Alright boyz - 2004 Presidential Election Thread - Page 5

Ksyrup · 11-02-2004, 11:31 PM

The deal with ohio is that there are somewhere around 200K provisional ballots, and if the numbers stay like they are, or obviously if they get close, the provisionals will have to be reviewed and then, if allowed, counted. Bush is behind in the other states that would give him an alternate path to victory, so it may come down to Ohio, and only Ohio, deciding the election.

easymacfu · 11-02-2004, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Let me preface this by saying that I don't believe by any stretch that it is over already, but I would have loved to see the look on Carville's face when he talked about this.

He didn't seem too upset. He basically said that he agreed the Dems needed a good ass whooping to rethink things.

That being said, looking at the numbers in Ohio, I don't see how Kerry makes up anything, there are a few counties with not too many precints reporting where Bus his waxing him.

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COUNTY  	STATUS  	CANDIDATE  	COUNTY VOTE  	VOTE %  	PRECINCTS
Adams
Updated: 12:25 a.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	7,480 	64%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	4,189 	36%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	35 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	31 	0%
Allen
Updated: 10:19 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	31,629 	67%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	15,822 	33%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	130 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	62 	0%
Ashland
Updated: 11:09 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	8,821 	64%	40% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	4,738 	35%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	73 	1%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	41 	0%
Ashtabula
Updated: 11:01 p.m. ET
		
Democratic	Kerry
	23,545 	53%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	20,621 	47%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	158 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	141 	0%
Athens
Updated: 11:35 p.m. ET
		
Democratic	Kerry
	11,394 	64%	71% of precincts reporting
	
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	6,238 	35%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	64 	1%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	62 	0%

COUNTY 	STATUS 	CANDIDATE 	COUNTY VOTE 	VOTE % 	PRECINCTS
Auglaize
Updated: 11:54 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	14,278 	74%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	4,917 	26%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	56 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	44 	0%
Belmont
Updated: 12:10 a.m. ET
		
Democratic	Kerry
	12,226 	53%	72% of precincts reporting
	
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	10,828 	47%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	60 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	48 	0%
Brown
Updated: 11:55 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	12,480 	64%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	7,058 	36%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	52 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	51 	0%
Butler
Updated: 12:17 a.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	106,735 	66%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	54,185 	34%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	396 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	274 	0%
Carroll
Updated: 10:35 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	7,531 	54%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	6,190 	45%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	75 	1%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	58 	0%

COUNTY 	STATUS 	CANDIDATE 	COUNTY VOTE 	VOTE % 	PRECINCTS
Champaign
Updated: 11:22 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	11,432 	63%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	6,752 	37%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	43 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	41 	0%
Clark
Updated: 12:00 a.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	33,389 	52%	97% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	31,228 	48%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	181 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	138 	0%
Clermont
Updated: 11:03 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	20,490 	71%	27% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	8,535 	29%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	49 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	34 	0%
Clinton
Updated: 9:50 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	5,664 	69%	63% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	2,583 	31%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	16 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	9 	0%
Columbiana
Updated: 11:24 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	25,212 	52%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	22,884 	48%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	148 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	126 	0%

COUNTY 	STATUS 	CANDIDATE 	COUNTY VOTE 	VOTE % 	PRECINCTS
Coshocton
Updated: 10:37 p.m. ET
		
Democratic	Kerry
	2,172 	51%	28% of precincts reporting
	
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	2,056 	49%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	11 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	8 	0%
Crawford
Updated: 11:50 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	13,667 	64%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	7,626 	36%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	72 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	68 	0%
Cuyahoga
Updated: 12:03 a.m. ET
		
Democratic	Kerry
	282,406 	63%	67% of precincts reporting
	
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	163,732 	37%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	1,160 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	1,113 	0%
Darke
Updated: 11:42 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	17,869 	70%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	7,663 	30%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	79 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	76 	0%
Defiance
Updated: 10:02 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	2,344 	60%	24% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	1,537 	40%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	13 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	5 	0%

COUNTY 	STATUS 	CANDIDATE 	COUNTY VOTE 	VOTE % 	PRECINCTS
Delaware
Updated: 12:24 a.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	47,882 	66%	94% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	24,639 	34%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	152 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	80 	0%
Erie
Updated: 11:58 p.m. ET
		
Democratic	Kerry
	20,652 	53%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	18,019 	47%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	48 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	17 	0%
Fairfield
Updated: 11:49 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	34,212 	62%	81% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	19,640 	36%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	708 	1%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	523 	1%
Fayette
Updated: 10:31 p.m. ET
		
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	7,221 	63%	100% of precincts reporting
	
Democratic	Kerry
	4,244 	37%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	28 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	18 	0%
Franklin
Updated: 11:35 p.m. ET
		
Democratic	Kerry
	244,527 	53%	91% of precincts reporting
	
Republican	Bush
(Incumbent)
	215,259 	47%
	
Non-Partisan	Badnarik
	1,406 	0%
	
Non-Partisan	Peroutka
	991 	0%

GoldenEagle · 11-02-2004, 11:33 PM

The popular vote is real close but early returns in California show it is alot closer than many expected. I think Bush will take the popular vote.

Chubby · 11-02-2004, 11:33 PM

Bush has to take Ohio AND New Mexico (both currently leaning his way) to win.

Chubby · 11-02-2004, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

The deal with ohio is that there are somewhere around 200K provisional ballots, and if the numbers stay like they are, or obviously if they get close, the provisionals will have to be reviewed and then, if allowed, counted. Bush is behind in the other states that would give him an alternate path to victory, so it may come down to Ohio, and only Ohio, deciding the election.

Exactly, I couldn't remember how many provisionals they said were handed out or if they were included in current totals or not...

CraigSca · 11-02-2004, 11:36 PM

I'm a Bush suppoprter, but my worst case scenario is, no matter who wins, a long drawn out court battle. No matter who wins, I hope the other bows out and says the best man won - for the country's sake.

GoldenEagle · 11-02-2004, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

Bush has to take Ohio AND New Mexico (both currently leaning his way) to win.

Bush should take Nevada. I do no think he will lose there.I aslo think he will take New Mexico. However, it looks like Ohio will decide the election. Last count I heard there was 800,000 uncounted for in Ohio with Bush holding +180,000.

RendeR · 11-02-2004, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSca

I'm a Bush suppoprter, but my worst case scenario is, no matter who wins, a long drawn out court battle. No matter who wins, I hope the other bows out and says the best man won - for the country's sake.

*cackles* you put the words "best man" and "wins" in the same sentence......

*CACKLES*

Sorry, but the very idea that either of these two nether-regions of a diseased yak is the best man for anything is hilarious.

I apologize for this interruption of our national corruption, we now return you to your regular 4 year frustration....

Chubby · 11-02-2004, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Bush should take Nevada. I do no think he will lose there.I aslo think he will take New Mexico. However, it looks like Ohio will decide the election. Last count I heard there was 800,000 uncounted for in Ohio with Bush holding +180,000.

well currently bush is down in nevada and up in new mexico.

there's also the provisional ballots in ohio too...

GoldenEagle · 11-02-2004, 11:41 PM

Fox news just called Ohio for Bush!

easymacfu · 11-02-2004, 11:41 PM

If Ohio's number stay similar to they are now through the night and Bush's percent hold true through all the precincts, even with 200K provisional ballots Kerry would need around 130-150K of those, or over 65% to have a chance. There are still precincts open where Bush has a good lead, that overall almost cancel any gains Kerry will make through the night.

Kerry gets Oregon.

CNN has it 246-195 for Bush. 97 votes left.

CraigSca · 11-02-2004, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

*cackles* you put the words "best man" and "wins" in the same sentence......

*CACKLES*

Sorry, but the very idea that either of these two nether-regions of a diseased yak is the best man for anything is hilarious.

I apologize for this interruption of our national corruption, we now return you to your regular 4 year frustration....

EVERYTHING is relative, Render.

GoldenEagle · 11-02-2004, 11:43 PM

He is down by 5,000 in Nevada, the slimest of margins. If Fox News is right, this thing is all but over.

Chubby · 11-02-2004, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Fox news just called Ohio for Bush!

would you expect anything different? if it gets called by anyone else than maybe.

TroyF · 11-02-2004, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

Bush has to take Ohio AND New Mexico (both currently leaning his way) to win.

No, he doesn't. He takes Ohio and Alaska, he gets to 269. That's a tie, that's decided by the House. The Republicans hold the house.

Fox News just called Ohio.

Provisional ballots and court cases aside, this election is now over.

Chubby · 11-02-2004, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF

No, he doesn't. He takes Ohio and Alaska, he gets to 269. That's a tie, that's decided by the House. The Republicans hold the house.

Fox News just called Ohio.

Provisional ballots and court cases aside, this election is now over.

again, when someone else calls ohio then it's over.

Ksyrup · 11-02-2004, 11:46 PM

I have a feeling the Dems will not let Ohio go so easily.

Funny, because Fox News has actually been pretty cautious is calling states until the last hour or so. Now they've decided to scoop everyone and essentially give Bush the election.

kingfc22 · 11-02-2004, 11:48 PM

I can't believe that Fox was the first to call Ohio because they were the last to call Florida. CBS has been the network that has called everything early and I doubt they'd call Ohio anytime tonight since Rather is an obviously anti-Bush.

Dutch · 11-02-2004, 11:48 PM

Yeah, FoxNews was the only station that was sticking to the agreement of letting the AP call the states until now. Because this is the big one. If it's true and the lawyers in fact have run out of free cigarettes to give to returning voters in Cleveland....then Bush has basically won!

easymacfu · 11-02-2004, 11:48 PM

My guess is Kerry gains 15-20K in Ohio by the time the normal counting is done tonight.

kingfc22 · 11-02-2004, 11:49 PM

dola

Ksyrup beat me to it.

Chubby · 11-02-2004, 11:51 PM

MSNBC is saying both parties are saying it's going to be razor thin close

TroyF · 11-02-2004, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I have a feeling the Dems will not let Ohio go so easily.

Funny, because Fox News has actually been pretty cautious is calling states until the last hour or so. Now they've decided to scoop everyone and essentially give Bush the election.

They won't, but even if they have 200,000 provisional ballots undecided, they'd have to assume Kerry would take 135,000+ of those. Possible, sure, but it's not likely.

It looks like Bush is going to get Ohio, New Mexico and Alaska.

Still haven't got 100% of Ohio in, but it's looking like it's going to be difficult to get this.

Chubby · 11-02-2004, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF

They won't, but even if they have 200,000 provisional ballots undecided, they'd have to assume Kerry would take 135,000+ of those. Possible, sure, but it's not likely.

It looks like Bush is going to get Ohio, New Mexico and Alaska.

Still haven't got 100% of Ohio in, but it's looking like it's going to be difficult to get this.

Alaska is Bush's no problem.

Remember that the provisionals are from where all the lines are, in the heavy dem areas (cleveland) as far as I know. He's pulling near 2/3 in the county...

CraigSca · 11-02-2004, 11:58 PM

90% of Cuyahoga in, Bush still up by 100K

easymacfu · 11-02-2004, 11:59 PM

Over says Brokaw

CraigSca · 11-02-2004, 11:59 PM

CNN roundtable pretty much giving it to Bush at this point...

kingfc22 · 11-02-2004, 11:59 PM

NBC just gave Ohio. It's OVA!!!

Chubby · 11-03-2004, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSca

90% of Cuyahoga in, Bush still up by 100K

so say it stays at 100k (even tho it has been going down)

with 200k he only needs 50.000001% of the provisionals to take the state.

Ohio has been given to Bush by MSNBC so it's time to go to sleep but with the numbers continually dropping who knows...

VPI97 · 11-03-2004, 12:00 AM

Done and done

GoldenEagle · 11-03-2004, 12:01 AM

CNN calls AK for Bush.

easymacfu · 11-03-2004, 12:02 AM

Bush gets Alaska... Kerry needs a sweep. And that split vote in Maine or something. Come on Bush/Edwards ticket.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 11-03-2004, 12:04 AM

FOX NEWS:

BUSH 269
KERRY 211

God is Great God Is Great.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 11-03-2004, 12:05 AM

Dola: Bush Edwards ? Dear God what would the campaign slogan be.

Dutch · 11-03-2004, 12:06 AM

Somewhere Hillary Clinton is smiling.

easymacfu · 11-03-2004, 12:08 AM

We have 20 year old daughters?

SirFozzie · 11-03-2004, 12:08 AM

Congrats to Bush. He's not the guy I backed, but I offer him the same prayer I would offer Kerry.

"After a time of great division, may you have the wisdom and greatness of spirit to bring our nation together and to preside honestly, ably, and to the best of your ability."

TroyF · 11-03-2004, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

so say it stays at 100k (even tho it has been going down)

with 200k he only needs 50.000001% of the provisionals to take the state.

Ohio has been given to Bush by MSNBC so it's time to go to sleep but with the numbers continually dropping who knows...

Here is the problem Chubby. . .

There might be 200k provisional ballots, but that doesn't mean they all get counted. They have to all be looked at and looked over. What's more, is the margain is about 120,000 with 89% in. If that doesn't close, that means Kerry needs 60+% of them to get the win.

It's bleak. No other way to look at it.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 11-03-2004, 12:09 AM

Now Let's get on to healing a nation divided.

Ksyrup · 11-03-2004, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

Dola: Bush Edwards ? Dear God what would the campaign slogan be.

No chance. In addition to Bush winning, the Reps have taken a number of Senate seats and would have control over both the House (who would pick President) and Senate (who would pick VP). If it's a tie, it's still over.

CraigSca · 11-03-2004, 12:14 AM

Bush has now taken the lead in Iowa, with 89% of the precincts reporting...

sterlingice · 11-03-2004, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

Now Let's get on to healing a nation divided.

That worked so well 4 years ago...

SI

sovereignstar · 11-03-2004, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

Now Let's get on to healing a nation divided.

It's a darn shame. We could have started healing a divided world as well.

MrBug708 · 11-03-2004, 12:17 AM

Does this mean George won't be baseball Commish?

kingfc22 · 11-03-2004, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

It's a darn shame. We could have started healing a divided world as well.

*chuckles*

Dutch · 11-03-2004, 12:20 AM

France, Germany, and Russia just breathed a sigh of relief. ("Whew, looks like we don't have to get off our asses after all!")

Trust me, they are very content with the result. They get to keep bashing America and they get to leave America to do the dirty work of fighting the bad guys by ourselves.

kingfc22 · 11-03-2004, 12:23 AM

Boy if New Mexico stays as it is right now and Bush wins it. Gov. Richardson should get a pie in the face. He came on Fox earlier and all but guaranteed that NM would go to Kerry. Oops.

easymacfu · 11-03-2004, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch

France, Germany, and Russia just breathed a sigh of relief. ("Whew, looks like we don't have to get off our asses after all!")

Trust me, they are very content with the result. They get to keep bashing America and they get to leave America to do the dirty work of fighting the bad guys by ourselves.

We're fighting Bin Laden? Thats right, we quit that for a war people could see.

Its funny, but if Bush stayed on task, there would have been no doubt that he cruises this election. Whever told him Iraq was a good idea deserves to be fired.

Dutch · 11-03-2004, 12:31 AM

I know what you are saying, but if we spent 3 years searching the mountains of Afghanistan for Bin Laden (who could very well be in Bangladesh for all we know) and we let Saddam Hussein keep the status quo, I can promise you Kerry would have had an argument for that too.

I'm sure you can agree that Kerry has to be disagreeable with any choice Bush made.

Ksyrup · 11-03-2004, 12:32 AM

It's deja vu all over again...Kery campaign disputes Ohio call.

Now, I just saw the Ohio Elections Supervisor say that his best estimate is that there are 150K provisionals. Combined with what's left of the regular votes, I'm fine with waiting until 100% report, but I don't see Kerry coming up with what they need to overcome the lead.

11-02-2004, 11:31 PM	#201
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	The deal with ohio is that there are somewhere around 200K provisional ballots, and if the numbers stay like they are, or obviously if they get close, the provisionals will have to be reviewed and then, if allowed, counted. Bush is behind in the other states that would give him an alternate path to victory, so it may come down to Ohio, and only Ohio, deciding the election. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-02-2004, 11:33 PM	#203
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	The popular vote is real close but early returns in California show it is alot closer than many expected. I think Bush will take the popular vote. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

11-02-2004, 11:36 PM	#206
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	I'm a Bush suppoprter, but my worst case scenario is, no matter who wins, a long drawn out court battle. No matter who wins, I hope the other bows out and says the best man won - for the country's sake. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know? Last edited by CraigSca : 11-02-2004 at 11:37 PM.

11-02-2004, 11:41 PM	#210
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Fox news just called Ohio for Bush! __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

11-02-2004, 11:43 PM	#213
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	He is down by 5,000 in Nevada, the slimest of margins. If Fox News is right, this thing is all but over. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

11-02-2004, 11:33 PM	#204
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Bush has to take Ohio AND New Mexico (both currently leaning his way) to win.

11-02-2004, 11:41 PM	#211
easymacfu n00b Join Date: Nov 2004	If Ohio's number stay similar to they are now through the night and Bush's percent hold true through all the precincts, even with 200K provisional ballots Kerry would need around 130-150K of those, or over 65% to have a chance. There are still precincts open where Bush has a good lead, that overall almost cancel any gains Kerry will make through the night. Kerry gets Oregon. CNN has it 246-195 for Bush. 97 votes left.

11-02-2004, 11:46 PM	#217
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I have a feeling the Dems will not let Ohio go so easily. Funny, because Fox News has actually been pretty cautious is calling states until the last hour or so. Now they've decided to scoop everyone and essentially give Bush the election. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-02-2004, 11:48 PM	#218
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I can't believe that Fox was the first to call Ohio because they were the last to call Florida. CBS has been the network that has called everything early and I doubt they'd call Ohio anytime tonight since Rather is an obviously anti-Bush. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-02-2004, 11:48 PM	#219
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Yeah, FoxNews was the only station that was sticking to the agreement of letting the AP call the states until now. Because this is the big one. If it's true and the lawyers in fact have run out of free cigarettes to give to returning voters in Cleveland....then Bush has basically won! Last edited by Dutch : 11-02-2004 at 11:49 PM.

11-02-2004, 11:48 PM	#220
easymacfu n00b Join Date: Nov 2004	My guess is Kerry gains 15-20K in Ohio by the time the normal counting is done tonight.

11-02-2004, 11:49 PM	#221
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	dola Ksyrup beat me to it. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-02-2004, 11:51 PM	#222
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	MSNBC is saying both parties are saying it's going to be razor thin close

11-02-2004, 11:58 PM	#225
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	90% of Cuyahoga in, Bush still up by 100K __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

11-02-2004, 11:59 PM	#226
easymacfu n00b Join Date: Nov 2004	Over says Brokaw

11-02-2004, 11:59 PM	#227
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	CNN roundtable pretty much giving it to Bush at this point... __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

11-02-2004, 11:59 PM	#228
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	NBC just gave Ohio. It's OVA!!! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-03-2004, 12:00 AM	#230
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Done and done __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

11-03-2004, 12:01 AM	#231
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	CNN calls AK for Bush. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

11-03-2004, 12:02 AM	#232
easymacfu n00b Join Date: Nov 2004	Bush gets Alaska... Kerry needs a sweep. And that split vote in Maine or something. Come on Bush/Edwards ticket.

11-03-2004, 12:04 AM	#233
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	FOX NEWS: BUSH 269 KERRY 211 God is Great God Is Great. __________________ Toujour Pret

11-03-2004, 12:05 AM	#234
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Dola: Bush Edwards ? Dear God what would the campaign slogan be. __________________ Toujour Pret

11-03-2004, 12:06 AM	#235
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Somewhere Hillary Clinton is smiling.

11-03-2004, 12:08 AM	#236
easymacfu n00b Join Date: Nov 2004	We have 20 year old daughters?

11-03-2004, 12:08 AM	#237
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Congrats to Bush. He's not the guy I backed, but I offer him the same prayer I would offer Kerry. "After a time of great division, may you have the wisdom and greatness of spirit to bring our nation together and to preside honestly, ably, and to the best of your ability." __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

11-03-2004, 12:09 AM	#239
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Now Let's get on to healing a nation divided. __________________ Toujour Pret

11-03-2004, 12:14 AM	#241
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Bush has now taken the lead in Iowa, with 89% of the precincts reporting... __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

11-03-2004, 12:17 AM	#244
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Does this mean George won't be baseball Commish?

11-03-2004, 12:20 AM	#246
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	France, Germany, and Russia just breathed a sigh of relief. ("Whew, looks like we don't have to get off our asses after all!") Trust me, they are very content with the result. They get to keep bashing America and they get to leave America to do the dirty work of fighting the bad guys by ourselves. Last edited by Dutch : 11-03-2004 at 12:21 AM.

11-03-2004, 12:23 AM	#247
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Boy if New Mexico stays as it is right now and Bush wins it. Gov. Richardson should get a pie in the face. He came on Fox earlier and all but guaranteed that NM would go to Kerry. Oops. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-03-2004, 12:31 AM	#249
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I know what you are saying, but if we spent 3 years searching the mountains of Afghanistan for Bin Laden (who could very well be in Bangladesh for all we know) and we let Saddam Hussein keep the status quo, I can promise you Kerry would have had an argument for that too. I'm sure you can agree that Kerry has to be disagreeable with any choice Bush made.

11-03-2004, 12:32 AM	#250
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	It's deja vu all over again...Kery campaign disputes Ohio call. Now, I just saw the Ohio Elections Supervisor say that his best estimate is that there are 150K provisionals. Combined with what's left of the regular votes, I'm fine with waiting until 100% report, but I don't see Kerry coming up with what they need to overcome the lead. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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