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Old 12-01-2007, 09:54 PM   #151
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What a crock. This is a rivalry game, and they throw a flag on a player celebrating a 4th down stop.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:54 PM   #152
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So does Georgia make it without playing in the SEC title game? That would be hilarious!!!
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:55 PM   #153
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Not sure I'd be handing off to a freshman right now.
McCoy is a safe a bet as you can get from Pitt's point of view. He's a solid player.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:55 PM   #154
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:55 PM   #155
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:56 PM   #156
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:56 PM   #157
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:56 PM   #158
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They do release the individual ballots tomorrow to see where each voter placed each team right?
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:56 PM   #159
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:56 PM   #160
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If I'm Pitt, I tell the punter to run into the end zone and run out the clock and take a safety.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM   #161
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Over. Pitt beats West Virginia, crooked BE referees 13-9.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM   #162
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM   #163
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McCoy is a safe a bet as you can get from Pitt's point of view. He's a solid player.

Yeah, but maybe not quite as disciplined at this stage, like he just jumped up on that last play, which was not a smart decision.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM   #164
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and OU is up by 14
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM   #165
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So does Georgia make it without playing in the SEC title game? That would be hilarious!!!

I was just telling my wife that I hope each indivdual voter considers this when they fill out their ballots...hopefully they take Conf. Championships into accoutn and re-shuffle the deck.

FWIW, I think LSU is the most deserving two loss team.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM   #166
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:58 PM   #167
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:58 PM   #168
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:58 PM   #169
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This is like 2001 when there were several teams that could have made the BCS title game and lost on the last week of the season.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:59 PM   #170
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This is like 2001 when there were several teams that could have made the BCS title game and lost on the last week of the season.

And that's the same year that Nebraska went to the title game without even playing int heir conference championship.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:59 PM   #171
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FWIW, I think LSU is the most deserving two loss team.

I think that's obviously true. If it weren't for stupid overtimes, they'd be 11-0-2 right now.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:00 PM   #172
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This is like 2001 when there were several teams that could have made the BCS title game and lost on the last week of the season.
Nebraska had to steal Michael Bishop's shot at a national title And it was Edgerrin James' coming out party down in Miami.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:03 PM   #173
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That was 1998.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:03 PM   #174
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:07 PM   #175
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Let's not forget arguments from Va Tech, Kansas, USC, and if they win Oklahoma for that other spot in championship game.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:11 PM   #176
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Let's not forget arguments from Va Tech, Kansas, USC, and if they win Oklahoma for that other spot in championship game.

Meh. To mean it should be between LSU and Hawaii.

VaTech got pasted by LSU. USC lost at home to Stanford. Kansas = Georgia, if you're not even top 2 in your conference, how can you be top 2 in the country. Oklahoma would have the best argument other than LSU.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:14 PM   #177
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:14 PM   #178
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Meh. To mean it should be between LSU and Hawaii.
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Why does everyone forget about Hawaii's game against Washington? Even Hawaii's coach this week was talking about his undefeated season forgot he was playing Was this week.

I think Ty's team has a good shot at beating Hawaii tonight.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:16 PM   #179
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didnt they pass a rule that you cant represent unless you win your conference?

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Old 12-01-2007, 10:17 PM   #180
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Why does everyone forget about Hawaii's game against Washington? Even Hawaii's coach this week was talking about his undefeated season forgot he was playing Was this week.

I think Ty's team has a good shot at beating Hawaii tonight.

They way things have shaken out today, it would not be much of a shock to see the Huskies win. Hell, I think my beloved Horns might have a shot at a BCS game will all of the losses today.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:17 PM   #181
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That look on Daniel's face pretty well sums it up.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:17 PM   #182
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I love it. My vote is to do away with the contrived Championship Bowl and just have the regular matchups in the normal bowls. Anything more would be just as contrived and stupid.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:17 PM   #183
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:18 PM   #184
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1. The officials from the WVU-Pitt game had been paid by either WVU or the Big East itself. How bad is it that I honestly think that the Big East purposely was trying to fix that game so their conference could make the title game?

2. Georgia and Kansas simply don't have a leg to stand on at this point. You can't play for the title if you can't win your conference.

3. Leaves VTech, LSU, Oklahoma, and USC in my opinion.

4. LSU beat VTech so VTech is out.

Oklahoma: losses at COL by 3 and at TT. Big Wins versus Missouri twice and Texas.

LSU: losses at UK by 6 and home against ARK by 2, both in OT. Big Wins versus V. Tech, Florida, Auburn, Tenn.

USC: losses home against Stanford by 1 and at Oregon by 7. Big Wins versus ???? Arizona State?


Who do you vote for?

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Old 12-01-2007, 10:18 PM   #186
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LSU vs. Ohio St. NC game.

That would be my guess and hope.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:19 PM   #187
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Why does everyone forget about Hawaii's game against Washington? Even Hawaii's coach this week was talking about his undefeated season forgot he was playing Was this week.

I think Ty's team has a good shot at beating Hawaii tonight.

Even if Hawaii loses, they'll still be one of only 2 1-loss teams. I know they'd have no shot even at a BCS bowl in that case, but... I'm just saying, they'd have a better case for the National Championship than Georgia, for example.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:20 PM   #188
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The whole system sucks. If they're not going to have a playoff, go back to the freaking old way. The only reason they won't have a playoff is because of "bowl tradition" so suck it up and just go all the way back because this system blows.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:21 PM   #189
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They way things have shaken out today, it would not be much of a shock to see the Huskies win.

Hell, the ways things have gone this season, I'd say the Huskies ought to be about a 10 point favorite
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:21 PM   #190
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Did Mizzou B-Ball Fan make the trip to San Antonio? For all the shit he was talking in the Week 13 thread, he hasn't posted once in this thread.

I feel bad for the other Mizzou fans, but not for him.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:21 PM   #191
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Even if Hawaii loses, they'll still be one of only 2 1-loss teams. I know they'd have no shot even at a BCS bowl in that case, but... I'm just saying, they'd have a better case for the National Championship than Georgia, for example.

No they don't, that's just silly. Pick one of the top 10 teams and most of any of their losses would be greater than all of Hawaii's wins. You got to play someone in order to be taken seriously.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:22 PM   #192
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:23 PM   #193
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1. The officials from the WVU-Pitt game had been paid by either Pitt or the Big East itself. How bad is it that I honestly think that the Big East purposely was trying to fix that game so their conference could make the title game?

I think you meant paid by WVU but I'd have to agree. Especially the holding call on that 3rd down conversion then the lack of a pass interference or defensive holding call on the next play.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:23 PM   #194
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The whole system sucks. If they're not going to have a playoff, go back to the freaking old way. The only reason they won't have a playoff is because of "bowl tradition" so suck it up and just go all the way back because this system blows.
+1

I don't have a dog in the hunt of who goes. But as far as compelling TV, it's just not fun, it's not interesting and the entire sport is predicated upon arguing about who's better.

It really sucks.

I hope Hawaii wins, just to further expose the absurdity of the system. Besides, if Washington wants to fire Ty, I'd hate for him to hang on another year and actually have success. I'd rather him get canned and let the Buck Showalter effect take hold once again (not that Notre Dame won the World Series after he left, but go with it...)
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:24 PM   #195
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This is like 2001 when there were several teams that could have made the BCS title game and lost on the last week of the season.

Or like 1998 when UCLA and Kansas State lost on the last weekend
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:24 PM   #196
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No they don't, that's just silly. Pick one of the top 10 teams and most of any of their losses would be greater than all of Hawaii's wins. You got to play someone in order to be taken seriously.

Were you not impressed by their struggling against powerhouses Louisiana Tech and San Jose State?
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:25 PM   #197
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I don't think Ohio State would be able to stop Hawaii's offense.
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No they don't, that's just silly. Pick one of the top 10 teams and most of any of their losses would be greater than all of Hawaii's wins. You got to play someone in order to be taken seriously.

I tend to agree, but my point is just that you can construct a case for a 1-loss Hawaii over all the 2-loss teams - not that that case would necessarily be convincing. You couldn't even construct a case for Kansas, or Georgia (imo).
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:25 PM   #199
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So Mizzou might drop from the #1 team in the country to out of the BCS all together?
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I love Mark May's thinking, basically that Ohio State doesn't deserve to play in the NC because they haven't played for 3 weeks and they didn't play all the teams in the Big Ten.

They'd been 3+ TD favorites against Iowa and Indiana, and its not like they didn't play 12 games.
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