The thread of the 2008-2009 NBA Season - Page 4

Atocep · 12-18-2008, 06:11 AM

See Cleveland fans, Boozer was only looking our for his family.

ESPN - Utah Jazz's Carlos Boozer plans to opt out at end of season

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- It is time to stop guessing whether Carlos Boozer will opt out of the final season of his contract with the Utah Jazz.

For the first time, Boozer said unequivocally Wednesday night that he will indeed opt out of his contract at the end of the season, foregoing a guaranteed $12.66 million to become an unrestricted free agent.

"I'm opting out. No matter what, I'm going to get a raise regardless," Boozer told ESPN.com. "I am going to opt out, I don't see why I wouldn't, I think it's a very good business decision for me and my family, but I'd also like to see what happens with the Jazz and stay here."

Groundhog · 12-18-2008, 06:33 AM

Paul Millsap has been pretty amazing for the Jazz - over the past 10 games Millsap is averaging 18.6pts 11.5rebs on .562 shooting - I'm not so sure that Boozer would be the highest of priorities, especially given his penchant for disappearing and going soft in the big games.

The real question is who wants to tie money up in Boozer, given that everyone seems to be waiting until 2010?

whomario · 12-25-2008, 08:58 AM

Just a bump because today has some really great matchups, highlighted of course by the Lakers and Celtics in LA. It´s not that often you have teams with a combined winning% of 88 meet 30 games into the year.

MrBug708 · 12-25-2008, 08:06 PM

Good Christmas game for the Lakers

DaddyTorgo · 12-26-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Simmons on espn.com

Look, I think we learned one thing other than it's hard to beat a good team at home when they're getting every call -- when Kobe is the best guy on the floor, the Lakers win. He was brilliant Thursday. That's why the Lakers won. For whatever reason, he didn't do it in the Finals and that's why they lost. So basically, I learned nothing other than that my dad has a new nickname for Tony Allen: "The Heart Attack." And just an FYI: You can't get revenge for a 39-point loss in the deciding game of an NBA Finals by beating someone in a regular-season game at home. I am almost positive.

Good win for the Lakers. I thought the Celtics played like shit frankly. The fact they didn't take it to the hole early and often and get free throws and get Lakers bigs in foul trouble in the first half was pretty much inexcusable. They were shooting shitty jump shots all night long - I'm frankly amazed the game was as close as it was.

Karlifornia · 12-26-2008, 12:54 PM

Shut the fuck up, Simmons.

molson · 12-28-2008, 10:41 PM

Geez, a crisp 45-point win for the Celtics over the Warriors gets them back on track, that's the same margin as that Knick game last year.

DaddyTorgo · 12-28-2008, 10:44 PM

lol they're going to be fine

GREEN 18!

Buccaneer · 01-06-2009, 09:01 PM

I know the NBA sucks very badly but seeing Lebron and the "crab dribble" makes me puke. How the fuck does a professional player think he should get away with taking (what looks like) 4 steps to the basket? I know one of the reasons cited for the repulsiveness of the NBA (the college game is still cool) is all of the traveling. Has it gotten this bad?

Groundhog · 01-06-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I know the NBA sucks very badly but seeing Lebron and the "crab dribble" makes me puke. How the fuck does a professional player think he should get away with taking (what looks like) 4 steps to the basket? I know one of the reasons cited for the repulsiveness of the NBA (the college game is still cool) is all of the traveling. Has it gotten this bad?

I've seen more travels called this season than I think I have in the past 2 or 3 seasons combined. Granted, they still get away with plenty more, but I think they are trying to cut down on the really obvious ones, anyhow.

Atocep · 01-07-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Speaking of Durant, a lot of people were hard on him last season (I was definitely one of them) but he played much better in the 2nd half offensively and looked like he could have huge season offensively this year. So far this season, he's shown zero improvement from last, though. The fact that he still isn't defending, shows no interest in rebounding, and doesnt have a clue how to pass has to be a concern.

Revisiting this, I don't get to watch him play anywhere near as much as I did last season but Scott Brooks moving him to SF seems to be what he needed. He's actually rebounding like someone his size should, he's shooting better, and getting to the free throw line a little bit more.

I don't think he's as athletic as he was made out to be coming out of Texas, but it looks like his upside is higher than I thought based off of his play at shooting guard.

Atocep · 01-07-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I know the NBA sucks very badly but seeing Lebron and the "crab dribble" makes me puke. How the fuck does a professional player think he should get away with taking (what looks like) 4 steps to the basket? I know one of the reasons cited for the repulsiveness of the NBA (the college game is still cool) is all of the traveling. Has it gotten this bad?

This isn't about traveling, but more about the NBA sucks comment (also not really directed at Bucc, just frustrated because I have friends here that say the same thing even though they haven't watched a game in at least 5 years).

I think the NBA is still being judged by the Pat Riley with the Knicks years. It may not be as entertaining as it was during the 80s when everyone just threw shots up as soon as they got past half court, but offenses today are actually more efficient than in the 80s and the pace is a lot faster than it was in the late 90s.

There's some great basketball being played now, but "the NBA sucks" is all a lot of people want to think.

Groundhog · 01-07-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Revisiting this, I don't get to watch him play anywhere near as much as I did last season but Scott Brooks moving him to SF seems to be what he needed. He's actually rebounding like someone his size should, he's shooting better, and getting to the free throw line a little bit more.

I don't think he's as athletic as he was made out to be coming out of Texas, but it looks like his upside is higher than I thought based off of his play at shooting guard.

And it wasn't at all surprising. Did anybody outside of the Sonics coaching staff think Durant would actually be an NBA SG? SF is clearly his position, rather than hanging on the perimeter exclusively.

Chief Rum · 01-08-2009, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

This isn't about traveling, but more about the NBA sucks comment (also not really directed at Bucc, just frustrated because I have friends here that say the same thing even though they haven't watched a game in at least 5 years).

I think the NBA is still being judged by the Pat Riley with the Knicks years. It may not be as entertaining as it was during the 80s when everyone just threw shots up as soon as they got past half court, but offenses today are actually more efficient than in the 80s and the pace is a lot faster than it was in the late 90s.

There's some great basketball being played now, but "the NBA sucks" is all a lot of people want to think.

I was thinking the exact same thing when I read Bucc's post yesterday. The NBA game today is actually a lot of fun and interesting, and I enjoy watching most any game now. It has improved tons from the thug game of the late 90s and earlier this decade.

stevew · 01-08-2009, 01:46 PM

But it's so much easier just to say it sucks. If they would just cut down the length of the contracts I think play would get even better.

Groundhog · 01-08-2009, 04:15 PM

Whenever I watch a game from the early 90s in particular I'm amazed at the disparity in athleticism between the very athletic guys (Jordan a prime example) and the other guys on the court. It's like he's three steps ahead of everybody. You just don't see that in today's NBA with everybody as athletic as they are.

stevew · 01-08-2009, 05:52 PM

JJ Hickson made some amazing athletic move the other night. It got me thinking about how the Cavs haven't had an athletic 4 since Larry Nance. I'm hoping JJ develops.

Groundhog · 01-08-2009, 05:55 PM

Me too. I wasn't happy at all when we drafted Hickson, but I've come around with the hints of potential we've seen from him so far.

stevew · 01-10-2009, 07:52 PM

Nobody watched the game last night?

RainMaker · 01-10-2009, 08:17 PM

I can't believe my Bulls are a game out of the 8th playoff spot. Would be nice to see them get in and give Rose a little playoff experience (even if it's a 4-0 sweep).

The Bulls need to dump Larry Hughes fast. I would also not be against moving Gordon too. The team really needs to build around Rose and those guys are stunting his growth. Sure they won't be as good without them, but this team isn't contending for anything. It's filled with too many guards playing for themselves. Del Negro is too pussy to bench Hughes because he knows he'll cry to the media.

DaddyTorgo · 01-10-2009, 08:30 PM

problem is you can't dump hughes - nobody wants him.

although this is the nba - i guess his massive contract gives him value when it gets close to expiring

RainMaker · 01-10-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

problem is you can't dump hughes - nobody wants him.

although this is the nba - i guess his massive contract gives him value when it gets close to expiring

He's got one year left after this. It probably makes him valuable this coming offseason. The Bulls are going to refuse to add years or salary as they want to be in the running for Wade/Lebron/Bosh/etc in 2010. The problem is that he's such a cancer that it hurts Rose's development.

If I was the Bulls, the next time he mouths off to the media, I'd send him home. Sure it sucks to pay someone who isn't playing, but he is hurting the long term development of this team. Not just for Rose, but for guys like Sefolosha who the Bulls need to find out whether he can play.

stevew · 01-10-2009, 09:55 PM

The trade to dump Gooden and Hughes has been amazing for the Cavs. It's sad ill take a declining and overpaid Big Ben instead. Neither Hughes or gooden are "winning" players. They should be 8th or 9th men on a good team.

Delonte West also came over in the trade and has been a key contributor.

Hughes should be good to trade next year. The Bulls have a really bad mix of players. It's starting to look like Chandler Curry deja vu with the high picks they've missed on. Other than Rose

Big Fo · 01-13-2009, 11:49 PM

Orlando set an NBA record by making 23 three-point shots tonight, going 23 of 37. They won 139-107. I'm so impressed with their first half of the season, on pace for over 60 wins.

MrBug708 · 01-20-2009, 07:49 PM

Good win for the Lakers and Kobe!

Buccaneer · 01-31-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

This isn't about traveling, but more about the NBA sucks comment (also not really directed at Bucc, just frustrated because I have friends here that say the same thing even though they haven't watched a game in at least 5 years).

I think the NBA is still being judged by the Pat Riley with the Knicks years. It may not be as entertaining as it was during the 80s when everyone just threw shots up as soon as they got past half court, but offenses today are actually more efficient than in the 80s and the pace is a lot faster than it was in the late 90s.

There's some great basketball being played now, but "the NBA sucks" is all a lot of people want to think.

No, not being judged by the Riley years but by the rampant selfishness of play since the Be Like Mike days started, with a lot of showboating and "look at me" crap. Here's a good summary from our local Nuggets beat writer

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DENVER • Carmelo Anthony is physically healthy. His fractured right hand is healed.

Here's what is more important:

Anthony is mentally healthy. Don't worry. I'm no psychoanalyst. I can only comment on his basketball state of mind.

And, on the court, he's thriving.

He has grown - and this has been a long time coming - into a team player. He's ready to carry his Denver Nuggets on a long ride in the NBA playoffs.

A snapshot from Friday's 110-99 victory over the Charlotte Bobcats revealed the new Anthony. He was driving through the lane when two defenders pounced on him.

The old Anthony would have lowered his shoulder, battled both defenders, forced a shot and angered his teammates.

The new, improved Anthony flipped the ball to Nene, who shook the rim with an uncontested dunk. It was a selfless play by a formerly selfish player.

Imo, there have been and still continues to be way too many players like the "old" Melo, and that what makes the NBA sucks.

Karlifornia · 01-31-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

No, not being judged by the Riley years but by the rampant selfishness of play since the Be Like Mike days started, with a lot of showboating and "look at me" crap. Here's a good summary from our local Nuggets beat writer

Imo, there have been and still continues to be way too many players like the "old" Melo, and that what makes the NBA sucks.

Yeah, sounds like someone who...doesn't watch any NBA games.

stevew · 01-31-2009, 09:28 PM

Yeah if you watch a good team like the cavs, celts, magic, spurs lakers or a few others you really can enjoy the game a lot more.

The scheduling is still one of the biggest factors in why the league can suck at some points. Back to back games tend to be horrible. there are too many games as well.

Chief Rum · 02-01-2009, 03:00 AM

Sorry, Steve, I agree with these others. I don't get the feeling you have been watching too many games recently.

Not saying if you haven't and watch now, that you're not going to see the same thing, since, certainly, selfish players still exist.

But the game has really improved tons, IMO, in the past 3-4 years really. Not sure really what to pin it on.

Buccaneer · 02-01-2009, 11:36 AM

You're right of course. I have heard (esp. in previous year's threads) about how there have been some changes but I was surprised that "old Melo" had persisted that long, esp. being a star player and an All-Star. I guess there was a period where selfishness ruled the game and that's what many ex-fans remembered. Glad to see some indication that it may have been a bad thing?

MrBug708 · 02-02-2009, 03:11 PM

Bynum out for 8-12 weeks with a torn MCL

miami_fan · 02-02-2009, 05:16 PM

It is almost time time to have the same concerns about Bynum's injury history that there are about Greg Oden's.

Groundhog · 02-02-2009, 05:26 PM

If anything, should be MORE concerned about Bynum at this point. His production (offensively, at least) of late had started to match the size of his contract, and now this. Again.

I have serious concerns about his ability as a defender, as well. DeAndre Jordan looked like a superstar the other night against Bynum, and he's not the first guy to have a career game against Bynum/Gasol this season.

MrBug708 · 02-02-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

It is almost time time to have the same concerns about Bynum's injury history that there are about Greg Oden's.

I dunno really, his seem to be more about things crashing into him or stepping onto a players foot

kingfc22 · 02-02-2009, 09:54 PM

The Kings are losing 101-55 right now to the Suns...oh my...

Crapshoot · 02-02-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

No, not being judged by the Riley years but by the rampant selfishness of play since the Be Like Mike days started, with a lot of showboating and "look at me" crap. Here's a good summary from our local Nuggets beat writer

Imo, there have been and still continues to be way too many players like the "old" Melo, and that what makes the NBA sucks.

I'm curious Bucc - do you sit and bitch about how things were better in the ol' days when "men were men"? Stop whining so much about guys having a good time.

LloydLungs · 02-02-2009, 10:47 PM

Chris Paul down with a groin injury. Hornets had a 72-55 lead on Portland at the time of his injury and get outscored 42-17 over the final 14 minutes. The Hornets aren't going to beat anyone with him out, which could be awhile, so I expect them to end up being the odd team out in this nine-team playoff scramble in the West.

Groundhog · 02-04-2009, 07:04 PM

First Kobe tears the Knicks a new A-Hole on their home court, and now LeBron has 18 points and the 1st quarter isn't over yet. Oh dear.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-04-2009, 07:22 PM

go grizzlies

there i said it

Groundhog · 02-04-2009, 07:48 PM

gtfo

having said that, OJ Mayo #1.

Groundhog · 02-04-2009, 09:50 PM

LeBron finishes up with 52 points and a triple-double.

In other news, the Golden State warriors have scored 17 points in three minutes to start the game against the Suns, and are up 17-2. With 9:15 remaining in the first.

RainMaker · 02-05-2009, 05:14 PM

Is anyone else sick over the fawning ESPN is giving Kobe and Lebron? The Knicks suck and don't play defense. It also didn't hurt that the refs were sending Lebron to the line everytime someone looked at him.

Both are great players, but this is news when they put those numbers up against the Celtics.

Ramzavail · 02-05-2009, 05:38 PM

Kobe got to the line alot as well.

Chief Rum · 02-05-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Is anyone else sick over the fawning ESPN is giving Kobe and Lebron? The Knicks suck and don't play defense. It also didn't hurt that the refs were sending Lebron to the line everytime someone looked at him.

Both are great players, but this is news when they put those numbers up against the Celtics.

Are you actually suggesting LeBron and Kobe are relatively mediocre players who pad their stats against weak teams? Just wanted to be sure.

Neon_Chaos · 02-06-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Is anyone else sick over the fawning ESPN is giving Kobe and Lebron? The Knicks suck and don't play defense. It also didn't hurt that the refs were sending Lebron to the line everytime someone looked at him.

Both are great players, but this is news when they put those numbers up against the Celtics.

61 points is still 61 points. And a 50+ point triple double is still a 50+ point triple double.

It was only icing in the cake that both happened in MSG.

Young Drachma · 02-07-2009, 11:59 PM

Apparently the Lakers traded Radmonovic to Charlotte for Adam Morrison. We'll see how "The Stasch" does playing for Showtime 2.0

MrBug708 · 02-08-2009, 10:47 AM

I think they did it to sign Ariza to a deal and keep him around. That Walton deal is a bad deal still though.

sterlingice · 02-08-2009, 11:03 AM

I hadn't really seen Morrison until going to a Wizards game this year and, man, he should have stayed with that hair he had at Gonzaga.

SI

Oilers9911 · 02-08-2009, 11:20 AM

Good God the Raptors suck. That is all.

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MrBug708 · 02-08-2009, 05:31 PM

Hell of a road trip for the Lakers

12-18-2008, 06:33 AM	#152
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Paul Millsap has been pretty amazing for the Jazz - over the past 10 games Millsap is averaging 18.6pts 11.5rebs on .562 shooting - I'm not so sure that Boozer would be the highest of priorities, especially given his penchant for disappearing and going soft in the big games. The real question is who wants to tie money up in Boozer, given that everyone seems to be waiting until 2010? __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce Last edited by Groundhog : 12-18-2008 at 06:34 AM.

12-26-2008, 12:54 PM	#156
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12-28-2008, 10:41 PM	#157
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Geez, a crisp 45-point win for the Celtics over the Warriors gets them back on track, that's the same margin as that Knick game last year. Last edited by molson : 12-28-2008 at 10:41 PM.

01-08-2009, 04:15 PM	#166
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Whenever I watch a game from the early 90s in particular I'm amazed at the disparity in athleticism between the very athletic guys (Jordan a prime example) and the other guys on the court. It's like he's three steps ahead of everybody. You just don't see that in today's NBA with everybody as athletic as they are. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

01-08-2009, 05:55 PM	#168
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Me too. I wasn't happy at all when we drafted Hickson, but I've come around with the hints of potential we've seen from him so far. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

12-25-2008, 08:58 AM	#153
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Just a bump because today has some really great matchups, highlighted of course by the Lakers and Celtics in LA. It´s not that often you have teams with a combined winning% of 88 meet 30 games into the year.

12-25-2008, 08:06 PM	#154
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Good Christmas game for the Lakers

12-28-2008, 10:44 PM	#158
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol they're going to be fine GREEN 18!

01-06-2009, 09:01 PM	#159
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I know the NBA sucks very badly but seeing Lebron and the "crab dribble" makes me puke. How the fuck does a professional player think he should get away with taking (what looks like) 4 steps to the basket? I know one of the reasons cited for the repulsiveness of the NBA (the college game is still cool) is all of the traveling. Has it gotten this bad?

01-08-2009, 01:46 PM	#165
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	But it's so much easier just to say it sucks. If they would just cut down the length of the contracts I think play would get even better.

01-08-2009, 05:52 PM	#167
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	JJ Hickson made some amazing athletic move the other night. It got me thinking about how the Cavs haven't had an athletic 4 since Larry Nance. I'm hoping JJ develops.

01-10-2009, 07:52 PM	#169
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Nobody watched the game last night?

01-10-2009, 08:17 PM	#170
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I can't believe my Bulls are a game out of the 8th playoff spot. Would be nice to see them get in and give Rose a little playoff experience (even if it's a 4-0 sweep). The Bulls need to dump Larry Hughes fast. I would also not be against moving Gordon too. The team really needs to build around Rose and those guys are stunting his growth. Sure they won't be as good without them, but this team isn't contending for anything. It's filled with too many guards playing for themselves. Del Negro is too pussy to bench Hughes because he knows he'll cry to the media.

01-10-2009, 08:30 PM	#171
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	problem is you can't dump hughes - nobody wants him. although this is the nba - i guess his massive contract gives him value when it gets close to expiring __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

01-10-2009, 09:55 PM	#173
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The trade to dump Gooden and Hughes has been amazing for the Cavs. It's sad ill take a declining and overpaid Big Ben instead. Neither Hughes or gooden are "winning" players. They should be 8th or 9th men on a good team. Delonte West also came over in the trade and has been a key contributor. Hughes should be good to trade next year. The Bulls have a really bad mix of players. It's starting to look like Chandler Curry deja vu with the high picks they've missed on. Other than Rose

01-13-2009, 11:49 PM	#174
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Orlando set an NBA record by making 23 three-point shots tonight, going 23 of 37. They won 139-107. I'm so impressed with their first half of the season, on pace for over 60 wins.

01-20-2009, 07:49 PM	#175
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Good win for the Lakers and Kobe!

01-31-2009, 09:28 PM	#178
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Yeah if you watch a good team like the cavs, celts, magic, spurs lakers or a few others you really can enjoy the game a lot more. The scheduling is still one of the biggest factors in why the league can suck at some points. Back to back games tend to be horrible. there are too many games as well.

02-01-2009, 03:00 AM	#179
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Sorry, Steve, I agree with these others. I don't get the feeling you have been watching too many games recently. Not saying if you haven't and watch now, that you're not going to see the same thing, since, certainly, selfish players still exist. But the game has really improved tons, IMO, in the past 3-4 years really. Not sure really what to pin it on. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready. Last edited by Chief Rum : 02-01-2009 at 03:36 AM.

02-01-2009, 11:36 AM	#180
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	You're right of course. I have heard (esp. in previous year's threads) about how there have been some changes but I was surprised that "old Melo" had persisted that long, esp. being a star player and an All-Star. I guess there was a period where selfishness ruled the game and that's what many ex-fans remembered. Glad to see some indication that it may have been a bad thing?

02-02-2009, 03:11 PM	#181
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Bynum out for 8-12 weeks with a torn MCL

02-02-2009, 05:16 PM	#182
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	It is almost time time to have the same concerns about Bynum's injury history that there are about Greg Oden's. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

02-02-2009, 05:26 PM	#183
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	If anything, should be MORE concerned about Bynum at this point. His production (offensively, at least) of late had started to match the size of his contract, and now this. Again. I have serious concerns about his ability as a defender, as well. DeAndre Jordan looked like a superstar the other night against Bynum, and he's not the first guy to have a career game against Bynum/Gasol this season. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

02-02-2009, 09:54 PM	#185
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	The Kings are losing 101-55 right now to the Suns...oh my... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-02-2009, 10:47 PM	#187
LloydLungs College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ponchatoula, LA	Chris Paul down with a groin injury. Hornets had a 72-55 lead on Portland at the time of his injury and get outscored 42-17 over the final 14 minutes. The Hornets aren't going to beat anyone with him out, which could be awhile, so I expect them to end up being the odd team out in this nine-team playoff scramble in the West.

02-04-2009, 07:04 PM	#188
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	First Kobe tears the Knicks a new A-Hole on their home court, and now LeBron has 18 points and the 1st quarter isn't over yet. Oh dear. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

02-04-2009, 07:22 PM	#189
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02-04-2009, 07:48 PM	#190
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	gtfo having said that, OJ Mayo #1. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

02-04-2009, 09:50 PM	#191
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	LeBron finishes up with 52 points and a triple-double. In other news, the Golden State warriors have scored *17 points in three minutes* to start the game against the Suns, and are up 17-2. With 9:15 remaining in the first. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

02-05-2009, 05:14 PM	#192
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Is anyone else sick over the fawning ESPN is giving Kobe and Lebron? The Knicks suck and don't play defense. It also didn't hurt that the refs were sending Lebron to the line everytime someone looked at him. Both are great players, but this is news when they put those numbers up against the Celtics.

02-05-2009, 05:38 PM	#193
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	Kobe got to the line alot as well.

02-07-2009, 11:59 PM	#196
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Apparently the Lakers traded Radmonovic to Charlotte for Adam Morrison. We'll see how "The Stasch" does playing for Showtime 2.0 __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods Last edited by Young Drachma : 02-07-2009 at 11:59 PM.

02-08-2009, 10:47 AM	#197
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I think they did it to sign Ariza to a deal and keep him around. That Walton deal is a bad deal still though.

02-08-2009, 11:03 AM	#198
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I hadn't really seen Morrison until going to a Wizards game this year and, man, he should have stayed with that hair he had at Gonzaga. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-08-2009, 11:20 AM	#199
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	Good God the Raptors suck. That is all. ---------------------------------------- Basketblogging - Hoops News and Opinion Basketball News and Opinion From the Blogosphere