2009 MLB Playoff Thread - Page 4

Young Drachma · 10-12-2009, 01:27 AM

All the better. If the Rockies were to win this series, it'd just give the Monforts an excuse to raise ticket prices and spend less on the team as usual.

Dr. Sak · 10-12-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I really hope a foul ball strikes the face of the whore who has been waving non-stop every time they show a LH hitter.

I wanted to punch that jackoff guy with the lumberjack hat and rockies jersey on behind the plate. Every pitch he would jump up and down.

Dr. Sak · 10-12-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I wanted to punch that jackoff guy with the lumberjack hat and rockies jersey on behind the plate. Every pitch he would jump up and down.

SackAttack · 10-12-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

All the better. If the Rockies were to win this series, it'd just give the Monforts an excuse to raise ticket prices and spend less on the team as usual.

Point of order.

If it's "as usual," does it matter if they win or not? Do they need the excuse to do it anyway?

RomaGoth · 10-12-2009, 04:02 PM

It's great that the ALCS doesn't even start until Friday. With any luck, by 2012 the World Series will take place on New Year's day, in which case MLB will continue to be clueless as it loses ratings to college football.

EagleFan · 10-12-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I wanted to punch that jackoff guy with the lumberjack hat and rockies jersey on behind the plate. Every pitch he would jump up and down.

Not as much as the people sitting behind him I bet.

RedKingGold · 10-12-2009, 07:38 PM

Strike zones are horrible for both Rockies and Phillies. These umpires suck.

Dr. Sak · 10-12-2009, 08:31 PM

Nice 2 out comeback!

Dr. Sak · 10-12-2009, 08:52 PM

Way to go Fightins!

Radii · 10-12-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Way to go Fightins!

so why is that nickname used for the Phillies? as someone who hasn't followed baseball any this year, it pretty much just sounds ridiculous!

Dr. Sak · 10-12-2009, 09:11 PM

To be honest I really dont know. My dad and grandfather called them that. I know some people refer to the Phillies as the Fightin Phils.

Maybe one of the other Phillies fans can answer this.

Chief Rum · 10-12-2009, 09:12 PM

The Fightin' Phils.

I think they been called that for decades in some form or another, haven't they?

Logan · 10-12-2009, 09:13 PM

I thought it was an homage to their fans? Murdering Phils came across as too strong.

(ok cheap shot...congrats on the series win guys)

Radii · 10-12-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

The Fightin' Phils.

I think they been called that for decades in some form or another, haven't they?

Oh ok I've heard that, just never heard it shortened to "fightins"

tucker rocky · 10-12-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I absolutely wanted to reach through the screen, and punch Elmer Fudd in the face.
Jumping and shaking like a total fool.

RedKingGold · 10-12-2009, 10:23 PM

Man, I love this Phillies team (and last year's too).

Chief Rum · 10-12-2009, 10:41 PM

I like both series. I think each matchup is intriguing in its own way.

ALCS

Can the Yankees beat the Angels, their nemesis of recent years?
Can the Yankees get out from behind a string of postseason failures since the last championship?
Will the Angels have anything left after finally dispatching the Red Sox?
Will ARod continue to play well?

NLCS

Can the Phillies repeat or will the best team in the NL record-wise end up on top?
Can a non-ace filled rotation beat a power heavy Phillies lineup?
Will Manny start to dominate?
Will Lidge still be sane at the end of the series?

My guess is, it will end up being Angels-Phillies, the least interesting of all possible matchups nationally (although it would probably get better national ratings than LA-LA).

RedKingGold · 10-12-2009, 10:45 PM

I think MLB would want LA-NY just for the markets and the sexy Joe Torre storyline.

For the first time in a few years, though, it seems like MLB can't lose. They're guaranteed not to end up with markets like Houston, Colorado, or Tampa Bay in the World Series and any matchup of the four teams is likely to generate more juice than St. Louis-Detroit.

EagleFan · 10-12-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

so why is that nickname used for the Phillies? as someone who hasn't followed baseball any this year, it pretty much just sounds ridiculous!

Fightin' Phils have been around for a while as a nickname. Not sure if it goes back farther but I credit HK for shortening it to Fightins'.

EagleFan · 10-12-2009, 11:08 PM

Whatever happens from here out I sure as hell hope the umpires actually get getter (not like they can get any worse).

Lee throws a 4 pitch walk in the bottom of the 8th and 3 of the pitches were in the zone on the corners and the other was just barely off. Later in the inning pitches that are 6-8 inches off the plate are getting called as strikes. I wish I could find a shot from earlier in the game where a pitch that showed on Pitch Trax as right over the middle of the plate got called a ball.

Either Pitch Trax is so far off that it's not even worth showing or the umpires suck beyond belief.

I guess the Detroit/Minnesota play in game was a sign of things to come with the blown hit by pitch call.

tucker rocky · 10-12-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Whatever happens from here out I sure as hell hope the umpires actually get getter

(not like they can get any worse).

Lee throws a 4 pitch walk in the bottom of the 8th and 3 of the pitches were in the zone on the corners and the other was just barely off. Later in the inning pitches that are 6-8 inches off the plate are getting called as strikes. I wish I could find a shot from earlier in the game where a pitch that showed on Pitch Trax as right over the middle of the plate got called a ball.

Either Pitch Trax is so far off that it's not even worth showing or the umpires suck beyond belief.

I guess the Detroit/Minnesota play in game was a sign of things to come with the blown hit by pitch call.

This is nothing new, umpires are full of themselves knowing they are the untouchables.

stevew · 10-12-2009, 11:41 PM

Yeah. I don't know which schmuck it is that barely registers a ball/strike call. But he needs to get more enthusiastic or needs to GTFO.

stevew · 10-12-2009, 11:47 PM

And I really think they need to work on a robotic camera imaging strike zone machine. If the umps can't call a consistent strike zone(and they can't) it needs to be taken out of their hands. Tradition be damned.

lighthousekeeper · 10-13-2009, 12:33 AM

i agree that the umpriing has been particularly bad this offseason. home plate umpire tonight especially

ISiddiqui · 10-13-2009, 08:57 AM

Btw, is it too early to call it "The Curse of Manny"?

Anyways, both LCS's look like intriguing matchups.

Dr. Sak · 10-13-2009, 09:35 AM

As much as I didn't care for TBS' production, I know I'll be clamoring for it after listening to Joe Buck for 2 minutes.

RedKingGold · 10-13-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

As much as I didn't care for TBS' production, I know I'll be clamoring for it after listening to Joe Buck for 2 minutes.

Yep. I'm "this" close to muting the TV and just having the Phillies broadcast radio call on in the background while watching the game.

BishopMVP · 10-13-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Btw, is it too early to call it "The Curse of Manny"?

Trading away your best hitter is a bad thing? But, but... he was bad for team chemistry!!!

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-13-2009, 05:57 PM

Would Manny have been on the team this year without the trade? We would have offered arbitration and he would have turned it down.

Philliesfan980 · 10-13-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Yep. I'm "this" close to muting the TV and just having the Phillies broadcast radio call on in the background while watching the game.

I'd love to do the same thing, except it's never synced up. Although Anderson these days is getting tough to listen to these days with his constant complaining.

ISiddiqui · 10-13-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Would Manny have been on the team this year without the trade? We would have offered arbitration and he would have turned it down.

And may have ended up signing with them during Free Agency anyway... it's Manny after all.

stevew · 10-13-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

I'd love to do the same thing, except it's never synced up. Although Anderson these days is getting tough to listen to these days with his constant complaining.

DVR pause for a second or two. Should get them in sync.

gstelmack · 10-13-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Trading away your best hitter is a bad thing? But, but... he was bad for team chemistry!!!

Well, mostly he was deciding when he would and would not play. People always seem to want to overlook the games he just decided to sit out.

Dr. Sak · 10-13-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

I'd love to do the same thing, except it's never synced up. Although Anderson these days is getting tough to listen to these days with his constant complaining.

He's a crotchety old man isn't he? I forget what game this year but someone hit a home run off of Lidge and LA blurts out "You've gotta be shitting me". There was some dead air after that.

BishopMVP · 10-13-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Well, mostly he was deciding when he would and would not play. People always seem to want to overlook the games he just decided to sit out.

This is an old argument there's little to add to, and it's silly because we lost in the 7th ALCS game last year and against a very good Angels team this year who we were bound not to keep dominating, but he had missed 2 of the last 34 games (back-to-back a week prior) and had played the last 5 after sitting those out. He got on base at a .473 clip, and was 1 shy of Pedroia for the runs scored lead and 4 shy of Youk for the RBI lead for the month of July when he was supposedly acting out.

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

I'd love to do the same thing, except it's never synced up. Although Anderson these days is getting tough to listen to these days with his constant complaining.

Hopefully the DVR thing works for you. If not, during I think the 2003 or 2004 ALCS series the complaining about Buck/McCarver/Boone around here got so bad the radio stations started broadcasting live. So you could try emailing/calling them if you don't have DVR.

SackAttack · 10-14-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Would Manny have been on the team this year without the trade? We would have offered arbitration and he would have turned it down.

You had options for 2009 and 2010 at $20m apiece, I believe. Arbitration wouldn't have entered the picture until after next season.

What wound up happening was he agreed to come to LA in exchange for having those options declined, and then ended up signing a deal at a modest pay increase over the options when no better options materialized in free agency.

gstelmack · 10-14-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

This is an old argument there's little to add to, and it's silly because we lost in the 7th ALCS game last year and against a very good Angels team this year who we were bound not to keep dominating, but he had missed 2 of the last 34 games (back-to-back a week prior) and had played the last 5 after sitting those out. He got on base at a .473 clip, and was 1 shy of Pedroia for the runs scored lead and 4 shy of Youk for the RBI lead for the month of July when he was supposedly acting out.

I don't disagree he was a really good hitter, and I'm not on the side of "but he wasn't trying". But the only reason he came back and played was they were threatening to suspend him, so he came back to keep his trade value / FA value up. He came to his senses and played to get out of there, but there was a rough stretch there.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-14-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

You had options for 2009 and 2010 at $20m apiece, I believe. Arbitration wouldn't have entered the picture until after next season.

What wound up happening was he agreed to come to LA in exchange for having those options declined, and then ended up signing a deal at a modest pay increase over the options when no better options materialized in free agency.

Well, we can never know, but I would have guessed that the option would have been declined, they would have taken their two picks and moved on.

RomaGoth · 10-14-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

...the complaining about Buck/McCarver/Boone around here got so bad the radio stations started broadcasting live.

Who's worse: Buck or McCarver? Joe Morgan or Jon Miller?

molson · 10-14-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Who's worse: Buck or McCarver? Joe Morgan or Jon Miller?

I think I'm the only person in the world that likes Tim McCarver. I'm just a fan of the grumpy old-timey catchers. I think the guy knows a ton about baseball. He's like hanging out with your drunk uncle at a wedding. Sure, he's a little confused, gets some names wrong, but he's generally pretty fun in small doses.

EagleFan · 10-14-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Who's worse: Buck or McCarver? Joe Morgan or Jon Miller?

I remember a game in which Joe Morgan kept going on and on how a player was not being held on base and needed to be watched because he "has speed" and could "easily steal second"...

that player....

Pat Burrell

I have not been able to take anything that he says seriously ever since.

Dr. Sak · 10-14-2009, 12:10 PM

I guess I spoke too soon about having Buck cause the Phils are on TBS this entire series.

The catch that Ben Francisco made in Game 4 was amazing. I'm stealing this next line from a comment on a blog but it's funny...

I hereby dub that diving catch in the 8th "Rice a Roni"......the Ben Francisco treat.

RomaGoth · 10-14-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I guess I spoke too soon about having Buck cause the Phils are on TBS this entire series.[/i]

Chip Carey has set the bar pretty low this playoff season. Ron Darling is....just Ron Darling.

RomaGoth · 10-14-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

I remember a game in which Joe Morgan kept going on and on how a player was not being held on base and needed to be watched because he "has speed" and could "easily steal second"...

that player....

Pat Burrell

I have not been able to take anything that he says seriously ever since.

Jon Miller will start talking about a time when he was 13, climbing a tree, he fell out and his friend's grandmother made them cookies and he felt better after that and perhaps the next batter could possibly eat a cherry pie it might, just might, make him feel better too. Then he will take a catnap during the commercial break between the 1st and 9th innings.

I hate Jon Miller.

SackAttack · 10-14-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Well, we can never know, but I would have guessed that the option would have been declined, they would have taken their two picks and moved on.

Well, by that time, yes.

But it seemed like the CW at the time was that Manny's behavior was because Boston wouldn't commit to declining the options, so he figured he'd make enough of a nuisance of himself to get traded, and then, since he had 5-and-10 rights, he'd be able to get out from under the options by making it a condition of accepting whatever trade.

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 07:38 PM

So far the balls and strikes are being called better. Unfortunately there was a blown call on what should have been a balk but at least early signs are much better for the umpires.

Dr. Sak · 10-15-2009, 08:36 PM

Chooch has been the MVP for the Phils thus far this postseason. He's clutch in the postseason dating back to last year.

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Chooch has been the MVP for the Phils thus far this postseason. He's clutch in the postseason dating back to last year.

Mr. October!!!

RedKingGold · 10-15-2009, 08:49 PM

Howard's first at-bat against Kershaw was great. Even though it was a fly-out, Howard didn't swing at pitches outside the zone and got a really good swing on the ball. I knew if Howard just had another opportunity or two against Clayton, he'd get him.

And so he did in the Fifth.

Dr. Sak · 10-15-2009, 09:09 PM

That's where we needed Cole to step up.

10-12-2009, 01:27 AM	#151
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	All the better. If the Rockies were to win this series, it'd just give the Monforts an excuse to raise ticket prices and spend less on the team as usual. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

10-12-2009, 09:12 PM	#162
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	The Fightin' Phils. I think they been called that for decades in some form or another, haven't they? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-12-2009, 10:41 PM	#167
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I like both series. I think each matchup is intriguing in its own way. ALCS Can the Yankees beat the Angels, their nemesis of recent years? Can the Yankees get out from behind a string of postseason failures since the last championship? Will the Angels have anything left after finally dispatching the Red Sox? Will ARod continue to play well? NLCS Can the Phillies repeat or will the best team in the NL record-wise end up on top? Can a non-ace filled rotation beat a power heavy Phillies lineup? Will Manny start to dominate? Will Lidge still be sane at the end of the series? My guess is, it will end up being Angels-Phillies, the least interesting of all possible matchups nationally (although it would probably get better national ratings than LA-LA). __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-13-2009, 12:33 AM	#174
lighthousekeeper College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	i agree that the umpriing has been particularly bad this offseason. home plate umpire tonight especially __________________ ...

10-13-2009, 08:57 AM	#175
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Btw, is it too early to call it "The Curse of Manny"? Anyways, both LCS's look like intriguing matchups. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-12-2009, 07:38 PM	#157
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Strike zones are horrible for both Rockies and Phillies. These umpires suck.

10-12-2009, 08:31 PM	#158
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Nice 2 out comeback!

10-12-2009, 08:52 PM	#159
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Way to go Fightins!

10-12-2009, 09:11 PM	#161
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	To be honest I really dont know. My dad and grandfather called them that. I know some people refer to the Phillies as the Fightin Phils. Maybe one of the other Phillies fans can answer this.

10-12-2009, 09:13 PM	#163
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I thought it was an homage to their fans? Murdering Phils came across as too strong. (ok cheap shot...congrats on the series win guys)

10-12-2009, 10:23 PM	#166
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Man, I love this Phillies team (and last year's too).

10-12-2009, 10:45 PM	#168
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	I think MLB would want LA-NY just for the markets and the sexy Joe Torre storyline. For the first time in a few years, though, it seems like MLB can't lose. They're guaranteed not to end up with markets like Houston, Colorado, or Tampa Bay in the World Series and any matchup of the four teams is likely to generate more juice than St. Louis-Detroit.

10-12-2009, 11:08 PM	#170
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Whatever happens from here out I sure as hell hope the umpires actually get getter (not like they can get any worse). Lee throws a 4 pitch walk in the bottom of the 8th and 3 of the pitches were in the zone on the corners and the other was just barely off. Later in the inning pitches that are 6-8 inches off the plate are getting called as strikes. I wish I could find a shot from earlier in the game where a pitch that showed on Pitch Trax as right over the middle of the plate got called a ball. Either Pitch Trax is so far off that it's not even worth showing or the umpires suck beyond belief. I guess the Detroit/Minnesota play in game was a sign of things to come with the blown hit by pitch call.

10-12-2009, 11:41 PM	#172
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Yeah. I don't know which schmuck it is that barely registers a ball/strike call. But he needs to get more enthusiastic or needs to GTFO.

10-12-2009, 11:47 PM	#173
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	And I really think they need to work on a robotic camera imaging strike zone machine. If the umps can't call a consistent strike zone(and they can't) it needs to be taken out of their hands. Tradition be damned.

10-13-2009, 09:35 AM	#176
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	As much as I didn't care for TBS' production, I know I'll be clamoring for it after listening to Joe Buck for 2 minutes.

10-13-2009, 05:57 PM	#179
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Would Manny have been on the team this year without the trade? We would have offered arbitration and he would have turned it down. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

10-14-2009, 12:10 PM	#192
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I guess I spoke too soon about having Buck cause the Phils are on TBS this entire series. The catch that Ben Francisco made in Game 4 was amazing. I'm stealing this next line from a comment on a blog but it's funny... I hereby dub that diving catch in the 8th "Rice a Roni"......the Ben Francisco treat.

10-15-2009, 07:38 PM	#196
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	So far the balls and strikes are being called better. Unfortunately there was a blown call on what should have been a balk but at least early signs are much better for the umpires.

10-15-2009, 08:36 PM	#197
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Chooch has been the MVP for the Phils thus far this postseason. He's clutch in the postseason dating back to last year.

10-15-2009, 08:49 PM	#199
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Howard's first at-bat against Kershaw was great. Even though it was a fly-out, Howard didn't swing at pitches outside the zone and got a really good swing on the ball. I knew if Howard just had another opportunity or two against Clayton, he'd get him. And so he did in the Fifth. Last edited by RedKingGold : 10-15-2009 at 08:50 PM.

10-15-2009, 09:09 PM	#200
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	That's where we needed Cole to step up.

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