NFL WEEK 1 - Page 15

RainMaker · 09-14-2009, 09:35 PM

Mike and Mike are horrible. Can't stand how ESPN pushes them on things they aren't good at.

I like Gruden and think having a coaches perspective in the booth is nice. I think he was trying a little too hard to be noticed instead of just pitching in with insightful things that a coach would say.

Logan · 09-14-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Your apology is not accepted. Please stop posting in this thread until you get a better connection.

Thx

Nah, just gonna keep on going so I can bother other people as much as I'm annoying myself.

SirFozzie · 09-14-2009, 09:37 PM

You know you're getting old when at the end of a game like tonight, you expect to see it about 5 years on "Alcoa's Fantastic Finishes"

wade moore · 09-14-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Are you talking about the passes to Heyward-Bey or the Al Davis mooning?

nicely played!

wade moore · 09-14-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Mike and Mike are horrible. Can't stand how ESPN pushes them on things they aren't good at.

Like hosting a morning radio show?

RedKingGold · 09-14-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Mike and Mike are horrible. Can't stand how ESPN pushes them on things they aren't good at.

Like life?

muns · 09-14-2009, 09:41 PM

the Raiders actually look pretty good

spleen1015 · 09-14-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Like hosting a morning radio show?

Well, they do have the highest rated, most listened to morning show, I believe.

That's why they put them on tv.

wade moore · 09-14-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Well, they do have the highest rated, most listened to morning show, I believe.

That doesn't mean it's good.

And be curious if this is actually true (JiMG?) - but there are a lot of ways to spin ratings to say this, I'd find it hard to believe if they lead in any market individual market that they are in.

Karlifornia · 09-14-2009, 09:44 PM

Janikowski is pretty much just a tackling dummy

bhlloy · 09-14-2009, 09:44 PM

This could be the worst defense in the league. Pass defense was already horrible last year, they basically return the exact same personnel and the run defense looks absolutely pathetic this far. Only so long you can keep sending out a 47 year old Jamal Williams and asking him to stop the other teams running game all by himself.

And LOL at Kevin Burnett trying to cover a tight end in space. "uh, where'd he go..."

Logan · 09-14-2009, 09:46 PM

FYI, Yahoo PBP for that last play:

4th-20, BUF30 0:01 T. Edwards passed to D. Schouman to the right for 23 yard gain. lateral to R. Parrish for 4 yards. lateral to F. Jackson for 3 yards. F. Jackson fumbled. R. Parrish recovered fumble

I checked on Jackson earlier, and I'm about 99% sure he had 5 catches for 80 yards. Now he's at 5 for 83, with no lost fumble listed.

Swaggs · 09-14-2009, 09:46 PM

What do we have to do to get Gus Johnson on something better than CBS' 2nd or 3rd best game of the week?

JeeberD · 09-14-2009, 09:50 PM

It feels very, very weird rooting for the Raiders. Can I just root for Thomas Howard and Johnnie Lee Higgins instead?

JeeberD · 09-14-2009, 09:51 PM

Dola-

WTF is up with the ref's unis?

spleen1015 · 09-14-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Dola-

WTF is up with the ref's unis?

Throwbacks!

miami_fan · 09-14-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

What do we have to do to get Gus Johnson on something better than CBS' 2nd or 3rd best game of the week?

I would think that he would be considered TOO exciting for the lead game of the week.

RainMaker · 09-14-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Like hosting a morning radio show?

They had them do Arena Football and Spelling Bee also. I know Greenberg does SportsCenters once in awhile but they sometimes have Golic on them too. Didn't Greenberg also host some game show on ABC?

RainMaker · 09-14-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

FYI, Yahoo PBP for that last play:

4th-20, BUF30 0:01 T. Edwards passed to D. Schouman to the right for 23 yard gain. lateral to R. Parrish for 4 yards. lateral to F. Jackson for 3 yards. F. Jackson fumbled. R. Parrish recovered fumble

I checked on Jackson earlier, and I'm about 99% sure he had 5 catches for 80 yards. Now he's at 5 for 83, with no lost fumble listed.

Sounds about right. I did notice it went from 80 to 83 at some point. I kept seeing 9 yards on NFL.com so I wasn't sure if it was added in. I guess I should just be happy it wasn't for -1 yards. Although I wonder if they subtract the yardage on the fumble from him since it ended in a dead ball.

Neuqua · 09-14-2009, 10:00 PM

"Can't argue that one.."

"What do you mean you can't argue with that one? That was awful!"

RainMaker · 09-14-2009, 10:01 PM

Is it me or are virtually all the AFL uniforms much better than the current ones?

panerd · 09-14-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

What do we have to do to get Gus Johnson on something better than CBS' 2nd or 3rd best game of the week?

He did the Cincinnati game this week. I guess you could argue the Denver fluke TD play was deserving of the over the top play by play he did but he also was shoveling a lot of that over the top intensity/excitement out for somewhat meaningless plays by both teams throughout the game. He is a little too much.

(I like him for March Madness and non-Cincinnati games but I think it's because I flip around so much to both that I only get him in limited doses.)

panerd · 09-14-2009, 10:07 PM

"Cedric Benson with a RUN!!! Oh what a run!!! WOW!!! Cinci gains 8 yards and a first down at their own 25."

"Orton throws IT LONG!!!! OH ALMOST A GREAT CACTH. Incomplete though and on comes the PUNTING UNIT!"

Abe Sargent · 09-14-2009, 10:08 PM

Yeah, Golic, I;m so sure that Richard Seymour wants a big pay day to help send his four kids to school.

Logan · 09-14-2009, 10:13 PM

Did Steve Young develop a speech problem or is he just nervous?

spleen1015 · 09-14-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Did Steve Young develop a speech problem or is he just nervous?

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe being with the Mikes has made him stoopid.

Young is better than Ditka, who they had with them last year.

Lathum · 09-14-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Am I really going to have to listen to Greenberg's nasalness for three hours?

Mute button engaged!

we finally agree on something

Logan · 09-14-2009, 10:28 PM

10% of a story on Brent Jones, trying to talk over Greenberg doing the pbp, getting Oakland WRs wrong...now I just think my boy Steve is drunk.

DataKing · 09-14-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

You know you're getting old when at the end of a game like tonight, you expect to see it about 5 years on "Alcoa's Fantastic Finishes"

Wow...hadn't thought about the Alcoa stuff in YEARS! Fantastic Finishes and "You Make the Call!"

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Izulde · 09-14-2009, 10:35 PM

I'm rooting for the Chargers in this one. They're my second favorite team in the league.

Swaggs · 09-14-2009, 10:36 PM

JR does have freakish arm strength.

Rizon · 09-14-2009, 10:41 PM

The announcing is ridiculously horrible.
I had to put the game on mute.

mauchow · 09-14-2009, 10:41 PM

That might be the worst call I have ever seen. He never actually lost possession of the ball even when it hit the ground. His arm is still under the ball. The ref got that wrong. Horribly wrong. WOW.

JS19 · 09-14-2009, 10:41 PM

ummmm.....can someone explain how that was not a TD?

SirFozzie · 09-14-2009, 10:41 PM

So, odds the refs are going to make it out of Oakland alive?

JeeberD · 09-14-2009, 10:41 PM

Wow, what a bad reversal...

Jas_lov · 09-14-2009, 10:41 PM

When his ass hit the ground he had control. I don't understand it at all.

JS19 · 09-14-2009, 10:42 PM

if they rule that an incompletion, they might as well rule it a fumble every time a guy runs in the endzone and drops the ball to the ground

yacovfb · 09-14-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

That might be the worst call I have ever seen. He never actually lost possession of the ball even when it hit the ground. His arm is still under the ball. The ref got that wrong. Horribly wrong. WOW.

As a Chargers fan, I can think of a worse call

That was pretty bad, though.

spleen1015 · 09-14-2009, 10:44 PM

The NFL will be apologizing for that one.

mauchow · 09-14-2009, 10:44 PM

Correction then... The worst call I have ever seen.....this season.

JS19 · 09-14-2009, 10:44 PM

does it matter even if he did lose control when he hit the ground? i'm with steve young on this one, i thought it was as long as you had possession and both feet on the ground, it's done with, TD.

spleen1015 · 09-14-2009, 10:47 PM

Halftime = Bedtime

The Raiders don't look too bad right now. I hope they win just because Phillip Rivers is a dick.

RainMaker · 09-14-2009, 10:48 PM

I don't get it. If he stands up on both feet it's a touchdown, if he stands on both feet and falls down it's and the ball gets loose it's a no-catch?

tucker rocky · 09-14-2009, 10:48 PM

Oakland gets robbed of a TD, because of the pathetic ticky-tacky technicalities of maintaining possession all the way to the ground.

2 feet down, possession, body/butt on the ground, then ball comes out.

DaddyTorgo · 09-14-2009, 10:49 PM

that was a pretty shitty call by the refs there robbing oakland.

the ball didn't even really come loose

Izulde · 09-14-2009, 10:50 PM

*looks at Chris Berman's tie*

Fruit Stripe Bubble Gum called. They want their colors back.

What an ugly, ugly tie.

JS19 · 09-14-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Oakland gets robbed of a TD, because of the pathetic ticky-tacky technicalities of maintaining possession all the way to the ground.

2 feet down, possession, body/butt on the ground, then ball comes out.

Does he have to maintain possession all the way to the ground after he already had 2 feet down?

EagleFan · 09-14-2009, 10:51 PM

I'll disagree in a way. The ball moved as it hit the ground, something which has been highlighted in MANY broadcasts before as being something which will mean incomplete. With that said, I thought the rule was for going to the ground while making a catch because of the receiver's actions, not because he was being tackled (The leaning out of bounds toe tap comes to mind, or diving for a catch in general). I think it was a bad interpretation of the rule but his arm was not under the ball when he hit the ground.

DaddyTorgo · 09-14-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

*looks at Chris Berman*

What a blowhard.

fixed

09-14-2009, 09:37 PM	#703
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	You know you're getting old when at the end of a game like tonight, you expect to see it about 5 years on "Alcoa's Fantastic Finishes" __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-14-2009, 09:41 PM	#707
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	the Raiders actually look pretty good Last edited by muns : 09-14-2009 at 09:41 PM.

09-14-2009, 09:44 PM	#710
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09-14-2009, 09:46 PM	#713
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	What do we have to do to get Gus Johnson on something better than CBS' 2nd or 3rd best game of the week? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

09-14-2009, 09:50 PM	#714
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	It feels very, very weird rooting for the Raiders. Can I just root for Thomas Howard and Johnnie Lee Higgins instead? __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

09-14-2009, 09:35 PM	#701
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Mike and Mike are horrible. Can't stand how ESPN pushes them on things they aren't good at. I like Gruden and think having a coaches perspective in the booth is nice. I think he was trying a little too hard to be noticed instead of just pitching in with insightful things that a coach would say.

09-14-2009, 09:44 PM	#711
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	This could be the worst defense in the league. Pass defense was already horrible last year, they basically return the exact same personnel and the run defense looks absolutely pathetic this far. Only so long you can keep sending out a 47 year old Jamal Williams and asking him to stop the other teams running game all by himself. And LOL at Kevin Burnett trying to cover a tight end in space. "uh, where'd he go..."

09-14-2009, 09:46 PM	#712
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	FYI, Yahoo PBP for that last play: 4th-20, BUF30 0:01 T. Edwards passed to D. Schouman to the right for 23 yard gain. lateral to R. Parrish for 4 yards. lateral to F. Jackson for 3 yards. F. Jackson fumbled. R. Parrish recovered fumble I checked on Jackson earlier, and I'm about 99% sure he had 5 catches for 80 yards. Now he's at 5 for 83, with no lost fumble listed.

09-14-2009, 09:51 PM	#715
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Dola- WTF is up with the ref's unis? __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

09-14-2009, 10:00 PM	#720
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	"Can't argue that one.." "What do you mean you can't argue with that one? That was awful!" __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

09-14-2009, 10:01 PM	#721
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Is it me or are virtually all the AFL uniforms much better than the current ones?

09-14-2009, 10:07 PM	#723
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	"Cedric Benson with a RUN!!! Oh what a run!!! WOW!!! Cinci gains 8 yards and a first down at their own 25." "Orton throws IT LONG!!!! OH ALMOST A GREAT CACTH. Incomplete though and on comes the PUNTING UNIT!"

09-14-2009, 10:08 PM	#724
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09-14-2009, 10:13 PM	#725
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Did Steve Young develop a speech problem or is he just nervous?

09-14-2009, 10:28 PM	#728
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	10% of a story on Brent Jones, trying to talk over Greenberg doing the pbp, getting Oakland WRs wrong...now I just think my boy Steve is drunk.

09-14-2009, 10:35 PM	#730
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I'm rooting for the Chargers in this one. They're my second favorite team in the league. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

09-14-2009, 10:36 PM	#731
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	JR does have freakish arm strength. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

09-14-2009, 10:41 PM	#732
Rizon Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Oakland, CA	The announcing is ridiculously horrible. I had to put the game on mute.

09-14-2009, 10:41 PM	#733
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	That might be the worst call I have ever seen. He never actually lost possession of the ball even when it hit the ground. His arm is still under the ball. The ref got that wrong. Horribly wrong. WOW.

09-14-2009, 10:41 PM	#734
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	ummmm.....can someone explain how that was not a TD?

09-14-2009, 10:41 PM	#735
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	So, odds the refs are going to make it out of Oakland alive? __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-14-2009, 10:41 PM	#736
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Wow, what a bad reversal... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

09-14-2009, 10:41 PM	#737
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	When his ass hit the ground he had control. I don't understand it at all.

09-14-2009, 10:42 PM	#738
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	if they rule that an incompletion, they might as well rule it a fumble every time a guy runs in the endzone and drops the ball to the ground

09-14-2009, 10:44 PM	#740
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	The NFL will be apologizing for that one. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

09-14-2009, 10:44 PM	#741
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Correction then... The worst call I have ever seen.....this season.

09-14-2009, 10:44 PM	#742
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	does it matter even if he did lose control when he hit the ground? i'm with steve young on this one, i thought it was as long as you had possession and both feet on the ground, it's done with, TD.

09-14-2009, 10:47 PM	#743
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Halftime = Bedtime The Raiders don't look too bad right now. I hope they win just because Phillip Rivers is a dick. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

09-14-2009, 10:48 PM	#744
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I don't get it. If he stands up on both feet it's a touchdown, if he stands on both feet and falls down it's and the ball gets loose it's a no-catch?

09-14-2009, 10:48 PM	#745
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Oakland gets robbed of a TD, because of the pathetic ticky-tacky technicalities of maintaining possession all the way to the ground. 2 feet down, possession, body/butt on the ground, then ball comes out.

09-14-2009, 10:49 PM	#746
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09-14-2009, 10:50 PM	#747
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09-14-2009, 10:51 PM	#749
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I'll disagree in a way. The ball moved as it hit the ground, something which has been highlighted in MANY broadcasts before as being something which will mean incomplete. With that said, I thought the rule was for going to the ground while making a catch because of the receiver's actions, not because he was being tackled (The leaning out of bounds toe tap comes to mind, or diving for a catch in general). I think it was a bad interpretation of the rule but his arm was not under the ball when he hit the ground.

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