2009 MLB Playoff Thread - Page 14

Eaglesfan27 · 11-02-2009, 07:17 PM

Utley is the man!

spleen1015 · 11-02-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Utley is the man!

If the Phillies can manage to win the Series, Utley is the new Mr. October. That's 4 for him in the Series, right?

Eaglesfan27 · 11-02-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

If the Phillies can manage to win the Series, Utley is the new Mr. October. That's 4 for him in the Series, right?

Yes. 3 off of Sabathia.

EagleFan · 11-02-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I'm thinking that the whole "A-Rod isn't a 'true' Yankee" crowd is ready to hang themselves... or have conveniently forgotten they ever said that.

He's had three hits in the WS so far, 2 doubles and a single.

Mr. Sparkle · 11-02-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

He's had three hits in the WS so far, 2 doubles and a single.

He had a two run HR in game 3 to bring them within 1, the go ahead double last night, and the RBI single in the first today. Not exactly three inconsequential hits.

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2009, 08:23 PM

Lets also not forget the rest of this postseason...

EagleFan · 11-02-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle

He had a two run HR in game 3 to bring them within 1, the go ahead double last night, and the RBI single in the first today. Not exactly three inconsequential hits.

Like I said, 2 doubles and a single.

JPhillips · 11-02-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I'm thinking that the whole "A-Rod isn't a 'true' Yankee" crowd is ready to hang themselves... or have conveniently forgotten they ever said that.

Lou Gehrig would have saved a dying orphan as he rounded the bases.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-02-2009, 09:33 PM

Utley! Utley! Utley!

Mr. Sparkle · 11-02-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Like I said, 2 doubles and a single.

LOL if you really think that wasn't a HR.

Karlifornia · 11-02-2009, 09:50 PM

For some reason I find myself pulling for the Yankees.

Mr. Sparkle · 11-02-2009, 09:51 PM

RAAAAAAAAUUUUUUULLLLLL....oh wait.

EagleFan · 11-02-2009, 10:24 PM

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LOL if you really think that wasn't a HR.

It shouldn't have been. It was coming straight down and woul have hit the wall for a double. No different than a fan reaching over, unless is some bastard kid at a Yankees game and in that case it's a homerun.

RedKingGold · 11-02-2009, 10:26 PM

Survive and advance. That's all that matters. At least one more game and one more day.

Back to New York we go!

Mr. Sparkle · 11-02-2009, 10:27 PM

The ball was coming down, yes. That's what balls do when they're hit in the air and travel long distances. Are you Tim McCarver? The only thing preventing it from going over the wall was the camera.

Dekanth · 11-02-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

It shouldn't have been. It was coming straight down and woul have hit the wall for a double. No different than a fan reaching over, unless is some bastard kid at a Yankees game and in that case it's a homerun.

I know you are a Philly fan, but don't be silly, it was a house rule before the game even started.

"It looked like the camera was out over the fence," Phillies manager Charlie Manuel said. "The umpire told me that before the game that they talked about that, and if it hit the camera that it was going to be a home run."

RedKingGold · 11-02-2009, 10:43 PM

It doesn't matter. Cole should have never thrown that pitch, nor the breaking ball he threw to Pettite.

That loss and turning point of the Series is on Cole's head/shoulders; not on some right-field camera.

bhlloy · 11-03-2009, 09:18 AM

Is Hamels done in Philly? Not the most forgiving fans and he seems to have completely lost the respect of his teammates:

hxxp://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Aqcz2U0apVhtERPGQSLjkfI5nYcB?slug=ti-hamelsmyers110209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Myers is a douche for saying that after such a huge win, but he's kind of right. Just an absolutely bizarre statement from a guy who needs to be ready for a game 7 if there is one.

spleen1015 · 11-03-2009, 10:28 AM

Brett Myers is the wife beater, right?

cuervo72 · 11-03-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Is Hamels done in Philly? Not the most forgiving fans and he seems to have completely lost the respect of his teammates:

hxxp://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Aqcz2U0apVhtERPGQSLjkfI5nYcB?slug=ti-hamelsmyers110209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Myers is a douche for saying that after such a huge win, but he's kind of right. Just an absolutely bizarre statement from a guy who needs to be ready for a game 7 if there is one.

Czaban had Dibble on this morning and asked him what Manuel should do with Hamels. "If I was Manuel I'd keep him in the dugout sitting next to me for the next two games" was pretty much the reply. Shelve him, see if you can get him straightened out for next season, if he hasn't completely lost the respect of his teammates.

miked · 11-03-2009, 11:32 AM

I don't get it, he's obviously bummed about not pitching well this season and postseason and hopes it all ends soon to get a fresh start on next season. He's obviously still trying and pitching, but I can't imagine the mental exhaustion of a 6 month season of people telling you how much you suck (during a down year that is better than most pitchers' up years). Brett Myers needs a slap.

SackAttack · 11-03-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by miked

I don't get it, he's obviously bummed about not pitching well this season and postseason and hopes it all ends soon to get a fresh start on next season. He's obviously still trying and pitching, but I can't imagine the mental exhaustion of a 6 month season of people telling you how much you suck (during a down year that is better than most pitchers' up years). Brett Myers needs a slap.

Mental exhaustion from struggles + season nearly over + newborn baby at home = maybe a dumbass thing to SAY, but I'm not surprised at all that it's how he FEELS.

bhlloy · 11-03-2009, 12:17 PM

Your game 7 starter says that "he can't wait for the season to be over" after losing game 3 at home and putting you in a 2-1 hole? I'm sure he doesn't mean that he's quitting and it's a throwaway remark but you can see why it's got people riled up. "I'm bummed about losing this game but I'll be supporting my teammates for the rest of the series and I'll be ready to redeem myself if called upon" is a bit of a better message to send.

No argument Myers is an ass though and needs a slap.

Crapshoot · 11-03-2009, 12:54 PM

Seriously - people whining about Hamels can have douchebags like Brett Myers (who apparently tried to pick a fight with Hamels), instead of one of the best young starters in baseballs. This is why baseball players need to watch Bull Durham - don't ever be honest with the media.

Dr. Sak · 11-03-2009, 12:57 PM

Myers, witness: No confrontation | The Phillies Zone | 11/03/2009

RedKingGold · 11-03-2009, 01:04 PM

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Myers, witness: No confrontation | The Phillies Zone | 11/03/2009

Yeah, I actually do kind of wonder if this is NY-fueled rumor-mongering. Pretty much a non-issue between Hamels/Myers.

RedKingGold · 11-03-2009, 01:06 PM

I still love Hamels and Lidge and every member of that 2008 squad for what they did. That should never be forgotten and most reasonable sports fans in the city feel that way as well.

That being said, I do think Hamels needs to be shelved for the rest of the playoffs because he has lost confidence. That doesn't mean I want him gone or don't thing he can be a key cog for the future. Kid is only 24 or 25 years old and he still has nasty stuff. In fact, off-season priority numero uno for the team is to get Hamels right, whatever it takes.

Newsflash guys. There are idiot fans in every sports town who turn on guys at the drop of a hat. Just because they're vocal shouldn't mean they speak for an entire fan base.

RedKingGold · 11-03-2009, 01:08 PM

Oh, and I definitely love those "Phillies are stealing signs" stuff that is coming out now.

Please tell me that story wasn't/isn't preplanned by the media. Gag.

Dr. Sak · 11-03-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I still love Hamels and Lidge and every member of that 2008 squad for what they did. That should never be forgotten and most reasonable sports fans in the city feel that way as well.

I was talking about this very fact with my dad last night. No matter how much Hamels is struggling, or Howard, or Feliz...they were a huge part of the success last year. Hamels had a great 2008 Post season, Feliz had the game winning hit in the Series clincher, Howard has been clutch so many times through out the year. Lidge was 48 for 48.

I am disappointed but I will not give up on them. They could've easily folded up their tents last night and just went through the motions, but like other times this year when their back was against the wall, they played a great game.

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Oh, and I definitely love those "Phillies are stealing signs" stuff that is coming out now.

Please tell me that story wasn't/isn't preplanned by the media. Gag.

I love Bowa for his tenure here as a player and coach, but he seems to have a lot of sour grapes.

ISiddiqui · 11-03-2009, 04:58 PM

Put me in the camp that thinks the Hamels thing is WAAAY overblown. The guy was frustrated. He's had a subpar season and got shelled in Game 3. That doesn't mean he's given up.

Logan · 11-03-2009, 05:02 PM

I feel the same.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-03-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I was talking about this very fact with my dad last night. No matter how much Hamels is struggling, or Howard, or Feliz...they were a huge part of the success last year. Hamels had a great 2008 Post season, Feliz had the game winning hit in the Series clincher, Howard has been clutch so many times through out the year. Lidge was 48 for 48.

I am disappointed but I will not give up on them. They could've easily folded up their tents last night and just went through the motions, but like other times this year when their back was against the wall, they played a great game.

I love Bowa for his tenure here as a player and coach, but he seems to have a lot of sour grapes.

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Put me in the camp that thinks the Hamels thing is WAAAY overblown. The guy was frustrated. He's had a subpar season and got shelled in Game 3. That doesn't mean he's given up.

I'm with both of you. I still completely support Hamels and am hoping he'll get straightened out in the off-season.

Crapshoot · 11-03-2009, 11:42 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

A good article. Pedro Martinez, on form, is the greatest pitcher of my lifetime (and probably everyone else here); his 1999 and 2000 may both be the best pitching seasons in baseball history. I remember arguing with some old farts at the OOTP boards about this, but Pedro was a better version of the pitcher they always imagined Sandy Koufax to be.

Anyway, I say - go Phillies!

JS19 · 11-04-2009, 06:49 PM

I swear, there must be some kind of bet going on between these fucktards that sing the national anthem.... who can sing it the worst!

RedKingGold · 11-04-2009, 07:28 PM

Pedro's topping out his fastball in the low eighties in the 1st inning. This will not end well.

Logan · 11-04-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Pedro's topping out his fastball in the low eighties in the 1st inning. This will not end well.

McCarver: "You can't raise your fastball speed once the game starts."

Pedro: (Throws 88mph fastball in the 2nd)

SackAttack · 11-04-2009, 08:09 PM

Godzilla is eating Pedro's lunch tonight.

SackAttack · 11-04-2009, 08:24 PM

I imagine it's got to be a pretty short list, but how many players have won a World Series title with both the Yankees and the Red Sox?

You've got Babe Ruth, Carl Mays and Sam Jones, all of whom were on the 1918 team and won at least one ring with the Yankees of the 1920s.

Johnny Damon is currently in position to join them.

I can't find any players from 2004/2007 who won a Series with the Yankees, so it seems like it's just those four guys.

Am I missing anyone?

Jas_lov · 11-04-2009, 08:28 PM

I think Eric Hinske was on the 07 Red Sox.

SackAttack · 11-04-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I think Eric Hinske was on the 07 Red Sox.

Was he on the postseason roster for either the '07 Sox or the '09 Yanks?

spleen1015 · 11-04-2009, 09:00 PM

Hinske is credited with winning 3 WS in a row with 3 different teams, I believe.

spleen1015 · 11-04-2009, 09:02 PM

Scratch that, he appeared in 3 straight with different teams.

He's had a PA in all of them.

Jas_lov · 11-04-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Was he on the postseason roster for either the '07 Sox or the '09 Yanks?

He was for the 07 Sox. Hinske PH in game 5 of the WS this year for the Yankees. I think he was on the ALDS and WS roster, but not the ALCS.

SackAttack · 11-04-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

He was for the 07 Sox. Hinske PH in game 5 of the WS this year for the Yankees. I think he was on the ALDS and WS roster, but not the ALCS.

Long as he was on the WS roster for both teams, that qualifies as far as I'm concerned.

Young Drachma · 11-04-2009, 10:54 PM

They don't look happy. They look relieved they pulled it off.

RomaGoth · 11-04-2009, 10:59 PM

Jimmy Rollins, how does my ass taste? - Yankees

Crapshoot · 11-04-2009, 11:21 PM

RomaGoth, go jump on another fucking bandwagon.

ISiddiqui · 11-05-2009, 12:28 AM

That actually was pretty amusing by RomaGoth though

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Chief Rum · 11-05-2009, 12:48 AM

Congrats to the Yankees and their fans. Except RomaGoth, he should be a Tigers fan, not an elitist Yankees fan.

But to the rest of you deserving New Yorkers congrats.

CraigSca · 11-05-2009, 06:25 AM

Finally, an underdog the entire country can rally around!

11-02-2009, 07:17 PM	#651
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ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Lets also not forget the rest of this postseason... __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-02-2009, 09:33 PM	#659
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RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Survive and advance. That's all that matters. At least one more game and one more day. Back to New York we go! Last edited by RedKingGold : 11-02-2009 at 10:26 PM.

11-02-2009, 10:27 PM	#665
Mr. Sparkle High School JV Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Francisco	The ball was coming down, yes. That's what balls do when they're hit in the air and travel long distances. Are you Tim McCarver? The only thing preventing it from going over the wall was the camera. __________________ I hope life isn't a joke, because I don't get it

11-02-2009, 10:43 PM	#667
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	It doesn't matter. Cole should have never thrown that pitch, nor the breaking ball he threw to Pettite. That loss and turning point of the Series is on Cole's head/shoulders; not on some right-field camera.

11-03-2009, 09:18 AM	#668
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Is Hamels done in Philly? Not the most forgiving fans and he seems to have completely lost the respect of his teammates: hxxp://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Aqcz2U0apVhtERPGQSLjkfI5nYcB?slug=ti-hamelsmyers110209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns Myers is a douche for saying that after such a huge win, but he's kind of right. Just an absolutely bizarre statement from a guy who needs to be ready for a game 7 if there is one.

11-03-2009, 10:28 AM	#669
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Brett Myers is the wife beater, right? __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

11-03-2009, 11:32 AM	#671
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	I don't get it, he's obviously bummed about not pitching well this season and postseason and hopes it all ends soon to get a fresh start on next season. He's obviously still trying and pitching, but I can't imagine the mental exhaustion of a 6 month season of people telling you how much you suck (during a down year that is better than most pitchers' up years). Brett Myers needs a slap. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

11-03-2009, 12:17 PM	#673
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Your game 7 starter says that "he can't wait for the season to be over" after losing game 3 at home and putting you in a 2-1 hole? I'm sure he doesn't mean that he's quitting and it's a throwaway remark but you can see why it's got people riled up. "I'm bummed about losing this game but I'll be supporting my teammates for the rest of the series and I'll be ready to redeem myself if called upon" is a bit of a better message to send. No argument Myers is an ass though and needs a slap.

11-03-2009, 12:54 PM	#674
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Seriously - people whining about Hamels can have douchebags like Brett Myers (who apparently tried to pick a fight with Hamels), instead of one of the best young starters in baseballs. This is why baseball players need to watch Bull Durham - don't ever be honest with the media.

11-03-2009, 12:57 PM	#675
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Myers, witness: No confrontation \| The Phillies Zone \| 11/03/2009

11-03-2009, 01:06 PM	#677
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	I still love Hamels and Lidge and every member of that 2008 squad for what they did. That should never be forgotten and most reasonable sports fans in the city feel that way as well. That being said, I do think Hamels needs to be shelved for the rest of the playoffs because he has lost confidence. That doesn't mean I want him gone or don't thing he can be a key cog for the future. Kid is only 24 or 25 years old and he still has nasty stuff. In fact, off-season priority numero uno for the team is to get Hamels right, whatever it takes. Newsflash guys. There are idiot fans in every sports town who turn on guys at the drop of a hat. Just because they're vocal shouldn't mean they speak for an entire fan base. Last edited by RedKingGold : 11-03-2009 at 01:07 PM.

11-03-2009, 01:08 PM	#678
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Oh, and I definitely love those "Phillies are stealing signs" stuff that is coming out now. Please tell me that story wasn't/isn't preplanned by the media. Gag.

11-03-2009, 04:58 PM	#680
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Put me in the camp that thinks the Hamels thing is WAAAY overblown. The guy was frustrated. He's had a subpar season and got shelled in Game 3. That doesn't mean he's given up. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-03-2009, 05:02 PM	#681
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I feel the same.

11-03-2009, 11:42 PM	#683
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns A good article. Pedro Martinez, on form, is the greatest pitcher of my lifetime (and probably everyone else here); his 1999 and 2000 may both be the best pitching seasons in baseball history. I remember arguing with some old farts at the OOTP boards about this, but Pedro was a better version of the pitcher they always imagined Sandy Koufax to be. Anyway, I say - go Phillies!

11-04-2009, 06:49 PM	#684
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	I swear, there must be some kind of bet going on between these fucktards that sing the national anthem.... who can sing it the worst!

11-04-2009, 07:28 PM	#685
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Pedro's topping out his fastball in the low eighties in the 1st inning. This will not end well. Last edited by RedKingGold : 11-04-2009 at 07:30 PM.

11-04-2009, 08:09 PM	#687
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Godzilla is eating Pedro's lunch tonight.

11-04-2009, 08:24 PM	#688
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	I imagine it's got to be a pretty short list, but how many players have won a World Series title with both the Yankees and the Red Sox? You've got Babe Ruth, Carl Mays and Sam Jones, all of whom were on the 1918 team and won at least one ring with the Yankees of the 1920s. Johnny Damon is currently in position to join them. I can't find any players from 2004/2007 who won a Series with the Yankees, so it seems like it's just those four guys. Am I missing anyone?

11-04-2009, 08:28 PM	#689
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I think Eric Hinske was on the 07 Red Sox.

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spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Hinske is credited with winning 3 WS in a row with 3 different teams, I believe. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

11-04-2009, 09:02 PM	#692
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Scratch that, he appeared in 3 straight with different teams. He's had a PA in all of them. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

11-04-2009, 10:54 PM	#695
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11-05-2009, 12:48 AM	#699
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