NFL Playoff Round I Thread

[ColtCrazy]

I'm not a big fan of Outside the Lines, so I turned it over to NFL Network for a bit. I keep forgetting I can't stand their hosts. Did they run out of self-absorbed athletes? Irvin? Sapp? Faulk? Only Deion is missing from the pantheon.

Stuck in the middle is Mariucci (sp) who seems like a complete idiot.

15 minutes until Sports Reporters...sigh

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Lathum

. The argument that every fan base has some bad apples is nonsense.

Thank you for making my point on my earlier post.

[Thomkal]

Let's go Cardinals!

[TrendNet]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Newsflash: There are asshole fans who follow every team. They act like jackasses because they are jackasses. Those of our rivals just get more magnified because they follow....our rivals.

True.

But Phildelphia fans bring it to a whole new level.

Like cheering when a player gets injured.

Taunting Joe Juervicious in the Bucs/Eagles playoff game after his son had died.

Or maybe it's something like this:



But there are other games to be played...

So time for some beer.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Thank you for making my point on my earlier post.

Sorry but I just don't see it. Not trying to be obtuse, but I really don't. Of course there are fans of every team who are assholes, but explain to me why on a national level Philly sports fans have such a poor image.

[Wolfpack]

I think the Santa Claus incident probably clinched it more than anything. It doesn't matter about the background to the actual event, it's the picture that people make in their minds from what they hear on the TV or radio. In this case, "Who in their right mind would boo Santa Claus?" Sprinkle in some reinforcing events, like the cheering of Irvin's injury, and Philly's reputation is cemented. Once that reputation started to harden about Philly's fans, some of them probably wore it as a badge of honor ("You think your team and fans are tough? Well, we booed Santa Claus!")

After all, there were incidents over the years such as snowballs and iceballs pelting the sidelines in both Cincinnati ("You don't live in Cleveland" anyone?) and the Meadowlands and that never really stuck to those fanbases. As things currently stand, it's increasingly difficult for fanbases to even approach Philadelphia's, er, "stature" because as sports money has exploded, so too has the cost of watching them, pricing out most of the fans who would typically be the source of harsh behavior, replaced by well-heeled wine-and-cheesers. I think it's even happening in Philly to some extent as their teams have all now switched to new venues in the last several years. I don't think Lincoln Financial Field has anywhere near the brutal reputation that the Vet had, for example.

[Comey]

Giants fans threw beer bottles at DeSean Jackson after Jackson scored a touchdown earlier this year. But that didn't get widely discussed, did it?

Philly sports fans have a poor image because people continue to perpetuate the stereotype and apply it to everyone. It doesn't apply to everyone. It never applied to everyone. But it became a media thing for a little while, and they continue to heap it on, even if it doesn't apply to 98% of the fanbase.

It's always the 2% that gives the rest of us the bad rap. People don't want to talk about people who are doing nothing.

There's a reason why I choose not to discuss sports with nearly anyone. It's because, since I'm a Philly fan, I'm an asshole. Sorry, but I'm not. Never have been, never will be. But I'm guilty of things a few other idiots did, and I don't get a chance to prove my innocence, thanks to things like the recent posts in this thread.

[Comey]

As far as the Santa incident (which happened nearly 50 years ago now), Santa was drunk. Visibly drunk. That's why he got booed. But people don't want to listen to that part of the story. No, it becomes, "Philly booed Santa". Santa wasn't being a good role model for children that day, because Santa was pretty drunk.

[Lathum]

Comey, I have no doubt you, Sak and Philliefan are great fans and great guys. I grew up less than an hour outside Philly and know many Philly fans who are great people and great fans. I get that it is a small percentage, but when people use the argument that other teams have an equal number of fans that behave equally as bad I don't buy it.

Maybe it is because of whre I grew up and maybe it is some personal experiences, but IMO there is a reason people have the perception they do.

I sincerely apologize if you or anyone else interpreted my comments as a personal attack, that wasn't my intention.

[RainMaker]

I've been to about half a dozen football stadiums for NFL games and can tell you that Veterans Stadium in Philly was the worst experience I've ever had at one. We weren't there to root for a particular team but I would have been scared to have been a Redskins fan at that game. There was a young couple sitting like 10 rows ahead in Redskins attire who literally had every insult thrown their way including beer, peanuts, etc. One guy kept yelling about how they were going to all rape his girl at halftime. This was literally a few rows from an usher who heard everything and didn't do anything.

Heard the N word thrown around like nothing (especially toward McNabb and one of the officials). Almost all the guys were extremely drunk and just lobbed obscenities everywhere. One guy two rows packed passed out and then proceeded to puke all over himself and the person in front of him. Instead of disgust, it was met by laughter. Any girl who walked across the front of the section had multiple guys yelling at them to "show us your tits". This included girls who were probably 13-14 years old with their parents.

Now I've been to a lot of sporting events and seen some shitty fans. Mostly just drunks who yell a lot or maybe try picking a fight. Usually the other fans in the section tell them to knock it off or an usher gets called in to escort them out. But I've never seen anything remotely close to that game in Philly. I guess for me the biggest difference in them and other cities is that they literally don't police their fans in anyway and you can do whatever you want. Like I said, it was only one game but I have never had an experience like that in the hundreds of events I've been to.

[Eaglesfan27]

When the Eagles played at Veterans stadium, it was very unlike any other Philly crowd for some reason. My grandfather would take me to Sixers, Phillies, and Flyers games when I was 4 or 5, but I couldn't go to an Eagles game in person until I was 12, because my grandfather knew that the Eagles and the Vet for some reason attempted to bring out the worst of the Philly sports fans. Tons of great fans in Philly and we all get stigmatized by the bad ones, but there are some bad fans everywhere.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I've been to about half a dozen football stadiums for NFL games and can tell you that Veterans Stadium in Philly was the worst experience I've ever had at one. We weren't there to root for a particular team but I would have been scared to have been a Redskins fan at that game. There was a young couple sitting like 10 rows ahead in Redskins attire who literally had every insult thrown their way including beer, peanuts, etc. One guy kept yelling about how they were going to all rape his girl at halftime. This was literally a few rows from an usher who heard everything and didn't do anything.

Heard the N word thrown around like nothing (especially toward McNabb and one of the officials). Almost all the guys were extremely drunk and just lobbed obscenities everywhere. One guy two rows packed passed out and then proceeded to puke all over himself and the person in front of him. Instead of disgust, it was met by laughter. Any girl who walked across the front of the section had multiple guys yelling at them to "show us your tits". This included girls who were probably 13-14 years old with their parents.

Now I've been to a lot of sporting events and seen some shitty fans. Mostly just drunks who yell a lot or maybe try picking a fight. Usually the other fans in the section tell them to knock it off or an usher gets called in to escort them out. But I've never seen anything remotely close to that game in Philly. I guess for me the biggest difference in them and other cities is that they literally don't police their fans in anyway and you can do whatever you want. Like I said, it was only one game but I have never had an experience like that in the hundreds of events I've been to.

that's just...wow

[Eaglesfan27]

That was an exciting start to the game.

[DaddyTorgo]

ugh

[RainMaker]

Wow.

[DaddyTorgo]

seeya. i don't have much hope for this game at the moment

[dervack]

Well hopefully this game keeps going the way it goes so I'll be 3/4 of the way to a parlay.

[DaddyTorgo]

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FUCKING PASS PROTECTION!?!!?!??!

[DaddyTorgo]

ballgame

[molson]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

ballgame

I think that's FOFC record for calling a game. 5 minutes in?

It'd a just a tad early, IMO.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by molson

I think that's FOFC record for calling a game. 5 minutes in?

It'd a just a tad early, IMO.

nah. i think raiders/lions fans have pregame called games.

no pass protection...1 first down in the first 8 minutes of the game...brady with busted ribs...already down 14-0...i haven't seen anything that inspires any confidence



and now an interception. ready to call it now molson?

[RainMaker]

This is embarassing.

[DaddyTorgo]

i've officially switched to watching GolTV - Real Madrid vs. Mallorca

[Radii]

Originally Posted by molson

I think that's FOFC record for calling a game. 5 minutes in?

It'd a just a tad early, IMO.

You have to qualify this as the "non Jas_lov record" and then there's a chance that you're correct.

[Easy Mac]

Can we call it now?

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

ballgame

I was going to post a similar response to Molson, but I think you're right now.

[RainMaker]

NFL is too odd a sport to call it this early. Takes a weird bounce on a fumble to change momentum. Not looking good for the Pats but I wouldn't turn it off yet.

[JonInMiddleGA]

So what time do the Patriots play today? I mean, the Ravens started about 1p but ...

[Calis]

This is borderline unbelievable.

Wow.

[RedKingGold]

Maybe people will forget how bad the Eagles looked last night if the Patriots lose by 51-0.

[RainMaker]

I have never seen a game go like this in the playoffs.

[kingfc22]

I picked Baltimore to win because I thought NE's defense was atrocious. I didn't expect THIS though.

WOW!

[molson]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Can we call it now?

Yes we can.

[molson]

This is one of those times as a sports fan where you find yourself looking around to see what your other teams are up to to make yourself feel better. I like Syracuse's chances against South Florida this afternoon.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by molson

This is one of those times as a sports fan where you find yourself looking around to see what your other teams are up to to make yourself feel better. I like Syracuse's chances against South Florida this afternoon.

unfortunately i don't like Juventus' chances against AC Milan this afternoon, so i guess i'll watch the Real Madrid game and then something else entirely

[kingfc22]

That was never recovered.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by molson

This is one of those times as a sports fan where you find yourself looking around to see what your other teams are up to to make yourself feel better. I like Syracuse's chances against South Florida this afternoon.

Agreed, watching this game is making me feel slightly better about the fiasco last night.

[kingfc22]

How was that not challenged?!?!

[Calis]

Why wouldn't they challenge that?

[Danny]

wow how do you not challenge that play.

[Philliesfan980]

Harbaugh is going to let this game slip away from him. You've heard it here first.

Him not challenging that play is going to be the turning point in the game. What a fucking idiot.

[Danny]

If New England does come back and win it that will be the play that turned it around. So stupid.

[Calis]

I get the feeling no one even told him, or said it wasn't worth it. Definite screw up by someone upstairs.

This is far from over.

[Easy Mac]

Brady, run you fucking pussy

[Philliesfan980]

Pats will win this game. Mark it down - and god I hate the Pats.

[Philliesfan980]

Another overly cocky white WR in the league.. just what we need. Dude, don't spike the ball like that, you're getting your ass kicked.

[kingfc22]

Again. How do you not challenge that play. Call a TO if you have to so you can get some more looks. It's the first half and you are up 24. The odds of needing all your timeouts is very low.

[Philliesfan980]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Again. How do you not challenge that play. Call a TO if you have to so you can get some more looks. It's the first half and you are up 24. The odds of needing all your timeouts is very low.

Dude, this is the same team that hired away our Special Teams coach (although I think he moved on to coach the DB's for one year). Not exactly that battle tested.

Still, he's going to get absolutely roasted when they lose the game (because they will lose this game now, there's no doubt in my mind).

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

Another overly cocky white WR in the league.. just what we need. Dude, don't spike the ball like that, you're getting your ass kicked.

No way. He just made a big statement, in a PLAYOFF game! WOOOO! He can't be bothered with the fact they are down by multiple scores and needed a fluke call to get a decent chance to score. He's on top of the WORLD!

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Ok, I'm a few minutes behind in this game(Brady just threw the pick to Reed) and had to comment on the kickoff... I had NEVER before seen a fair catch on a kickoff! Weird...