Enigma Puzzle #31 - Page 2

weinstein7 · 01-27-2005, 04:17 PM

That's my guess. It is a big train.

And perhaps John Riggins for "Diesel"

QuikSand · 01-27-2005, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weinstein7

And perhaps John Riggins for "Diesel"

Good call.

weinstein7 · 01-27-2005, 04:22 PM

So that's all of them. I looked to find a pattern by sport, but I couldn't come up with anything. I thought perhaps there's a "telephone game" kind of pattern, but again, couldn't make it work. It must have something to do with those file names, but I got nothing there.

Buzzbee · 01-27-2005, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma

For reference

weinstein7 · 01-27-2005, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huckleberry

A-3 A-8 D-8 E-2 E-8 G-3 G-7 H-9 I-5 I-9 K-7 L-1 N-9 N-10 O-6 O-10 R-1 R-5 R-8 T-4

1 L, R
2 E
3 A, G
4 T
5 I, R
6 O
7 G, K
8 A, D, E, R
9 I, H, N
10 N, O

Buzzbee · 01-27-2005, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand

No evidence that this particular set of pairings is relevant, but just in case this triggers something with someone… (I’m using given first names here, too – just in case that might be what we’re looking for)

A-3 Ty Cobb
A-8 Jim Hunter
D-8 Vinnie Johnson
E-2 Dennis Boyd
E-8 Ron Jaworski
G-3 Ozzie Smith
G-7 Jerome Bettis
H-9 Lenny Dykstra
I-5 Lou Groza
I-9 Christy Matthewson
K-7 Mark McGwire
L-1 Michael Jordan
N-9 Bill Parcells
N-10 Walter Johnson?
O-6 Paul Bryant
O-10 Lance Alworth
R-1 Hank Aaron
R-5 Walter Payton
R-8 William Perry
T-4 John Riggins?

Ref.

weinstein7 · 01-27-2005, 06:01 PM

bump.

Anyone got anything? I'm stumped. I think the letter/number combos indicate a cyper of some sort, perhaps which letter(s) of each name are to be used, but I can't figure it out at all.

cuervo72 · 01-27-2005, 06:56 PM

Nice sense of humor, enigma.

cuervo72 · 01-27-2005, 07:03 PM

Dola - now off to try something else.

enigma · 01-27-2005, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Nice sense of humor, enigma.

Don't be discouraged,
don't you fear.
When you find the 'may',
the answer is near.

weinstein7 · 01-27-2005, 09:20 PM

Something with dates perhaps? Maybe we should get birthdays on all these guys.

Pyser · 01-27-2005, 09:27 PM

go for it

Radii · 01-28-2005, 09:05 AM

not a single one born in may

cuervo72 · 01-28-2005, 09:11 AM

I tried a couple of equations (L - 1 = K for instance) but didn't get very far. The thought was that if some of the resulting letters were M, A, Y, and we could find the correct way to get them in that order...but like I said, wasn't working.

Radii · 01-28-2005, 09:13 AM

Quote:

A-3 Ty Cobb - 12/18/1886
A-8 Jim Hunter - 4/8/1946
D-8 Vinnie Johnson - 9/1/1956
E-2 Dennis Boyd - 10/6/1959
E-8 Ron Jaworski - 3/23/1951
G-3 Ozzie Smith - 12/26/1954
G-7 Jerome Bettis - 2/16/1972
H-9 Lenny Dykstra - 2/10/1963
I-5 Lou Groza - 1/25/1924
I-9 Christy Matthewson - 8/12/1880
K-7 Mark McGwire - 10/1/1963
L-1 Michael Jordan - 2/17/1963
N-9 Bill Parcells - 8/22/1941
N-10 Walter Johnson - 11/6/1887
O-6 Paul Bryant - 9/11/1913
O-10 Lance Alworth - 8/3/1940
R-1 Hank Aaron - 2/5/1934
R-5 Walter Payton - 7/25/1954
R-8 William Perry - 12/16/1962
T-4 John Riggins - 8/4/1949

With birthdates.

cuervo72 · 01-28-2005, 09:13 AM

The only other thought was that if the numbers were months (all under 12) and the letters were days (their numerical equivalents), they could be dates as expressed under the Euro convention. Worth exploring I guess, but not convinced.

Buzzbee · 01-28-2005, 09:16 AM

Anyone think it is important that Jerome Bettis is the only one on this list still active?

Radii · 01-28-2005, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzbee

Anyone think it is important that Jerome Bettis is the only one on this list still active?

parcells is still coaching. no idea about it being relevant/important.

Buzzbee · 01-28-2005, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radii

parcells is still coaching. no idea about it being relevant/important.

Oops. Missed that, obviously.

weinstein7 · 01-28-2005, 09:26 AM

A-3 Ty Cobb 12/18/86
A-8 Jim Hunter 4/8/46
D-8 Vinnie Johnson 9/1/56
E-2 Dennis Boyd 10/6/59
E-8 Ron Jaworski 3/23/51
G-3 Ozzie Smith 12/26/54
G-7 Jerome Bettis 2/16/72
H-9 Lenny Dykstra 2/10/63
I-5 Lou Groza 1/25/24
I-9 Christy Matthewson 8/12/80
K-7 Mark McGwire 10/1/63
L-1 Michael Jordan 2/17/73
N-9 Bill Parcells 8/22/41
N-10 Walter Johnson 9/30/27
O-6 Paul Bryant 9/11/13
O-10 Lance Alworth 8/30/40
R-1 Hank Aaron 4/13/54
R-5 Walter Payton 7/25/54
R-8 William Perry 12/16/62
T-4 John Riggins 8/4/49

maybe this will help

enigma · 01-28-2005, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma

Don't be discouraged,
don't you fear.
When you find the 'may',
the answer is near.

Errr...Well in retrospect, this clue is deceiving. The 'may' reference was something I took out of the puzzle before posting

...what it should say is:

Don't be discouraged,
don't you fear.
When you find the 'fish',
the answer is near.

I believe cuervo was on the right track with his previous effort.

cuervo72 · 01-28-2005, 11:12 AM

Mmm, well I found the fish...my work is in a file at home though

JeeberD · 01-28-2005, 11:51 AM

This is the part of the puzzle where I become useless...

weinstein7 · 01-29-2005, 11:44 PM

Cuervo, did you ever figure this thing out?

cuervo72 · 01-30-2005, 07:27 AM

No...still meaning to revisit this.

QuikSand · 01-30-2005, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma

Don't be discouraged,
don't you fear.
When you find the 'fish',
the answer is near.

I believe cuervo was on the right track with his previous effort.

fish = Pisces?

cuervo72 · 01-30-2005, 09:20 AM

Fish = "LOOKINGATAREDHERRING", or something to that effect if I'm deciphering it right.

Basically I acted on the from Aaron to Williams clue and sorted the list into alphabetical order according to nickname. The above string is what appeared.

That's about where I left it a couple of days ago. The 'may' clue confused me a bit, but I guess I was on the right track - I just haven't duplicated my work yet (I didn't save the spreadsheet).

mhass · 01-30-2005, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma

Don't be discouraged,
don't you fear.
When you find the 'fish',
[i]the answer is near.

Possibly too simple, but the answer isn't a play off "near" is it. If you got the red herring message through the pictures, perhaps that has no relevance other than to tell us to go another way.

Airhog · 01-30-2005, 11:44 AM

Heres a few thoughts, not sure if they are helpful.
1. A red herring is always a useless clue in most adventure games. Since enigma has told us we are close when we find the red herring, I believe we are on the right path.
2. I think there is something in the list that doesnt fit, and is the red herring, and is the anwser to the puzzle, or will lead us to the anwser.
3. The only other thought I have is the numbers are near the red herring, but im not sure that helps any.

Airhog · 01-30-2005, 11:46 AM

L	1	Michael Jordan	Air	Basketball
O	10	Lance Alworth	Bambi	Football
O	6	Paul Bryant	Bear	Football
K	7	Mark McGwire	Big Mac	Baseball
I	9	Christy Matthewson	Big Six	Baseball
N	10	Walter Johnson	Big Train	Baseball
G	7	Jerome Bettis	Bus	Football
A	8	Jim Hunter	Catfish	Baseball
T	4	John Riggins	Diesel	Football
A	3	Ty Cobb	Georgia Peach	Baseball
R	1	Hank Aaron	Hammering	Baseball
E	8	Ron Jaworski	Jaws	Football
D	8	Vinnie Johnson	Microwave	Basketball
H	9	Lenny Dykstra	Nails	Baseball
E	2	Dennis Boyd	Oil Can	Basketball
R	5	Walter Payton	Sweetness	Football
R	8	William Perry	The Fridge	Football
I	5	Lou Groza	The Toe	Football
N	9	Bill Parcells	Tuna	Football
G	3	Ozzie Smith	Wizard of OZ	Baseball

mhass · 01-30-2005, 05:08 PM

1 Jordan
1 Aaron
2 Boyd
3 Cobb
3 Smith
4 Riggins
5 Payton
5 Groza
6 Bryant
7 Bettis
8 Jaworski
8 Johnson
8 Perry
9 Dykstra
9 Parcells

Just a look at a different sort order.

enigma · 01-31-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solution

Michael "Air" Jordan
Lance "Bambi" Allworth (Edit - Alworth is the correct spelling)
Paul "Bear" Bryant
Mark "Big Mac" McGwire
Christy "Big Six" Mathewson
Walter "Big Train" Johnson
Jerome "Bus" Bettis
Jim "Catfish" Hunter
John "Diesel" Riggins
Ty "Georgia Peach" Cobb
Henry "Hammer" Aaron
Ron "Jaws" Jaworski
Vinnie "Microwave" Johnson
Lenny "Nails" Dykstra
Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd
William "Refrigerator" Perry
Walter "Sweetness" Payton
Lou "Toe" Groza
Bill "Tuna" Parcells
Ozzie "Wizard of Oz" Smith

From "Admiral" David Robinson
to "Wild Thing" Mitch Williams,
Nicknames are a part of sports
as much as "taters" or "slams".

Put them in alphabetical order according to nicknames and read the file names. Along with a message of "Looking at a Red Herring" (which IS the red herring), you'll see numbers that correspond to letters in the player names (L-1 for "MichaelJordan" = M, O-10 for "LanceAllworth" = O, etc)
String those letters together to get: "MORGANBENCHROSEPEREZ" -- What was the collective nickname of Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench, Pete Rose & Tony Perez?

bigredmachine

Next puzzle will be up within a few days.

QuikSand · 01-31-2005, 10:02 AM

Pretty cool. Glad it's solved.

cuervo72 · 01-31-2005, 10:10 AM

Ahh, tricky. Nice puzzle. I thought of pulling letters from the names, but dismissed it when I saw some of the numbers were larger than the length of the last names...didn't even occur to me to include the first names.

WSUCougar · 01-31-2005, 10:16 AM

Nice work.

Airhog · 01-31-2005, 04:47 PM

damn I had done this once, but I didnt try it with the names in the right order

weinstein7 · 01-31-2005, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airhog

damn I had done this once, but I didnt try it with the names in the right order

Yeah, me too. It's amazing how obvious it is when it's revealed.

mhass · 02-04-2005, 03:05 PM

Bump.

Where's my enigma?!!! I need something to do once the Super Bowl gets boring.

01-27-2005, 06:56 PM	#58
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Nice sense of humor, enigma. __________________ null

01-27-2005, 07:03 PM	#59
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Dola - now off to try something else. __________________ null

01-28-2005, 09:11 AM	#64
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I tried a couple of equations (L - 1 = K for instance) but didn't get very far. The thought was that if some of the resulting letters were M, A, Y, and we could find the correct way to get them in that order...but like I said, wasn't working. __________________ null

01-28-2005, 09:13 AM	#66
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	The only other thought was that if the numbers were months (all under 12) and the letters were days (their numerical equivalents), they could be dates as expressed under the Euro convention. Worth exploring I guess, but not convinced. __________________ null Last edited by cuervo72 : 01-28-2005 at 09:14 AM.

01-28-2005, 09:16 AM	#67
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	Anyone think it is important that Jerome Bettis is the only one on this list still active? __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

01-27-2005, 04:22 PM	#53
weinstein7 High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester, NY	So that's all of them. I looked to find a pattern by sport, but I couldn't come up with anything. I thought perhaps there's a "telephone game" kind of pattern, but again, couldn't make it work. It must have something to do with those file names, but I got nothing there.

01-27-2005, 06:01 PM	#57
weinstein7 High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester, NY	bump. Anyone got anything? I'm stumped. I think the letter/number combos indicate a cyper of some sort, perhaps which letter(s) of each name are to be used, but I can't figure it out at all.

01-27-2005, 09:20 PM	#61
weinstein7 High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester, NY	Something with dates perhaps? Maybe we should get birthdays on all these guys.

01-27-2005, 09:27 PM	#62
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	go for it

01-28-2005, 09:05 AM	#63
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	not a single one born in may

01-28-2005, 09:26 AM	#70
weinstein7 High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester, NY	A-3 Ty Cobb 12/18/86 A-8 Jim Hunter 4/8/46 D-8 Vinnie Johnson 9/1/56 E-2 Dennis Boyd 10/6/59 E-8 Ron Jaworski 3/23/51 G-3 Ozzie Smith 12/26/54 G-7 Jerome Bettis 2/16/72 H-9 Lenny Dykstra 2/10/63 I-5 Lou Groza 1/25/24 I-9 Christy Matthewson 8/12/80 K-7 Mark McGwire 10/1/63 L-1 Michael Jordan 2/17/73 N-9 Bill Parcells 8/22/41 N-10 Walter Johnson 9/30/27 O-6 Paul Bryant 9/11/13 O-10 Lance Alworth 8/30/40 R-1 Hank Aaron 4/13/54 R-5 Walter Payton 7/25/54 R-8 William Perry 12/16/62 T-4 John Riggins 8/4/49 maybe this will help

01-28-2005, 11:12 AM	#72
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Mmm, well I found the fish...my work is in a file at home though __________________ null

01-28-2005, 11:51 AM	#73
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	This is the part of the puzzle where I become useless... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

01-29-2005, 11:44 PM	#74
weinstein7 High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester, NY	Cuervo, did you ever figure this thing out?

01-30-2005, 07:27 AM	#75
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	No...still meaning to revisit this. __________________ null

01-30-2005, 09:20 AM	#77
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Fish = "LOOKINGATAREDHERRING", or something to that effect if I'm deciphering it right. Basically I acted on the from Aaron to Williams clue and sorted the list into alphabetical order according to nickname. The above string is what appeared. That's about where I left it a couple of days ago. The 'may' clue confused me a bit, but I guess I was on the right track - I just haven't duplicated my work yet (I didn't save the spreadsheet). __________________ null

01-30-2005, 11:44 AM	#79
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Heres a few thoughts, not sure if they are helpful. 1. A red herring is always a useless clue in most adventure games. Since enigma has told us we are close when we find the red herring, I believe we are on the right path. 2. I think there is something in the list that doesnt fit, and is the red herring, and is the anwser to the puzzle, or will lead us to the anwser. 3. The only other thought I have is the numbers are near the red herring, but im not sure that helps any. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

01-30-2005, 05:08 PM	#81
mhass High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here	1 Jordan 1 Aaron 2 Boyd 3 Cobb 3 Smith 4 Riggins 5 Payton 5 Groza 6 Bryant 7 Bettis 8 Jaworski 8 Johnson 8 Perry 9 Dykstra 9 Parcells Just a look at a different sort order.

01-31-2005, 10:02 AM	#83
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Pretty cool. Glad it's solved.

01-31-2005, 10:10 AM	#84
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Ahh, tricky. Nice puzzle. I thought of pulling letters from the names, but dismissed it when I saw some of the numbers were larger than the length of the last names...didn't even occur to me to include the first names. __________________ null

01-31-2005, 10:16 AM	#85
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Nice work. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

01-31-2005, 04:47 PM	#86
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	damn I had done this once, but I didnt try it with the names in the right order __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

02-04-2005, 03:05 PM	#88
mhass High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here	Bump. Where's my enigma?!!! I need something to do once the Super Bowl gets boring. __________________ Now while I wasn't able to cut everyone I wanted to, I have cut a lot of you. - H.J.S.

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