College Football week 14 - Page 4

cartman · 12-01-2007, 09:54 PM

What a crock. This is a rivalry game, and they throw a flag on a player celebrating a 4th down stop.

kingfc22 · 12-01-2007, 09:54 PM

So does Georgia make it without playing in the SEC title game? That would be hilarious!!!

VPI97 · 12-01-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Not sure I'd be handing off to a freshman right now.

McCoy is a safe a bet as you can get from Pitt's point of view. He's a solid player.

BishopMVP · 12-01-2007, 09:55 PM

Announcers assume WVa will be given a 4th timeout, and they might be right.

CU Tiger · 12-01-2007, 09:55 PM

didnt they pass a rule that you cant represent unless you win your conference?

BishopMVP · 12-01-2007, 09:56 PM

I would take a safety rather than kick to Devine or Slaton.

kingfc22 · 12-01-2007, 09:56 PM

Run into the endzone

miami_fan · 12-01-2007, 09:56 PM

They do release the individual ballots tomorrow to see where each voter placed each team right?

CU Tiger · 12-01-2007, 09:56 PM

wannstache does it

cartman · 12-01-2007, 09:56 PM

If I'm Pitt, I tell the punter to run into the end zone and run out the clock and take a safety.

BishopMVP · 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM

Over. Pitt beats West Virginia, crooked BE referees 13-9.

mauchow · 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

larrymcg421 · 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

McCoy is a safe a bet as you can get from Pitt's point of view. He's a solid player.

Yeah, but maybe not quite as disciplined at this stage, like he just jumped up on that last play, which was not a smart decision.

CU Tiger · 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM

and OU is up by 14

VPI97 · 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

So does Georgia make it without playing in the SEC title game? That would be hilarious!!!

I was just telling my wife that I hope each indivdual voter considers this when they fill out their ballots...hopefully they take Conf. Championships into accoutn and re-shuffle the deck.

FWIW, I think LSU is the most deserving two loss team.

Young Drachma · 12-01-2007, 09:57 PM

Game, set, match, Pittsburgh.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-01-2007, 09:58 PM

This is awesome.

kingfc22 · 12-01-2007, 09:58 PM

Down with the BCS!

cartman · 12-01-2007, 09:58 PM

This is like 2001 when there were several teams that could have made the BCS title game and lost on the last week of the season.

larrymcg421 · 12-01-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

This is like 2001 when there were several teams that could have made the BCS title game and lost on the last week of the season.

And that's the same year that Nebraska went to the title game without even playing int heir conference championship.

st.cronin · 12-01-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

FWIW, I think LSU is the most deserving two loss team.

I think that's obviously true. If it weren't for stupid overtimes, they'd be 11-0-2 right now.

BishopMVP · 12-01-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

This is like 2001 when there were several teams that could have made the BCS title game and lost on the last week of the season.

Nebraska had to steal Michael Bishop's shot at a national title

And it was Edgerrin James' coming out party down in Miami.

larrymcg421 · 12-01-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Nebraska had to steal Michael Bishop's shot at a national title

And it was Edgerrin James' coming out party down in Miami.

That was 1998.

Z²+ · 12-01-2007, 10:03 PM

HAIL TO PITT

miami_fan · 12-01-2007, 10:07 PM

Let's not forget arguments from Va Tech, Kansas, USC, and if they win Oklahoma for that other spot in championship game.

st.cronin · 12-01-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Let's not forget arguments from Va Tech, Kansas, USC, and if they win Oklahoma for that other spot in championship game.

Meh. To mean it should be between LSU and Hawaii.

VaTech got pasted by LSU. USC lost at home to Stanford. Kansas = Georgia, if you're not even top 2 in your conference, how can you be top 2 in the country. Oklahoma would have the best argument other than LSU.

BishopMVP · 12-01-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

That was 1998.

Touche sir.

14ers · 12-01-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Meh. To mean it should be between LSU and Hawaii.
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Why does everyone forget about Hawaii's game against Washington? Even Hawaii's coach this week was talking about his undefeated season forgot he was playing Was this week.

I think Ty's team has a good shot at beating Hawaii tonight.

Joe · 12-01-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

didnt they pass a rule that you cant represent unless you win your conference?

no such rule

cartman · 12-01-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 14ers

Why does everyone forget about Hawaii's game against Washington? Even Hawaii's coach this week was talking about his undefeated season forgot he was playing Was this week.

I think Ty's team has a good shot at beating Hawaii tonight.

They way things have shaken out today, it would not be much of a shock to see the Huskies win. Hell, I think my beloved Horns might have a shot at a BCS game will all of the losses today.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-01-2007, 10:17 PM

That look on Daniel's face pretty well sums it up.

Buccaneer · 12-01-2007, 10:17 PM

I love it. My vote is to do away with the contrived Championship Bowl and just have the regular matchups in the normal bowls. Anything more would be just as contrived and stupid.

BishopMVP · 12-01-2007, 10:17 PM

35-17 OU

LSU vs. Ohio St. NC game.

Buccaneer · 12-01-2007, 10:18 PM

Oh, and Go Washington!

rowech · 12-01-2007, 10:18 PM

1. The officials from the WVU-Pitt game had been paid by either WVU or the Big East itself. How bad is it that I honestly think that the Big East purposely was trying to fix that game so their conference could make the title game?

2. Georgia and Kansas simply don't have a leg to stand on at this point. You can't play for the title if you can't win your conference.

3. Leaves VTech, LSU, Oklahoma, and USC in my opinion.

4. LSU beat VTech so VTech is out.

Oklahoma: losses at COL by 3 and at TT. Big Wins versus Missouri twice and Texas.

LSU: losses at UK by 6 and home against ARK by 2, both in OT. Big Wins versus V. Tech, Florida, Auburn, Tenn.

USC: losses home against Stanford by 1 and at Oregon by 7. Big Wins versus ???? Arizona State?

Who do you vote for?

Buccaneer · 12-01-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

35-17 OU

LSU vs. Ohio St. NC game.

That would be my guess and hope.

st.cronin · 12-01-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 14ers

Why does everyone forget about Hawaii's game against Washington? Even Hawaii's coach this week was talking about his undefeated season forgot he was playing Was this week.

I think Ty's team has a good shot at beating Hawaii tonight.

Even if Hawaii loses, they'll still be one of only 2 1-loss teams. I know they'd have no shot even at a BCS bowl in that case, but... I'm just saying, they'd have a better case for the National Championship than Georgia, for example.

rowech · 12-01-2007, 10:20 PM

The whole system sucks. If they're not going to have a playoff, go back to the freaking old way. The only reason they won't have a playoff is because of "bowl tradition" so suck it up and just go all the way back because this system blows.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-01-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

They way things have shaken out today, it would not be much of a shock to see the Huskies win.

Hell, the ways things have gone this season, I'd say the Huskies ought to be about a 10 point favorite

cartman · 12-01-2007, 10:21 PM

Did Mizzou B-Ball Fan make the trip to San Antonio? For all the shit he was talking in the Week 13 thread, he hasn't posted once in this thread.

I feel bad for the other Mizzou fans, but not for him.

Buccaneer · 12-01-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Even if Hawaii loses, they'll still be one of only 2 1-loss teams. I know they'd have no shot even at a BCS bowl in that case, but... I'm just saying, they'd have a better case for the National Championship than Georgia, for example.

No they don't, that's just silly. Pick one of the top 10 teams and most of any of their losses would be greater than all of Hawaii's wins. You got to play someone in order to be taken seriously.

14ers · 12-01-2007, 10:22 PM

The Sports Reporters should be fun tomorrow morning listening to John Sauders defend the BCS system.

Balldog · 12-01-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

1. The officials from the WVU-Pitt game had been paid by either Pitt or the Big East itself. How bad is it that I honestly think that the Big East purposely was trying to fix that game so their conference could make the title game?

I think you meant paid by WVU but I'd have to agree. Especially the holding call on that 3rd down conversion then the lack of a pass interference or defensive holding call on the next play.

Young Drachma · 12-01-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

The whole system sucks. If they're not going to have a playoff, go back to the freaking old way. The only reason they won't have a playoff is because of "bowl tradition" so suck it up and just go all the way back because this system blows.

+1

I don't have a dog in the hunt of who goes. But as far as compelling TV, it's just not fun, it's not interesting and the entire sport is predicated upon arguing about who's better.

It really sucks.

I hope Hawaii wins, just to further expose the absurdity of the system. Besides, if Washington wants to fire Ty, I'd hate for him to hang on another year and actually have success. I'd rather him get canned and let the Buck Showalter effect take hold once again (not that Notre Dame won the World Series after he left, but go with it...)

MrBug708 · 12-01-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

This is like 2001 when there were several teams that could have made the BCS title game and lost on the last week of the season.

Or like 1998 when UCLA and Kansas State lost on the last weekend

Joe · 12-01-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

No they don't, that's just silly. Pick one of the top 10 teams and most of any of their losses would be greater than all of Hawaii's wins. You got to play someone in order to be taken seriously.

Were you not impressed by their struggling against powerhouses Louisiana Tech and San Jose State?

cartman · 12-01-2007, 10:25 PM

I don't think Ohio State would be able to stop Hawaii's offense.

st.cronin · 12-01-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

No they don't, that's just silly. Pick one of the top 10 teams and most of any of their losses would be greater than all of Hawaii's wins. You got to play someone in order to be taken seriously.

I tend to agree, but my point is just that you can construct a case for a 1-loss Hawaii over all the 2-loss teams - not that that case would necessarily be convincing. You couldn't even construct a case for Kansas, or Georgia (imo).

miami_fan · 12-01-2007, 10:25 PM

So Mizzou might drop from the #1 team in the country to out of the BCS all together?

Balldog · 12-01-2007, 10:25 PM

I love Mark May's thinking, basically that Ohio State doesn't deserve to play in the NC because they haven't played for 3 weeks and they didn't play all the teams in the Big Ten.

They'd been 3+ TD favorites against Iowa and Indiana, and its not like they didn't play 12 games.

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cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	What a crock. This is a rivalry game, and they throw a flag on a player celebrating a 4th down stop. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	So does Georgia make it without playing in the SEC title game? That would be hilarious!!! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

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cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	If I'm Pitt, I tell the punter to run into the end zone and run out the clock and take a safety. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Announcers assume WVa will be given a 4th timeout, and they might be right.

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CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	didnt they pass a rule that you cant represent unless you win your conference?

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BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	I would take a safety rather than kick to Devine or Slaton.

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CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	wannstache does it

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BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Over. Pitt beats West Virginia, crooked BE referees 13-9.

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mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	and OU is up by 14

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cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	This is like 2001 when there were several teams that could have made the BCS title game and lost on the last week of the season. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Let's not forget arguments from Va Tech, Kansas, USC, and if they win Oklahoma for that other spot in championship game. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

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Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I love it. My vote is to do away with the contrived Championship Bowl and just have the regular matchups in the normal bowls. Anything more would be just as contrived and stupid.

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BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	35-17 OU LSU vs. Ohio St. NC game.

12-01-2007, 10:18 PM	#184
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Oh, and Go Washington!

12-01-2007, 10:18 PM	#185
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	1. The officials from the WVU-Pitt game had been paid by either WVU or the Big East itself. How bad is it that I honestly think that the Big East purposely was trying to fix that game so their conference could make the title game? 2. Georgia and Kansas simply don't have a leg to stand on at this point. You can't play for the title if you can't win your conference. 3. Leaves VTech, LSU, Oklahoma, and USC in my opinion. 4. LSU beat VTech so VTech is out. Oklahoma: losses at COL by 3 and at TT. Big Wins versus Missouri twice and Texas. LSU: losses at UK by 6 and home against ARK by 2, both in OT. Big Wins versus V. Tech, Florida, Auburn, Tenn. USC: losses home against Stanford by 1 and at Oregon by 7. Big Wins versus ???? Arizona State? Who do you vote for? Last edited by rowech : 12-01-2007 at 10:33 PM.

12-01-2007, 10:20 PM	#188
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	The whole system sucks. If they're not going to have a playoff, go back to the freaking old way. The only reason they won't have a playoff is because of "bowl tradition" so suck it up and just go all the way back because this system blows.

12-01-2007, 10:21 PM	#190
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Did Mizzou B-Ball Fan make the trip to San Antonio? For all the shit he was talking in the Week 13 thread, he hasn't posted once in this thread. I feel bad for the other Mizzou fans, but not for him. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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12-01-2007, 10:25 PM	#197
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I don't think Ohio State would be able to stop Hawaii's offense. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	So Mizzou might drop from the #1 team in the country to out of the BCS all together? __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-01-2007, 10:25 PM	#200
Balldog Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Macomb, MI	I love Mark May's thinking, basically that Ohio State doesn't deserve to play in the NC because they haven't played for 3 weeks and they didn't play all the teams in the Big Ten. They'd been 3+ TD favorites against Iowa and Indiana, and its not like they didn't play 12 games.

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