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Old 09-13-2013, 10:50 AM   #51
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Is that really true anymore? I think we're disproportionately skilled/gainfully employed at FOFC, but there's a LOT of people with bachelors degrees from respectful universities who aren't getting anywhere close to that right out of school, or even many years out of school. And they're not all working stepping-stone type-jobs towards greater success either. There's a lot of decently educated waiters and retail employees and nannies right now.

I worked for a giant IT company for 5 years (you've heard of them), moving across country to advance twice and I didn't ever make $50K.

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(NOTE: I also didn't live near NYC so there's COLA to think of)
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:25 AM   #52
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And if you like kids, I think this whole "raising kids for rich people" thing might be a pretty good career. If you're really good at it and are recommended around the upper crusts of society, you'll never have trouble finding work. And if someone basically off the street with no experience at this can get $50k/year, how well does an experienced, well recommended "assistant" do? I'd think the key is getting with a family that's a good fit for you. It's not for everyone, but I think you can do a lot worse.

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Old 09-13-2013, 11:30 AM   #53
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:49 AM   #54
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:00 PM   #55
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Is that really true anymore? I think we're disproportionately skilled/gainfully employed at FOFC, but there's a LOT of people with bachelors degrees from respectful universities who aren't getting anywhere close to that right out of school, or even many years out of school. And they're not all working stepping-stone type-jobs towards greater success either. There's a lot of decently educated waiters and retail employees and nannies right now.

I guess it's true. I also think we need to define what a respectable university is. In my view, I imagine this family, and I'm just taking a wild guess, would define it as an Ivy League and Stanford, U. Chicago, and MIT as the standard of "respectable."
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:01 PM   #56
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And if you like kids, I think this whole "raising kids for rich people" thing might be a pretty good career. If you're really good at it and are recommended around the upper crusts of society, you'll never have trouble finding work. And if someone basically off the street with no experience at this can get $50k/year, how well does an experienced, well recommended "assistant" do? I'd think the key is getting with a family that's a good fit for you. It's not for everyone, but I think you can do a lot worse.

I got a feeling this family wouldn't do that for you. They would probably scold and fire you for taking advantage of them.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:57 PM   #57
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I guess it's true. I also think we need to define what a respectable university is. In my view, I imagine this family, and I'm just taking a wild guess, would define it as an Ivy League and Stanford, U. Chicago, and MIT as the standard of "respectable."

Yeah, I suspect their ideal of slumming it would be Cornell or Brown not CUNY.

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Old 09-13-2013, 09:57 PM   #58
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Yeah, I suspect their ideal of slumming it would be Cornell or Brown not CUNY.

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Old 09-15-2013, 05:02 PM   #59
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The only thing that strikes me as outrageous here is the lack of provided housing. Working at a school with many families who employ this sort of individual, the job description doesn't strike me as out of line. High quality nannies for the right family earn 6 figures. The fact that this is on books means that they're paying taxes and such, which is more than many nanny positions offer.

I would have a lot of questions about this job (the thing that raises my suspicions the most is the vacancy with school age position - where's the nanny who raised them when they were younger?) but if I knew a just out of college version of me, I'd give them that list of questions and tell them to go for it. They very well may be the stereotype you all are saying. But it's entirely possible they're not and instead want a highly qualified person to work long hours.

If this is a hoax they've done a really poor job as I know of several real jobs (in Chicago) that are more desirable than what's outlined there. I say it's real and 50/50 on whether it's as bad as everyone in the thread thinks. The rich really aren't like you or I.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:19 PM   #60
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The only thing that strikes me as outrageous here is the lack of provided housing. Working at a school with many families who employ this sort of individual, the job description doesn't strike me as out of line. High quality nannies for the right family earn 6 figures. The fact that this is on books means that they're paying taxes and such, which is more than many nanny positions offer.

I would have a lot of questions about this job (the thing that raises my suspicions the most is the vacancy with school age position - where's the nanny who raised them when they were younger?) but if I knew a just out of college version of me, I'd give them that list of questions and tell them to go for it. They very well may be the stereotype you all are saying. But it's entirely possible they're not and instead want a highly qualified person to work long hours.

If this is a hoax they've done a really poor job as I know of several real jobs (in Chicago) that are more desirable than what's outlined there. I say it's real and 50/50 on whether it's as bad as everyone in the thread thinks. The rich really aren't like you or I.

You realize this comes out to like 52k/yr right, not 100k/yr?
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:22 PM   #61
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Old 09-15-2013, 08:53 PM   #62
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You realize this comes out to like 52k/yr right, not 100k/yr?
Yes. It's an entry level position - they recognize that hence the reason they advertise that people could move up to a position in a business or to a job as Chief of Staff (that's where the big money is).

I admit I'm surprised that you scoff at the idea of working long hours, in a demanding environment.
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Old 09-15-2013, 10:43 PM   #63
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Yes. It's an entry level position - they recognize that hence the reason they advertise that people could move up to a position in a business or to a job as Chief of Staff (that's where the big money is).

I admit I'm surprised that you scoff at the idea of working long hours, in a demanding environment.

I don't scoff at the idea in general. I scoff at the idea of doing it for these people, in this position.

I don't think there's any "moving up" from this type of position realistically - it strikes me as a pretty "dead end" type job.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:46 PM   #64
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We pay our kid's nanny who is a stay-in help, and works ~12 hours a day $80 a month.

Welcome to the Philippines.

Sounds similar to what it might cost us in Peru. Hire someone from the highlands who wants to live in the big city.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:31 PM   #65
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The only thing that strikes me as outrageous here is the lack of provided housing. Working at a school with many families who employ this sort of individual, the job description doesn't strike me as out of line. High quality nannies for the right family earn 6 figures. The fact that this is on books means that they're paying taxes and such, which is more than many nanny positions offer.

I would have a lot of questions about this job (the thing that raises my suspicions the most is the vacancy with school age position - where's the nanny who raised them when they were younger?) but if I knew a just out of college version of me, I'd give them that list of questions and tell them to go for it. They very well may be the stereotype you all are saying. But it's entirely possible they're not and instead want a highly qualified person to work long hours.

If this is a hoax they've done a really poor job as I know of several real jobs (in Chicago) that are more desirable than what's outlined there. I say it's real and 50/50 on whether it's as bad as everyone in the thread thinks. The rich really aren't like you or I.

The problem is they don't just want a nanny, but they want someone to help with their business, do errands, ect., and you get 1 one week a year for it.
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:41 PM   #67
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:11 PM   #68
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