2006 NFL Offseason Thread - Page 12

jeff061 · 03-21-2006, 06:10 PM

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...s_on_adam.html

The Colts better have offered him about 3.5 million or my patience with the Pats has just about worn out.

TazFTW · 03-21-2006, 06:25 PM

Abraham has been traded.

Broncos | Team acquires No. 15 overall pick in Abraham trade
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:58:39 -0800
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the New York Jets have traded DE John Abraham to the Atlanta Falcons as part of a three-way trade between the Jets, Falcons and the Denver Broncos. If the trade is approved, then the Falcons will have traded their first-round pick, No. 15 overall, to Denver, who in turn will trade their first-round pick, No. 29 overall, and two additional picks to Atlanta. Atlanta then sends the 29th pick to the Jets for Abraham. The Jets would receive a draft pick two slots higher in the first round than the Seattle Seahawks were able to offer.

SackAttack · 03-21-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...s_on_adam.html

The Colts better have offered him about 3.5 million or my patience with the Pats has just about worn out.

Apparently he's getting a *signing bonus* of $3.5 million. No idea what the base salaries look like.

GrantDawg · 03-21-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Abraham has been traded.

Broncos | Team acquires No. 15 overall pick in Abraham trade
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:58:39 -0800
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the New York Jets have traded DE John Abraham to the Atlanta Falcons as part of a three-way trade between the Jets, Falcons and the Denver Broncos. If the trade is approved, then the Falcons will have traded their first-round pick, No. 15 overall, to Denver, who in turn will trade their first-round pick, No. 29 overall, and two additional picks to Atlanta. Atlanta then sends the 29th pick to the Jets for Abraham. The Jets would receive a draft pick two slots higher in the first round than the Seattle Seahawks were able to offer.

Ummm....That sucks.

Ksyrup · 03-21-2006, 06:43 PM

Awesome! Denver's now got the #15 and #22. I am officially on board with Abraham's pushing the Jets to trade him to Atlanta.

TazFTW · 03-21-2006, 06:49 PM

Hmm,

Broncos | Targeting QB with No. 15 overall pick
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:35:07 -0800
ESPNews reports the Denver Broncos are expected to target a quarterback after acquiring the No. 15 overall pick from the Atlanta Falcons in a three-team deal.

They're going after Cutler? I don't think the 15th and 22nd would get you into Matt Leinart range.

Swaggs · 03-21-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Hmm,

Broncos | Targeting QB with No. 15 overall pick
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:35:07 -0800
ESPNews reports the Denver Broncos are expected to target a quarterback after acquiring the No. 15 overall pick from the Atlanta Falcons in a three-team deal.

They're going after Cutler? I don't think the 15th and 22nd would get you into Matt Leinart range.

That would be an interesting call. Denver is pretty close to the top right now, so I wonder if there will not be pressure to add immediate contributors, rather than a QB to develop.

It would also be interesting to see if the Denver would consider moving up with that 15th pick to get Leinart. Shannahan has to be looking around and thinking that having Jake Plummer, while the other top teams in the AFC have franchise guys (Manning, Brady, Big Ben, Palmer) might not be his best bet to get back into the Super Bowl.

Logan · 03-21-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Hmm,

Broncos | Targeting QB with No. 15 overall pick
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:35:07 -0800
ESPNews reports the Denver Broncos are expected to target a quarterback after acquiring the No. 15 overall pick from the Atlanta Falcons in a three-team deal.

They're going after Cutler? I don't think the 15th and 22nd would get you into Matt Leinart range.

You can have #6 and take Young. Please?

TazFTW · 03-21-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Abraham has been traded.

Broncos | Team acquires No. 15 overall pick in Abraham trade
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:58:39 -0800
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the New York Jets have traded DE John Abraham to the Atlanta Falcons as part of a three-way trade between the Jets, Falcons and the Denver Broncos. If the trade is approved, then the Falcons will have traded their first-round pick, No. 15 overall, to Denver, who in turn will trade their first-round pick, No. 29 overall, and two additional picks to Atlanta. Atlanta then sends the 29th pick to the Jets for Abraham. The Jets would receive a draft pick two slots higher in the first round than the Seattle Seahawks were able to offer.

Updating the draft picks, the Falcons get a 3rd in '06 and a 4th in '07.

The Dallas Cowboys release Larry Allen.

Cowboys | Allen cap savings
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:15:47 -0800
Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports the earlier release of OL Larry Allen saves the Dallas Cowboys a total of about $3.55 million on the salary cap. It also frees them from paying a $2 million roster bonus due to Allen April 1.

So, I guess the starting Oline is now Adams, Kozier, Gurode/Johnson, Rivera, and Fabini.

ISiddiqui · 03-21-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Ummm....That sucks.

Yeah, the Falcons better be signing Hopkins now. Maybe McKay is close with Hopkins. Hopefully!

cthomer5000 · 03-21-2006, 08:11 PM

Abraham is gone. thank GOD. I hope Atlanta doesn't plan to make the playoffs, because that guy will either be getting sick or whining about some nagging injury. Worthless piece of shit. Good riddance.

fantastic flying froggies · 03-22-2006, 12:56 AM

So the Broncos give away only a 3rd and future 4th to move up 14 spots in the 1st round? That seems like a very good deal to me.

ISiddiqui · 03-22-2006, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fantastic flying froggies

So the Broncos give away only a 3rd and future 4th to move up 14 spots in the 1st round? That seems like a very good deal to me.

I'm sure that it adds up based on the sheet of values assigned to each pick, but I guess it depends on what the Broncos are looking to getting with that pick.

stevew · 03-22-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I'm sure that it adds up based on the sheet of values assigned to each pick, but I guess it depends on what the Broncos are looking to getting with that pick.

It doesnt even come close to adding up to what is considered "Fair value" on most charts. Denver trades picks worth about 800 points for a pick worth 1050. Now I think that Atlanta probably got the best deal that they could, however.

Cuckoo · 03-22-2006, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

The Dallas Cowboys release Larry Allen.

cthomer5000 · 03-22-2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

It doesnt even come close to adding up to what is considered "Fair value" on most charts. Denver trades picks worth about 800 points for a pick worth 1050. Now I think that Atlanta probably got the best deal that they could, however.

Basically, Atlanta didn't care to get full value... They're giving up the 1st for Abraham either way. So instead of giving up the 15 to get Abrham, they gave up the 15 for Abraham and 2 mid-round picks.

It's a win-win deal for all parties, in my opinion.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-22-2006, 08:49 AM

The Lions continue to gobble up career back-ups and depth guys. They signed OL Barry Stokes to a 3 year deal and LB Paris Lenon (Green Bay) to an undisclosed contract. Stokes has played with 6 different teams in 8 years. Wheee!

I reckon the Lions will try and take a run at Larry Allen. Millen tried to trade for him a few years back, but it fell through. The Lions are in desperate need of help on the offensive line. I imagine Allen would have absolutely zero interest in playing for the Lions, so if the Lions did manage to sign him, they would have to over pay big time.

JeeberD · 03-22-2006, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

Yup

ISiddiqui · 03-22-2006, 09:12 AM

Btw, news is that the Bears have signed Brian Greise to back up Rex Grossman. I wonder if there will be a QB controversy if Grossman isn't the savior he's been held up as?

GrantDawg · 03-22-2006, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

It doesnt even come close to adding up to what is considered "Fair value" on most charts. Denver trades picks worth about 800 points for a pick worth 1050. Now I think that Atlanta probably got the best deal that they could, however.

No, the best deal was to let him go. He is not worth a first in any way, shape or form. If Seattle wanted to give it, let them. I'm glad he is on the team, but giving up the number 15 pick when the team really needed that pick was a mistake.

stevew · 03-22-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

No, the best deal was to let him go. He is not worth a first in any way, shape or form. If Seattle wanted to give it, let them. I'm glad he is on the team, but giving up the number 15 pick when the team really needed that pick was a mistake.

Paying the guy over 8 million per does not seem to be a silver lining in this mess, as well.

GrantDawg · 03-22-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Paying the guy over 8 million per does not seem to be a silver lining in this mess, as well.

No, but I could live with that without giving up the first. If this guy goes down in training camp, I'm going to beat McKay and Blank with a wiffle bat.

ISiddiqui · 03-22-2006, 09:59 AM

If the Falcons don't get their OT in free agency, I'd say the trade was almost a total waste.

WSUCougar · 03-22-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Btw, news is that the Bears have signed Brian Greise to back up Rex Grossman. I wonder if there will be a QB controversy if Grossman isn't the savior he's been held up as?

Kyle Orton, we hardly knew ye.

JAG · 03-22-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

The Dallas Cowboys release Larry Allen.

Sad day. Best offensive linemen I've seen play for Dallas (and the only one I've ever seen a crowd chant for). I wonder if he'll retire.

WSUCougar · 03-22-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Sad day. Best offensive linemen I've seen play for Dallas (and the only one I've ever seen a crowd chant for). I wonder if he'll retire.

Also the perennial winner of the "Player Most Likely to Give John Madden an Eternal Stiffy" award.

rkmsuf · 03-22-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Local radio just said that the Cowboys are talking to Vanderjagt...

good, keep him away from NE

JeeberD · 03-22-2006, 01:55 PM

Local radio just said that the Cowboys are talking to Vanderjagt...

Cuckoo · 03-22-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Local radio just said that the Cowboys are talking to Vanderjagt...

So they'd have to keep an extra kicker for kickoffs? Just doesn't make much sense to me, but... I guess the options are pretty limited now.

rkmsuf · 03-22-2006, 01:59 PM

Hopefully the Pats can sign Edinger. He did a pretty good job in Chicago and can hit from 50+. Get him in for like 1.5 and you've done well.

TazFTW · 03-22-2006, 06:38 PM

The Raiders sign Aaron Brooks.

dawgfan · 03-22-2006, 08:02 PM

Can any Niners fans elaborate on Julian Peterson? If he's fully healthy, is he one of the top OLB in the league? I confess I haven't paid a lot of attention to him up till now, other than knowing about him by reputation.

TazFTW · 03-22-2006, 08:06 PM

Cowboys | Team close to a deal with Vanderjagt
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:02:44 -0800
Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports the Dallas Cowboys appeared to be closing in on a contract agreement with free agent PK Mike Vanderjagt (Colts).

It's a shame we won't have Larry Allen to knock him down when he misses a PAT.

Dutch · 03-22-2006, 08:20 PM

I can't wait to see Vanderjagt tell the media that Terrell Owens sucks. That will be awesome.

I am surprised that the Bucs let Griese get away. Griese really appears to be a "system" quarterback, so I'm not sure how he'll fit in with the Bears.

That leaves the Bucs free to call Chris Simms their starter.

Maybe we better trade up.

Travis · 03-22-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Can any Niners fans elaborate on Julian Peterson? If he's fully healthy, is he one of the top OLB in the league? I confess I haven't paid a lot of attention to him up till now, other than knowing about him by reputation.

Not a Niners fan myself (definite preference towards Seattle), but when healthy, Peterson is a terror. Fast, strong and a guy the offense has to account for on every snap.

More importantly, whether or not he is at 100% health, he'll be a great source of knowledge and experience for Tatupu and Hill. I think Hill will benefit the most from watching Peterson and how he plays while Tatupu relies more on anticipation than flat out athletisicm. By all accounts Peterson is supposed to be an excellent locker room influence (one reason they likely went for him over Arrington), and with all the youth Seattle has at LB, hopefully this turns into a dual reward pickup.

pennywisesb · 03-22-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

The Raiders sign Aaron Brooks.

Its good to see we won't be relying on Marques Tuiososopo and Andrew Walter next year. From Brooks' numbers, he doesn't look so bad, but I know a ton of people are down on him about his leadership ability and because he can be aloof at times. I hope he cleans up his act for us.

Ksyrup · 03-22-2006, 09:22 PM

I'm psyched. This means twice the fumbles and WTF plays since Denver plays the Raiders twice a year. A great day for AFC West teams.

Dutch · 03-22-2006, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

Its good to see we won't be relying on Marques Tuiososopo and Andrew Walter next year. From Brooks' numbers, he doesn't look so bad, but I know a ton of people are down on him about his leadership ability and because he can be aloof at times. I hope he cleans up his act for us.

Nothing says rehabilitation quite like the Oakland Raiders.

dawgfan · 03-22-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

Its good to see we won't be relying on Marques Tuiososopo and Andrew Walter next year. From Brooks' numbers, he doesn't look so bad, but I know a ton of people are down on him about his leadership ability and because he can be aloof at times. I hope he cleans up his act for us.

I think if a team gave Tui an extended shot at being a starter they'd be pleasantly surprised. He doesn't fit the vertical stretch passing game that Al Davis favors, but I think he'd be pretty good in a West Coast or similar type of offense.

At this point though, he's going to have to get lucky to get that shot, i.e. be the backup on a team that suffers a season-ending injury to their starter and Tui himself stays healthy (his problem in Oakland, as he got injured himself immediately after getting his first real shot at being 'the Man').

ZXTT · 03-22-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Can any Niners fans elaborate on Julian Peterson? If he's fully healthy, is he one of the top OLB in the league? I confess I haven't paid a lot of attention to him up till now, other than knowing about him by reputation.

Seahawks fan here, but I got to drive down I-5 in Dec 2002 going down to Las Vegas/LA and for about an hour south of Sacramento we had "Julian Peterson, the greatest football player in the world" on the radio. Even adjusting for bias, I figured he must be pretty good...

ISiddiqui · 03-23-2006, 08:42 AM

Vince Young may be dropping further down the board:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2380236

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Quarterback Vince Young was timed in 4.58 seconds in the 40-yard dash Wednesday on what is considered a fast track at the University of Texas in Austin, one NFL scout told ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The scout said Young's time was slower than anticipated.

QB 40-yard dash times
Reggie McNeal, Texas A&M, 4.35 Marcus Vick, Va. Tech, 4.42 Brad Smith, Missouri, 4.46 D.J. Shockley, Georgia, 4.56 Barrick Nealy, Texas St., 4.57 Bruce Gradkowski, Toledo, 4.59 Ingle Martin, Furman, 4.68 Tarvaris Jackson, Alabama St., 4.75 Brett Basanez, Northwestern, 4.75 Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt, 4.77 -- Vince Young's time of 4.58 would put him in sixth place among QBs

According to the same scout, Young's overall workout was "fairly impressive," but the scout said that Young was not asked to make certain drops and throws that he would have to perform in a private team workout.

While Young completed all but five of more than 50 passes, a scout told Mortensen, "That wasn't a remarkable achievement because he wasn't asked to make many tough throws and he waited a lot on his receivers to get out of their breaks. Teams that are curious about the guy are going to want to see more when they work him out."
One of those teams is the Tennessee Titans, who will give Young a private workout on Thursday in Austin, site of Wednesday's pro workout day for Young his his Longhorn teammates.

Other teams that have scheduled private workouts include the Houston Texans and New York Jets.

Asked to compare Young's workout to one given last Friday by Vanderbilt's Jay Cutler in cold weather and swirling winds, one scout said told Mortensen, "There was no comparison. Cutler made all the throws in tough conditions while Young limited his range of throws and he was indoors."

rkmsuf · 03-23-2006, 08:47 AM

Here's what I don't get about the Young 40 time disappointment. Does it really matter at all what his 40 time is? I mean 4.3, 4.6, 4.8, who gives a fuck.

I'm not a VY fan per se but really, the 40 has about zero to do with playing quarterback.

We know he's generally fast, can be mobile. Isn't that enough?

ISiddiqui · 03-23-2006, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Here's what I don't get about the Young 40 time disappointment. Does it really matter at all what his 40 time is? I mean 4.3, 4.6, 4.8, who gives a fuck.

I'm not a VY fan per se but really, the 40 has about zero to do with playing quarterback.

We know he's generally fast, can be mobile. Isn't that enough?

That's the problem. He wasn't all that fast in his time. For a QB that has had questions about if he can play in the NFL with his wierd motion, taking the ball under center, the Wonderlic score, now you have this. It's just a bad sign.

rkmsuf · 03-23-2006, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

That's the problem. He wasn't all that fast in his time. For a QB that has had questions about if he can play in the NFL with his wierd motion, taking the ball under center, the Wonderlic score, now you have this. It's just a bad sign.

Why? Because he was going to outrun the secondary for touchdowns on a regular basis but now not so much?

ISiddiqui · 03-23-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Why? Because he was going to outrun the secondary for touchdowns on a regular basis but now not so much?

Who said he was going to outrun the secondary in the first place? You have to see if he can before saying he will.

rkmsuf · 03-23-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Who said he was going to outrun the secondary in the first place? You have to see if he can before saying he will.

just seems silly to me to judge qb worth on their 40 time. if anything the relationship is inverse. the slower ones are better in general.

I agree though in the big picture that if you were under the impression he was a lightning bolt and see the time and combine it with the other issues maybe you back off.

Butter · 03-23-2006, 09:13 AM

His 40 time = Bruce Gradkowski's????

WSUCougar · 03-23-2006, 09:14 AM

I think the concern is being raised because much of the hoopla over Young has been that he is a superior athlete, particularly so as a QB. If his speed is deemed pedestrian than his stock drops a bit. If you're not taking him for his incredible athleticism then he is quite mortal.

rkmsuf · 03-23-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

I think the concern is being raised because much of the hoopla over Young has been that he is a superior athlete, particularly so as a QB. If his speed is deemed pedestrian than his stock drops a bit. If you're not taking him for his incredible athleticism then he is quite mortal.

taking the athletical qb has worked well

JeeberD · 03-23-2006, 09:21 AM

So he doesn't run sprints well...hasn't he proven over the last year or two that he can outrun defenses on a consistent basis?

03-21-2006, 06:10 PM	#551
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...s_on_adam.html The Colts better have offered him about 3.5 million or my patience with the Pats has just about worn out. __________________

03-21-2006, 06:25 PM	#552
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Abraham has been traded. Broncos \| Team acquires No. 15 overall pick in Abraham trade Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:58:39 -0800 Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the New York Jets have traded DE John Abraham to the Atlanta Falcons as part of a three-way trade between the Jets, Falcons and the Denver Broncos. If the trade is approved, then the Falcons will have traded their first-round pick, No. 15 overall, to Denver, who in turn will trade their first-round pick, No. 29 overall, and two additional picks to Atlanta. Atlanta then sends the 29th pick to the Jets for Abraham. The Jets would receive a draft pick two slots higher in the first round than the Seattle Seahawks were able to offer. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

03-21-2006, 06:43 PM	#555
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Awesome! Denver's now got the #15 and #22. I am officially on board with Abraham's pushing the Jets to trade him to Atlanta. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-21-2006, 06:49 PM	#556
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Hmm, Broncos \| Targeting QB with No. 15 overall pick Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:35:07 -0800 ESPNews reports the Denver Broncos are expected to target a quarterback after acquiring the No. 15 overall pick from the Atlanta Falcons in a three-team deal. They're going after Cutler? I don't think the 15th and 22nd would get you into Matt Leinart range. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

03-22-2006, 12:56 AM	#562
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	So the Broncos give away only a 3rd and future 4th to move up 14 spots in the 1st round? That seems like a very good deal to me. __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

03-22-2006, 08:49 AM	#567
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	The Lions continue to gobble up career back-ups and depth guys. They signed OL Barry Stokes to a 3 year deal and LB Paris Lenon (Green Bay) to an undisclosed contract. Stokes has played with 6 different teams in 8 years. Wheee! I reckon the Lions will try and take a run at Larry Allen. Millen tried to trade for him a few years back, but it fell through. The Lions are in desperate need of help on the offensive line. I imagine Allen would have absolutely zero interest in playing for the Lions, so if the Lions did manage to sign him, they would have to over pay big time. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

03-22-2006, 09:12 AM	#569
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Btw, news is that the Bears have signed Brian Greise to back up Rex Grossman. I wonder if there will be a QB controversy if Grossman isn't the savior he's been held up as? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

03-22-2006, 09:59 AM	#573
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	If the Falcons don't get their OT in free agency, I'd say the trade was almost a total waste. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

03-22-2006, 01:55 PM	#578
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Local radio just said that the Cowboys are talking to Vanderjagt... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-22-2006, 01:59 PM	#580
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Hopefully the Pats can sign Edinger. He did a pretty good job in Chicago and can hit from 50+. Get him in for like 1.5 and you've done well. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-22-2006, 06:38 PM	#581
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	The Raiders sign Aaron Brooks. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

03-22-2006, 08:02 PM	#582
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	Can any Niners fans elaborate on Julian Peterson? If he's fully healthy, is he one of the top OLB in the league? I confess I haven't paid a lot of attention to him up till now, other than knowing about him by reputation.

03-22-2006, 08:06 PM	#583
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Cowboys \| Team close to a deal with Vanderjagt Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:02:44 -0800 Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports the Dallas Cowboys appeared to be closing in on a contract agreement with free agent PK Mike Vanderjagt (Colts). It's a shame we won't have Larry Allen to knock him down when he misses a PAT. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

03-22-2006, 08:20 PM	#584
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I can't wait to see Vanderjagt tell the media that Terrell Owens sucks. That will be awesome. I am surprised that the Bucs let Griese get away. Griese really appears to be a "system" quarterback, so I'm not sure how he'll fit in with the Bears. That leaves the Bucs free to call Chris Simms their starter. Maybe we better trade up.

03-22-2006, 09:22 PM	#587
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I'm psyched. This means twice the fumbles and WTF plays since Denver plays the Raiders twice a year. A great day for AFC West teams. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-23-2006, 08:47 AM	#592
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Here's what I don't get about the Young 40 time disappointment. Does it really matter at all what his 40 time is? I mean 4.3, 4.6, 4.8, who gives a fuck. I'm not a VY fan per se but really, the 40 has about zero to do with playing quarterback. We know he's generally fast, can be mobile. Isn't that enough? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-23-2006, 09:13 AM	#597
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	His 40 time = Bruce Gradkowski's???? __________________ My listening habits

03-23-2006, 09:14 AM	#598
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	I think the concern is being raised because much of the hoopla over Young has been that he is a superior athlete, particularly so as a QB. If his speed is deemed pedestrian than his stock drops a bit. If you're not taking him for his incredible athleticism then he is quite mortal. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

03-23-2006, 09:21 AM	#600
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	So he doesn't run sprints well...hasn't he proven over the last year or two that he can outrun defenses on a consistent basis? __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

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