2009 College Football: Week 1 Discussion - Page 15

Jas_lov · 09-07-2009, 10:52 PM

That was FSU who wasted all that time and then Miami called the TO. Horrible clock management by FSU, horrible pooch kick by Miami, great game though.

SirFozzie · 09-07-2009, 10:53 PM

That drop/uncatch is going to hurt that guy for years.

Great Game, instant classic.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-07-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Then wasting all that time only to call a time out.

Miami called the timeout, not FSU. However, that was some bad clock management that cost FSU at the end.

Galaxy · 09-07-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

That was FSU who wasted all that time and then Miami called the TO. Horrible clock management by FSU, horrible pooch kick by Miami, great game though.

Miami started to sub players after (or was late too get all of its players on the field) FSU did (hence why Miami called the TO).

larrymcg421 · 09-07-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

That drop/uncatch is going to hurt that guy for years.

Great Game, instant classic.

To be fair, it was a terrible throw by Ponder to a guy who was wide open.

Karlifornia · 09-07-2009, 10:55 PM

Yeah WTF was FSU doing letting 30+ seconds run off the clock? Too cocky, and it killed them.

kcchief19 · 09-07-2009, 10:55 PM

I know the officials like to run the clock and not put time back on the clock, but it sure looked like that pass was incomplete with 1 second left on the replay. Seems like FSU should have had another down with 1 second left on the clock.

miami_fan · 09-07-2009, 10:56 PM

Very proud of the Canes tonight. We still have some things to work on though.

tarcone · 09-07-2009, 10:57 PM

Great game

miami_fan · 09-07-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

I know the officials like to run the clock and not put time back on the clock, but it sure looked like that pass was incomplete with 1 second left on the replay. Seems like FSU should have had another down with 1 second left on the clock.

I thought more time ran off the clock when FSU called their last TO. The home clock operator slipped on that one.

Galaxy · 09-07-2009, 11:04 PM

All I can is that I'm so glad it's September. Football is back with hockey just around the corner.

sooner333 · 09-07-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

I know the officials like to run the clock and not put time back on the clock, but it sure looked like that pass was incomplete with 1 second left on the replay. Seems like FSU should have had another down with 1 second left on the clock.

Possible. I know that in basketball a violation doesn't occur until the whistle blows (so they guy could have taken five steps, but until the ref stops the play, the clock still rolls). I don't know how it works with football replay. But, it was apparent that the refs took a second or two to rule the incompletion (they had to see the ball on the turf).

larrymcg421 · 09-07-2009, 11:17 PM

It seems really stupid to have Bobby Bowden out there pretending to be a head coach just so he can rack up more wins for his total. Everyone can tell he's not "coaching" a damn thing.

tarcone · 09-07-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

It seems really stupid to have Bobby Bowden out there pretending to be a head coach just so he can rack up more wins for his total. Everyone can tell he's not "coaching" a damn thing.

At this point he wont catch JoePa. Maybe this is his ride into the sunset.

Galaxy · 09-07-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

At this point he wont catch JoePa. Maybe this is his ride into the sunset.

Yeap. If they take away those 14 wins, he will have a lot of ground to make up.

Noop · 09-07-2009, 11:34 PM

Very disappointed by this game. I am convince Florida State is cursed against Miami and until Bobby along with his defensive staff leave we will not be elite ever again. That defensive performance was down right disgracefully and Mickey Andrews should be ashamed considering he use to be one of the best in the business.

I take nothing away from Miami because they went up to Tallahassee and won the game. Harris is cool, calm and collected just the way I remember him when he played at Miami Northwestern. They made the plays they had to make and won.

I am not even angry or sad, I am just disappointed but not surprised because Florida State always finds a way to blow it against Miami.(As well as other good teams, Wake especially)

Great Game Canes. My phone is officially off because it has not stopped ringing or buzzing from the texts.

Lathum · 09-07-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Great Game Canes. My phone is officially off because it has not stopped ringing or buzzing from the texts.

are all your Buffalo honies blowin it up?

Noop · 09-07-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

are all your Buffalo honies blowin it up?

I don't understand this unnecessary swipe.

cyril · 09-07-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

I am convince Florida State is cursed against Miami .

ever since i witnessed the wide right and wide left, I do feel that FSU is cursed. Miami often seems to find a way to win vs the Noles (esp. when the Noles were ranked higher) and the way they won are always just by the edge and funky, though I have nothing to complain since I wear orange and green

but UM-FSU games have always been exciting and close, whether they were in top 10 or not.

SirFozzie · 09-07-2009, 11:51 PM

BTW, the ESPN Clock is UNOFFICIAL and not tied into the game clock etcetera, so claims that there should still have been a second left on the clock are.. misguided.

BishopMVP · 09-08-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I'm really impressed with Jacory so far.

I was really impressed with him last year and coming out of HS. Despite actually having decent measurables (speed, height, arm strength) I feel like he was underrated and just one of those QB's that wins ballgames. Having Mark Whipple as OC appeared to help immeasurably as well. That guy knows what he's doing.

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Ouch...his balls!

That was a hilarious injury. Get some better fitting pants.

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

I know the officials like to run the clock and not put time back on the clock, but it sure looked like that pass was incomplete with 1 second left on the replay. Seems like FSU should have had another down with 1 second left on the clock.

I don't think there should have 1 second left, but I think FSU should have run a faster ending play (basically a quick slant, but even that previous fade took 4 seconds) so they had 2 shots instead of 1. The announcers were idiots talking about 5 seconds meaing 1 play, and then once FSU rolled Ponder out they proved them right.

Great finish to Week 1. Next week doesn't have a ton of great matchups on paper, but enough to keep my attention. Clemson-GT to start on Thursday, 2 intriguing 3:30 matchups in rejuvenated teams ND-Michigan and a possible offensive showcase in Houston-OK St, and nightcaps of SC-Georgia and USC-Ohio St.

dawgfan · 09-08-2009, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Noop

My phone is officially off because it has not stopped ringing or buzzing from the texts.

Including some from your brother?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-08-2009, 07:54 AM

The CFN rankings are out after the first week of games. BYU and Mizzou have the biggest jumps.

Scout.com: CFN Rankings Of Every Team - Week 1

Logan · 09-08-2009, 08:45 AM

Not much to say about the shit effort Rutgers put up yesterday. To see the defense get completely dominated was a disgrace. I have no idea why we were playing so far off the LOS, leaving guys open for 7 yards in the middle of the field before even trying to cover. Same for why we tried matching their no-huddle offense, when that's not our style and our defense was getting pushed around. You really want to get a beaten D back out there quicker?

Nothing was thrown downfield on offense, it was all curls with the occassional crossing route by Tim Brown. And a talented couple of RBs with a good blocking line saw pretty much all their opportunities come out of the shotgun. Just a complete, complete disaster.

That being said, despite being hungover, tired, and just sick of college football after coming back from the stadium...I still stayed up and watched the end of the FSU-Miami game. It didn't take long for me to get over being sick of it.

Greg Reid was just ridiculous. I'm trying to think of a more impressive debut by a true defensive freshman.

I. J. Reilly · 09-08-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

It seems really stupid to have Bobby Bowden out there pretending to be a head coach just so he can rack up more wins for his total. Everyone can tell he's not "coaching" a damn thing.

I like the kid they have following him around at all times. From what I could tell his entire job is to keep Bobby from wandering out onto the field, I doubt that headset is even plug in.

But hey, if Jimbo Fisher is okay with all the work but no title then more power to him.

timmynausea · 09-08-2009, 10:08 AM

That was the most entertaining ACC game I've watched in a long time. I know the conference struggled over the first weekened pretty horribly, but maybe that FSU-Miami game is kind of a sign of the "dead QB" era in the ACC is ending. It seems like all of the ACC games over the past few years have been 13-10 type games with a lot of horrible execution on offense. The only decent QB I can think of in the last 3 or 4 years was Matt Ryan at BC, and truthfully, he didn't have much at WR.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-08-2009, 11:31 AM

New AP poll is out. Mizzou into the top 25. BYU with a big jump. OU falls 10 spots.

2009 NCAA College Football Polls and Rankings for Week 2 - ESPN

RomaGoth · 09-08-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by I. J. Reilly

I like the kid they have following him around at all times. From what I could tell his entire job is to keep Bobby from wandering out onto the field, I doubt that headset is even plug in.

This is comedy gold.

And the game was great, Cameron outcoached Fisher by a hair. Well played by both sides, and the QB's looked great. I am excited to see the U slowly rise back to the forefront.

Lathum · 09-08-2009, 11:38 AM

Glad to see Ohio state drop after that pitiful display. Also glad to see Cincinnati, they played great yesterday and deserved it.

How on earth does Oregeon still get 47 votes?

Dr. Sak · 09-08-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Glad to see Ohio state drop after that pitiful display.

I am not an Ohio State fan by any means, but I still think they are the team to beat in the Big Ten. The Buckeye team you saw last Saturday will be totally different than the one you see this Saturday. They didn't want to show anything, plus defending Navy's unorthodox offense isn't simple, especially when the Midshipmen had all spring/summer to gameplan.

Typically the Buckeyes start out slow. Now i must go vomit for defending them

Tigercat · 09-08-2009, 12:02 PM

LSU should have dropped in the polls after that anemic performance against Washington, but I guess the game was so late that many missed it. Tigers have a chance to prove they are a top 10 team with an improved performance against Vandy this weekend.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-08-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I am not an Ohio State fan by any means, but I still think they are the team to beat in the Big Ten. The Buckeye team you saw last Saturday will be totally different than the one you see this Saturday. They didn't want to show anything, plus defending Navy's unorthodox offense isn't simple, especially when the Midshipmen had all spring/summer to gameplan.

Typically the Buckeyes start out slow. Now i must go vomit for defending them

Wow, I guess I can look forward to your passionate defense of Sidney Crosby and the Penguins in the NHL thread. Awesome!

MacroGuru · 09-08-2009, 01:03 PM

Wow, I am shocked of the big jump for BYU...

I didn't expect it...I was thinking if we could win Tulane and FSU we would get to where we are now in the AP.

Not complaining...but hate having that bullseye on our back for the rest of the season.

Dr. Sak · 09-08-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Wow, I guess I can look forward to your passionate defense of Sidney Crosby and the Penguins in the NHL thread. Awesome!

I won't do it again.

Arles · 09-08-2009, 03:05 PM

Just wanted to echo what a great game the Miami-FSU game was. It's nice to see both schools (especially the U) back in relevance!

BishopMVP · 09-08-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Wow, I am shocked of the big jump for BYU...

I didn't expect it...I was thinking if we could win Tulane and FSU we would get to where we are now in the AP.

Not complaining...but hate having that bullseye on our back for the rest of the season.

Wouldn't BYU have that bullseye on them as long as they were undefeated? It's a great thing for them that now they can win out and be assured of a BCS bowl, and might even have an outside chance with 1 loss. (Or, assuming perfect disaster strikes, a very outside shot at the title game now.)

MizzouRah · 09-08-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

Just wanted to echo what a great game the Miami-FSU game was. It's nice to see both schools (especially the U) back in relevance!

No it wasn't.

dawgfan · 09-08-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

LSU should have dropped in the polls after that anemic performance against Washington, but I guess the game was so late that many missed it. Tigers have a chance to prove they are a top 10 team with an improved performance against Vandy this weekend.

I'm looking forward to the UW proving over the course of the season that LSU's effort against them wasn't anemic...

Tigercat · 09-08-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

I'm looking forward to the UW proving over the course of the season that LSU's effort against them wasn't anemic...

I think UW right now looks like ~.500 team, with the possibility of being a little bit better or worse. But LSU should look much better against a .500 team than that, based on the talent levels. Too many mis-tackles, poor blocking on offense, ect ect.

dawgfan · 09-08-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

I think UW right now looks like ~.500 team, with the possibility of being a little bit better or worse. But LSU should look much better against a .500 team than that, based on the talent levels. Too many mis-tackles, poor blocking on offense, ect ect.

Yeah, probably true. I think there's no question LSU got UW's best effort. As much as you guys were disappointed with last years' 8-5, I don't think LSU's motivation level could've been as high as the UW's, and that, plus the home atmosphere help explain the closeness of the game.

MacroGuru · 09-08-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Wouldn't BYU have that bullseye on them as long as they were undefeated? It's a great thing for them that now they can win out and be assured of a BCS bowl, and might even have an outside chance with 1 loss. (Or, assuming perfect disaster strikes, a very outside shot at the title game now.)

Yeah, but with the MWC when the top 3 play the other teams it is basically their bowl game and then you add in the rankings and it turns into a tougher game than it usually is.

But they can win out, with FSU, Utah and TCU all at home it helps a lot.

Galaxy · 09-08-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Yeah, but with the MWC when the top 3 play the other teams it is basically their bowl game and then you add in the rankings and it turns into a tougher game than it usually is.

But they can win out, with FSU, Utah and TCU all at home it helps a lot.

I wonder what would happen if BYU and Boise State both won out.

dawgfan · 09-09-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I wonder what would happen if BYU and Boise State both won out.

BYU would probably be in the BCS title game, but I have my doubts BSU would - I don't think their SOS will be good enough to boost them past a BCS conference 1-loss team, especially if it's a traditional power like Florida or USC.

ISiddiqui · 09-09-2009, 08:54 AM

Yeah, I'd think BYU would have the edge. Especially since they took down Oklahoma while Boise took down Oregon.

RomaGoth · 09-09-2009, 09:19 AM

BYU vs. BSU would be excellent. Too bad college football is so fucked up that it won't happen.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-09-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

BYU vs. BSU would be excellent. Too bad college football is so fucked up that it won't happen.

Jut the opposite. A title game like that would confirm that college football is all fucked up. I'm all for letting the smaller conference schools into the picture via a playoff, but determining that those two teams were #1 and #2 would be a disaster for college football. The only good part would be that it would likely mean the end of the BCS.

Dr. Sak · 09-09-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Yeah, I'd think BYU would have the edge. Especially since they took down Oklahoma while Boise took down Oregon.

Plus BYU still has Florida State to play and plays in the Mountain West Conference with quality teams like TCU and Utah. Looking at the remaining schedule for Boise State their best team remaining is...Nevada? Fresno State? I would say BYU has a huge edge here, plus I'm guessing that Oregon win isn't going to look so good at the end of the season.

RomaGoth · 09-09-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Jut the opposite. A title game like that would confirm that college football is all fucked up. I'm all for letting the smaller conference schools into the picture via a playoff, but determining that those two teams were #1 and #2 would be a disaster for college football. The only good part would be that it would likely mean the end of the BCS.

Two things:

1) I never said these two teams were/are #1 and #2
2) College football is fucked up because of many reasons, including the greed of the big conferences and the good 'ol boys in power. I completely understand why this is so, and have no real problems with it except that I think programs like BSU, TCU, BYU, and others should have a chance at proving themselves against other top programs. On the other hand, the BCS is a complete joke.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-09-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Two things:

1) I never said these two teams were/are #1 and #2
2) College football is fucked up because of many reasons, including the greed of the big conferences and the good 'ol boys in power. I completely understand why this is so, and have no real problems with it except that I think programs like BSU, TCU, BYU, and others should have a chance at proving themselves against other top programs. On the other hand, the BCS is a complete joke.

I agree. They should have a playoff of some sort to give those teams a shot to prove they deserve it.

dawgfan · 09-09-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

I completely understand why this is so, and have no real problems with it except that I think programs like BSU, TCU, BYU, and others should have a chance at proving themselves against other top programs.

They do - it's called "out of conference scheduling". Credit to BYU for scheduling Oklahoma, and as a result of that decision, they are now in the hunt for a BCS title game spot.

Credit to Boise as well for scheduling Oregon, but that's not quite as impressive as Oklahoma, and given they are in the WAC, they could use as many impressive OOC opponents as they can get.

Strength of schedule matters.

09-07-2009, 10:53 PM	#702
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09-07-2009, 10:55 PM	#706
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Yeah WTF was FSU doing letting 30+ seconds run off the clock? Too cocky, and it killed them. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

09-07-2009, 10:56 PM	#708
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Very proud of the Canes tonight. We still have some things to work on though. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

09-07-2009, 11:17 PM	#713
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09-07-2009, 11:34 PM	#716
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Very disappointed by this game. I am convince Florida State is cursed against Miami and until Bobby along with his defensive staff leave we will not be elite ever again. That defensive performance was down right disgracefully and Mickey Andrews should be ashamed considering he use to be one of the best in the business. I take nothing away from Miami because they went up to Tallahassee and won the game. Harris is cool, calm and collected just the way I remember him when he played at Miami Northwestern. They made the plays they had to make and won. I am not even angry or sad, I am just disappointed but not surprised because Florida State always finds a way to blow it against Miami.(As well as other good teams, Wake especially) Great Game Canes. My phone is officially off because it has not stopped ringing or buzzing from the texts. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

09-07-2009, 10:52 PM	#701
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	That was FSU who wasted all that time and then Miami called the TO. Horrible clock management by FSU, horrible pooch kick by Miami, great game though.

09-07-2009, 10:55 PM	#707
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	I know the officials like to run the clock and not put time back on the clock, but it sure looked like that pass was incomplete with 1 second left on the replay. Seems like FSU should have had another down with 1 second left on the clock.

09-07-2009, 10:57 PM	#709
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Great game

09-07-2009, 11:04 PM	#711
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09-07-2009, 11:51 PM	#720
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09-08-2009, 07:54 AM	#723
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	The CFN rankings are out after the first week of games. BYU and Mizzou have the biggest jumps. Scout.com: CFN Rankings Of Every Team - Week 1

09-08-2009, 08:45 AM	#724
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Not much to say about the shit effort Rutgers put up yesterday. To see the defense get completely dominated was a disgrace. I have no idea why we were playing so far off the LOS, leaving guys open for 7 yards in the middle of the field before even trying to cover. Same for why we tried matching their no-huddle offense, when that's not our style and our defense was getting pushed around. You really want to get a beaten D back out there quicker? Nothing was thrown downfield on offense, it was all curls with the occassional crossing route by Tim Brown. And a talented couple of RBs with a good blocking line saw pretty much all their opportunities come out of the shotgun. Just a complete, complete disaster. That being said, despite being hungover, tired, and just sick of college football after coming back from the stadium...I still stayed up and watched the end of the FSU-Miami game. It didn't take long for me to get over being sick of it. Greg Reid was just ridiculous. I'm trying to think of a more impressive debut by a true defensive freshman.

09-08-2009, 10:08 AM	#726
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	That was the most entertaining ACC game I've watched in a long time. I know the conference struggled over the first weekened pretty horribly, but maybe that FSU-Miami game is kind of a sign of the "dead QB" era in the ACC is ending. It seems like all of the ACC games over the past few years have been 13-10 type games with a lot of horrible execution on offense. The only decent QB I can think of in the last 3 or 4 years was Matt Ryan at BC, and truthfully, he didn't have much at WR.

09-08-2009, 11:31 AM	#727
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	New AP poll is out. Mizzou into the top 25. BYU with a big jump. OU falls 10 spots. 2009 NCAA College Football Polls and Rankings for Week 2 - ESPN

09-08-2009, 11:38 AM	#729
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Glad to see Ohio state drop after that pitiful display. Also glad to see Cincinnati, they played great yesterday and deserved it. How on earth does Oregeon still get 47 votes?

09-08-2009, 12:02 PM	#731
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	LSU should have dropped in the polls after that anemic performance against Washington, but I guess the game was so late that many missed it. Tigers have a chance to prove they are a top 10 team with an improved performance against Vandy this weekend.

09-08-2009, 01:03 PM	#733
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	Wow, I am shocked of the big jump for BYU... I didn't expect it...I was thinking if we could win Tulane and FSU we would get to where we are now in the AP. Not complaining...but hate having that bullseye on our back for the rest of the season. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

09-08-2009, 03:05 PM	#735
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09-09-2009, 08:54 AM	#744
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Yeah, I'd think BYU would have the edge. Especially since they took down Oklahoma while Boise took down Oregon. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

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