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Old 03-18-2008, 09:14 AM   #151
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I was talking with another person saying that exact same thing: I enjoyed this show more than the second season of Heroes. I hope it gets picked up for another season, since it's kind of hard to rate a show based on only one season. I'd like to see what else they can do.
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Old 03-18-2008, 12:34 PM   #152
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what happened with 24 to make it a bad show? i don't watch it, but i've heard constantly the last 2 season were awful - what were some of the bad storlyine or plot devices that made it so bad?
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:07 PM   #153
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Fox Confirms Renewal For 'Sarah Connor'

Apr-21-2008


It wasn't too much of a surprise, but Fox made it official.


The network known for axing shows like "Alien Nation" and "Firefly" well before their times took a rare step by renewing a science-fiction series, namely "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles."
Michael Ausiello of TV Guide reported rumors of the pickup last week, but others say it wasn't too much of a stretch since the show didn't do horribly in the ratings (it did lose 50 percent of its premiere, but that premiere came after highly rated playoff football), and it's attached to a franchise that is preparing to put out its first movie without actor and governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.


Fox has ordered 13 additional episodes for a second season of the show, but it's still not clear whether it will move to the fall, or take up a mid-season premiere like it did this past season.
The show, which is produced by Warner Bros. Television, stars Lena Headey as Sarah Connor, Thomas Dekker as John Connor and Summer Glau as the Terminator Cameron.


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Old 05-29-2008, 11:42 AM   #154
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Shirley Manson cast in 'Sarah Connor'

Garbage lead singer to be regular on 'Terminator' series

By Nellie Andreeva

May 29, 2008, 01:00 AM

Garbage lead singer Shirley Manson is venturing into acting in a big way with a regular role next season on Fox's "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles."

On "Sarah Connor," produced by Warner Bros. TV, Scottish musician Manson will play Catherine Weaver, the CEO of a cutting-edge high-tech company.

The sci-fi series, an offshoot from the "Terminator" feature franchise, is returning for a second season in the fall after launching in midseason as the highest-rated new scripted series of the 2007-08 season.

It stars Lena Headey as Sarah Connor, Thomas Dekker as her son John Connor and Summer Glau as terminator Cameron Phillips.

Formed in Madison, Wis., Garbage broke on the national scene in 1995 with its self-titled debut album, which spawned the modern rock hit "Only Happy When It Rains" and has gone double platinum. The quartet, which also includes Nirvana producer Butch Vig on drums, has released three other albums, the most recent in 2005.
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Old 05-29-2008, 01:56 PM   #155
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:09 PM   #156
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She's my woman. Hands off.

No, mine.


I will settle for a 3 way though
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:35 PM   #157
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:35 PM   #158
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:44 PM   #159
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What if I got a sex change?
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:44 AM   #160
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quick headsup, season premiere is tonight...

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Old 09-08-2008, 09:51 AM   #161
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:54 AM   #162
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Definitely looking forward to it.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:57 AM   #163
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i'm a bit surprised they are trying to put this up agains MNF...it seems to me it would be the same demographic.

not that i personally care much...thats what DVRs are for.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:24 PM   #164
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dvr is set! woohoo!

and in a couple weeks monday night really returns to greatness as we get HIMYM, 2.5 Men, and Big Bang Theory back also! DVR starts to work overtime!
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:30 PM   #165
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Heroes is on a Monday too.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:46 PM   #166
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Heroes is on a Monday too.

meh - unless the broads are finally going to get nekkid, that show is overrated IMO.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:52 PM   #167
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However, I think it is fair to suggest that Heroes and Terminator Chronicles probably have a similar audience.
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:00 PM   #168
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oh yeah. i suppose
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:14 PM   #169
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DVR is set. My wife and I were both surprised it was renewed. Its one of those shows that we like, but borders on being able to quickly go downhill if they do something stupid. Here's hoping for another solid, non-stupid season.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:45 PM   #170
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Agreed- have it on the DVR.

Glad they didn't go the "terminator-per-week" idea and went with a better serial format.

Speaking to Heroes and Terminator, I thought they were on at different times so you could easily watch both. Kindof a scifi two-fer.

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Old 09-08-2008, 08:00 PM   #171
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That was a great surprise visit...
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:01 PM   #172
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Agreed- have it on the DVR.

Glad they didn't go the "terminator-per-week" idea and went with a better serial format.

Speaking to Heroes and Terminator, I thought they were on at different times so you could easily watch both. Kindof a scifi two-fer.

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Old 09-08-2008, 08:04 PM   #173
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:16 PM   #174
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I know this sounds silly, but I figured there would be better, well, you know things that could do the same job for a lesser cost to the future robots.

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Old 09-09-2008, 10:35 PM   #175
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Excellent start to season 2.

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Old 09-10-2008, 05:51 AM   #176
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I agree. It was a pretty exciting episode. They continue to try to do more stylistically with the show than most, which is appreciated.

I am still not sure about the whole Cameron could turn evil at any minute thing. That seems like quite an awful risk.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:50 AM   #177
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I agree. It was a pretty exciting episode. They continue to try to do more stylistically with the show than most, which is appreciated.

I am still not sure about the whole Cameron could turn evil at any minute thing. That seems like quite an awful risk.

Or it could turn into a crutch. I'm hoping it doesn't happen again or they find a way to make it never happen again. Nice showing at the end. Didn't think they would go there so soon and I didn't see that coming. Thought we'd get the tried and tested evil corporation with weird CEO bad guy. Now we get that with a bonus.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:33 AM   #178
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Or it could turn into a crutch. I'm hoping it doesn't happen again or they find a way to make it never happen again. Nice showing at the end. Didn't think they would go there so soon and I didn't see that coming. Thought we'd get the tried and tested evil corporation with weird CEO bad guy. Now we get that with a bonus.

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Old 09-10-2008, 07:50 AM   #179
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And Shirley Manson just looks non-human .
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:57 AM   #180
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And Shirley Manson just looks non-human .

Didn't realize that was her

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Old 09-10-2008, 08:39 AM   #181
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Or it could turn into a crutch. I'm hoping it doesn't happen again or they find a way to make it never happen again. Nice showing at the end. Didn't think they would go there so soon and I didn't see that coming. Thought we'd get the tried and tested evil corporation with weird CEO bad guy. Now we get that with a bonus.

If it does happen again, it will be pretty lame (especially if they don't melt her ass right there on the spot). Going to the well once is fine and kind of cool. Twice? Not so much.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:52 AM   #182
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OK, so I just want to make sure I'm following along here:

Shirley Manson's character apparently has been running her company for some period of time, based on the interaction with the department heads and comments about stock price increasing under her watch.

So, how does this gel with what we have seen with the "learning process" with Arnold in T2 and with Cameron last season? Just how far along in the learning process is Shirley? From what we saw at the end, the experience of living with humans doesn't seem to have "humanized" her much at all.

This seems like a pretty important concept to the show overall, if not necessarily this particular episode. Hopefully the result is more satisfying than the conclusion of the Matrix movies when they mined similar themes.
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Old 09-10-2008, 09:04 AM   #183
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OK, so I just want to make sure I'm following along here:

Shirley Manson's character apparently has been running her company for some period of time, based on the interaction with the department heads and comments about stock price increasing under her watch.

So, how does this gel with what we have seen with the "learning process" with Arnold in T2 and with Cameron last season? Just how far along in the learning process is Shirley? From what we saw at the end, the experience of living with humans doesn't seem to have "humanized" her much at all.

This seems like a pretty important concept to the show overall, if not necessarily this particular episode. Hopefully the result is more satisfying than the conclusion of the Matrix movies when they mined similar themes.

Maybe the T-1000's are better than the older, less advanced models at the whole "learning process" thing?

Or maybe the T-1000 just recently killed the real Shirley - the one responsible for the whole stock price increase - and took her form?

Both would seem plausible enough.
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:12 PM   #184
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so can anyone tell me what happened in the last minute of tonights show...the dvr shut off right after Cameronsaid that she got the necklace at a thrift store.
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:43 PM   #185
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Nothing that I recall...
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:29 PM   #186
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Nothing, just previews. I'm slowly losing interest in this show. Hoping it picks up some in the next couple of episodes.
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:37 PM   #187
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Nothing, just previews. I'm slowly losing interest in this show. Hoping it picks up some in the next couple of episodes.

Rumors have it that it's toast at the midpoint of this season if ratings don't kick up which isn't very likely since it's against Monday Night Football.
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:59 PM   #188
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I actually like this show a lot.
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Old 10-02-2008, 03:56 PM   #189
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i agree that this weeks episode was not very good. it explained some things, but didnt really have any dramatic grip moments.
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:27 PM   #190
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I actually like this show a lot.

I am right there with ya. I think this show has been very good and look forward to seeing how it all plays out.

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Old 10-02-2008, 05:11 PM   #191
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This show works when they bring the future into it. When it's just an episode of them being chased the whole time, it's just blah. If they don't incorporate some of the future into each episode, I don't think it'll last.
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:49 AM   #192
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So what was up with Cameron taking off her jacket before entering John's room. Was she trying to seduce him...?
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:54 AM   #193
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I was thinking that she used it as a manipulation tool. I'm thinking we will get some story soon about how she is trying to merge her human memories with her non-human shell. Couple hints about her making mistakes, etc through out the episode is making me think that.
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:39 AM   #194
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I hope Cromartie isn't back... I hate when a show kills someone and then brings them back. Especially if they've been hyping it as much as this show has. Maybe Cromartie dying was a red herring, and we'll still get someone else dead.

Overall though, I'm still liking this show. I think it's amazing that with three movies and another on the way, they've managed to actually stay pretty consistent with the story in those (well two movies at least).
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:45 AM   #195
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I agree, good show so far. I had my doubts that they could turn it around in my eyes, but they did and I'm liking it again. As long as the writers don't get lazy, I'm in.
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Ok, it's back as of last week but has been moved to Friday. Just saw last week's on DVR and it starts out this half of the season nicely. I still am curious what they are going to do with the Catherine Weaver (Manson)-John Henry plot as they hinted but did no real reveals.

One of the things that I give them a lot of credit for is that they have done really well with the "time war" part of the plot. It's really hard to do time travel well, particularly something where there are characters coming backwards in time to change the future.

It's as has been said previously in this thread, it's a show that could fall off a cliff at any time and the viewer knows it but they so far have avoided any of those pitfalls, which makes it that much more rewarding.

I really want to see where they go with this show but I suspect we won't get the chance.

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Old 02-17-2009, 10:06 AM   #197
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I enjoy this show, and like the whole Terminator story. I think this show does a really good job of referencing past events from the movies, but also not setting stuff up for future movies (since I doubt they can do something like that). If this show gets canceled (as alluded to in the Dollhouse thread), I'll be sad.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:40 AM   #198
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Ouch, Friday. That's where shows are sent to die.
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As oposed to opposite MNF on Mondays?

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Once MNF went to ESPN, I wouldn't worry about it as much. Plus with DVR, it doesn't matter. Pretty soon, watching TV Live will be rare.

Nice start, good acting. I'm hoping the series sticks for another season. If there is doubt, wrap up the story as best as you can. I still miss Pushing Daisies.
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