2006 MLB Thread - Page 2

Cuckoo · 04-08-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaefIllini

So far I really like what I've seen from Cedeno at SS. He has been a little too lax in the field for my tastes, but his hustle and production from the bottom of the order have been impressive.

Yeah, I thought I wasn't going to like a lot about this team, but I really like the excitement level. Some of the young/new guys have really seemed to be a spark plug so far. I still have some questions about the pitching (questions that should improve when Wood and Prior return), but I'm really liking the possibilities.

They play good defense for the most part (despite the early errors from Cedeno) and have a little bit of speed. More than anything, though, it seems like this team will strike out a lot less than the Cubs teams of the past few years. Of course, that could change, but those are my early impressions.

kingfc22 · 04-08-2006, 10:33 PM

The Brew Crew is 5-0. Didn't see that one coming.

Chief Rum · 04-08-2006, 10:44 PM

And an entire metropolis of sports fans say, "Gawd, I hate the freakin' Angels."

JS19 · 04-08-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

The Brew Crew is 5-0. Didn't see that one coming.

Not saying I did either, but the Brewers have a decent team this yr, and I think they finished either at .500 or right around there last yr. With all their young talent they should only get better.

kingfc22 · 04-08-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19

Not saying I did either, but the Brewers have a decent team this yr, and I think they finished either at .500 or right around there last yr. With all their young talent they should only get better.

I expected their team to be competitive with all the youngsters and maybe start to gel late in the year, but a 5-0 start is surprising. But they have only played Pittsburgh and Arizona.

Logan · 04-09-2006, 02:56 PM

Well we just witnessed Joe Girardi's first rookie mistakes as manager...

First he takes Miguel Cabrera out for a pinch runner in the 8th inning of a tie game.

Then, still tied, bottom 9th, Mets up...Beltran walks, Delgado singles him over to 3rd, nobody out. A 20-year old rookie reliever pitching, with David Wright, who's the Mets best hitter and is killing the ball so far, coming up. You have to walk him there, and take your chances with X Nady (granted, he's also killing the ball, but play the percentages). The extra baserunner means nothing, and you set up a force at home.

Oh yeah...first pitch...Wright sends a deep sac fly to right. Game over.

Gonna be a long year for Marlins fans.

Chief Rum · 04-09-2006, 03:12 PM

Fire him!

JS19 · 04-09-2006, 03:40 PM

Saw that as well Logan. I did like however that he was pretty agressive on the bases with his guys. This team is gonna need to find any way to win, so being agressive will help. Glavine looked in pretty good form once again. Hopefully this is his "breakout" year with the Mets.

Logan · 04-09-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19

Saw that as well Logan. I did like however that he was pretty agressive on the bases with his guys. This team is gonna need to find any way to win, so being agressive will help. Glavine looked in pretty good form once again. Hopefully this is his "breakout" year with the Mets.

Good point. I always liked Girardi (and I can't say that about a lot of Yankees), so I hope he's successful. I'm sure he'll learn from today...and he'll learn a lot more from mistakes going forward. We went through some of those first-year manager groans last year with Willie, but he's been getting better too. If this isn't the Mets breakout year, I don't know when it will be. I pegged them for around 92 wins, and if there's some support at the back-end of the rotation, I could see them breaking 100. Let's hope.

Crapshoot · 04-09-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19

Saw that as well Logan. I did like however that he was pretty agressive on the bases with his guys. This team is gonna need to find any way to win, so being agressive will help. Glavine looked in pretty good form once again. Hopefully this is his "breakout" year with the Mets.

Ugh - I'm not a Mets or Marlins fan, but I always find "aggressive" and "manufacturing" runs ends up being "run oneself out of innings and use stupid hit-and-runs" instead of building patiently. For your sakes, I hope not.

Logan · 04-09-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Ugh - I'm not a Mets or Marlins fan, but I always find "aggressive" and "manufacturing" runs ends up being "run oneself out of innings and use stupid hit-and-runs" instead of building patiently. For your sakes, I hope not.

Funny you should say that...a good example was Friday night. Mets were up 9-1 in the top of the 8th, but Florida had the bases loaded with 2 outs. Mike Jacobs ripped a single to right, which ended up scoring 2, but Jeremy Hermeida tried going 1st to 3rd on the play. Nady threw to 3rd and got him out by about 10 feet. Inning over.

SirFozzie · 04-09-2006, 05:50 PM

Sox 5-1 on the year, Schilling 2-0, Papelbon 3 saves (the guy throws serious heat).

I like

DaddyTorgo · 04-09-2006, 05:53 PM

Foz...do you like the fact that Coco Crisp reportedly has a broken hand and will be out for ~4 weeks?

(according to WHDH and SoSH)

SirFozzie · 04-09-2006, 05:55 PM

Ouch. well, we have to have Stern on the roster for a month anyway..

sovereignstar · 04-09-2006, 05:56 PM

Twins 1-5 on the year, Santana 0-2, Radke 2 HRA (the guy throws meat).

I hate

DaddyTorgo · 04-09-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Twins 1-5 on the year, Santana 0-2, Radke 2 HRA (the guy throws meat).

I hate

how is Santana 0-2 on the year? That's crazy

Crapshoot · 04-09-2006, 06:05 PM

Giants walk-off win - Dodgers walk-off loss. Tis a good day.

Philliesfan980 · 04-09-2006, 06:35 PM

Phillies are 1-5. Things don't look like they are going to get better anytime soon. Starting pitching has been bad, and the bullpen isn't much better.

I really wish they would just commit to the rebuilding effort in full rather than do it halfway.

Katon · 04-09-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

how is Santana 0-2 on the year? That's crazy

Isn't he usually a slow starter?

MizzouRah · 04-09-2006, 10:07 PM

I can't f'n stand the Cubs. YOU SUCK CUBS!

Why would you bring Shizzy in the game when Looper was warm? Then let him walk the entire team?

sterlingice · 04-09-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I can't f'n stand the Cubs. YOU SUCK CUBS!

Why would you bring Shizzy in the game when Looper was warm? Then let him walk the entire team?

It was a fun game to watch

SI

Logan · 04-09-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I can't f'n stand the Cubs. YOU SUCK CUBS!

Why would you bring Shizzy in the game when Looper was warm? Then let him walk the entire team?

If you're depending on Pooper, you're in some trouble.

INDalltheway · 04-09-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I can't f'n stand the Cubs. YOU SUCK CUBS!

I take that as a compliment!

sovereignstar · 04-09-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Katon

Isn't he usually a slow starter?

Yes. His "shit" isn't all there yet. Wasn't there during the WBC and isn't quite here/there right now. Hopefully it doesn't take until July because I'd like to have some reason to watch the Twins this year*.

*start Francisco Liriano plz k thx

JS19 · 04-09-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

If you're depending on Pooper, you're in some trouble.

Haha. My thoughts exactly. Trust me MizzouRah, Looper is the last guy you want in the game. I can't believe anyone was willing to give him money to actually pitch, let alone the amount he got from the Cards.

Cuckoo · 04-09-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I can't f'n stand the Cubs. YOU SUCK CUBS!

Getting a win is great. Beating the Cardinals is even better. Sweeping them... Ahh, it's a very good night.

Cards4ever · 04-09-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I can't f'n stand the Cubs. YOU SUCK CUBS!

Why would you bring Shizzy in the game when Looper was warm? Then let him walk the entire team?

LaRussa is definitely in for a challenge with this bullpen, I think it will take a while to sort it all out.

MizzouRah · 04-10-2006, 09:46 AM

LaRussa has already made some goofy ass calls. Pulls out Carpenter in the 6th the other night - loss - then brings Shizzy in last night in the 8th inning. Bah...

..and LaRussa, get Encarnacion out of the 2nd spot in the lineup.. how many more wiffs does he have to make before you notice he needs to move down in the lineup? Sheeeeshhh....

The Cub fans are a smilin today..

Coffee Warlord · 04-10-2006, 10:01 AM

For a 23 year old rookie making his debut (on national TV vs the cards no less), Sean Marshall didn't look too shabby. Though he needs to work on not throwing the exact same first pitch to every batter he faces.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

Butter · 04-10-2006, 10:19 AM

The Cards are 5th in the division! Woo-hoo!

MizzouRah · 04-10-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

The Cards are 5th in the division! Woo-hoo!

Luckily we have 156 games left to win the division once again.

Cuckoo · 04-10-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Luckily we have 156 games left to win the division once again.

I still think the Cards will win the division this year, but after watching the series (I know, I know. Don't make judgments too early), they have more questions than I thought they'd have.

I think the most obvious one is the bullpen, but they've let a lot of quality guys get away. They're not as strong as they've been the past couple of years.

I actually like Encarnacion, but he's a decent replacement for Walker or Sanders, not both. They'll also miss Grudz at second and a couple of those bullpen guys who had been so steady the past couple of seasons.

Even though the middle of their line-up is as good as or better than any in the majors, the group as a whole isn't near as dominating as it's been.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-10-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Katon

Isn't he usually a slow starter?

You made me curious (since I had no idea one way or the other really), so I looked him up while I'm sitting here waiting for an email.

2005 April -- 5 Starts, 4-0, 33 IP, 3.55 ERA, .224 Avg
2005 Pre-All Star -- 18 Starts, 7-5, 124.1 IP, 3.98 ERA, .226 Avg
2005 Post-All Star -- 15 Starts, 9-2, 107.1 IP, 1.59 ERA, .192 Avg
2004 April -- 5 Starts, 1-0, 28.1 IP, 5.40 ERA, .273 Avg
2004 Pre-All Star -- 19 Starts, 7-6, 124.2 IP, 3.78 ERA, .221 Avg
2004 Post-All Star -- 15 Starts, 13-0, 104.1 IP, 1.21 ERA, .154 Avg
2003 April -- 0 Starts, 0-0, 19 IP, 0.95 ERA, .174 Avg
2003 Pre-All Star -- 4 Starts, 4-2, 72 IP, 3.00 ERA, .216 Avg
2003 Post-All Star -- 14 Starts, 8-1, 86.1 IP, 3.13 ERA, .216 Avg

3 yr Totals (2003-2005)
April -- 10 starts, 5-0, 80.1 IP, 3.59 ERA, .230 Avg
Pre-All Star -- 41 starts, 18-13, 320 IP, 3.68 ERA, .222 Avg
Post- All Star -- 44 starts, 30-3, 298 IP, 1.90 ERA, .197 Avg

Conclusion: Damn, he's a big time second half pitcher.

watravaler · 04-10-2006, 12:04 PM

Crisp is done for a month, reported on one of the Boston stations. Sucks for Crisp and my fantasy team.

MizzouRah · 04-10-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

I still think the Cards will win the division this year, but after watching the series (I know, I know. Don't make judgments too early), they have more questions than I thought they'd have.

I think the most obvious one is the bullpen, but they've let a lot of quality guys get away. They're not as strong as they've been the past couple of years.

I actually like Encarnacion, but he's a decent replacement for Walker or Sanders, not both. They'll also miss Grudz at second and a couple of those bullpen guys who had been so steady the past couple of seasons.

Even though the middle of their line-up is as good as or better than any in the majors, the group as a whole isn't near as dominating as it's been.

I figured their bullpen would have issues this year anyway, but something about LaRussa (yeah, yeah 7th all time) really gets under my skin with his moves late in games sometimes.

It is early, but Juan is not looking very good... but either is Jimmy E.

We say this every year, BUT if the Cubs stay healthy... look out.

Radii · 04-10-2006, 12:28 PM

Hello cubs fans! Nice weekend, huh?

samifan24 · 04-10-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by watravaler

Crisp is done for a month, reported on one of the Boston stations. Sucks for Crisp and my fantasy team.

Pick up Adam Stern and you'll be fine.

Neuqua · 04-10-2006, 05:00 PM

All this excitement got me buying 6 tickets for the bleachers for tomorrow afternoon's Cubs-Reds game.

Go Cubbies!

Cuckoo · 04-10-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

All this excitement got me buying 6 tickets for the bleachers for tomorrow afternoon's Cubs-Reds game.

Man, I remember the days when my good friend lived in Chicago. I miss going to Wrigley.

JeeberD · 04-10-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

The Cards are 5th in the division! Woo-hoo!

Such a beautiful sight...

watravaler · 04-10-2006, 07:15 PM

Derrick Lee has just signed a contract keeping him with the Cubs for the next five years. ($65 million, no trade clause). Excellent move, IMO

Cuckoo · 04-10-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by watravaler

Derrick Lee has just signed a contract keeping him with the Cubs for the next five years. ($65 million, no trade clause). Excellent move, IMO

Cards4ever · 04-10-2006, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

I still think the Cards will win the division this year, but after watching the series (I know, I know. Don't make judgments too early), they have more questions than I thought they'd have.

I think the most obvious one is the bullpen, but they've let a lot of quality guys get away. They're not as strong as they've been the past couple of years.

I actually like Encarnacion, but he's a decent replacement for Walker or Sanders, not both. They'll also miss Grudz at second and a couple of those bullpen guys who had been so steady the past couple of seasons.

Even though the middle of their line-up is as good as or better than any in the majors, the group as a whole isn't near as dominating as it's been.

Actually, we want the WC and the NL to win the the All-Star game, that seems to be the recipe.

JS19 · 04-11-2006, 02:49 PM

Rookie Brian Bannister looked good once again for the Mets, went 7 strong innings. Beltran hit a bomb, Wright knocks in another run. Looks like things just might be setting in for the Mets. If/when Floyd gets his bat going, and if we get any kind of offense out of Hernandez at 2B this lineup looks to be amazing. I know it's early yet, but so far so good.

Butter · 04-11-2006, 03:21 PM

Bronson Arroyo, bitches! Wily Mo who?

ISiddiqui · 04-11-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19

Rookie Brian Bannister looked good once again for the Mets, went 7 strong innings. Beltran hit a bomb, Wright knocks in another run. Looks like things just might be setting in for the Mets. If/when Floyd gets his bat going, and if we get any kind of offense out of Hernandez at 2B this lineup looks to be amazing. I know it's early yet, but so far so good.

And heaven forbid a starter gets hurt, Heilman is a nice fill in.

SirFozzie · 04-11-2006, 05:09 PM

Red Sox 6-1
Yankees 2-5

I know it won't continue.. I know it CAN'T continue.. but give me a few minutes to enjoy this, huh?

McSweeny · 04-11-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Red Sox 6-1
Yankees 2-5

I know it won't continue.. I know it CAN'T continue.. but give me a few minutes to enjoy this, huh?

ahhh Fozz

just ignore the Yankees. we're 6-1 and we're playing flawless baseball. that's what you should be enjoying. I'm still trying to figure who i'm in love with more, Beckett or Papelbon

JS19 · 04-11-2006, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

And heaven forbid a starter gets hurt, Heilman is a nice fill in.

Very true. He is very capable of being the #5 starter, or even a 3-4 guy on other teams, but as of now he is more useful out of the pen, and as you put it he can always fill in.

SirFozzie · 04-11-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by McSweeny

ahhh Fozz

just ignore the Yankees. we're 6-1 and we're playing flawless baseball. that's what you should be enjoying. I'm still trying to figure who i'm in love with more, Beckett or Papelbon

Yeah, stuck at work, I was about to start unleashing my virulent hatred of Keith Foulke, but then I read the recap, that Wily Mo accidentally helped Catalanatto's homer over the right field fence, and it got lost behind the admiration of Jon "Someone set up us the" Papelbon.

Beckett wasn't at his greatest, bgut he was still damn good

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Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Well we just witnessed Joe Girardi's first rookie mistakes as manager... First he takes Miguel Cabrera out for a pinch runner in the 8th inning of a tie game. Then, still tied, bottom 9th, Mets up...Beltran walks, Delgado singles him over to 3rd, nobody out. A 20-year old rookie reliever pitching, with David Wright, who's the Mets best hitter and is killing the ball so far, coming up. You have to walk him there, and take your chances with X Nady (granted, he's also killing the ball, but play the percentages). The extra baserunner means nothing, and you set up a force at home. Oh yeah...first pitch...Wright sends a deep sac fly to right. Game over. Gonna be a long year for Marlins fans.

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JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Saw that as well Logan. I did like however that he was pretty agressive on the bases with his guys. This team is gonna need to find any way to win, so being agressive will help. Glavine looked in pretty good form once again. Hopefully this is his "breakout" year with the Mets.

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MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	LaRussa has already made some goofy ass calls. Pulls out Carpenter in the 6th the other night - loss - then brings Shizzy in last night in the 8th inning. Bah... ..and LaRussa, get Encarnacion out of the 2nd spot in the lineup.. how many more wiffs does he have to make before you notice he needs to move down in the lineup? Sheeeeshhh.... The Cub fans are a smilin today..

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JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Rookie Brian Bannister looked good once again for the Mets, went 7 strong innings. Beltran hit a bomb, Wright knocks in another run. Looks like things just might be setting in for the Mets. If/when Floyd gets his bat going, and if we get any kind of offense out of Hernandez at 2B this lineup looks to be amazing. I know it's early yet, but so far so good.

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