Crusader Kings Expansion - Page 2

DaddyTorgo · 08-04-2007, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrosfan64

Yeah, I'm going to pick up CK myself. But, I'm going to wait till the expansion.

the expansion won't be standalone though, will it?

gi · 08-04-2007, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

the expansion won't be standalone though, will it?

I hope it is and it pretty much better be, since there has been significant time since the original.

DaddyTorgo · 08-04-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gi

I hope it is and it pretty much better be, since there has been significant time since the original.

aaah ok

Mustang · 08-05-2007, 02:18 PM

Is there a good Crusader King tutorial out there. Seems like alot going on at any given time. I'm grasping the basics but, things like 'Should X person marry Y person' I'm scratching my head at.

MrBug708 · 08-05-2007, 02:25 PM

I'm not sure how much of a tutorial is needed; everything is fairly self explanatory. Your kingdom will generally make money provided you are not at war. The smaller the kingdom there really isn't much to do. If you take an isolationist stance you can set the speed rather fast to actually make things happen. As for marriage, it's fairly hard to find someone Young and with excellent stats. In the latest version of CK, the infant mortality rate is much higher and probably more realistic. Other then that, trial and error is probably the best way to learn in the game.

Izulde · 08-05-2007, 09:15 PM

No, the expansion is not standalone. You need CK to be able to play it.

Izulde · 08-05-2007, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang

Is there a good Crusader King tutorial out there. Seems like alot going on at any given time. I'm grasping the basics but, things like 'Should X person marry Y person' I'm scratching my head at.

A few basic tips:

If you need heirs, marry as young as possible. 16 is ideal, but I'd go under 20 if at all possible.

If you're looking to marry to give yourself a chance at inheriting a land, look for County/Duchy/Kingdom with semi-salic inheritance laws and marry the oldest eligible daughter of the titled noble you can find, preferably one with no male heirs.

If you want to have the best chance possible of creating a super courtier, look at statistics.

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2007, 07:10 PM

okay. Crusader Kings has arrived from gogamer. Any must-have patches/mods/stuff?

Neon_Chaos · 08-10-2007, 07:29 PM

The latest Patch 1.05 is a MUST.

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2007, 07:31 PM

1.05 has been Dled and installed

Neon_Chaos · 08-10-2007, 07:35 PM

Look for a good Coat of Arms mod, facepacks, and picture sets in the forums. I'm sure you can find something that suits you.

After that, you're set to play.

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Look for a good Coat of Arms mod, facepacks, and picture sets in the forums. I'm sure you can find something that suits you.

After that, you're set to play.

yeah. Gotta get rid of these ugly people.

Izulde · 08-10-2007, 10:42 PM

I think there's Improvement Packs floating around that some people use too, but I still stick to Vanilla.

There's also some Event Packs that people have a lot of fun with, but again I haven't messed with those.

I'm pretty boring with my CK experience.... I just have vanilla with the 1.05 patch on top.

Neon_Chaos · 08-11-2007, 12:39 AM

Vanilla with 1.05 is definitely the way to go. The other improvements are too unbalanced IMO.

Izulde · 08-14-2007, 12:36 AM

FWIW, since I know there's some relatively new CKers about, this AAR/dynasty is often regarded as good reading material for beginners:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=229413

DaddyTorgo · 08-14-2007, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde

FWIW, since I know there's some relatively new CKers about, this AAR/dynasty is often regarded as good reading material for beginners:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=229413

sweet. thanks izulde. i know i installed and started poking a bit but there were some things i felt weren't explained wonderfully or I didn't read the manual well-enough to figure out. I'll need to poke around the forums over there and read that AAR and what-not and see if I can figure out some of the stuff.

MrBug708 · 09-21-2007, 10:03 PM

Not out yet but I'm hoping it's any day...

MrBug708 · 09-25-2007, 09:43 PM

Countdown for the next announcement from Paradox

MrBug708 · 10-03-2007, 12:14 PM

Link to a PDF file explaining what Deus Vult is going to be about

Awesome

MrBug708 · 10-03-2007, 12:30 PM

And a few Dola's in...

It comes out tomorrow; late tonight I believe

Neon_Chaos · 10-03-2007, 01:09 PM

DAMNIT BUG.

I just soiled myself TWICE in one day now.

Jeez.

Icy · 10-03-2007, 01:23 PM

This is huge as the lack of it was he main reason for me to get tired of CK:

1.3 Ledger
For Deus Vult we have added a ledger as a reference tool to aid in your game play.
You are not obliged to use the ledger it is simply there as a tool. We have also added
the ability to double click on a character in the ledger and it will open the character
screen in the main game. The ledger is especially useful for keeping track of
characters. Here you can find brides and you can see what titles members of your
dynasty could inherit and thus who could really do with having an accident.

Blade6119 · 10-03-2007, 02:18 PM

You just sold me the game Icy

Izulde · 10-03-2007, 11:30 PM

Sucky part about this is, old savegames aren't compatible... which means I'll have to wait until I finish BG&HC before getting DV.

MrBug708 · 10-04-2007, 03:23 AM

It's live

SunDevil · 10-04-2007, 03:33 AM

Though I am looking forward to this expansion, I'm in no real rush to get it just yet. While Paradox has a reputation of making great games, those same games also need some time before a patch or two comes out to fix issues. I expect this CK expansion to be no different.

Icy · 10-04-2007, 03:53 AM

Umm should i buy it? NBA2k8 will be here in about a week... and then FM08...I need to resist the urge.

Icy · 10-04-2007, 04:22 AM

Great, i managed to control my urge to buy it for full 30 minutes..... then i pulled my credit card and bought it.

I'm slowly getting better controlling my games addition!

Installing it now!

Icy · 10-04-2007, 04:43 AM

Dola, it works perfectly in windowed mode that is a great addition as i like to do other stuff when i play games. This plus the included ladger is a huge improvement to this game, and the expansion price is just $14.99

Eilim · 10-04-2007, 07:42 AM

Ug... Quake Wars, Team fortress 2, and now this. Throw in my recent CoH addiction and I don't think I'll be sleeping for the next few months.

gi · 10-04-2007, 08:03 AM

Yeah, this might have to wait a while for me. I'll also have to repurchase Crusader Kings, since I lost the orginial disk. With Lord of the Rings Online, Civ IV BTS, and FM2008...I'm busy

Neon_Chaos · 10-04-2007, 08:07 AM

Do you need the original disc of CK, or just an original installation on the PC?

twothree · 10-04-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Do you need the original disc of CK, or just an original installation on the PC?

Just an original installation of CK is needed. It does not ask for the CK disk during the installation. However, if you have a disk installation, be prepared to hit a button a couple hundred times to change the read-only attribute of every file that it overwrites.

Coffee Warlord · 10-04-2007, 08:49 AM

How incredibly convenient that I have tomorrow off. God wills it!

Neon_Chaos · 10-04-2007, 08:53 AM

21 MB of downloadable goodness.

Icy · 10-04-2007, 09:58 AM

The downloadable version of CK is $7 only at gamersgate and it comes with a manual in pdf, for those that don't have the original.

MrBug708 · 10-04-2007, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twothree

Just an original installation of CK is needed. It does not ask for the CK disk during the installation. However, if you have a disk installation, be prepared to hit a button a couple hundred times to change the read-only attribute of every file that it overwrites.

Ya, that was annoying

Icy · 10-04-2007, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twothree

Just an original installation of CK is needed. It does not ask for the CK disk during the installation. However, if you have a disk installation, be prepared to hit a button a couple hundred times to change the read-only attribute of every file that it overwrites.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Ya, that was annoying

Don't forget the old but great MSDOS:

Start->Run

Type cmd

Once you see the DOS Box type:

cd \Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Crusader Kings

then you type:

attrib /s -r *.*

then you can install the expansion without any message asking for overwriting.

Coffee Warlord · 10-04-2007, 10:54 AM

Even easier, I think you can mass unset the readonly flag in windows as well by just opening the properties in the main folder and toggling it on/off.

gi · 10-04-2007, 10:58 AM

Command-line warrior!

John Galt · 10-04-2007, 01:16 PM

Once upon a time, I downloaded CK. I've looked through my email and I can't find any confirmation email or any other record of the purchase. Do any of you know how the download works or how I could get a new copy?

Icy · 10-04-2007, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Galt

Once upon a time, I downloaded CK. I've looked through my email and I can't find any confirmation email or any other record of the purchase. Do any of you know how the download works or how I could get a new copy?

If you bought a downloadable version and not DVD, then you probably bought it from www.gamersgate.com and there you can download it again after loging with your user/pass. There is also a button to resend you the password.

MrBug708 · 10-04-2007, 02:07 PM

Where the heck is the ledger in the game?

Icy · 10-04-2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Where the heck is the ledger in the game?

It took me a lot to discover it too. At the left down side, there is a small button between the + and - for the map zoom. Click on that button, on the screen that appears, advance to pages 4, 5, etc that is the ledger, wife finder etc.

Neon_Chaos · 10-04-2007, 02:57 PM

How does the game feel? Is it as expected? I'm going to make the monumental decision of buying the damn thing or not.

MrBug708 · 10-04-2007, 03:22 PM

It seems to have a much cleaner graphic feel, it has the EU2/3 date change pause that is annoying but I like everything else about it. Many more events and worth it

Icy · 10-04-2007, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

How does the game feel? Is it as expected? I'm going to make the monumental decision of buying the damn thing or not.

If you liked the original, you will love the improvements, but if you didn't like it, you won't like this a lot as the gameplay etc is more or less the same, with a bit better graphics and some improvements that are huge for old CK players, but that maybe are not that noticeable to new players.

John Galt · 10-04-2007, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy

If you bought a downloadable version and not DVD, then you probably bought it from www.gamersgate.com and there you can download it again after loging with your user/pass. There is also a button to resend you the password.

Thanks! That worked great.

Neon_Chaos · 10-04-2007, 06:03 PM

*evil chuckle*

20% DOWNLOADING....

MUHAHAHAHA

ENGLAND SHALL RISE ONCE AGAIN!

Izulde · 10-05-2007, 02:53 AM

I take it this is a sign I need to update like mad and finish off my dynasty so I can buy this.

08-05-2007, 02:18 PM	#54
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Is there a good Crusader King tutorial out there. Seems like alot going on at any given time. I'm grasping the basics but, things like 'Should X person marry Y person' I'm scratching my head at. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

08-05-2007, 09:15 PM	#56
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	No, the expansion is not standalone. You need CK to be able to play it. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

08-10-2007, 07:29 PM	#59
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	The latest Patch 1.05 is a MUST. __________________ Come and see.

08-10-2007, 07:35 PM	#61
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Look for a good Coat of Arms mod, facepacks, and picture sets in the forums. I'm sure you can find something that suits you. After that, you're set to play. __________________ Come and see.

08-10-2007, 10:42 PM	#63
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I think there's Improvement Packs floating around that some people use too, but I still stick to Vanilla. There's also some Event Packs that people have a lot of fun with, but again I haven't messed with those. I'm pretty boring with my CK experience.... I just have vanilla with the 1.05 patch on top. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

08-05-2007, 02:25 PM	#55
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I'm not sure how much of a tutorial is needed; everything is fairly self explanatory. Your kingdom will generally make money provided you are not at war. The smaller the kingdom there really isn't much to do. If you take an isolationist stance you can set the speed rather fast to actually make things happen. As for marriage, it's fairly hard to find someone Young and with excellent stats. In the latest version of CK, the infant mortality rate is much higher and probably more realistic. Other then that, trial and error is probably the best way to learn in the game.

08-10-2007, 07:10 PM	#58
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	okay. Crusader Kings has arrived from gogamer. Any must-have patches/mods/stuff?

08-10-2007, 07:31 PM	#60
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	1.05 has been Dled and installed

08-11-2007, 12:39 AM	#64
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Vanilla with 1.05 is definitely the way to go. The other improvements are too unbalanced IMO. __________________ Come and see.

08-14-2007, 12:36 AM	#65
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	FWIW, since I know there's some relatively new CKers about, this AAR/dynasty is often regarded as good reading material for beginners: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=229413 __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

09-21-2007, 10:03 PM	#67
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Not out yet but I'm hoping it's any day...

09-25-2007, 09:43 PM	#68
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Countdown for the next announcement from Paradox

10-03-2007, 12:14 PM	#69
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Link to a PDF file explaining what Deus Vult is going to be about Awesome Last edited by MrBug708 : 10-03-2007 at 12:14 PM.

10-03-2007, 12:30 PM	#70
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	And a few Dola's in... It comes out tomorrow; late tonight I believe

10-03-2007, 01:09 PM	#71
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	DAMNIT BUG. I just soiled myself TWICE in one day now. Jeez. __________________ Come and see.

10-03-2007, 01:23 PM	#72
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	This is huge as the lack of it was he main reason for me to get tired of CK: 1.3 Ledger For Deus Vult we have added a ledger as a reference tool to aid in your game play. You are not obliged to use the ledger it is simply there as a tool. We have also added the ability to double click on a character in the ledger and it will open the character screen in the main game. The ledger is especially useful for keeping track of characters. Here you can find brides and you can see what titles members of your dynasty could inherit and thus who could really do with having an accident. __________________

10-03-2007, 02:18 PM	#73
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	You just sold me the game Icy __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

10-03-2007, 11:30 PM	#74
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Sucky part about this is, old savegames aren't compatible... which means I'll have to wait until I finish BG&HC before getting DV. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

10-04-2007, 03:23 AM	#75
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	It's live

10-04-2007, 03:53 AM	#77
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Umm should i buy it? NBA2k8 will be here in about a week... and then FM08...I need to resist the urge. __________________

10-04-2007, 04:22 AM	#78
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Great, i managed to control my urge to buy it for full 30 minutes..... then i pulled my credit card and bought it. I'm slowly getting better controlling my games addition! Installing it now! __________________ Last edited by Icy : 10-04-2007 at 04:22 AM.

10-04-2007, 04:43 AM	#79
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Dola, it works perfectly in windowed mode that is a great addition as i like to do other stuff when i play games. This plus the included ladger is a huge improvement to this game, and the expansion price is just $14.99 __________________

10-04-2007, 07:42 AM	#80
Eilim High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Foxboro,MA	Ug... Quake Wars, Team fortress 2, and now this. Throw in my recent CoH addiction and I don't think I'll be sleeping for the next few months.

10-04-2007, 08:03 AM	#81
gi College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Berkley, MI	Yeah, this might have to wait a while for me. I'll also have to repurchase Crusader Kings, since I lost the orginial disk. With Lord of the Rings Online, Civ IV BTS, and FM2008...I'm busy

10-04-2007, 08:07 AM	#82
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Do you need the original disc of CK, or just an original installation on the PC? __________________ Come and see.

10-04-2007, 08:49 AM	#84
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	How incredibly convenient that I have tomorrow off. God wills it!

10-04-2007, 08:53 AM	#85
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	21 MB of downloadable goodness. __________________ Come and see.

10-04-2007, 09:58 AM	#86
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	The downloadable version of CK is $7 only at gamersgate and it comes with a manual in pdf, for those that don't have the original. __________________

10-04-2007, 10:54 AM	#89
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Even easier, I think you can mass unset the readonly flag in windows as well by just opening the properties in the main folder and toggling it on/off.

10-04-2007, 10:58 AM	#90
gi College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Berkley, MI	Command-line warrior!

10-04-2007, 01:16 PM	#91
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	Once upon a time, I downloaded CK. I've looked through my email and I can't find any confirmation email or any other record of the purchase. Do any of you know how the download works or how I could get a new copy? __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

10-04-2007, 02:07 PM	#93
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Where the heck is the ledger in the game?

10-04-2007, 02:57 PM	#95
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	How does the game feel? Is it as expected? I'm going to make the monumental decision of buying the damn thing or not. __________________ Come and see.

10-04-2007, 03:22 PM	#96
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	It seems to have a much cleaner graphic feel, it has the EU2/3 date change pause that is annoying but I like everything else about it. Many more events and worth it Last edited by MrBug708 : 10-04-2007 at 03:23 PM.

10-04-2007, 06:03 PM	#99
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	evil chuckle 20% DOWNLOADING.... MUHAHAHAHA ENGLAND SHALL RISE ONCE AGAIN! __________________ Come and see.