Should I bother to respond again to this clown?

[superbama]

as per your request here is your suggestion for response-

GroundCat,

Your account was banned due to (blah blah). I chose to ignore your request and put you up for ridicule on message board because (blah blah).

Good day,
SkyDog

[stevew]

If GroundCat is indeed a troll, wouldnt this be the ideal thing that they were looking for? Create conflict within the community, leave their mark upon the board? I think this thread needs to be locked, otherwise the terrorists win.

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by stevew

If GroundCat is indeed a troll, wouldnt this be the ideal thing that they were looking for? Create conflict within the community, leave their mark upon the board? I think this thread needs to be locked, otherwise the terrorists win.

As long as no one has bought reefer in the last couple of weeks I think we're still okay...

[Franklinnoble]

I say re-instate him.

[Joe]

no need to reinstate him. he's already here because GroundCat=SkyDog

[Klinglerware]

Originally Posted by George W Bush

no need to reinstate him. he's already here because GroundCat=SkyDog

Would that mean that SkyDog should be banned for trolling?

[Easy Mac]

Aren't cats already on the ground? Now maybe if it was like GroundBat it would make more sense.

[Schmidty]

I just had Cheeseburger Macaronni Hamburger Helper, and it was fabulous.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by Klinglerware

Would that mean that SkyDog should be banned for trolling?

He should be, but it wouldn't be the first time he's trolled without penalty.

[Ben E Lou]

I am rather stunned that this many of you think that this guy is serious. FYI, the straw that broke the camel's back was in a thread that someone else started, and the person who started that thread decided to delete it because "GroundCat" had completely threadjacked it. It is 100% clear to me that this guy was only here to be a troll, get attention, and annoy people.

All that being said, I decided to placate the masses and respond to him.

I haven't forgotten about you. You were banned for your obvious trolling in several different threads--the thread that QuikSand started being the straw that broke the camel's back. Reinstatement is not an option now, nor will it be at any point in the future. This is my final decision, and it is not up for discussion or debate.

--Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: HEY MAN!

DOOD!

Don't forget about me man! I'm still waiting!

It's not too late!

GroundCat

[superbama]

I'm entirely placated. I've never been more placid.

[Buccaneer]

I thought Moderator decisions were final (i.e., undiscussable) and emails/PMs supposedly kept confidential?

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I thought Moderator decisions were final (i.e., undiscussable) and emails/PMs supposedly kept confidential?

And it seems you thought wrong on both counts.

1. I'd prefer that the board doesn't turn into "moderating decision discussion central," butpeople around here still somehow seem to think that their public complaints actually make an iota of difference to me when making a decision.

2. When a troll stoops to a certain level of UIC in their bizarre protests of my decisions, I've always made it public. ("I will not accept a banning." "I will come back stronger and more powerful than ever.") Nothing new there.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

I am rather stunned that this many of you think that this guy is serious. FYI, the straw that broke the camel's back was in a thread that someone else started, and the person who started that thread decided to delete it because "GroundCat" had completely threadjacked it. It is 100% clear to me that this guy was only here to be a troll, get attention, and annoy people.

All that being said, I decided to placate the masses and respond to him.

[/indent]

I don't why you are getting so much crap either. The guy didn't just stumble across FOFCentral and decide to post using a play on your name. Obviously he is a former member and most probably a banned member. If he isn't a banned member than he just lost a dummy account, tough shit. Keep up what you do, this is one of the few quality sites that doesn't have a bunch of spam and trolls. Even some of my favorite sites have really gone downhill but this one is always policed very effectively.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

And it seems you thought wrong on both counts.

1. I'd prefer that the board doesn't turn into "moderating decision discussion central," butpeople around here still somehow seem to think that their public complaints actually make an iota of difference to me when making a decision.

2. When a troll stoops to a certain level of UIC in their bizarre protests of my decisions, I've always made it public. ("I will not accept a banning." "I will come back stronger and more powerful than ever.") Nothing new there.

The black on black internet violence was pretty good though. (But it also proves this guy has been around before and isn't someone brand new)

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

And it seems you thought wrong on both counts.

1. I'd prefer that the board doesn't turn into "moderating decision discussion central," butpeople around here still somehow seem to think that their public complaints actually make an iota of difference to me when making a decision.

2. When a troll stoops to a certain level of UIC in their bizarre protests of my decisions, I've always made it public. ("I will not accept a banning." "I will come back stronger and more powerful than ever.") Nothing new there.

1. Then why the poll?

[Suicane75]

I thought it was/is as obvious as a kick in the nuts (which i enjoy, call me ladies), that this dude was an already banned guy coming back to troll. I don't understand the debate about it.

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

1. Then why the poll?

Watch out Bucc, you might get banned for that kind of talk.



*ducks*

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

1. Then why the poll?

Because responding to him is not a moderating decision. I was genuinely curious how many people would be unable to see through him.

[Buccaneer]

Fair enough.

[SirFozzie]

I remember one of the RWBL owners with smoot in his AIM.. I want to say.. Raven, but I'm not 100% sure, and I'm surprised he would act in this way if it is him

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Because responding to him is not a moderating decision. I was genuinely curious how many people would be unable to see through him.

In all honesty, I didn't really pay much attention to him or his antics.. that's your job.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

I remember one of the RWBL owners with smoot in his AIM.. I want to say.. Raven, but I'm not 100% sure, and I'm surprised he would act in this way if it is him

That is cause his last name is Smoot. Fred Smoot is a CB for the Vikings.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

I say let him back in and then lets beat him up when he least suspects it.

[Ben E Lou]

Let's review the facts, then....

1. His very first new thread started with "I LIVE" or something along those lines. He edited it when he realized his mistake. (If I'd seen this thread earlier, he would have been banned right then and there. I missed it because I was out of town.)

2. He picks a name that is a perfect takeoff on the admin.

3. He appears the very day after another thread had appeared asking about my whereabouts.

4. He creates a brand-new e-mail account just for the purpose of this FOFC account.

5. Even though I didn't post to him, nor did I associate my e-mail addy with my screen name, he knew to refer to me as "SkyDog" within less than a half hour of his banning.

6. His continual e-mails to me are wayyyyyy too dumb to be real.*

7. He has gone to great lengths to conceal his identity, in terms of how he longs on and how he sends his e-mails.

Taken alone, none of the things above would have cast much suspicion on him. Taken together, they are too much just to be coincidence.


As far as his identity, numbers 2, 4 and 7 above, taken along with his e-mail name, his "Look At Me!!!!" style of posting and his continuing to send me e-mails over and over again are all *extremely* consistent with the behaviors of one banned troll in particular.

Again, there's just too much to be explained by mere coincidence.






*--And if they ARE real, then we've lost nothing by getting rid of this nimrod.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Because responding to him is not a moderating decision. I was genuinely curious how many people would be unable to see through him.

So basically you were posting regarding a person you had already judged fully?

Interesting.

[JeffNights]

He shouldn't have been banned and should be reinstated asap.

I have seen FAR MORE offensive behavior on this board and way more insulting comments directed toward people than what this ground Cat guy did.

And the posting of a poll is a blatant attempt to publicly riducule him, no matter what kinda spin you put on it.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

I remember one of the RWBL owners with smoot in his AIM.. I want to say.. Raven, but I'm not 100% sure, and I'm surprised he would act in this way if it is him

That's a perfect example of why you shouldn't be in the RWLB. You don't even know a major, original owner (and Commish that saved the league) who did WAY more to make the league what it is then people like you (multiple no-show, no-care owner when he realized he has no chance to compete with actual baseball-minds). Go punch a tree. Bob Smoot is 10X the owner you'll ever be (RSSmoot).

I may be over-acting though .

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

So basically you were posting regarding a person you had already judged fully?

Interesting.

Yup. Just like "I will not accept a banning." and "I will come back stronger and more powerful than ever." No one complained about those, now did they?

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Aren't cats already on the ground? Now maybe if it was like GroundBat it would make more sense.

You know that Johnny Werzner kid - the kid who delivers papers in the
neighborhood? He's a fine kid. Some of the neighbors say he smokes
crack, but I don't believe it. Anyway, for his 10th birthday, all he
wanted was a burrow owl, just like his old man. "Dad, get me a burrow
owl. I'll never ask for anything else as long as I live". So the guy
breaks down and buys him a burrow owl. Anyway at 10:30 the other night I
go out into my yard and there's the Werzner kid looking up in the tree. I
said, "What are you looking for?" He said, "I'm looking for my burrow
owl." I say, "Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick! Everybody knows that a
burrow owl lives in a hole in the ground! Why the hell do you think they
call it a burrow owl, anyway?!" Now Stuart, do you think a kid like that
is gonna know what the queers are doing to the soil?

[ThunderingHERD]

What exactly is the fascination with banning people? Isn't there an ignore function on this board? As long as someone not posting porn all over the place, or something along those lines, who is he hurting?

I could care less if this guys posts or not, and I'm sure he doesn't care much himself. Sounds like he was just having a little fun and rousing you up--which, with the creation of this thread, appears to have succeeded beyond his expectations. If you want to ban him, I guess that's your perogative, but it seems a little petty to me. As does creating a thread trolling for cheerleaders on that decision.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Yup. Just like "I will not accept a banning." and "I will come back stronger and more powerful than ever." No one complained about those, now did they?

Hey man, I'm scared of you. I mean no ill-will. I am harmless.

[Suicane75]

I obviously could make some money selling bridges to the folks in this thread.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Sounds like he was just having a little fun and rousing you up--which, with the creation of this thread, appears to have succeeded beyond his expectations.

ROFLMBAO!!! Rousing me up? Hardly. I find him hilariously funny, in a laughing-at-him-not-with-him sort of way. You really don't get me if you think this clown has gotten to me.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

I obviously could make some money selling bridges to the folks in this thread.

Is it Covered-up? If so, I expect a large discount.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

ROFLMBAO!!! Rousing me up? Hardly. I find him hilariously funny, in a laughing-at-him-not-with-him sort of way. You really don't get me if you think this clown has gotten to me.

You are a Rock. You are an Islaaaaaand.

[ThunderingHERD]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

ROFLMBAO!!! Rousing me up? Hardly. I find him hilariously funny, in a laughing-at-him-not-with-him sort of way. You really don't get me if you think this clown has gotten to me.

I don't mean at all that he pissed you off, just got a reaction. Just an observation, but he's probably laughing at you in the same way--since it was obvious he was just trying to get some attention and you've certainly given it to him with this thread.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

You are a Rock. You are an Islaaaaaand.

My favorite reference in this thread was the one from Crimson Tide.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

My favorite reference in this thread was the one from Crimson Tide.

Have I told my 4th of July Gene Hackman story? Last year, on the 4th of July, I celebrated the holiday with Mr. Hackman and his family (and the other 6-7 houses) on Blakley Island in the San Juans. It was.....extremely nice.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Have I told my 4th of July Gene Hackman story? Last year, on the 4th of July, I celebrated the holiday with Mr. Hackman and his family (and the other 6-7 houses) on Blakley Island in the San Juans. It was.....extremely nice.

NICE!!!

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

NICE!!!

My Step-mom is very wealthy. I am not. However, I am more excited about the 4th of July than I have ever been. These people spend more of their own money than most small towns on fireworks and food. Blakley Island's nemesis is Obstructilon Island. Unfortunately, OI beat us last year on the weight of one of their Tycoon's Firework raft. My step-father is determined to not allow that to happen.

Updates as they are available.

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

My Step-mom is very wealthy. I am not. However, I am more excited about the 4th of July than I have ever been. These people spend more of their own money than most small towns on fireworks and food. Blakley Island's nemesis is Obstructilon Island. Unfortunately, OI beat us last year on the weight of one of their Tycoon's Firework raft. My step-father is determined to not allow that to happen.

Updates as they are available.

Dynasty please.