Five Minutes to Basketballukah (i.e. The March Madness Thread) - Page 11

Radii · 03-26-2005, 08:35 PM

What an awesome day of basketball. I say again, there better not be this much drama in tomorrow's early game

TLK · 03-26-2005, 08:36 PM

If I didn't know better, I'd say Donovan McNabb had something to do with the last play for Arizona....

Arles · 03-26-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Well, at least 'Zona didn't do their choking in the first or second round this season. They had the courtesy to wait until the Elite Eight.

Yeah, Arizona's only been in 3 of the last 5 Elite 8s.

Neuqua · 03-26-2005, 08:37 PM

im still having a hard time believing the last 7 minutes of this game.

Vince · 03-26-2005, 08:37 PM

What the hell was that shot? They only needed two points...why take that shot?

Logan · 03-26-2005, 08:38 PM

That couldn't have possibly been what Lute Olsen drew up.

Arles · 03-26-2005, 08:39 PM

As an aside, my dad just called me and said in the final 3:30 (with IL down 13), there were a grand total of two fouls called against Illinois. That's pretty amazing given the position Illinois was in. Still, Arizona should have won.

cartman · 03-26-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

Yeah, Arizona's only been in 3 of the last 5 Elite 8s.

It'll take a couple more trips to the Elite 8 to shake the stigma of losing to a #15 seed in the first round...

MizzouRah · 03-26-2005, 08:41 PM

What a friggin game!! GO ILLINIOS!!

Tomorrow NC will beat Wisconsin and my bracket will be one step closer to a NC - Illinios showdown.

Todd

MrBug708 · 03-26-2005, 08:44 PM

Still, it's Santa Clara....you're sounding like those who defended Lavin by saying he went to 6 of 7 16's....

Arles · 03-26-2005, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

It'll take a couple more trips to the Elite 8 to shake the stigma of losing to a #15 seed in the first round...

That was like 12 years ago - sheesh. They've only made 6 Elite 8s, 3 final fours and one championship since.

Still, Arizona had to play tougher than that. You knew that Illinois was going to have a big run in them playing in Chicago. I'll be rooting for the Illini to win it all, they are a tough team.

Arles · 03-26-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Still, it's Santa Clara....you're sounding like those who defended Lavin by saying he went to 6 of 7 16's....

Again, Arizona has been 6 Elite 8s, 3 final fours and won one championship since. It's slightly different than what Lavin did

Swaggs · 03-26-2005, 08:46 PM

I'm not sure what is worse. Being a WVU or Arizona fan today. WVU blew a 20-point lead, but it was over 25 game minutes. Arizona blew a 15-point lead, but had a great chance to win it in overtime, had a timeout, and got a horrendous shot off in like 15 seconds.

Basketball season might be over for me after today. I don't think my stomach can take anymore.

Arles · 03-26-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm not sure what is worse. Being a WVU or Arizona fan today. WVU blew a 20-point lead, but it was over 25 game minutes. Arizona blew a 15-point lead, but had a great chance to win it in overtime, had a timeout, and got a horrendous shot off in like 15 seconds.

Basketball season might be over for me after today. I don't think my stomach can take anymore.

I second that feeling

HerRealName · 03-26-2005, 08:49 PM

I'll say it for you Arles

... I was rooting for Illinois but it was pretty plain to see that the Illini benefited from quite a few calls tonight. That was a great game from start to amazing finish(es).

cartman · 03-26-2005, 08:50 PM

I'm just still bitter about that first round Arizona loss, just because it cost me the winning spot in the pool that year. That was the losing margin for me, that one game.

No ill intent towards the Wildcats, except for that one incident...

Arles · 03-26-2005, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I'm just still bitter about that first round Arizona loss, just because it cost me the winning spot in the pool that year. That was the losing margin for me, that one game.

No ill intent towards the Wildcats, except for that one incident...

The Miami of Ohio one killed me a while back, but I think that was a 5-12. I had them going out in the second round the season they won the title. If there's one thing about Arizona basketball, it certainly will give you gray hair

Arles · 03-26-2005, 08:56 PM

dola, I was the biggest Illinois fan growing up near St. Louis. I remember going to the "Braggin' rights" game for 6 straight seasons. So, if Arizona is going to get beat like that, atleast it happened against Illinois

Arles · 03-26-2005, 09:01 PM

I'm so glad Hassan is going pro. Listening to the Arizona press conference and he was supposed to drive to the hoop (had the best matchup) and either score or kick it to Frye on the high post or Stoudamire on the wing. He freakin had a brain fart and did his best Sling Blade impression at the top of the key

Wolfpack · 03-26-2005, 09:09 PM

I reckon I should shoot the ball...um-hmm....

Arles · 03-26-2005, 09:12 PM

I have to give credit to Lute. The press is just baiting him to rip the refs down the stretch and he refuses to do it in the press conference. That's an unbelievable level of class that I certainly wouldn't be able to do in his spot.

MrBug708 · 03-26-2005, 09:24 PM

I think Lute has about 2 years left in him. He's got good kids coming in, but no where near the star power he's had in the past

ColtCrazy · 03-26-2005, 09:43 PM

I'm just thrilled the Big Ten is doing well in the tournament, after pretty much losing CBS' respect. In the sweet sixteen, they showed the conference records in the tournament and didn't even mention the Big Ten was 6-2 at that point, 2nd only to the ACC.

Now, if they can go 1 for 2 tomorrow, I'll be pumped up. Hopefully it's Michigan St. Being an IU/Big Ten fan so close to Louisville, I don't think I could stand it if both Kentucky teams make the Final Four. Damn You WVU!

Arles · 03-26-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I think Lute has about 2 years left in him. He's got good kids coming in, but no where near the star power he's had in the past

I'd bet good money that Lute coaches another 5 seasons. Coaching is his life and he is in great health. Plus, in the last 9 years he's made 5 Elite 8s, 2 final Fours and one Championship. Why should he retire?

MrBug708 · 03-26-2005, 10:13 PM

What's he got left to prove?

Arles · 03-26-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

What's he got left to prove?

What do most of the Elite coaches (Coach K, Knight, Pitino,...) have left to prove?

Lute lost his wife a few years back and is now married to some Oil Tycoon (23 years his senior) who spends most of her time traveling. What would he retire to right now?

In 6-7 years, she will probably be ready to retire with him and he will be approaching 80. I could see him giving it up then. But as long as she works, I see no reason he should stop (health permitting, of course). The guy is 70 and not even on any medication.

MrBug708 · 03-26-2005, 11:00 PM

It's ok, in 2 years when Howland owns the PAC-10, he'll want to retire..

Arles · 03-26-2005, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

It's ok, in 2 years when Howland owns the PAC-10, he'll want to retire..

UCLA will be good in a couple seasons. Then again, Lute dealt with good teams from the Jim Harrick/Steve Lavin eras fairly well

MrBug708 · 03-26-2005, 11:11 PM

Perhaps...but lemme know when you go 30-2 and not underachieve every year

Arles · 03-26-2005, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Perhaps...but lemme know when you go 30-2 and not underachieve every year

Are we talking about UCLA or Arizona here?

It's been, what? close to a decade since UCLA's last trip to the elite 8?

MrBug708 · 03-26-2005, 11:28 PM

Indeed...just remember, your last NC came just 2 years after ours...

We got Top 5 classes lined up...Midnight Lute is probably getting worried...

sterlingice · 03-27-2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Arles

The Miami of Ohio one killed me a while back, but I think that was a 5-12. I had them going out in the second round the season they won the title. If there's one thing about Arizona basketball, it certainly will give you gray hair

Yeah, my poor dad and his brackets. Both my parents are 'zona alumns and so I also cheer for them and having lost to a 15, 14, 13 or 12- i forget, and 11 in the first round in my lifetime... ouch. Those just smart.

SI

illinifan999 · 03-27-2005, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HerRealName

I'll say it for you Arles

... I was rooting for Illinois but it was pretty plain to see that the Illini benefited from quite a few calls tonight. That was a great game from start to amazing finish(es).

Bought time we started getting some calls. Even against UW-Mil they weren't getting any calls. Refs still missed about 40 traveling violations. Love how they only time they call traveling during the tournament, it wasn't. (unc vs. nova)

hoopsguy · 03-27-2005, 02:52 PM

Foul calls on the Illini/Zona game last night:

Arizona: 10
Illinois: 18

Pretty low numbers for both teams in an OT game.

I'm stunned that Wisky is up four early in the second half against UNC. They have maybe two guys who can compete athletically with the Tar Heels: Tucker and Taylor. Wisky doesn't have a clue how to handle May. But they just find ways to hang around in games.

hoopsguy · 03-27-2005, 02:52 PM

Dola: light switch seems to have gone on for UNC, as they fire off an 8-0 run.

MikeVic · 03-27-2005, 06:13 PM

What an exciting weekend.

cthomer5000 · 03-27-2005, 06:20 PM

his foot is on the line. i spotted it before they even mentioned it. should be overturned, IMHO.

henry296 · 03-27-2005, 06:21 PM

It just isn't clear to me.

kingfc22 · 03-27-2005, 06:22 PM

I was yelling it was a two as well, but since they called it a 3. I don't see how they can overturn it.

MikeVic · 03-27-2005, 06:22 PM

Yeah, I can't say one way or another... not inconclusive, so I think it stands... although I'm rooting for Mich. St.

INDalltheway · 03-27-2005, 06:24 PM

he was behind it. they magnified it.

cthomer5000 · 03-27-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by INDalltheway

he was behind it. they magnified it.

I wouldn't say that was the way it played out. It was inconclusive, not conclusive either way. I thought the 3rd angle which they only showed once or twice made it look like his foot was on the line.

Buccaneer · 03-27-2005, 06:26 PM

There are only two things I want out of the NCAA tournament: SU win and a UK loss. If the former does not happen, then I wish with every fiber of my being for the latter to happen.

kingfc22 · 03-27-2005, 06:27 PM

If they had ruled it to be a two, it would have stayed a two. No way you could tell from any of those angles.

INDalltheway · 03-27-2005, 06:43 PM

Not to mention all the contact on that shot.. Had to count it a 3.

Karlifornia · 03-27-2005, 06:43 PM

What great games in the elite 8. Probably the most exciting whole round of tournament action ever, and MSU and UK are still playing (2nd OT).

Salim Stoudamire is the best player in college basketball, despite what happened yesterday.

larrymcg421 · 03-27-2005, 06:59 PM

Why didn't they foul when the shot clock was turned off? Is the strategy to see if the other team is stupid enough to take a shot?

jaygr · 03-27-2005, 07:03 PM

ugg Kentucky! I was so close to getting all final four teams right

TargetPractice6 · 03-27-2005, 07:25 PM

I miss Chuck Hayes already.

I wanted them to win so badly so he could get to the Final Four.

INDalltheway · 03-27-2005, 07:35 PM

Great games! Way to go Big Ten. Give them the respect they deserve...

03-26-2005, 08:37 PM	#504
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03-26-2005, 08:37 PM	#505
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03-26-2005, 08:39 PM	#507
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	As an aside, my dad just called me and said in the final 3:30 (with IL down 13), there were a grand total of two fouls called against Illinois. That's pretty amazing given the position Illinois was in. Still, Arizona should have won. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

03-26-2005, 08:46 PM	#513
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm not sure what is worse. Being a WVU or Arizona fan today. WVU blew a 20-point lead, but it was over 25 game minutes. Arizona blew a 15-point lead, but had a great chance to win it in overtime, had a timeout, and got a horrendous shot off in like 15 seconds. Basketball season might be over for me after today. I don't think my stomach can take anymore. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-26-2005, 08:50 PM	#516
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I'm just still bitter about that first round Arizona loss, just because it cost me the winning spot in the pool that year. That was the losing margin for me, that one game. No ill intent towards the Wildcats, except for that one incident... __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-26-2005, 08:35 PM	#501
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	What an awesome day of basketball. I say again, there better not be this much drama in tomorrow's early game

03-26-2005, 08:36 PM	#502
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	If I didn't know better, I'd say Donovan McNabb had something to do with the last play for Arizona....

03-26-2005, 08:38 PM	#506
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	That couldn't have possibly been what Lute Olsen drew up.

03-26-2005, 08:41 PM	#509
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	What a friggin game!! GO ILLINIOS!! Tomorrow NC will beat Wisconsin and my bracket will be one step closer to a NC - Illinios showdown. Todd

03-26-2005, 08:44 PM	#510
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Still, it's Santa Clara....you're sounding like those who defended Lavin by saying he went to 6 of 7 16's....

03-26-2005, 08:49 PM	#515
HerRealName College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	I'll say it for you Arles ... I was rooting for Illinois but it was pretty plain to see that the Illini benefited from quite a few calls tonight. That was a great game from start to amazing finish(es).

03-26-2005, 08:56 PM	#518
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	dola, I was the biggest Illinois fan growing up near St. Louis. I remember going to the "Braggin' rights" game for 6 straight seasons. So, if Arizona is going to get beat like that, atleast it happened against Illinois __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

03-26-2005, 09:01 PM	#519
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	I'm so glad Hassan is going pro. Listening to the Arizona press conference and he was supposed to drive to the hoop (had the best matchup) and either score or kick it to Frye on the high post or Stoudamire on the wing. He freakin had a brain fart and did his best Sling Blade impression at the top of the key __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

03-26-2005, 09:09 PM	#520
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	I reckon I should shoot the ball...um-hmm....

03-26-2005, 09:12 PM	#521
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	I have to give credit to Lute. The press is just baiting him to rip the refs down the stretch and he refuses to do it in the press conference. That's an unbelievable level of class that I certainly wouldn't be able to do in his spot. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

03-26-2005, 09:24 PM	#522
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I think Lute has about 2 years left in him. He's got good kids coming in, but no where near the star power he's had in the past

03-26-2005, 09:43 PM	#523
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	I'm just thrilled the Big Ten is doing well in the tournament, after pretty much losing CBS' respect. In the sweet sixteen, they showed the conference records in the tournament and didn't even mention the Big Ten was 6-2 at that point, 2nd only to the ACC. Now, if they can go 1 for 2 tomorrow, I'll be pumped up. Hopefully it's Michigan St. Being an IU/Big Ten fan so close to Louisville, I don't think I could stand it if both Kentucky teams make the Final Four. Damn You WVU!

03-26-2005, 10:13 PM	#525
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	What's he got left to prove?

03-26-2005, 11:00 PM	#527
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	It's ok, in 2 years when Howland owns the PAC-10, he'll want to retire..

03-26-2005, 11:11 PM	#529
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Perhaps...but lemme know when you go 30-2 and not underachieve every year

03-26-2005, 11:28 PM	#531
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Indeed...just remember, your last NC came just 2 years after ours... We got Top 5 classes lined up...Midnight Lute is probably getting worried...

03-27-2005, 02:52 PM	#534
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Foul calls on the Illini/Zona game last night: Arizona: 10 Illinois: 18 Pretty low numbers for both teams in an OT game. I'm stunned that Wisky is up four early in the second half against UNC. They have maybe two guys who can compete athletically with the Tar Heels: Tucker and Taylor. Wisky doesn't have a clue how to handle May. But they just find ways to hang around in games.

03-27-2005, 02:52 PM	#535
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Dola: light switch seems to have gone on for UNC, as they fire off an 8-0 run.

03-27-2005, 06:13 PM	#536
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	What an exciting weekend.

03-27-2005, 06:21 PM	#538
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03-27-2005, 06:22 PM	#539
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I was yelling it was a two as well, but since they called it a 3. I don't see how they can overturn it. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-27-2005, 06:22 PM	#540
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Yeah, I can't say one way or another... not inconclusive, so I think it stands... although I'm rooting for Mich. St.

03-27-2005, 06:24 PM	#541
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	he was behind it. they magnified it.

03-27-2005, 06:26 PM	#543
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	There are only two things I want out of the NCAA tournament: SU win and a UK loss. If the former does not happen, then I wish with every fiber of my being for the latter to happen.

03-27-2005, 06:27 PM	#544
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	If they had ruled it to be a two, it would have stayed a two. No way you could tell from any of those angles. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-27-2005, 06:43 PM	#545
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	Not to mention all the contact on that shot.. Had to count it a 3.

03-27-2005, 06:43 PM	#546
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	What great games in the elite 8. Probably the most exciting whole round of tournament action ever, and MSU and UK are still playing (2nd OT). Salim Stoudamire is the best player in college basketball, despite what happened yesterday. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

03-27-2005, 06:59 PM	#547
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03-27-2005, 07:03 PM	#548
jaygr H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003	ugg Kentucky! I was so close to getting all final four teams right

03-27-2005, 07:25 PM	#549
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	I miss Chuck Hayes already. I wanted them to win so badly so he could get to the Final Four.