November Console Sales Numbers

[Calis]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Nope. I bought it because I fell for NFL 2K after seeing it in the stores. But I ended up preferring the gameplay of Madden on the PS1, so I ended up going back to that. Then I tried buying other games like Crazy Taxi to justify my purchase, but I ended up not liking those games either. I think a big part of it was that I hated the controller, and loved the dual shock (whichever version was in existence at the time).

I never understood how they could've possibly thought putting the cord at the top of the controller was a good idea on the DC controllers. It made absolutely no sense.

The VMU's rocked though, that was a neat little thing I wouldn't mind seeing again, it was really handy in some games.

I'm a huge Dreamcast fanboy though. Loved the system, far and away my favorite of all-time. Definitely wasn't for everyone though, but was a haven for quirky games.

[stevew]

I almost bought a DC when they dropped to around 170ish bucks. It was some bundle with 2k Football and 2k Basketball in it. Glad I didn't, was going to wait for the PS2 instead. Although I never ended up getting that.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by stevew

I almost bought a DC when they dropped to around 170ish bucks. It was some bundle with 2k Football and 2k Basketball in it. Glad I didn't, was going to wait for the PS2 instead. Although I never ended up getting that.

That's one hell of a story there, Steve. Next up: stevew regales us about the time he didn't buy the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[stevew]

yeah, that was a bit "one time at band camp-ish"

[Fidatelo]

I liked my Dreamcast, but it will forever haunt me with guilt. I bought the system used from Blockbuster, and then simply downloaded and burned every single game I ever played. I never ended up giving a single dollar to SEGA. Then the system tanked. I guess it taught me a lesson, but I still feel like an ass about it.

(I learned the same lesson, around the same time, with Will Smith. I've always purchased every one of his albums, but when Born To Reign came out I just downloaded it illegally. It was really good (to me anyways), but a few months later his label dropped him due to poor sales. Once again my piracy had helped to spoil something I enjoyed.)

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I liked my Dreamcast, but it will forever haunt me with guilt. I bought the system used from Blockbuster, and then simply downloaded and burned every single game I ever played. I never ended up giving a single dollar to SEGA. Then the system tanked. I guess it taught me a lesson, but I still feel like an ass about it.

(I learned the same lesson, around the same time, with Will Smith. I've always purchased every one of his albums, but when Born To Reign came out I just downloaded it illegally. It was really good (to me anyways), but a few months later his label dropped him due to poor sales. Once again my piracy had helped to spoil something I enjoyed.)

Yes, because your $15.99 would have saved the record label...

[Fidatelo]

Originally Posted by Chubby

Yes, because your $15.99 would have saved the record label...

Do you vote?

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I liked my Dreamcast, but it will forever haunt me with guilt. I bought the system used from Blockbuster, and then simply downloaded and burned every single game I ever played. I never ended up giving a single dollar to SEGA. Then the system tanked. I guess it taught me a lesson, but I still feel like an ass about it.

(I learned the same lesson, around the same time, with Will Smith. I've always purchased every one of his albums, but when Born To Reign came out I just downloaded it illegally. It was really good (to me anyways), but a few months later his label dropped him due to poor sales. Once again my piracy had helped to spoil something I enjoyed.)

I think you can relax on both counts.

1) The Dreamcast faded because of poor sales, but most people weren't pirating the software at the time. You were not theP norm. That system failed on its own.

2) As someone else said, I don't think your fifteen bucks cost Smith his music deal. Pirating is done more and more each year and artists still survive. Ultimately, Smith lost the contract because the album wasn't that good. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Ultimately, Smith lost the contract because the album wasn't that good. Nothing more, nothing less.

It was like his fans wanted Adidas and Smith gave them Zips.

[Big Fo]

Heh, I just stumbled across one of the worst articles I've ever read and I'll put it in here since it's not quite worthy of it's own thread IMO.

Basically the author's premise is that the game Mass Effect is going to destroy the youth of America. Read it and weep for the author's stupidity.

hxxp://www.townhall.com/columnists/KevinMcCullough/2008/01/13/the_sex-box_race_for_president

I know that they all probably assume they have better, much more important, urgent, timely, things to campaign on, but I sure would like to get their individual takes on the new video game that one company is marketing to fifteen year old boys.

It's called "Mass Effect" and it allows its players - universally male no doubt - to engage in the most realistic sex acts ever conceived. One can custom design the shape, form, bodies, race, hair style, breast size of the images they wish to "engage" and then watch in crystal clear, LCD, 54 inch screen, HD clarity as the video game "persons" hump in every form, format, multiple, gender-oriented possibility they can think of.

The objections to such filth should be simple to understand.

Starting with the disgusting idea that one can "create" their own versions of what people look like, removing warts, moles, and bald spots while enhancing - shall we say - the extended features of the game's characters tends to objectify women, sex, and human relationships. Right? We can all agree on this?

Then there's the dishonesty behind the game' title. "Mass Effect" sounds like a war game with a deadly virus that is spreading unless the GI-Joes are able to defeat the evil and deadly substance and it's covert war plan. By it's design, kids could ask for it, or for their parents' Best Buy Card to go purchase it with nary a raised eye-brow. Generic, non-descriptive, and relatively harmless.

But it IS marketed for the X-Box 360, perhaps the most visually stimulating gaming system ever made. The software for such allows the blending of DVD video, component graphics, and the manipulation of actual pictures so that an alternate reality engulfs the fifteen year old boy playing it without much objection.

Now if I have trouble with my son taking his James Bond 007 games a little too emotionally, imagine the powerful effect that hormones add to the mix when the player's own character is copulating like jack rabbits with super-models, actresses, and anyone else they can spend the patience to create, name, and "put into play."

I hear the libertarian Ron Paul's answer already, "Government has no business censoring freedom of expression." Figures, he's a libertarian.

In the race for President there has been a lot of discussion about faith and it's impact on the lives of the individual candidate. Some pretty inane ones like Carl Cameron's less lucid moment this past week when he posed the inquiry about marital submission to Governor Mike Huckabee.

Yet here's a question that deserves to be asked, and in all likelihood will not be: "How much moral judgement should the President push into legislative issues that are likely to severely damage our children's innocence, function, and capability?"

I hear the nay-sayers claiming I'm being the wild and crazed Bible thumper I've always been - but its a worthwhile question isn't it?

If a pre-teen, teen, young adult, or adult male plays such a game in which the women DO submit without choice, are made to appear as Barbie streetwalkers, and perform whatever act can be imagined, what's to stop that same male from assuming that the women in his "other world" shouldn't be forced to do the same.

We now know because of the lengthy track record of serial killer after another that addictive use of pornography was prevalent in case after case - long before the switch got flipped and what their masturbatory imaginations have given into became what they were forcing real live human beings to do.

And because of the digital chip age in which we live - "Mass Effect" can be customized to sodomize whatever, whoever, however, the game player wishes.

With it's "over the net" capabilities virtual orgasmic rape is just the push of a button away.

Yes there will be many snickers that I decided to bring this issue up in the Presidential cycle of 2008 but how refreshing would it be for a President to prove to the nation that his own manhood was not in question and put his pen and signature to a bill that dealt with such simulated sex excess in a way that was punitive to its creators to such a degree that they would never recover from it?

As technology continues to push the limits of imagination and interaction more and more the brain, the emotions, the feelings will integrate with physical responses in reality. And while the makers of such trash seem to be pushing our next generation of young men through the gates of hell as fast as is humanly possible, it needn't be that way.

Here's hoping that as the next President will be forced to deal with this continual emerging reality - and enemy that has set its site to our destruction from within - that we will have elected a man of such character that he will have precision in the clarity of his response.

How would that be for a bold and uncompromising "Mass Effect?"

Gotta love right-wing logic

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Big Fo

And because of the digital chip age in which we live - "Mass Effect" can be customized to sodomize whatever, whoever, however, the game player wishes.

Holy shit. I didn't know that was in the game! Sign me up!

[wade moore]

So knowing nothing about this game - is anything he describes even remotely accurate?

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by wade moore

So knowing nothing about this game - is anything he describes even remotely accurate?

No.

[Cringer]

WHere the hell did that guy come up with that crap?

[Big Fo]

Another delay for Smash Brothers

Due to delays in the completion of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, we’ve had to change the release date of the game to Sunday, March 9th.

I deeply apologize to the people who have looked forward to playing the game for so long and ask that you hold on just a little longer. Thank you for your patience.

One theory I've read is that in some cases retailers have already sold more pre-orders (rivaling Halo 3 numbers) than Nintendo will be shipping and this will give them more time to press discs. Or maybe they are fine-tuning the online play, who knows, it's disappointing though.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

New news on the Bioware front. They have posted some job listings for PS3 developers. Given the recent 2K purchase of Bioware, rumor is that Bioshock 2 will be a multiplatform game.

http://www.2kboston.com/jobs_programming.php

[sterlingice]

I can't believe they're now doing previews of NPD numbers

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I can't believe they're now doing previews of NPD numbers

SI

The 'Console Sales Threads' on FOF are reportedly increasing the demand for the previews.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by wade moore

So knowing nothing about this game - is anything he describes even remotely accurate?

I think I missed those options.

If you are going to slam something, play the game first. Watch the movie first. Listen to the CD first. If you don't, you sound like a complete douche. What a moron.

[Deattribution]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

New news on the Bioware front. They have posted some job listings for PS3 developers. Given the recent 2K purchase of Bioware, rumor is that Bioshock 2 will be a multiplatform game.

http://www.2kboston.com/jobs_programming.php

Didn't EA buy Bioware not 2k? And, Bioware doesn't even make Bioshock. With that said, 2k does own Irrational Games, which is now 2kBoston/Australia.

I think you got some things confused.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Deattribution

Didn't EA buy Bioware not 2k? And, Bioware doesn't even make Bioshock. With that said, 2k does own Irrational Games, which is now 2kBoston/Australia.

I think you got some things confused.

I think I've crossed up Bioware and Bioshock once before and was corrected. Thanks for the clarification.

[wade moore]

Isn't Elder Scrolls Bioware? If so, it has the 2K name tied to it (I just know because that and NBA 2k8 are the only games I have for my XBOX 360 right now).

[Deattribution]

Elder Scrolls is Bethesda Softworks.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

New news on the Bioware front. They have posted some job listings for PS3 developers. Given the recent 2K purchase of Bioware, rumor is that Bioshock 2 will be a multiplatform game.

http://www.2kboston.com/jobs_programming.php

Did you actually hear/read a rumor or did you just make that shit up?

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by Big Fo

Heh, I just stumbled across one of the worst articles I've ever read and I'll put it in here since it's not quite worthy of it's own thread IMO.

Basically the author's premise is that the game Mass Effect is going to destroy the youth of America. Read it and weep for the author's stupidity.

hxxp://www.townhall.com/columnists/KevinMcCullough/2008/01/13/the_sex-box_race_for_president



Gotta love right-wing logic

Combined with the "rebuttal to the rebuttal" where he used the word "Gamer-Nerds" about 90 billion times, and a real CHOICE paragraph from Penny Arcade, I created a thread for it. We have Whacko Jacko 2.0

[MizzouRah]

I'm almost itching for a psp again.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Bee

Did you actually hear/read a rumor or did you just make that shit up?

It's been discussed on just about every daily video games news site. I just assumed with so many places discussing it that it didn't require multiple links. It shouldn't be a surprise given the sale of the company to one who emphasized multiplatform development.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

New sales number for week ending January 13th in Japan. The 50% (or more) decline in sales after the holidays peeks out its ugly head.......

Wii: 82K
PS3: 34K
PS2: 15K
360: 5.5K

A decent review of 2007 console sales in Japan from Kotaku. I'm sure we'll see a similar article for the NA market once the NPD numbers are released.

http://kotaku.com/339603/japanese-sa...-and-analyzing

Good write-up by Bill Harris concerning a recent Next Gen magazine editorial about the used game market.........

http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2...l-me-them.html

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I'm almost itching for a psp again.

I bought a Slim PSP a few months back. I didn't own a 'fat' PSP, but I did try out a friend's version. The Slim is MUCH better than the old version. Quicker loads and fits much easier in the hands.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

It's been discussed on just about every daily video games news site. I just assumed with so many places discussing it that it didn't require multiple links. It shouldn't be a surprise given the sale of the company to one who emphasized multiplatform development.

Wow...who would have thought that many places didn't know the difference between Bioware and Bioshock.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Bee

Wow...who would have thought that many places didn't know the difference between Bioware and Bioshock.

Obviously that was my mistake in typing it up and I already mentioned that. So sue me.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Good write-up by Bill Harris concerning a recent Next Gen magazine editorial about the used game market.........

http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2...l-me-them.html

The part that Bill misses is that a big reason the 30-day return window was problematic was people would take the game home, play it, beat it, and then return it within that timeframe. You can't return a dress you wore once either for the same reason (ran into a big issue with this at Target: our daughter wore a new coat twice, and each time a snap popped off when we tried to take it off, and they gave us fits about us returning something we thought was defective).

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

The part that Bill misses is that a big reason the 30-day return window was problematic was people would take the game home, play it, beat it, and then return it within that timeframe. You can't return a dress you wore once either for the same reason (ran into a big issue with this at Target: our daughter wore a new coat twice, and each time a snap popped off when we tried to take it off, and they gave us fits about us returning something we thought was defective).

Agreed. They have to find a more standardized way of policing that kind of a situation before returns for lousy software can become a possibility. I know that Babbages used to have a 7 day "return for any reason" policy and a 30 day "exchange for the same game" policy. That's a move in the right direction, though you'd think that people would still have time in 7 days to play through the single player modes in Uncharted, COD4, Assassin's Creed and other games and still be able to return the games. Perhaps a 3-4 day window might be better, but I'm not sure.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Tons of new console info from Surfer Girl:

There are like 30-50 of 'em... So im gonna update em in fragments... I'll start with the first 10 and then work my way through em (They are in another language) so i have to convert em by hand in order to keep correct grammar and correct sentences.

-Factor 5 is working on Wii now, but is still busy with PS3. Their new PS3 title is called Turrican.

-Square-Enix is making remakes for PSN. The remakes will not always be 'complete' (referring to the 'total' game being put on PSN).

-Some big 3rd-party developers are working with Apple to develop or port games to Apple's 'multi-touch' media machines (Iphone, Ipod Touch etc...)

-Mario Kart Wii will be released this very Spring.

-There will be no extra downloadable content for Puzzle Quest on XBLA.

-Mass Effect 2 is scheduled for a 2009 release.

-Warren Spector is working on something that will make some people happy and some people not.

-Gears of War will be released around the release of RFoM2. Expect the game to be officialy unveiled on the GDC this year.

-Sonic Chronicles is expected to release this Autumn.

-New Sonic game for Next-gen console(s)... Will be on par (in how good it is) with other sonic game(s) on next-gen consoles.

-Big chance of the GoW-film not making it's way to the big screen because of crappy plot and other problems.

-2nd Heavenly Sword and 2nd Uncharted should release in the Autumn of 2009.

-Nintendo RPG that Nintendo Power is raving about (you know, next month's edition) is nothing more then Sonic RPG!

-New Twisted metal for the PS3 will be a PSN title.

-Tales of Vesperia will release on the X360 and the PS3 on the same date.

-Saboteur will not be released on PC.

-Hellgate: Londen won't come to consoles.

-The Nintendo Wii will get more 'raw power' very soon.

-More multiplayer customisations in GoW2 in comparison to GoW1.

-Multiplayer in Fable 2 is like the mp in Fable 1 but with more people at the same time.

-Sony doesn't have 20 unannounced exclusives for 2008... For the total PS3 lifetime they do.

-It's unlikely that Mass Effect 2 and GoW2 will ever be released on the PS3.

-The new Factor 5 Wii game has nothing to do with Star Wars: Rogue Squadron.

-Rockstar will unveil the releasedate of GTA4 in the coming month.

-Sony will give 'release-'date of Home and in-game XBM on the GDC.

-Metroid Dread never existed, another 2D metroid for the DS however.

-Nintendo has thought about other N64 ports for the DS but eventually desided not to.

-There was this early build for a DS Smash Bros but the game never got through that stage.

-Something related to FF13 will be released on the DS sooner or later.

-Golden Sun franchise will be continued, however, not on Wii.

-Retro Studios is working on a new IP for Nintendo. Not an FPS.

-There will eventually be a new Metroid for the DS. Not metroid Dread and not made by Retro.

-Blizzard is working on a new MMORPG that looks like it'll be WoStarcraft.

-Alan Wake is currently still planned for a Q3 2008 release.

-First ingame Banjo Kazooie 3 images will be released next month.

-Disney wants Kingdom Hearts 3 on the Wii. A PS3 port still remains a possibility. However, they are still in the brainstorming-process.

-The development of the game 'Eight Days' for the PS3 is going on schedule.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Agreed. They have to find a more standardized way of policing that kind of a situation before returns for lousy software can become a possibility. I know that Babbages used to have a 7 day "return for any reason" policy and a 30 day "exchange for the same game" policy. That's a move in the right direction, though you'd think that people would still have time in 7 days to play through the single player modes in Uncharted, COD4, Assassin's Creed and other games and still be able to return the games. Perhaps a 3-4 day window might be better, but I'm not sure.

To be honest, the flip side of this is that nearly every game has a demo now, with fairly wide distribution between the internet and cover discs, so there is a "try before you buy" for the vast majority of games, which should cut down on the need to return a game itself as "defective" (defective media is another issue entirely).

[Fidatelo]

"-The Nintendo Wii will get more 'raw power' very soon."

What the heck is that alluding to? Any ideas?

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I bought a Slim PSP a few months back. I didn't own a 'fat' PSP, but I did try out a friend's version. The Slim is MUCH better than the old version. Quicker loads and fits much easier in the hands.

Yeah, I'm sure I'll miss traveling with "The Show" once again this year.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Gameplayer.com is reporting that some parts of the 'Lost Odyssey' game for the 360 will only be accessable if the game is preordered.

http://www.gameplayer.com.au/Home/NE...1-4925666133fb

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Devil May Cry 4 demo announced. It will come out on January 31st, one week before the actual release of the game.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

New Alone in the Dark game delayed until May. PS3 version likely will be delayed even further.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/17/al...s3-even-later/

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

"-The Nintendo Wii will get more 'raw power' very soon."

What the heck is that alluding to? Any ideas?

Chainsaw attachment for the wii remote.

[SirFozzie]

Oh sheesh. Didn't the uber flop Magna Cum Laude kill this series once and for all? Now, Leisure Suit Larry: Box Office Bust?

http://kotaku.com/346033/leisure-sui...to-consoles-pc

[Calis]

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

"-The Nintendo Wii will get more 'raw power' very soon."

What the heck is that alluding to? Any ideas?

I think the only logical answer to this question is a new Power Glove.

That's what everyone has been clamoring for anyway.

[Fidatelo]

Originally Posted by Calis

I think the only logical answer to this question is a new Power Glove.

That's what everyone has been clamoring for anyway.

Fuckin' A

[MikeVic]

No! It better be some sort of external storage thing so that Rock Band will come to the Wii.

[Synovia]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

No! It better be some sort of external storage thing so that Rock Band will come to the Wii.

What, Rockband can't fit its songs on a 2gb SdCard?

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by Synovia

What, Rockband can't fit its songs on a 2gb SdCard?

I think there's something where the SD cards can't be accessed to see Virtual Console games, so I thought it can't be accessed during games at all.

[sterlingice]

Two little tidbits that would really get me rabidly active rather than my current passive checking-whenever-I'm-somewhere about finding a Wii would be if Rock Band would get a release there and the above "-Disney wants Kingdom Hearts 3 on the Wii"

SI