NFL WEEK 1 - Page 14

DaddyTorgo · 09-14-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

If the Pats had recovered that fumble by Jackson on the last play, I lose my fantasy game. Wondering how that's recorded in the stats.

damn - that's close

spleen1015 · 09-14-2009, 09:16 PM

You guys like Gruden on MNF? Not too bad, IMO. He's a lot better then many of the guys they've had for a long time.

muns · 09-14-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Rigged.

They just wanted to give ESPN Boston a good story.

HAAAAAAAAAAA classic there!!!!!! lol

wade moore · 09-14-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Except here, there was nobody giving him a hard time.

i said i was wrong, move on.

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

awww...no way. i kinda pride myself on not being a jackass fan. i'm sorry if it came out that way - i totally didn't intend it that way wade.

One of the unfortunate things about the internets - it's pretty easy to misinterpret things at times because of the limited methods of conveying your expressions.

Anyway - my apologies, saw something that wasn't there.

Abe Sargent · 09-14-2009, 09:17 PM

Well, we know who is getting the Norwood Award of the Year for the Bills.

miami_fan · 09-14-2009, 09:17 PM

Good thing Dick Jauron is such a nice guy. If this were another head coach, he would not be on the flight to Buffalo.

EDIT: "he" being the kick returner.

DaddyTorgo · 09-14-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

You guys like Gruden on MNF? Not too bad, IMO. He's a lot better then many of the guys they've had for a long time.

yes. i do. i like the perspective a coach brings to decisions and stuff. wish they'd let him talk more even

wade moore · 09-14-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

You guys like Gruden on MNF? Not too bad, IMO. He's a lot better then many of the guys they've had for a long time.

I was just about to post about this as well.

I feel like he was quite good - especially for his first regular season game. Nice to see them get back to real football coverage - even though I like TK as a general rule.

On that note..

MIKE AND MIKE?!

oof.

DaddyTorgo · 09-14-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

i said i was wrong, move on.

One of the unfortunate things about the internets - it's pretty easy to misinterpret things at times because of the limited methods of conveying your expressions.

Anyway - my apologies, saw something that wasn't there.

cool - let's bury this now and settle in to watch raiders vs. chargers eh? that should be a smiley-game

Karlifornia · 09-14-2009, 09:19 PM

Oh, God. Not Mike & Mike.

muns · 09-14-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

You guys like Gruden on MNF? Not too bad, IMO. He's a lot better then many of the guys they've had for a long time.

I really liked him too. Glad he is around. I dont cringe when he speaks, and he provided some insight that was fun IMO

RainMaker · 09-14-2009, 09:19 PM

Does anyone know how that last play is treated stats wise? I'm in a tie right now but have Fred Jackson. He lateraled and it hit the ground and then was recovered by someone on the team which signals a dead ball on 4th down.

-Is there a chance that gets called a lost fumble?

-Is there a chance he gets any yards for that?

Karlifornia · 09-14-2009, 09:20 PM

Lot of NFL teams wearing whites at home this week.

larrymcg421 · 09-14-2009, 09:20 PM

I mostly feel bad for Trent Edwards, who played a terrific game. He deserved a chance to run the clock down. He didn't get it.

spleen1015 · 09-14-2009, 09:20 PM

I can't stand watching football with a baseball field on the field.

/puke.

MikeVic · 09-14-2009, 09:20 PM

Is this gonna be the Pats' thing this year? Heart-breaking loses to demoralize opponents?

wade moore · 09-14-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Does anyone know how that last play is treated stats wise? I'm in a tie right now but have Fred Jackson. He lateraled and it hit the ground and then was recovered by someone on the team which signals a dead ball on 4th down.

-Is there a chance that gets called a lost fumble?

-Is there a chance he gets any yards for that?

It was a fumble by Jackson, so yeah - it should be recorded as a fumble

. His was not a lateral, that was a fumble imo.

As for yards - I wonder the same thing. I have the TE that caught the initial pass.

spleen1015 · 09-14-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I mostly feel bad for Trent Edwards, who played a terrific game. He deserved a chance to run the clock down. He didn't get it.

The defense played a damn good game too.

Big Fo · 09-14-2009, 09:21 PM

Epic chokejob by the Bills, at least it happened to another division rival so there's not as much aggravation.

Always love the Charger throwback uniforms.

I hate baseball dirt on the football field, I'm glad the Marlins are finally getting their own place in a few years.

DaddyTorgo · 09-14-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Does anyone know how that last play is treated stats wise? I'm in a tie right now but have Fred Jackson. He lateraled and it hit the ground and then was recovered by someone on the team which signals a dead ball on 4th down.

-Is there a chance that gets called a lost fumble?

-Is there a chance he gets any yards for that?

it should be called a lost fumble. whether it's officially scored that since it didn't result in anything but a couple more yards is anybody's guess

wade moore · 09-14-2009, 09:21 PM

They don't even have the audio levels right on these clowns.

awesome.

bhlloy · 09-14-2009, 09:22 PM

Gruden is great. Somebody who knows a lot about football in the commentary booth, what a revolutionary concept.

panerd · 09-14-2009, 09:22 PM

Not sure if Steve Young has ever done a game or not but he sounds like he is going to be really bad tonight.

larrymcg421 · 09-14-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Does anyone know how that last play is treated stats wise? I'm in a tie right now but have Fred Jackson. He lateraled and it hit the ground and then was recovered by someone on the team which signals a dead ball on 4th down.

-Is there a chance that gets called a lost fumble?

-Is there a chance he gets any yards for that?

Well, it's a fumble, but it's not a lost fumble since New England didn't recover. As for the yards, I don't think so.

Vince, Pt. II · 09-14-2009, 09:23 PM

My roommate is a Bills fan. I'm scared for the breakable things in my house right now. Even before the Bills scored their touchdown, he was saying "This is setting up just like the Dallas Monday Night game. I don't even want to watch."

DaddyTorgo · 09-14-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

The defense played a damn good game too.

hell of a game by the bills defense - their offense was real good too.

imho the bills offense was better than their defense...the defense started to struggle a bit when brady started to get his feet back under him in the 2nd half

pats didn't have much of an answer to the bills' offense - if the bills hadn't stopped themselves it woulda been long over

wade moore · 09-14-2009, 09:24 PM

Man - didn't realize that OAK was starting both rookie WRs...

Warhammer · 09-14-2009, 09:24 PM

Here's hoping Dick Jauron channels Denny Green in the press conference.

larrymcg421 · 09-14-2009, 09:24 PM

Prediction: Darrius Heyward-Bey will catch three 80 yard TD passes, and Al Davis will bend over and moon everybody.

DaddyTorgo · 09-14-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Well, it's a fumble, but it's not a lost fumble since New England didn't recover. As for the yards, I don't think so.

but as they were pointing out, it's 4th down, so if the fumble is recovered by the person who didn't fumble it it's a lost fumble

wade moore · 09-14-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Prediction: Darrius Heyward-Bey will catch three 80 yard TD passes, and Al Davis will bend over and moon everybody.

As much as I'd pay to see that, with the balls sailing through the scky so far I'm thinking no..

RainMaker · 09-14-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Well, it's a fumble, but it's not a lost fumble since New England didn't recover. As for the yards, I don't think so.

Well with the 4th down rules of a ball hitting the ground and being recovered by someone other than the ballhandler ending in a dead ball I wasn't sure.

I also thought that on laterals, a player gets yardage for the amount of yards they run. Jackson got 9 yards on the lateral which if counted toward receiving yards, ends up in me winning by 1.

Logan · 09-14-2009, 09:25 PM

I think during that kickoff return, Greenie forgot he was supposed to do play by play.

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Originally Posted by wade moore

It was a fumble by Jackson, so yeah - it should be recorded as a fumble

. His was not a lateral, that was a fumble imo.

It wasn't a lost fumble though.

RainMaker · 09-14-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

but as they were pointing out, it's 4th down, so if the fumble is recovered by the person who didn't fumble it it's a lost fumble

Is it treated as a lost fumble or just a dead ball?

RedKingGold · 09-14-2009, 09:27 PM

Am I really going to have to listen to Greenberg's nasalness for three hours?

Mute button engaged!

spleen1015 · 09-14-2009, 09:27 PM

Greenie calling football is not manly enough for me. Damn.

Karlifornia · 09-14-2009, 09:28 PM

Nice pick by Jammer...I know Golic said bad throw, but the staredown was the bad part of that play by Russell

muns · 09-14-2009, 09:28 PM

ill take that pick fantasy wise for the chargers

PilotMan · 09-14-2009, 09:28 PM

Is it just me or is Greenie terrible. I mean Golic is on his mark, but Greenberg looks very green as a play by play man. Lots of dead air.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-14-2009, 09:28 PM

Wow. The whiny, play-by-pay Mike is fucking awful.

Logan · 09-14-2009, 09:28 PM

In a hotel with a slow connection, apologies for always being way behind everyone else in responding...

BTW, how is it possible that a radio guy doesn't have a voice for radio?

DaddyTorgo · 09-14-2009, 09:29 PM

a pick already? *flips over from postgame show*

Jas_lov · 09-14-2009, 09:29 PM

They let Mike and Mike do one game a year and it's one too many. Gruden is pretty good in the booth and a significant upgrade over Kornheiser. I also liked Collinsworth in the SNF booth much more than Madden.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-14-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Is it just me or is Greenie terrible. I mean Golic is on his mark, but Greenberg looks very green as a play by play man. Lots of dead air.

It is not you. It is most definitely not you.

RedKingGold · 09-14-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Greenie calling football is not manly enough for me. Damn.

Oh my god an interception! Oh the humanity. It's like he didn't even mean to throw it there, oh my gosh.

Oh spit, I broke a nail on my microphone!

Big Fo · 09-14-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Greenie calling football is not manly enough for me. Damn.

I burst out laughing on that interception, only 25% of it caused by the throw. I don't mind ESPN as much as a lot of people here seem to but they deserve every bit of the hate for putting him in the booth.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 09-14-2009, 09:30 PM

Hey Vince, Pt. II.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-14-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

In a hotel with a slow connection, apologies for always being way behind everyone else in responding...

Your apology is not accepted. Please stop posting in this thread until you get a better connection.

Thx

larrymcg421 · 09-14-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

As much as I'd pay to see that, with the balls sailing through the scky so far I'm thinking no..

Are you talking about the passes to Heyward-Bey or the Al Davis mooning?

spleen1015 · 09-14-2009, 09:35 PM

Imagine Greenie calling the Brandon Stokley play yesterday. Yeah, I'm not feeling it.

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