Official 2016 MLB season thread - Page 14

Mizzou B-ball fan · 08-26-2016, 09:33 AM

The matchup in Fenway this weekend is going to be fantastic. Boston has the best offense in the American League. Over the current 15-3 run by the Royals, the starters that Boston is facing are 9-0 and have a 1.40 ERA. The Royals bullpen also currently has the longest scoreless streak in MLB in 14 years.

Something's got to give.

jbergey22 · 08-26-2016, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

The matchup in Fenway this weekend is going to be fantastic. Boston has the best offense in the American League. Over the current 15-3 run by the Royals, the starters that Boston is facing are 9-0 and have a 1.40 ERA. The Royals bullpen also currently has the longest scoreless streak in MLB in 14 years.

Something's got to give.

That run was against some pretty bad teams like the Twins and White Sox. I doubt Boston has too many fears about the Royals pitching other than maybe Ventura trying to headhunt Papi.

Royals defense is keeping them in the race however playing +5 ball vs their Pythagorean W-L.

Royals arent really built to play their best ball in hitters parks. 5th highest flyball rate allowed doesnt play well in Boston

Mizzou B-ball fan · 08-26-2016, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

That run was against some pretty bad teams like the Twins and White Sox. I doubt Boston has too many fears about the Royals pitching other than maybe Ventura trying to headhunt Papi.

Royals defense is keeping them in the race however playing +5 ball vs their Pythagorean W-L.

Royals arent really built to play their best ball in hitters parks. 5th highest flyball rate allowed doesnt play well in Boston

It was also 5-1 against the Detroit Tigers and Florida Marlins, who are both still in the playoff hunt.

For those that missed the Dyson catch last night, you should watch it. Just ridiculous. Reminded me a lot of the Griffey Jr. catch in New York.

http://m.mlb.com/kc/video/topic/7008...-perfect-form/

stevew · 08-26-2016, 09:31 PM

Gary Sanchez is good at baseball. I thought his catching skills looked dramatically improved between 2014 and 2015. This Yankees team could be really good very soon.

Greg Bird and Sanchez and Judge could be a nice combo

MrBug708 · 08-26-2016, 10:12 PM

If the Dodgers win the West, does Corey Seager win MVP?

I'm assuming Dave Roberts wins COTY either way?

Atocep · 08-26-2016, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

If the Dodgers win the West, does Corey Seager win MVP?

I'm assuming Dave Roberts wins COTY either way?

Bryant is winning the MVP unless he completely tanks in September.

MrBug708 · 08-26-2016, 10:25 PM

I don't doubt it I just know if we didn't have him we'd probably be sub 500

dawgfan · 08-26-2016, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Gary Sanchez is good at baseball. I thought his catching skills looked dramatically improved between 2014 and 2015. This Yankees team could be really good very soon.

Greg Bird and Sanchez and Judge could be a nice combo

Sanchez is seriously outperforming his minor league numbers - I'd guess it's more likely we're seeing a "Kevin Maas" situation than a true superstar being born.

Suicane75 · 08-26-2016, 11:35 PM

Heh, the first thing I did when I saw that post about Sanchez was look up Maas. I didn't recall him being out of the league so quickly.

jbergey22 · 08-26-2016, 11:53 PM

From watching a few Sanchez at bats(less than 10) I think he is as legit as they come. He doesnt pull off the ball on sliders away. He adjusts well during at bats and his pure power is great. He could just be very locked in at this very moment in time and not normally be that way but his plate balance, approach, and swing all look like a future star in the making.

With that said when Justin Upton is "on" he looks like a 400 hitter with 60 home run power while the 95 percent of the time he is not "on' he just stinks.(MLB terms of course)

Atocep · 08-27-2016, 12:15 AM

Nothing Sanchez is doing is even remotely sustainable. Nearly .400 Babip, 12% line drives, 42% homerun per flyballs, and 50% groundballs.

He should be hitting .250 or lower with moderate on base skills. He has a brighter future than Maas, but he's still closer to Maas than future MVP.

RainMaker · 08-27-2016, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Bryant is winning the MVP unless he completely tanks in September.

Tonight helps that cause a bit.

jbergey22 · 08-27-2016, 12:33 AM

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Line Drive swing. Doesnt seem to get much loft. His exit velocity is great. Id certainly want to pitch him low in the zone. Unless he adjusts a good pitcher should be able to get him to ground out a lot.

stevew · 08-27-2016, 02:36 AM

Sanchez is probably like a .260-.275 guy with 20+ homer potential, which in this MLB climate makes him a borderline star(from the catcher position if he's adequate or better).

Mizzou B-ball fan · 08-28-2016, 11:36 PM

Great road trip for the Royals. Went 4-2 against two playoff contenders. Unlike some of the other teams, the Royals now have 20 of their last 32 games at home, which is a great advantage given how well they play in Kauffman Stadium.

cartman · 08-31-2016, 03:47 PM

The Rangers seem to have King Felix's number. They chased him after 4 innings, and he gave up 6 earned runs.

dawgfan · 08-31-2016, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

The Rangers seem to have King Felix's number. They chased him after 4 innings, and he gave up 6 earned runs.

Felix isn't "Felix!" anymore. He's still a good pitcher, but his loss of velocity has caught up to him - his margin for error is a lot smaller than it used to be.

Logan · 09-07-2016, 07:59 AM

Curtis Granderson has 24 HRs but only 44 RBIs. I was curious about the numbers...he has hit 20 solo including 18 consecutive between 4/22 and 8/30. He had another 10 RBIs from the other HRs. Five came on sac flies. The remainder came on one triple and six singles.

So he has seven non-HR hits this season which drove in runs. That's an impressively low number.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-07-2016, 08:36 AM

Royals have to keep cashing in on this ridiculously weak schedule over the next two weeks. Between 9/5 and 9/18, they play the Twins, A's, and White Sox. So far, they're 2-0. Need a big run during this stretch to finish strong.

MizzouRah · 09-07-2016, 09:18 AM

What a 9th inning comeback by the Cardinals last night!

Arles · 09-07-2016, 11:32 AM

That was crazy, 3 bombs in the 9th!

claphamsa · 09-07-2016, 08:03 PM

Strasburg just threw a pitch and winced...left game. I hope they have insurance on that contract

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-07-2016, 08:42 PM

Wow. Ridiculous double play by Dozier.

JPhillips · 09-07-2016, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

Strasburg just threw a pitch and winced...left game. I hope they have insurance on that contract

They should have read Passan's book. After the first TJ surgery the odds go way up for a second. And after the second TJ the odds are high that the career is over.

cuervo72 · 09-07-2016, 10:01 PM

He was just coming back from some rest for an elbow, too.

MrBug708 · 09-07-2016, 11:08 PM

Dodgers have started 4 rookies in a row, in September, in a playoff hunt, and are gaining distance between them and second place

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-08-2016, 09:59 AM

This season for the Royals is likely to be the "What if we didn't have Soria?" season. He has lost a lead or given up the winning run now in 13 games this season. That's a huge problem. Even if we have a competent pitcher who doesn't lose seven of those 13 games, we'd be a couple games clear of the next team for the wildcard and would be on the heels of Cleveland. Soria has been a nightmare.

ISiddiqui · 09-08-2016, 10:04 AM

Wow... the Mets are tied for the 2nd WC spot? I would never have predicted this sort of run a month ago.

CrescentMoonie · 09-08-2016, 10:31 AM

The Cubs, and either the Cards or Giants have to feel great about potentially being in the playoffs against the Nats, Dodgers, or Mets if the current rotation problems continue.

Arles · 09-08-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Wow... the Mets are tied for the 2nd WC spot? I would never have predicted this sort of run a month ago.

And they have a cake walk schedule the rest of the way. Outside of Miami (3) and Washington (3), they face Atlanta (6), Philly (6) and Minnesota (3). Looks like it will be between the Giants and Cardinals for the last WC spot.

Logan · 09-08-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Wow... the Mets are tied for the 2nd WC spot? I would never have predicted this sort of run a month ago.

Some putz was running around here declaring them officially done back then. Eat shit, loser.

PilotMan · 09-08-2016, 11:29 AM

I'm not sure if the trade off of my schadenfreude of the Giants is worth it when the other side is the rise of the Cardinals. I feel so conflicted. But since no other team (in the race) is even over .500 I guess I better hope it's only one or the other and that the Mets keep rising.

C'mon Pirates! C'mon Marlins! Do something!

lungs · 09-08-2016, 11:29 AM

The Mets should bring Tim Tebow up immediately. Nobody else would bother showing up for the playoffs.

(No knock on Tebow, I'll be genuinely interested to see how he does)

stevew · 09-08-2016, 11:48 AM

Tebow to the mets

JPhillips · 09-08-2016, 01:07 PM

From Bob Nightingale:

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Sandy Alderson acknowledges that Tim Tebow won't be available every day in instructional league because of Tebow's ESPN broadcasting job

Good to see that everyone is taking this seriously.

Vince, Pt. II · 09-08-2016, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Dodgers have started 4 rookies in a row, in September, in a playoff hunt, and are gaining distance between them and second place

This is less the Dodgers and more the Giants and their historically bad stretch of baseball.

AENeuman · 09-08-2016, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

This is less the Dodgers and more the Giants and their historically bad stretch of baseball.

Can't think of a team that has ever had the best first record and then worst second half, while at the same time getting most regular players back from injury and acquiring good impact players in july.

Guess I blame Booby Evans for not taking the old bullpen problem seriously.

Vince, Pt. II · 09-08-2016, 02:28 PM

It's literally never happened where a team with the best 1st half record had the worst 2nd half record. I think the Giants still "trail" the Twins in that department by a game or so, but this is still incredible.

It's just amazing that every single offensive player is struggling simultaneously.

Arles · 09-08-2016, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

From Bob Nightingale:

Good to see that everyone is taking this seriously.

Until today, I never realized how many people were so passionate about the sanctity of instructional league.
— Ben Badler (@BenBadler) September 8, 2016

I agree with Ben. It's the instructional league - 90% of these guys never see AAA - let alone the majors. I think it would be wise for all participants to have other jobs waiting once it completes.

Logan · 09-08-2016, 02:37 PM

It's funny...I haven't seen any real backlash on my Twitter feed, which I would expect since it's primarily Mets and NY-centric and people around here already hated him from his time with the Jets. Seems like the majority of my circle at least are just rolling with it.

Logan · 09-08-2016, 02:41 PM

It's more about stuff like this being sold:

JPhillips · 09-08-2016, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

It's more about stuff like this being sold:

Yeah. It's also about Tebow's agent that just happens to also represent Cespedes.

Logan · 09-08-2016, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Yeah. It's also about Tebow's agent that just happens to also represent Cespedes.

So the thought is that Cespedes won't decline his option and get an enormous deal because the Mets gave a minor league deal to Tebow?

And BTW, my comment was about my Twitter feed being more about stupid/fun stuff like shirts than any backlash over him joining the time. The Mets aren't making any money off him any time soon.

JPhillips · 09-08-2016, 03:21 PM

Not that direct, but maybe the agent gives the Mets a right to match or looks a little more favorably on a four year rather than a five year. There has to be some reason other than talent. You're right that he's never going to play for the big club.

Logan · 09-08-2016, 03:31 PM

Apparently a bunch of teams offered him a deal, he narrowed the list to 5 teams, and the Mets were the only ones who didn't care about him skipping out on days for his TV gig. Don't think much more went into than that...maybe "NYC market" on the 0.01% chance this actually works out.

CraigSca · 09-08-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Not that direct, but maybe the agent gives the Mets a right to match or looks a little more favorably on a four year rather than a five year. There has to be some reason other than talent. You're right that he's never going to play for the big club.

So the agent would undermine one client for the other? Isn't it then time to get another agent?

CrescentMoonie · 09-08-2016, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

It's more about stuff like this being sold:

Who is selling that? The Mets can't until he's on the 40 man roster per MLBPA rules.

CrescentMoonie · 09-08-2016, 03:54 PM

No ligament damage for Strasburg. May be back for the playoffs.

Logan · 09-08-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Who is selling that? The Mets can't until he's on the 40 man roster per MLBPA rules.

Barstool Sports

claphamsa · 09-08-2016, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

No ligament damage for Strasburg. May be back for the playoffs.

miller for the yankees missed a month...so well see

08-26-2016, 11:53 PM	#660
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	From watching a few Sanchez at bats(less than 10) I think he is as legit as they come. He doesnt pull off the ball on sliders away. He adjusts well during at bats and his pure power is great. He could just be very locked in at this very moment in time and not normally be that way but his plate balance, approach, and swing all look like a future star in the making. With that said when Justin Upton is "on" he looks like a 400 hitter with 60 home run power while the 95 percent of the time he is not "on' he just stinks.(MLB terms of course) Last edited by jbergey22 : 08-26-2016 at 11:58 PM.

08-27-2016, 12:33 AM	#663
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	[IMG][/IMG] Line Drive swing. Doesnt seem to get much loft. His exit velocity is great. Id certainly want to pitch him low in the zone. Unless he adjusts a good pitcher should be able to get him to ground out a lot. Last edited by jbergey22 : 08-27-2016 at 12:39 AM.

08-31-2016, 03:47 PM	#666
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	The Rangers seem to have King Felix's number. They chased him after 4 innings, and he gave up 6 earned runs. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-07-2016, 11:32 AM	#671
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	That was crazy, 3 bombs in the 9th! __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

09-07-2016, 08:03 PM	#672
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Strasburg just threw a pitch and winced...left game. I hope they have insurance on that contract __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

08-26-2016, 09:33 AM	#651
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	The matchup in Fenway this weekend is going to be fantastic. Boston has the best offense in the American League. Over the current 15-3 run by the Royals, the starters that Boston is facing are 9-0 and have a 1.40 ERA. The Royals bullpen also currently has the longest scoreless streak in MLB in 14 years. Something's got to give.

08-26-2016, 09:31 PM	#654
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Gary Sanchez is good at baseball. I thought his catching skills looked dramatically improved between 2014 and 2015. This Yankees team could be really good very soon. Greg Bird and Sanchez and Judge could be a nice combo

08-26-2016, 10:12 PM	#655
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	If the Dodgers win the West, does Corey Seager win MVP? I'm assuming Dave Roberts wins COTY either way?

08-26-2016, 10:25 PM	#657
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I don't doubt it I just know if we didn't have him we'd probably be sub 500

08-26-2016, 11:35 PM	#659
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Heh, the first thing I did when I saw that post about Sanchez was look up Maas. I didn't recall him being out of the league so quickly.

08-27-2016, 12:15 AM	#661
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Nothing Sanchez is doing is even remotely sustainable. Nearly .400 Babip, 12% line drives, 42% homerun per flyballs, and 50% groundballs. He should be hitting .250 or lower with moderate on base skills. He has a brighter future than Maas, but he's still closer to Maas than future MVP.

08-27-2016, 02:36 AM	#664
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Sanchez is probably like a .260-.275 guy with 20+ homer potential, which in this MLB climate makes him a borderline star(from the catcher position if he's adequate or better).

08-28-2016, 11:36 PM	#665
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Great road trip for the Royals. Went 4-2 against two playoff contenders. Unlike some of the other teams, the Royals now have 20 of their last 32 games at home, which is a great advantage given how well they play in Kauffman Stadium.

09-07-2016, 07:59 AM	#668
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Curtis Granderson has 24 HRs but only 44 RBIs. I was curious about the numbers...he has hit 20 solo including 18 consecutive between 4/22 and 8/30. He had another 10 RBIs from the other HRs. Five came on sac flies. The remainder came on one triple and six singles. So he has seven non-HR hits this season which drove in runs. That's an impressively low number.

09-07-2016, 08:36 AM	#669
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Royals have to keep cashing in on this ridiculously weak schedule over the next two weeks. Between 9/5 and 9/18, they play the Twins, A's, and White Sox. So far, they're 2-0. Need a big run during this stretch to finish strong.

09-07-2016, 09:18 AM	#670
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	What a 9th inning comeback by the Cardinals last night!

09-07-2016, 08:42 PM	#673
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Wow. Ridiculous double play by Dozier.

09-07-2016, 10:01 PM	#675
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	He was just coming back from some rest for an elbow, too. __________________ null

09-07-2016, 11:08 PM	#676
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Dodgers have started 4 rookies in a row, in September, in a playoff hunt, and are gaining distance between them and second place

09-08-2016, 09:59 AM	#677
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	This season for the Royals is likely to be the "What if we didn't have Soria?" season. He has lost a lead or given up the winning run now in 13 games this season. That's a huge problem. Even if we have a competent pitcher who doesn't lose seven of those 13 games, we'd be a couple games clear of the next team for the wildcard and would be on the heels of Cleveland. Soria has been a nightmare.

09-08-2016, 10:04 AM	#678
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Wow... the Mets are tied for the 2nd WC spot? I would never have predicted this sort of run a month ago. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

09-08-2016, 10:31 AM	#679
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	The Cubs, and either the Cards or Giants have to feel great about potentially being in the playoffs against the Nats, Dodgers, or Mets if the current rotation problems continue.

09-08-2016, 11:29 AM	#682
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I'm not sure if the trade off of my schadenfreude of the Giants is worth it when the other side is the rise of the Cardinals. I feel so conflicted. But since no other team (in the race) is even over .500 I guess I better hope it's only one or the other and that the Mets keep rising. C'mon Pirates! C'mon Marlins! Do something! __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

09-08-2016, 11:29 AM	#683
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	The Mets should bring Tim Tebow up immediately. Nobody else would bother showing up for the playoffs. (No knock on Tebow, I'll be genuinely interested to see how he does)

09-08-2016, 11:48 AM	#684
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Tebow to the mets

09-08-2016, 02:28 PM	#688
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	It's literally never happened where a team with the best 1st half record had the worst 2nd half record. I think the Giants still "trail" the Twins in that department by a game or so, but this is still incredible. It's just amazing that every single offensive player is struggling simultaneously.

09-08-2016, 02:37 PM	#690
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	It's funny...I haven't seen any real backlash on my Twitter feed, which I would expect since it's primarily Mets and NY-centric and people around here already hated him from his time with the Jets. Seems like the majority of my circle at least are just rolling with it.

09-08-2016, 02:41 PM	#691
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	It's more about stuff like this being sold:

09-08-2016, 03:21 PM	#694
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Not that direct, but maybe the agent gives the Mets a right to match or looks a little more favorably on a four year rather than a five year. There has to be some reason other than talent. You're right that he's never going to play for the big club. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

09-08-2016, 03:31 PM	#695
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Apparently a bunch of teams offered him a deal, he narrowed the list to 5 teams, and the Mets were the only ones who didn't care about him skipping out on days for his TV gig. Don't think much more went into than that...maybe "NYC market" on the 0.01% chance this actually works out. Last edited by Logan : 09-08-2016 at 03:33 PM.

09-08-2016, 03:54 PM	#698
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	No ligament damage for Strasburg. May be back for the playoffs.

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