The FOFC Television Family Draft - Draft Underway

[tarcone]

That would have been my 1st pick. The Fonz is a great pick.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

After careful consideration, and in going with a more modern theme, we here at team DeTox have determined that there is no better best friend to a lead character then ..

1.4: Arthur "The Fonz" Fonzereli [Best friend]

Who doen't know the Fonz?

That was my first pick!

[larrymcg421]

1.5 Cliff Huxtable - Dad

Gotta go with Cliff, one of the funniest and most likeable dads in TV history. My favorite Cliff moment is in the first episode where he teaches Theo how to live like a regular person, using monopoly money as an example.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

1.5 Cliff Huxtable - Dad

Gotta go with Cliff, one of the funniest and most likeable dads in TV history. My favorite Cliff moment is in the first episode where he teaches Theo how to live like a regular person, using monopoly money as an example.

"You gonna have a girlfriend?"
"For sure..."

[DeToxRox]

And LarryMcG complies with the Rooney er Pumpy rule with his minority pick.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

1.5 Cliff Huxtable - Dad

Gotta go with Cliff, one of the funniest and most likeable dads in TV history. My favorite Cliff moment is in the first episode where he teaches Theo how to live like a regular person, using monopoly money as an example.

That scene was hilarious. This is a great pick!

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

That was my 1.1.

[Maple Leafs]

I thought Cliff might fall to me at #7. Damn.

I'm now in "trade down for more picks" mode.

[Lathum]

My top pick is still there ,keeping my fingers crossed

[Lathum]

did someone PM Raiders Army, I would love to make my first pick tonight

[Maple Leafs]

I'm going to bed soon. If I can't make it tonight, I'll be around to make my pick sometime Saturday afternoon.

[Logan]

Was that scene really in the first Cosby Show episode? Truly a memorable one.

And I fully agree on Archie being a much more memorable dad than Lucy was a mom.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

That was my 1.1.

Mine also.

[Buccaneer]

Now Cosby is a real "dad", one of the best of all time. Fonz is a great pick too.

[Raiders Army]

1.6 Alex P. Keaton (Michael J. Fox) - Brother
Alex epitomized the Reagan era and sprung Michael J. Fox onto the big screen in the Back to the Future movies.

It's sort of fitting that as the Cosby Show closes out with pick 1.5, Family Ties follows with pick 1.6.

[wade moore]

Just a heads up - I woke up feeling really ill this morning. I'm at work, but probably going home. If I'm unavailable my brother, lordscarlet, will be trying to make picks for me.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Just a heads up - I woke up feeling really ill this morning. I'm at work, but probably going home. If I'm unavailable my brother, lordscarlet, will be trying to make picks for me.

Sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Just a heads up - I woke up feeling really ill this morning. I'm at work, but probably going home. If I'm unavailable my brother, lordscarlet, will be trying to make picks for me.

Hope you feel better. PM me a list with instructions if needed. Also my AIM name is in my profile if you want to reach me there.

[Dr. Sak]

From his list Maple Leafs Selects:

1.7 Homer Simpson - Dad

[Dr. Sak]

Remember...sending lists to me is good!

[wade moore]

I'm home now.

if you could PM me and lordscarlet when I'm up, that woudl be appreciated - going to veg on the couch for a bit and he can call me when I'm up.

[Maple Leafs]

After the first four picks, I was excited to see Dr. Huxtable and Alex Keaton still on the board. I was even wondering if I'd get really lucky and wind up with both.

Screw you guys.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

You got a great consolation prize, at least.

[DaddyTorgo]

really strong picks by everyone so far IMO. I'd say it's fairly neck-and-neck.

[DaddyTorgo]

Archie Bunker is definately a dad and cartman vaults into the early lead.

That totally would have been my pick. Talk about a guy who changed the genre of TV.

[Maple Leafs]

I think that at the end of the draft, bsak should assign everyone a grade for how quickly they picked. Voters could choose to factor that into their choices if they wanted to.

Might motivate us to move a little quicker and send a few lists.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I think there should be punishing auto-picks. Like one of the Cavemen from that show or something equally horrible.

[lordscarlet]

I normally put together a google spreadsheet of the picks, but I don't know if I will have time.

If I copy the format to a new sheet (which will do make multiple style lists based on a single data entry -- by category, by draft order, etc) would someone want to keep it up to date?

[Dr. Sak]

I'd try if it was easy enough....sounds a bit complicated...

[chesapeake]

Homer would have been my 1.1 -- the most iconic TV dad of the last 15 years.

I'm still surprised by the disdain for the Lucy pick. Maybe I simply watched it more growing up than others did.

[Lathum]

1.8- George Costanza- Best Friend

Best show ever.

[Mustang]

Good pick Lathum. Was on my short list for 1.12/1.13, but didn't think it would make it there.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Mustang

Good pick Lathum. Was on my short list for 1.12/1.13, but didn't think it would make it there.

thanks, I was surprised it made it to me.

I had Homer, Keaton and Cliff on my list as well.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Lathum

thanks, I was surprised it made it to me.

I had Homer, Keaton and Cliff on my list as well.

I would imagine that is because there is no family in Seinfeld. But, it appears others think it was a good pick. I'm not sure how it fits in to a "TV Family" draft, though. I guess it depends on your interpretation. I already argued with Wade about that one.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I'd try if it was easy enough....sounds a bit complicated...

It's very easy. Do you have a google docs account? If so, post it here or PM me. If not, send me an email address for me to send it to and it should let you edit it from that. I put in the data up to now.

It can be embedded in the first post, if you like. That's what I do when I run a draft, but you certainly don't have to.

For those that want to view it: FOFC TV Family Draft - Google Docs

[Dr. Sak]

bfsakowski AT gmail.com

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

I would imagine that is because there is no family in Seinfeld. But, it appears others think it was a good pick. I'm not sure how it fits in to a "TV Family" draft, though. I guess it depends on your interpretation. I already argued with Wade about that one.

IMO this statement makes no sense.

A. Jerry's and Georges parents are very central players in the show.
B. The catergory was best friend, last time I checked most peoples best friend isn't in their family.

I can't really think of another best friend that is more relevant from a more popular show.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Lathum

IMO this statement makes no sense.

A. Jerry's and Georges parents are very central players in the show.
B. The catergory was best friend, last time I checked most peoples best friend isn't in their family.

I can't really think of another best friend that is more relevant from a more popular show.

A. I think they were side characters at best. The show was not about their family. However, I can see the justification.
B. Yes, but it is the "Television Family" draft.

I think I will be the only one that feels this way, so it is not really worth arguing. I can concede that you can come up with logic to justify it, I just don't agree. In the end I doubt it will make a huge impact on my voting, but I hope it isn't a gateway into even looser interpretations.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I agree LS. I think it's a decent pick, but not a first rounder. Maybe the "television family" part of the draft is not as central as I interpreted.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Lathum

IMO this statement makes no sense.

I would think that he is narrowing the choices down to those Sitcoms that are about a family (e.g. Family Ties) although, I didn't take the draft to be that narrow in scope.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Mustang

I would think that he is narrowing the choices down to those Sitcoms that are about a family (e.g. Family Ties) although, I didn't take the draft to be that narrow in scope.

I didn't either fwiw, therefore LS and I argued about it

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

bfsakowski AT gmail.com

You should change your e-mail address. You didn't go to school for six years not to have an e-mail address of dr.bfsakowski at whereever dot com!

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by digamma

You should change your e-mail address. You didn't go to school for six years not to have an e-mail address of dr.bfsakowski at whereever dot com!

I do believe emailing dr+bfsakowski would still go to that email box.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I agree LS. I think it's a decent pick, but not a first rounder. Maybe the "television family" part of the draft is not as central as I interpreted.

IMO the family part isn't as central. I'm not sure how you can say the guys best friend from arguably that greatest sitcom ever isn't a first round pick, but thats the point of these things.

Originally Posted by Mustang

I would think that he is narrowing the choices down to those Sitcoms that are about a family (e.g. Family Ties) although, I didn't take the draft to be that narrow in scope.

If it is that narrow a scope it will be virtualy impossible to find enough people from "family" sitcoms.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I can think of a ton of "best friend" types who were much more a part of the family than George was part of Jerry's family. The Fonz, for instance, was practically part of the Cunningham family.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I can think of a ton of "best friend" types who were much more a part of the family than George was part of Jerry's family. The Fonz, for instance, was practically part of the Cunningham family.

I can think of others as well, I guess we just have a different interpretation of the rules.

[larrymcg421]

Well it says "Television Family" draft. I would've never considered George for that reason. That doesn't mean it's not a good pick. Some people will reward you. Some people will punish you. I certainly pushed boundaries in previous drafts, like my Gilgamesh pick in the history draft.

And I disagree that it will be virtually impossible with that scope. There have been a ton of family sitcoms over the years.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

And I disagree that it will be virtually impossible with that scope. There have been a ton of family sitcoms over the years.

sure there have been, but IMO I would rather take a person from Seinfeld and have to face some scrutiny rather then pull someone from 8 is Enough

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I can think of a ton of "best friend" types who were much more a part of the family than George was part of Jerry's family. The Fonz, for instance, was practically part of the Cunningham family.

If you want to get technical, the rules were best friend (of the lead character) so, The Fonz would be a horrible choice for that category because Happy Days didn't have a lead character and if anyone was the lead in Happy Days, it was the Fonz.

I'm just playing Devil's Advocate... I am in no way thinking The Fonz was a bad choice as the lead in Happy Days was the Cunningham family and The Fonz was the best friend to them and in the most technical interpretation of the rule, Jerry is the lead of Seinfeld and George is his best friend.

Aren't drafts fun.

[larrymcg421]

I don't quite get that. Richie was clearly the lead character in Happy Days.

Sure, Fonzie eventually ended up stealing the show, but it was Richie's show he was stealing.