The FOFC Television Family Draft - Draft Underway - Page 11

DaddyTorgo · 01-16-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

That's like picking.. erm.. I don't want to talk about shows that haven't been brought up.. But, sure, Lucy had a kid. But her character was nothing about being a mother.

+1

not a fan of picks that are...violating the spirit of the draft, if not the letter of the draft

Raiders Army · 01-16-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

you spoke to soon

Gah...I just want to make my pick.

Mustang · 01-16-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

4.2 - Geoffrey (Fresh Prince of Bel Air)- Butler - This category is going to be dominated by characters from before the 90's, if not far before. Geoffrey is a modern, hip in his own way, butler. A good Butler not only keeps an immaculate house, but gets in a good barb here and there on the family without them even knowing it.

Blatant pandering to the Pumpy vote.

Tasan · 01-16-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Lucy is definitely the most famous female TV character of all time.

She is not a TV mom.

TV moms are like pornography, you know it when you see it.

Please please do NOT mention pornography and TV moms together, I picked Roseanne, for heavens sake!

RendeR · 01-16-2009, 02:25 PM

4.4 Mork from Ork, Robin Williams, Mork and Mindy: Wildcard

Sorry for the delay, I'm at work and someone came in for help.

Just the right fit for the wildcard role. Mork was an alien sent to study humanity. Robin Williams weekly delving into the psychology of how we humans interact on a daily basis was constant laughs.

Lathum · 01-16-2009, 02:26 PM

I think thats Renders best pick so far

RendeR · 01-16-2009, 02:26 PM

DOLA and if I'm creating a show I want to see Williams and Lithgow playing off one another, talk about hilarious =)

RendeR · 01-16-2009, 02:27 PM

DOh, dola busted.

Maple Leafs · 01-16-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think thats Renders best pick so far

Oh snap, dude just called Renders first three picks garbage!

Lathum · 01-16-2009, 02:27 PM

4.5- Eddie Haskell- Bad Guy

He was THE original sitcom bad boy. Snarky, conniving, and an all around trouble maker.

I realize I am going back aways with this pick, but he was the first person I thought of when I saw this catergory.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 01-16-2009, 02:28 PM

That was my #1 Bad Guy.

Tasan · 01-16-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

4.4 Mork from Ork, Robin Williams, Mork and Mindy: Wildcard

Sorry for the delay, I'm at work and someone came in for help.

Just the right fit for the wildcard role. Mork was an alien sent to study humanity. Robin Williams weekly delving into the psychology of how we humans interact on a daily basis was constant laughs.

Can you pick him? He was spun off from Happy Days, a Wisconsin show.

Lathum · 01-16-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Oh snap, dude just called Renders first three picks garbage!

thats a half empty point of view.

And by half empty I mean the garbage can is half empty

Mustang · 01-16-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasan

Please please do NOT mention pornography and TV moms together, I picked Roseanne, for heavens sake!

I probably rubbed one out over Samantha Stevens in my lifetime.

Mustang · 01-16-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasan

Can you pick him? He was spun off from Happy Days, a Wisconsin show.

Good catch.

Maple Leafs · 01-16-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

4.5- Eddie Haskell- Bad Guy

I had him high on my "best friend" list.

RendeR · 01-16-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasan

Can you pick him? He was spun off from Happy Days, a Wisconsin show.

Mork and Mindy took place in Boulder Colorado. The character was created due to the one time appearance of Mork in happy days, the time frames were changed and the location is different. Should be ok I think

Maple Leafs · 01-16-2009, 02:31 PM

4.6 - Brother - Mike Seaver

Show me that smile again...

Tasan · 01-16-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

I probably rubbed one out over Samantha Stevens in my lifetime.

Well didn't we all, but honestly, a lot of them should not be listed anywhere near that word.

Maple Leafs · 01-16-2009, 02:32 PM

By the way, I assume that if somebody makes an illegal pick and doesn't realize it we keep going and treat it like a Vikings pick?

Tasan · 01-16-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

4.6 - Son - Mike Seaver

Show me that smile again...

Dang. It was either him or Al for me last pick. Nice one.

Dr. Sak · 01-16-2009, 02:32 PM

RendeR's pick is legal IMO since they show Mork and Mindy took place in Colorado.

Raiders Army · 01-16-2009, 02:33 PM

4.7 Barney Stinson (How I Met Your Mother) - Best Friend

I think it'd be interesting to see Barney and Alex hang out.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-16-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

I would imagine that is because there is no family in Seinfeld.

But, it appears others think it was a good pick. I'm not sure how it fits in to a "TV Family" draft, though. I guess it depends on your interpretation. I already argued with Wade about that one.

Yep. I'd raise a red flag on this much more than Lucy who actually was a mom on the show. Seinfeld was a great show though.

Cliff was the best pick that I've read so far.

DeToxRox · 01-16-2009, 02:35 PM

I'm ready to go whenever Larry picks.

Raiders Army · 01-16-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think thats Renders best pick so far

I'd agree.

chesapeake · 01-16-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

But, sure, Lucy had a kid. But her character was nothing about being a mother.

Then picks like Samantha Stevens are bunk as well, because neither Tabitha nor Adam were significant presences on that show. Both Sam and Lucy were actively wives (certainly an important part of a family unit) on camera but rarely did much mothering.

I think folks are nitpicking here, but YMMV. I would also recommend that anyone skeptical about the Lucy pick as a mom should go read Lucille Ball's wiki page. Her giving birth on the show and becoming a mother was a landmark event in TV history.

DeToxRox · 01-16-2009, 02:39 PM

Quick question - How are we determining brother?

I was thinking son the entire time, but then I started thinking like a brother of a character.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 01-16-2009, 02:40 PM

Samantha Stevens wasn't taken 1.1.

Tasan · 01-16-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Quick question - How are we determining brother?

I was thinking son the entire time, but then I started thinking like a brother of a character.

I would think it could be interchangeable Son/Brother, but then there are questions about shows with only one kid, do those kids count.

wade moore · 01-16-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasan

I would think it could be interchangeable Son/Brother, but then there are questions about shows with only one kid, do those kids count.

This is very much a "leave it to the voters" situation imo.

DeToxRox · 01-16-2009, 02:44 PM

So if someone is a main character, they're stillable to be brother?

Well it won't matter, I'm set on my pick. I'll let the voters do what they wish with it.

Maple Leafs · 01-16-2009, 02:45 PM

I had assumed "brother" had to be a jive-talking black guy.

DeToxRox · 01-16-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I had assumed "brother" had to be a jive-talking black guy.

Was Pumpy ever on Martin?

RendeR · 01-16-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chesapeake

Then picks like Samantha Stevens are bunk as well, because neither Tabitha nor Adam were significant presences on that show. Both Sam and Lucy were actively wives (certainly an important part of a family unit) on camera but rarely did much mothering.

I think folks are nitpicking here, but YMMV. I would also recommend that anyone skeptical about the Lucy pick as a mom should go read Lucille Ball's wiki page. Her giving birth on the show and becoming a mother was a landmark event in TV history.

I beg to differ here, Tabitha was a huge part of bewitched. Her popularity as a character in the previous show was what got the ball rolling for the failed spinoff with her as an adult. Samantha Stevens is a very solid pick as a mother figure IMO.

The rap on Lucille ball probably stems more from the fact that at the height of her popularity she wasn't playing the "motherly" role she was just doing slapstick against the backdrop of her hubbies radio show. I think Lucy is a fine pick though.

A lot of this is going to come down to the voters and their PoV. I do hope that when voting is done that it is done publicly with a reasoning for how/why votes were given. The players deserve to see why or why not their picks got support.

RendeR · 01-16-2009, 02:51 PM

Just as a favor an we post our picks with the character and the show its from please? I'm old, my memory ain't what it used to be

Dr. Sak · 01-16-2009, 02:53 PM

Are you a pothead Focker?

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 01-16-2009, 02:53 PM

I think Barney is a great high-risk high-reward pick, RA.

Dr. Sak · 01-16-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I think Barney is a great high-risk high-reward pick, RA.

It was an awes-ful pick...i mean awf-some...

Eaglesfan27 · 01-16-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chesapeake

Then picks like Samantha Stevens are bunk as well, because neither Tabitha nor Adam were significant presences on that show. Both Sam and Lucy were actively wives (certainly an important part of a family unit) on camera but rarely did much mothering.

I think folks are nitpicking here, but YMMV. I would also recommend that anyone skeptical about the Lucy pick as a mom should go read Lucille Ball's wiki page. Her giving birth on the show and becoming a mother was a landmark event in TV history.

Well said.

Now that I'm caught up, I think Ed Norton was the best value pick in the draft.

larrymcg421 · 01-16-2009, 02:57 PM

4.8 Elyse Keaton, Mom - Family Ties

MikeVic · 01-16-2009, 02:58 PM

I thought I knew shows, but with this draft, I know now that I don't.

DeToxRox · 01-16-2009, 02:59 PM

Another pick for Team DeTox, and we go back to the 80's to find a young man who was a great brother, just trying to make it in this crazy world of ours:

4.9 Kevin Arnold, Brother, The Wonder Years

lordscarlet · 01-16-2009, 03:01 PM

Something to remember with all the bickering (which is often the best part of the draft): the voters largely don't read this thread. They see the rules, they see the picks, and they see any explanations that are posted in the voting thread. The "die hard" draft watchers are a small portion of the final tally.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 01-16-2009, 03:01 PM

DeTox has four nice picks.

Tasan · 01-16-2009, 03:01 PM

Not bad at all.

RendeR · 01-16-2009, 03:04 PM

Not a fan of the Kevin Arnold pick due to the earlier disagreements about hour long/half hour long/ sitcom/non sitcom, but thats just my take.

lordscarlet · 01-16-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Not a fan of the Kevin Arnold pick due to the earlier disagreements about hour long/half hour long/ sitcom/non sitcom, but thats just my take.

Except that Dr. Sak already said that it was not limited to half hour sitcoms. We've already established that it is not a violation of the rules, and people trying to convince voters otherwise are being dishonest.

Raiders Army · 01-16-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I think Barney is a great high-risk high-reward pick, RA.

Yeah. I thought we were skewing too much towards the old school sitcoms. Throwing a current one out there.

DeToxRox · 01-16-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Not a fan of the Kevin Arnold pick due to the earlier disagreements about hour long/half hour long/ sitcom/non sitcom, but thats just my take.

Was only a half hour show, and won an emmy for best comedy.

01-16-2009, 02:25 PM	#505
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	4.4 Mork from Ork, Robin Williams, Mork and Mindy: Wildcard Sorry for the delay, I'm at work and someone came in for help. Just the right fit for the wildcard role. Mork was an alien sent to study humanity. Robin Williams weekly delving into the psychology of how we humans interact on a daily basis was constant laughs. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-16-2009, 02:26 PM	#507
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	DOLA and if I'm creating a show I want to see Williams and Lithgow playing off one another, talk about hilarious =) __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-16-2009, 02:27 PM	#508
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	DOh, dola busted. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-16-2009, 02:28 PM	#511
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	That was my #1 Bad Guy. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

01-16-2009, 02:31 PM	#518
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	4.6 - Brother - Mike Seaver Show me that smile again... __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis Last edited by Maple Leafs : 01-16-2009 at 02:45 PM.

01-16-2009, 02:26 PM	#506
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think thats Renders best pick so far

01-16-2009, 02:27 PM	#510
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	4.5- Eddie Haskell- Bad Guy He was THE original sitcom bad boy. Snarky, conniving, and an all around trouble maker. I realize I am going back aways with this pick, but he was the first person I thought of when I saw this catergory.

01-16-2009, 02:32 PM	#520
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	By the way, I assume that if somebody makes an illegal pick and doesn't realize it we keep going and treat it like a Vikings pick? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-16-2009, 02:32 PM	#522
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	RendeR's pick is legal IMO since they show Mork and Mindy took place in Colorado.

01-16-2009, 02:33 PM	#523
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	4.7 Barney Stinson (How I Met Your Mother) - Best Friend I think it'd be interesting to see Barney and Alex hang out.

01-16-2009, 02:35 PM	#525
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I'm ready to go whenever Larry picks.

01-16-2009, 02:39 PM	#528
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Quick question - How are we determining brother? I was thinking son the entire time, but then I started thinking like a brother of a character.

01-16-2009, 02:40 PM	#529
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Samantha Stevens wasn't taken 1.1. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

01-16-2009, 02:44 PM	#532
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	So if someone is a main character, they're stillable to be brother? Well it won't matter, I'm set on my pick. I'll let the voters do what they wish with it.

01-16-2009, 02:45 PM	#533
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I had assumed "brother" had to be a jive-talking black guy. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-16-2009, 02:51 PM	#536
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Just as a favor an we post our picks with the character and the show its from please? I'm old, my memory ain't what it used to be __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-16-2009, 02:53 PM	#537
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Are you a pothead Focker?

01-16-2009, 02:53 PM	#538
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	I think Barney is a great high-risk high-reward pick, RA. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

01-16-2009, 02:57 PM	#541
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	4.8 Elyse Keaton, Mom - Family Ties __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

01-16-2009, 02:58 PM	#542
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I thought I knew shows, but with this draft, I know now that I don't.

01-16-2009, 02:59 PM	#543
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Another pick for Team DeTox, and we go back to the 80's to find a young man who was a great brother, just trying to make it in this crazy world of ours: 4.9 Kevin Arnold, Brother, The Wonder Years

01-16-2009, 03:01 PM	#544
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	Something to remember with all the bickering (which is often the best part of the draft): the voters largely don't read this thread. They see the rules, they see the picks, and they see any explanations that are posted in the voting thread. The "die hard" draft watchers are a small portion of the final tally. __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

01-16-2009, 03:01 PM	#545
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	DeTox has four nice picks. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

01-16-2009, 03:01 PM	#546
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	Not bad at all. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

01-16-2009, 03:04 PM	#547
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Not a fan of the Kevin Arnold pick due to the earlier disagreements about hour long/half hour long/ sitcom/non sitcom, but thats just my take. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

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