts connect. it was a BS call that could have had major implications in the outcome of the game. Piss poor officiating. |
09-09-2006, 10:22 PM | #206 | |
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09-09-2006, 10:26 PM | #207 | |
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09-09-2006, 10:27 PM | #208 |
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TT and UTEP just became a game again
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09-09-2006, 10:28 PM | #209 | |
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I agree that helmets touch on 80% of tackles. But if the helmets are the first parts of the tackler/tacklee to touch, that is all the rule is written to address. There is nothing in the rules to instruct the referee to determine intent or if the helmet was led or not. If the helmets are the first thing to touch, it's a penalty. If it happens to a QB in the pocket, it is more likely to be seen and called than a RB or receiver out in the field.
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09-09-2006, 10:34 PM | #210 |
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Is the TT/UTEP game on TV somewhere?
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09-09-2006, 10:37 PM | #211 |
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I've got it on CSTV, channel 610 on DirecTV.
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09-09-2006, 10:42 PM | #212 |
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I'm still watching it on Yahoo since we don't get it here
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09-09-2006, 10:45 PM | #213 |
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The Miners are up by 1 at home, 25-24, going into the 4th quarter. They'll start the quarter with 4th and 9, in FG range.
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09-09-2006, 10:47 PM | #214 |
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and they make the FG to go up by 4.
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09-09-2006, 10:47 PM | #215 |
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dola,
is Jeeber afraid to post and jinx UTEP?
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09-09-2006, 10:49 PM | #216 |
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I would like to apologize to Mr. Troy Smith for calling him overrated. I think I had him confused with Justin Zwick or somebody.
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09-09-2006, 10:49 PM | #217 |
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According to the Member List, he hasn't posted since yesterday SI
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09-09-2006, 10:58 PM | #220 |
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Texas Tech settles for a FG to cut the UTEP lead to 1 with about 11 minutes left in the game.
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09-09-2006, 11:00 PM | #221 |
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28-27 miners, wow great game so far. keep it up utep
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Dang: 3 and out
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09-09-2006, 11:08 PM | #223 |
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Tech gets a quick TD and 2pt conversion to take a 35-28 lead
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09-09-2006, 11:11 PM | #225 |
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Carson's little bro throws an INT on their first play. Not looking good for the Miners.
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09-09-2006, 11:14 PM | #226 |
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and UTEP dodges a bullet. TT goes 3 and out, and misses the FG attempt.
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09-09-2006, 11:14 PM | #227 |
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Come on UTEP. Mess em up.
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This is part of my post from the OSU/Texas part 2 deux thread with tonight's thoughts added in [brackets].
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09-09-2006, 11:15 PM | #229 |
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REVENGE.
tOSU gets nipped in the last minute last season, they roll into enemy territory and hand them their ass tonight. The good points: Troy Smith is turning into a damn fine QB, he's using his brain and his arm more and his legs less. All things I like in a QB. tOSU defense played a superb game. THe linebacking corps is coming around and the secondary guys are figuring out how to cover well. This defense will only get better. tOSU Offensive line: holy shit these guys are good. The bad things: The Texas QB, while understandably having some freshmen problems I think he needs to work on his accuracy and he SERIOUSLY needs to learn how to not get himself or his receivers killed out there. He took a huge number of big hits that he probably could have at least made less painful, and he hung his RB and a couple receivers out there like giant freaking targets for the defense to hammer. The Texas D. Not really sure what went wrong here, they played decently and showed some amazing speed. I really thought they'd be a tougher nut to crack. I know the injuries played a part, but Smith and company ran over them like a steamroller on way too many plays. Texas coaching staff: These guys played WAY too conservatively. They needed to stretch the field more and pound the ball when the safeties and linebackers backed off. Lastly, the officiating thus far has been awful across the board. Someone forgot to tell the zebras that pulling on the jersey is HOLDING, and while I applaud the ref for feeling sorry for McCoy and calling a roughing penalty, the call was wrong, period. There was no leading with the helmet, there was no blow to the head, there was no slamming him into the ground. The defensive end played that perfectly. Without that pathetic call Texas gets shutout. overall I really enjoyed the game I kept waiting for something bad to happen and for once it never did. Go BUCKEYES! |
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come on utep we want a game tying drive...
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09-09-2006, 11:19 PM | #231 |
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UTEP converts a 4th & 5 to keep their hopes alive
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09-09-2006, 11:21 PM | #232 |
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UTEP is giving tech all they can handle tonite. miners look like a pretty solid team this year
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09-09-2006, 11:21 PM | #233 |
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TD UTEP!!!!
Now for the XP. Are they gonna pull an Air Force, or go for OT?
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TOUCHDOWN MINERS!!!
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UTEP ties it up with 1:04 left.
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woohoo he made it (whew) hey look at that 1000 posts
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They tie with a XP.
1:03 left. That is a lot of time for the Texas Tech offense to work with, but they are out of timeouts
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WOO!
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Ooh, TT might have been able to try a long FG, but there was a holding call that wiped out a 25 yard pass. Looks like OT, unless the Hail Mary works.
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OT BABY
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Jeebs must be going nuts
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Roughing the passer, one more try for Tech
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09-09-2006, 11:29 PM | #244 |
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Going to OT
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09-09-2006, 11:30 PM | #245 |
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12 men on the field. Yet one more try for Tech
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09-09-2006, 11:30 PM | #246 |
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UTEP is gonna kill themselves with the penalties.
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09-09-2006, 11:31 PM | #247 |
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51 yard FG attempt for Tech...
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09-09-2006, 11:31 PM | #248 |
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This Oregon/Fresno St. game is heating up. Each team has made some huge hits.
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09-09-2006, 11:31 PM | #249 |
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no good.
and more importantly, no flags. We are now officially going to OT.
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ya oregon needs to get there game together, I'm a huge fan of dixon at QB but fresno isnt looking bad ... hopefully the ducks can pull this one out
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