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Old 10-11-2008, 10:01 PM   #151
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MBBF's "best team in the Big XII" is losing at home 28-17 late in the 4th quarter to the fourth best team in the Big XII south.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:03 PM   #152
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I'm really impressed with Oklahoma State and Mizzou.

I usually rate the SEC well above the other conferences, but the Big 12 looks like it is clearly the best this season.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:05 PM   #153
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So, who are the front runners in the Heisman race now?
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:08 PM   #154
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I just wanted to bring this up...

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I'm amazed that a game between the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the Big 12 warrants its own thread.

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I agree that OU and UT fans should get back to bashing each other. Someone has to take the mantle of '1st Loser' in this conference.

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I thought this was a trash talking thread.

FWIW......OU and MU are pretty much on par at this point. Texas is a small step behind, but they're still awfully good and could make the Sooner faithful fall into a deep depression with a win.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:18 PM   #155
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If Chase was 2 inches taller...he might have not thrown that last pick.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:18 PM   #156
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So, who are the front runners in the Heisman race now?

Probably Colt McCoy.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:19 PM   #157
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For you bettors out there. Is it just me or is Wisconsin a 6 point home dog a crazy line?

I hope no one took your advice
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:23 PM   #158
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MBBF has made a fool of himself with those asinine comments.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:28 PM   #159
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stupid call there... should've taken the safety and free kick.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:30 PM   #160
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Wow... this Florida team is looking impressive tonight.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:30 PM   #161
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:33 PM   #162
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:35 PM   #163
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Wow... this Florida team is looking impressive tonight.

It will be interesting to see where they are ranked tomorrow. They lost at home to an unranked team, then blew out the #3 ranked team in the country.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:45 PM   #164
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I'm really impressed with Oklahoma State and Mizzou.

I usually rate the SEC well above the other conferences, but the Big 12 looks like it is clearly the best this season.

Forget the arguments about which conference is better, look at the Big XII South division right now. It's sick. When the polls come out tomorrow, there will be four teams from that division in the top 12.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:45 PM   #165
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Big weekend. If anyone has missed Missouri play, watch them. They are my favorites to win the national championship. They are so fast on offense and Daniels just doesnt miss. They are fun to watch.

Please disregard above post.

Man I wish there was playoff. This season is the year we will really wish there was one.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:52 PM   #166
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Well kind of saw this one coming with LSU- they were not playing great, and beat a sub-par auburn team. QB position is to weak to come from behind, and offense was vanilla... oh well, always next year.

Have to beat Bama next week though
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:11 PM   #167
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Yes Izulde, you saw correctly. I did order the PPV but had to record it and watch it after I got home from a fundraiser tonight. Just finished blasting through the recording and can safely say that game should've been nowhere near a 3 point game. Arkansas should've won by 30. I didn't see the stats at the end, but the total yards have to have been something like 500 to 150 or so. Only repeated silly mistakes and miracles by Auburn kept them in the game. Once we stop giving gifts like that we are going to be a good team. When we upgrade the talent significantly over the next few years, we will be very good. I'm extremely excited.

And Michael Smith is amazing.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:32 AM   #168
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Old 10-12-2008, 07:52 AM   #169
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The Miners pulled off another win, 24-21 against Tulane, to get back to .500 after starting the season 0-3. The defense was horrible in the first half, but shut the Wave out in the second. QB Trevor Vittatoe was sharp, and RB Donald Buckram had his first career 100 yard game, all against statistically the league's best defense...
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:18 AM   #170
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I'm really impressed with Oklahoma State and Mizzou.

I usually rate the SEC well above the other conferences, but the Big 12 looks like it is clearly the best this season.


I have to agree. This year, the Big 12 is deep and the big powers of the SEC have some deficiencies.
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:19 AM   #171
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If Chase was 2 inches taller...he might have not thrown that last pick.


If Chase was 2 inches taller, he could see over the counter at the 7-11.
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Old 10-12-2008, 11:05 AM   #172
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Y I didn't see the stats at the end, but the total yards have to have been something like 500 to 150 or so.


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Old 10-12-2008, 04:10 PM   #173
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I tip my cap to Ok St.. I had no idea they were that good.

Shocks me Chase threw that INT at the end of the game. What a bummer...
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Old 10-12-2008, 10:20 PM   #174
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I'm still going through all the stages of grief from last night's game ... it took me until well after midnight before I could finally summon the motivation to drive back to KC.

It was disappointing to see Missouri make so many mistakes but we didn't beat ourselves -- OSU won the game, and they are a fine football team. I don't think last night was a fluke, and I believe they may well be on or near the tier with OU, Texas and MU. OSU won the line of scrimmage -- they ran well, stopped our run and pressured Chase while we didn't get sustained pressure on Robinson. However, it was a close game that hinged on any number of plays that could gone either direction and most of those plays went OSU's way.

I would not have said MU was the best team in the Big 12 heading into last night -- in my book it's OU until somebody supplants them. If Texas beats us next weekend, I'll put Texas at the head of the Big 12.

What perplexes me about MU is the pass defense. We lost one senior off the team that finished the season last year and I just don't think Terrell is the difference. No doubt William Moore is having a horrible season compared to last year, but so is the entire defensive backfield. I have no idea how both the corner and saftey both blew coverage on Davis' first TD catch. Maybe the pass defense was this bad last year but simply no one realized it and took the shots downfield. Ever since Illinois beat us with corner routes and fades in week one, everyone has been challenging us deep and hitting them.

I'm still stuck on the fourth-and-goal inside the one on the first drive ... a year ago, Pinkle goes for that TD, and if we get it I think we win the game. But Pinkle is "too nice" -- he's worried about running up scores and I think he passed on the TD because he thought MU was going to put 52 on OSU. It was classic overconfidence. I hope he gets over it quickly.

We'll see what happens in Austin. If we run the table, we can still get in the title picture with some help from the SEC and Big 10 and some dog knocking off USC again.
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Old 10-12-2008, 10:32 PM   #175
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I would not have said MU was the best team in the Big 12 heading into last night -- in my book it's OU until somebody supplants them. If Texas beats us next weekend, I'll put Texas at the head of the Big 12.

Texas beat OU, so they're the best team in the Big XII right now. They deserve that respect, and they've earned it. It's not easy to attain the #1 ranking, and they are going to find out that staying ranked #1 is even tougher than getting there.
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Old 10-12-2008, 10:50 PM   #176
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I know how you feel kcchief.. I had friends over and they all started playing rock band after the game and I went to bed.

That first drive, I could not believe Pinkel doesn't go for the TD.

We miss Pig Brown, no doubt about it.

As much as I love Mizzou.. I don't think we'll go into Texas and beat a team that looks like they are playing like a #1. Who knows though..
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:28 AM   #177
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I'm still stuck on the fourth-and-goal inside the one on the first drive ... a year ago, Pinkle goes for that TD, and if we get it I think we win the game. But Pinkle is "too nice" -- he's worried about running up scores and I think he passed on the TD because he thought MU was going to put 52 on OSU. It was classic overconfidence. I hope he gets over it quickly.

There's no way that's the reason he didn't go for the TD.
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:29 AM   #178
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Well kind of saw this one coming with LSU- they were not playing great, and beat a sub-par auburn team. QB position is to weak to come from behind, and offense was vanilla... oh well, always next year.

Have to beat Bama next week though

SEC is definitely overrated again this year. Maybe they have a couple of top teams, but LSU was way overrated, and Florida moving up to 4th is a joke.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:27 AM   #179
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:14 PM   #180
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:41 PM   #181
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There's no way that's the reason he didn't go for the TD.

Sure there is and most every sports talk radio host is speculating the same thing.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:45 PM   #182
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If a coach is worried about running up the score on their first drive, that is a sign that they took the preparation for the upcoming game way too lightly.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:45 PM   #183
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:57 PM   #184
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It's an accepted practice (from both sides of a blowout) that anything goes in the first half. There is simply no way that Pinkel is that stupid to allow for that much overconfidence. You can't build a program being worried about the other teams feelings on the first drive of the game.

It is far more likely that he tightened up because now he has something to lose. When Mizzou was trying to make a name for themselves, going for it in that situation is how you do it. When you've made a name for yourself, kicking it is how you keep it.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:09 AM   #185
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Still waiting for MBBF to post.

I'm guessing you missed the fact that I already posted that I would be in Vegas all weekend. You'll accept my apology that I didn't geek out badly enough to track down a computer at the Venetian to satisfy your need for my post.

Certainly, nothing I said was incorrect in the posts that I made. I stated that Mizzou's defense was not as bad as people made it out to be, especially the silly claims from Vegas Vic. I said that we should beat just about anyone if we held a team under 30 points. We held a very good team under 30 points on Saturday. Unfortunately, Chase just totally lost his head. That doesn't happen very often, yet it happened multiple times on Saturday. Take it for what it's worth. It sucks that if he would have just tossed any of those 3 interceptions out of bounds like he should have, we would have likely won.

With that said, this season is setting up remarkably similar to last year IF Mizzou can beat Texas next week. We have a very easy schedule after this next game down the home stretch and have the B12 Championship in our backyard. Mizzou still has a very good chance at getting to the National Championship thanks to the strength of the Big 12 conference and the relative weakness of the North teams.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:12 AM   #186
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So you went from Mizzou being better then OU and Texas to IF they can beat Texas?
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:19 AM   #187
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So you went from Mizzou being better then OU and Texas to IF they can beat Texas?

It's my attempt at modesty in order to pacify Vegas Vic's need to slam anyone with a whiff of confidence.
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