The Rose Bowl - Page 18

tucker rocky · 01-04-2006, 11:33 PM

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A cheap post.

mauchow · 01-04-2006, 11:33 PM

VY is funny.

SirFozzie · 01-04-2006, 11:33 PM

don't believe so, the Jarrett TD was the first passing TD

sterlingice · 01-04-2006, 11:34 PM

Young just seems like a bit of an ass, tho, I gotta say.

SI

tucker rocky · 01-04-2006, 11:34 PM

Just to make page 18 in the thread.

Blade6119 · 01-04-2006, 11:34 PM

# of mobile QBs faced all year by USC=1...losses=1...they just couldnt contain a mobile, Vince Young was just a plus...so dont glorify him too much...his passes were all short, as you can see with his stats

biological warrior · 01-04-2006, 11:35 PM

So, was that THE greatest game ever?

cthomer5000 · 01-04-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Young just seems like a bit of an ass, tho, I gotta say.

SI

Really? I think he just seems like a really relaxed, funny guy.

Ksyrup · 01-04-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PineTar

don't get caught up in the moment... USC's defense made a lot of guys look good this year.

Exactly. Young is very good, but I can't believe NFL scouts will be so wowed by this performance - as opposed to evaluating everything he's done up until now - that they'll upgrade him for singlehandledly beating a bad defense. I don't care how dominant USC has been, they still have a Pac-10 defense. And that's what lost them the game.

cuervo72 · 01-04-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Young just seems like a bit of an ass, tho, I gotta say.

SI

Yeah, babee!

aran · 01-04-2006, 11:35 PM

One thing that might've hurt USC: 20-35 lost seconds at the end of the game because of botched clock work the entire game. In at least two instances a player has been out of bounds after a play and the clock has not been stopped. Combine that with iffy officiating and this game is a mess.

I was routing for UT, though, so i'm pretty happy.

kingfc22 · 01-04-2006, 11:35 PM


1st Downs	30	30
3rd down efficiency	8-14	3-11
4th down efficiency	1-3	1-2
Total Yards	573	557
Passing	367	267
Comp-Att	29-41	30-40
Yards per pass	8.5	6.7
Rushing	206	290
Rushing Attempts	41	36
Yards per rush	5.0	8.1
Penalties	5-30	4-34
Turnovers	2	1
Fumbles lost	1	1
Interceptions thrown	1	0

Radii · 01-04-2006, 11:35 PM

I went back and replayed the Bush fumble/lateral/pass in slow motion a few times, someone(cthomer I think?) asked about it. Bush is going forward at pretty increidble speed, he starts the lateral attempt at like the 23 and doesn't fall down until the 16 or so, but from what I can tell he released the ball on the 21 yard line, and the ball hit the ground at around the 19. Almost without question Bush released the ball before the 20 and the ball landed inside the 20. It was a forward pass.

Swaggs · 01-04-2006, 11:36 PM

Great game by two great teams.

It actually lived up to the hype.

cthomer5000 · 01-04-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

I went back and replayed the Bush fumble/lateral/pass in slow motion a few times, someone(cthomer I think?) asked about it. Bush is going forward at pretty increidble speed, he starts the lateral attempt at like the 23 and doesn't fall down until the 16 or so, but from what I can tell he released the ball on the 21 yard line, and the ball hit the ground at around the 19. Almost without question Bush released the ball before the 20 and the ball landed inside the 20. It was a forward pass.

Thanks for the homework. I have no idea how everyone involved in the game (and apparently almost all of us watching) totally blanked on that.

biological warrior · 01-04-2006, 11:36 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo..._boxscore.html

Ksyrup · 01-04-2006, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radii

I went back and replayed the Bush fumble/lateral/pass in slow motion a few times, someone(cthomer I think?) asked about it. Bush is going forward at pretty increidble speed, he starts the lateral attempt at like the 23 and doesn't fall down until the 16 or so, but from what I can tell he released the ball on the 21 yard line, and the ball hit the ground at around the 19. Almost without question Bush released the ball before the 20 and the ball landed inside the 20. It was a forward pass.

Who cares? Didn't Texas recover, meaning they would have declined any penalties against USC?

tarcone · 01-04-2006, 11:36 PM

greatest game ever? iowa -lsu last year or iowa-michigan in 85 i believe iowa ranked #1 michigan #2 iowa wins 12-10 but im biased

Grammaticus · 01-04-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

# of mobile QBs faced all year by USC=1...losses=1...they just couldnt contain a mobile, Vince Young was just a plus...so dont glorify him too much...his passes were all short, as you can see with his stats

I don't think VY is the best ever, but he just beat the best college team in history and it was fun watching. It will be even more fun watching all the ESPN dorks continue to fawn all over USC, what gives?

Noop · 01-04-2006, 11:37 PM

Vince Young would have beaten any team tonight. That guy played lights out and for him to step up in a big game like this is just special.

Senator · 01-04-2006, 11:37 PM

I am so damn happy.

cthomer5000 · 01-04-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Who cares? Didn't Texas recover, meaning they would have declined any penalties against USC?

You can't "recover" an incomplete pass. It should have been a penalty from the spot of the illegal pass, and USC would have retained posession.

Buccaneer · 01-04-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Exactly. Young is very good, but I can't believe NFL scouts will be so wowed by this performance - as opposed to evaluating everything he's done up until now - that they'll upgrade him for singlehandledly beating a bad defense. I don't care how dominant USC has been, they still have a Pac-10 defense. And that's what lost them the game.

Singlehandedly. Let's see how that plays in the NFL.

INDalltheway · 01-04-2006, 11:37 PM

I don't think anyone can realize how amazing of a game we just witnessed.. The game had everything. Vince Young was simply amazing, and he probably had one of the best performances ever.. Also, USC celebrated every TD during the game, while Young was humble as can be. WOW.. amazing.

Dekanth · 01-04-2006, 11:38 PM

Regarding the NFL, outside of a short stretch by McNair and the early part of McNabb's career, a running QB still does not equal great success in the NFL. The defenses are faster and stronger and they will chase the QB down and hurt them. VY at least has a big frame going for him, which could help make him more durable than a Mike Vick, but I am not sold on his NFL ability.

Still, greatest single game performance on a big stage...ever.

jbmagic · 01-04-2006, 11:38 PM

Matt Leinart just said we are the better team still. did anybody catch that?

sachmo71 · 01-04-2006, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by biological warrior

Didnt he pass for 0ne too?

No, but Matt did.

biological warrior · 01-04-2006, 11:38 PM

Now I can finally say.......................................................................................................................reggie WHO????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Ksyrup · 01-04-2006, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

You can't "recover" an incomplete pass. It should have been a penalty from the spot of the illegal pass, and USC would have retained posession.

Did I mention it's 2 hours past my bed time?

Dutch · 01-04-2006, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

You can't "recover" an incomplete pass. It should have been a penalty from the spot of the illegal pass, and USC would have retained posession.

Exactly. But I must admit, I like this ending better.

tarcone · 01-04-2006, 11:39 PM

Young led the nation in passing efficiency

Swaggs · 01-04-2006, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator

I am so damn happy.

Congrats. I was telling my wife down the stretch that I was happy that WVU wasn't in this game, because my stomach would have been in knots in the last two minutes (well, probably the whole game, but especially the last two minutes).

Galaxy · 01-04-2006, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119

# of mobile QBs faced all year by USC=1...losses=1...they just couldnt contain a mobile, Vince Young was just a plus...so dont glorify him too much...his passes were all short, as you can see with his stats

Please, this is a load of crap. Young went 30/40, and ran for over 200 yards.

cthomer5000 · 01-04-2006, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Exactly. But I must admit, I like this ending better.

Me too.

Dutch · 01-04-2006, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biological warrior

Now I can finally say.......................................................................................................................reggie WHO????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I was pretty impressed with "Thunder".

Radii · 01-04-2006, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Who cares? Didn't Texas recover, meaning they would have declined any penalties against USC?

Can you decline that? If its called a forward pass its not a fumble, so no change of posession can occur, i think. I dunno, I'm not a rules expert at all.

I'm also not trying to take anything from the Texas fans here, I am just showing off that I have tivo and that its totally awesome

astrosfan64 · 01-04-2006, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Matt Leinart just said we are the better team still. did anybody catch that?

Yeah I caught that. The greatest team of all time wouldn't lose the championship would they?

cartman · 01-04-2006, 11:40 PM

Ryan Perrilloux and Adrian Peterson, go ask the LSU and OU recruiters again why you wouldn't have a chance to win a championship at Texas....

kingfc22 · 01-04-2006, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biological warrior

Now I can finally say.......................................................................................................................reggie WHO????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

The guy had 275 total yards in the game.

sachmo71 · 01-04-2006, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biological warrior

Now I can finally say.......................................................................................................................reggie WHO????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

That's Reggie Bush, 1st overall pick on my crappy, rebuilding keeper league team! WHOOT!

But will it be Houston? Or New Orleans?

cmp · 01-04-2006, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Matt Leinart just said we are the better team still. did anybody catch that?

I've never liked Leinhart, that makes me dislike him even more.

astrosfan64 · 01-04-2006, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop

Vince Young would have beaten any team tonight. That guy played lights out and for him to step up in a big game like this is just special.

A healthy penn state woudl of beat them.

Ksyrup · 01-04-2006, 11:41 PM

Apparently Leinart is suffering from the same delusions which allowed USC to claim it was going for a threepeat.

VPI97 · 01-04-2006, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator

We finally did it. I lived to see it.

Congrats dude. Have a beer for me.

PineTar · 01-04-2006, 11:42 PM

I will say this... Vince Young would be making the exact same mistake Matt Leinart made last year if he forgoes the NFL draft. He's definitely a top 3 pick if not higher.

GrantDawg · 01-04-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Please, this is a load of crap. Young went 30/40, and ran for over 200 yards.

But he should have went 40 for 40. I mean, come on! Leinart didn't miss on any passes, did he? Oh, wait....

duckman · 01-04-2006, 11:42 PM

Simply an amazing game. Congrats to Vince and the Longhorns!

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2006, 11:42 PM

leinhart actually said that?? what a putz. compare that with what Mack Brown said first thing.

VPI97 · 01-04-2006, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Matt Leinart just said we are the better team still. did anybody catch that?

So did Carroll in his post-game words. I guess they've forgotten how to lose gracefully.

mauchow · 01-04-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gold101

I've never liked Leinhart, that makes me dislike him even more.

Well, he was put on the spot with a question.. All he said was..

Hey, it was a hard-fought battle, I felt we were the better team but they came up big at the end.

It wasn't like he said..

"Man, we were so much better than them, we shoulda won, wah wah wah.."

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01-04-2006, 11:36 PM	#864
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01-04-2006, 11:37 PM	#870
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01-04-2006, 11:33 PM	#852
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	VY is funny.

01-04-2006, 11:34 PM	#855
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Just to make page 18 in the thread.

01-04-2006, 11:35 PM	#857
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	So, was that THE greatest game ever?

01-04-2006, 11:35 PM	#861
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	One thing that might've hurt USC: 20-35 lost seconds at the end of the game because of botched clock work the entire game. In at least two instances a player has been out of bounds after a play and the clock has not been stopped. Combine that with iffy officiating and this game is a mess. I was routing for UT, though, so i'm pretty happy.

01-04-2006, 11:35 PM	#863
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I went back and replayed the Bush fumble/lateral/pass in slow motion a few times, someone(cthomer I think?) asked about it. Bush is going forward at pretty increidble speed, he starts the lateral attempt at like the 23 and doesn't fall down until the 16 or so, but from what I can tell he released the ball on the 21 yard line, and the ball hit the ground at around the 19. Almost without question Bush released the ball before the 20 and the ball landed inside the 20. It was a forward pass.

01-04-2006, 11:36 PM	#866
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo..._boxscore.html

01-04-2006, 11:36 PM	#868
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	greatest game ever? iowa -lsu last year or iowa-michigan in 85 i believe iowa ranked #1 michigan #2 iowa wins 12-10 but im biased

01-04-2006, 11:37 PM	#871
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01-04-2006, 11:37 PM	#874
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	I don't think anyone can realize how amazing of a game we just witnessed.. The game had everything. Vince Young was simply amazing, and he probably had one of the best performances ever.. Also, USC celebrated every TD during the game, while Young was humble as can be. WOW.. amazing.

01-04-2006, 11:38 PM	#875
Dekanth Mascot Join Date: Sep 2005	Regarding the NFL, outside of a short stretch by McNair and the early part of McNabb's career, a running QB still does not equal great success in the NFL. The defenses are faster and stronger and they will chase the QB down and hurt them. VY at least has a big frame going for him, which could help make him more durable than a Mike Vick, but I am not sold on his NFL ability. Still, greatest single game performance on a big stage...ever.

01-04-2006, 11:38 PM	#876
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Matt Leinart just said we are the better team still. did anybody catch that?

01-04-2006, 11:38 PM	#878
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	Now I can finally say.......................................................................................................................reggie WHO????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

01-04-2006, 11:39 PM	#881
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Young led the nation in passing efficiency

01-04-2006, 11:40 PM	#888
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01-04-2006, 11:41 PM	#893
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01-04-2006, 11:42 PM	#895
PineTar High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000	I will say this... Vince Young would be making the exact same mistake Matt Leinart made last year if he forgoes the NFL draft. He's definitely a top 3 pick if not higher.

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