OT: Crank, Speed, Meth, Crystal, etc. - Page 2

04-16-2003, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Shorty3281
Don't fuck with my stones, thats my favorite for cost and quality.

Shorty - I thought you were still in school?

Damn, I need to stop socializing with so many criminals.

HornsManiac

MizzouRah · 04-16-2003, 04:28 PM

X is unreal in terms of the feeling you get when using. I've tried it maybe 6-7 times, although it's been 2 years since my last time and that was on my honeymoon with my wife. An orgasm on X is unreal... in fact just thinking about it gives me goosebumps. Things like taking a shower, chewing a starburst, playing with silly putty, using a vicks inhaler, etc... are definitly erotic on X.

Ahhhh... the younger days.

Todd

sabotai · 04-16-2003, 04:55 PM

Marmel appears to be a classic example of over compensation. I'm betting he's actually a repressed homosexual.

And I LOVE lesbians!!!

Ksyrup · 04-16-2003, 04:59 PM

If you need X on your honeymoon, what in the hell are you gonna use for the 25th anniversary?

04-16-2003, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
If you need X on your honeymoon, what in the hell are you gonna use for the 25th anniversary?

Submitted.

LMAO Great stuff, Ksyrup.

HornsManiac

wbonnell · 04-16-2003, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by dawgfan
Just as a devil's argument, I'm curious to know if Ksyrup and others that foreswear 'drugs' also avoid alcohol.

Well, I probably drink 1-2 beers a week- sometimes a little more, sometimes none at all. And I must admit that taste isn't the only part I like. I also like the way it warms me up and relaxes me. However, this is a much milder effect than, say, getting high on crank. Parallels can be drawn, I suppose, but there's really no comparison. Now, if I drank, say, 6 beers in one sitting, then clearly I would be using it as an escape mechanism, and in my opinion, drugs are not a healthy escape. Why not read a book or play a video game...

wbonnell · 04-16-2003, 05:38 PM

dola

The hard part is discerning where that line lies. To simplify I would say the line is drawn when it reaches escape as in: "I must have a beer to help unwind after a long day". I suspect that's how the addiction starts. If you're drinking beer everyday, you have a problem. A problem under control, perhaps, but a problem nonetheless.

Fritz · 04-16-2003, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by HornsManiac
Submitted.

LMAO Great stuff, Ksyrup.

HornsManiac

new rules. cant curse in a QOTM

04-16-2003, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
If you need X on your honeymoon, what in the hell are you gonna use for the 25th anniversary?

By then I am sure some chemist student reject turned addict will have introduced Viagra laced Ecstasy for the impotent druggie in your life.

HornsManiac

BishopMVP · 04-16-2003, 06:47 PM

To answer the original question, it's not popular up here at all. I think it's mainly a rural/southern thing for now.

McSweeny · 04-16-2003, 06:51 PM

yeah we enjoy the beer and the pot up here in good old connecticut

dawgfan · 04-16-2003, 06:53 PM

Not having ever tried crank I have no idea what the range of effects are. Obviously with alcohol you can range from hardly any effect to completely bombed. I've been completely bombed, I've been extremely high on dope and I've taken both LSD and magic mushrooms. While each experience is different, I'm not prepared to say they're all that different in terms of how far away from "normal" consciousness they take you. Yes, bombed on alcohol is a completely different experience than tripping heavily on psychodelics, but they're both quite a long ways from your baseline experience.

My point is still that most people do drugs to alter their experiences. The reasons why are as varied as there are people in this world, but the primary purpose is the same.

For those that drink coffee solely for the taste, I curious - have you switched to decaf then? I'm not a coffee drinker myself (never could acquire the taste) so maybe that's a dumb question - I suppose decaf could taste like crap in comparison to regular. But I still suspect that most that drink coffee on a regular basis are still doing so partly for the buzz, even if they've developed a tolerance and don't notice it so much anymore.

The thing about saying "drugs are not a healthy escape" is how do you define the word 'drug'? Our government and by conjunction society has done such a good job of demonizing the word that most people would agree with your statement, but where do you draw the line in describing something as a drug?

Don't get me wrong here - I acknowledge that there is certainly a point where casual use can turn into addiction and becomes an unhealthy situation. And I also don't mean to imply that because I believe there is an inherent drive in most people to alter their consciousness at times that it excuses addictive/destructive substance abuse. I also believe that if one is going to deliberately mess with their consciousness, they should do so in a way that doesn't cause a danger to others (i.e. driving while altered, etc.)

I just think it's overly simplistic to say "drugs are bad" and questioning why anyone leading a seemingly good life would want to take drugs is a narrow viewpoint.

Airhog · 04-16-2003, 06:57 PM

meth in a nationwide epidemic. It affects every community in the country probably

korme · 04-16-2003, 07:03 PM

Hardly, Airhog. I'm too lazy to type more, read my other post.

Ksyrup · 04-16-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by dawgfan
I just think it's overly simplistic to say "drugs are bad" and questioning why anyone leading a seemingly good life would want to take drugs is a narrow viewpoint.

I can't argue that my perspective isn't narrow - it's the only one I've got!

BishopMVP · 04-16-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by Airhog
meth in a nationwide epidemic. It affects every community in the country probably

When was the last time you heard of a meth lab bust in the blue states? It's always East Bumfuck, Arkansas. Up here we stick to alcohol, weed, XTC and coke.

Fritz · 04-16-2003, 07:10 PM

drugs are bad

dawgfan · 04-16-2003, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
I can't argue that my perspective isn't narrow - it's the only one I've got!

True 'dat. Hope you didn't take that personally...

I'm curious, do you do anything that you would consider as something that changes your normal experience, i.e. are you an adrenaline junkie, a workout fiend, etc.?

sabotai · 04-16-2003, 07:47 PM

In NJ it's mostly pot and X. Haven't heard of many (any) meth lab busts in my neck of the woods.

Ksyrup · 04-16-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by dawgfan
True 'dat. Hope you didn't take that personally...

I'm curious, do you do anything that you would consider as something that changes your normal experience, i.e. are you an adrenaline junkie, a workout fiend, etc.?

No, not really. Like I said, I think music is as close as I get to an "altered state."

MizzouRah · 04-16-2003, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
If you need X on your honeymoon, what in the hell are you gonna use for the 25th anniversary?

LOL! That is a quote of the day

We didn't need anything, we've done it before and wanted to see what it was like laying on the beach in Jamaica, so on the last day of our honeymoon we dropped them and just layed there talking and enjoying the night... They were a present from a good friend of ours.

Todd

Airhog · 04-16-2003, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by BishopMVP
When was the last time you heard of a meth lab bust in the blue states? It's always East Bumfuck, Arkansas. Up here we stick to alcohol, weed, XTC and coke.

just because they arent busting labs doesnt mean its not being made and shipped there...

Airhog · 04-16-2003, 08:58 PM

okay I have to retract my statements, Apparently meth hasnt taken hold in the northeast.

Another interesting fact is that 4% of labs produce more than 80% of the countries meth supply. I would imagine that many of the meth labs you see getting busted are just built by some junkie looking to supply himself and make a few bucks, these arent the labs that are supplying this country.

Cowtown · 04-16-2003, 09:05 PM

MizzouRah · 04-16-2003, 09:19 PM

LOL!

Todd

Qwikshot · 04-16-2003, 09:24 PM

There was a meth lab bust in Philadelphia...

tucker342 · 04-16-2003, 10:22 PM

Speed is a really big problem here in Iowa. People usually make it out at their farms...

04-17-2003, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by HornsManiac
If you will notice I still used the word "addict" because very few people can just put down speed and never touch it again, so by definition they are probably considered addicted. However, they may go weeks or months without getting wired. Still, they will almost always without fail get wired again at some point. I know people who only get wired every few months, but like clockwork they get wired every few months and probably will for the rest of their lives. Here starts a new FOFC debate, are people like this truly addicts in your mind and the minds of society?

Was this question for the forum missed? Opinions please, are these people really addicts?

HornsManiac

04-16-2003, 04:59 PM	#54
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	If you need X on your honeymoon, what in the hell are you gonna use for the 25th anniversary? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

04-16-2003, 06:57 PM	#63
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	meth in a nationwide epidemic. It affects every community in the country probably __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

04-16-2003, 07:10 PM	#67
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	drugs are bad __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

04-16-2003, 08:58 PM	#73
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	okay I have to retract my statements, Apparently meth hasnt taken hold in the northeast. Another interesting fact is that 4% of labs produce more than 80% of the countries meth supply. I would imagine that many of the meth labs you see getting busted are just built by some junkie looking to supply himself and make a few bucks, these arent the labs that are supplying this country. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

04-16-2003, 09:05 PM	#74
Cowtown n00b Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cowtown	__________________ Crazy? I was crazy once, so they put me in a rubber room, it had worms and they tickled...Almost drove me crazy! Crazy? I was crazy once........

04-16-2003, 04:28 PM	#52
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	X is unreal in terms of the feeling you get when using. I've tried it maybe 6-7 times, although it's been 2 years since my last time and that was on my honeymoon with my wife. An orgasm on X is unreal... in fact just thinking about it gives me goosebumps. Things like taking a shower, chewing a starburst, playing with silly putty, using a vicks inhaler, etc... are definitly erotic on X. Ahhhh... the younger days. Todd

04-16-2003, 04:55 PM	#53
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Marmel appears to be a classic example of over compensation. I'm betting he's actually a repressed homosexual. And I LOVE lesbians!!!

04-16-2003, 05:38 PM	#57
wbonnell College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Round Rock TX	dola The hard part is discerning where that line lies. To simplify I would say the line is drawn when it reaches escape as in: "I must have a beer to help unwind after a long day". I suspect that's how the addiction starts. If you're drinking beer everyday, you have a problem. A problem under control, perhaps, but a problem nonetheless.

04-16-2003, 06:47 PM	#60
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	To answer the original question, it's not popular up here at all. I think it's mainly a rural/southern thing for now.

04-16-2003, 06:51 PM	#61
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	yeah we enjoy the beer and the pot up here in good old connecticut

04-16-2003, 06:53 PM	#62
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	Not having ever tried crank I have no idea what the range of effects are. Obviously with alcohol you can range from hardly any effect to completely bombed. I've been completely bombed, I've been extremely high on dope and I've taken both LSD and magic mushrooms. While each experience is different, I'm not prepared to say they're all that different in terms of how far away from "normal" consciousness they take you. Yes, bombed on alcohol is a completely different experience than tripping heavily on psychodelics, but they're both quite a long ways from your baseline experience. My point is still that most people do drugs to alter their experiences. The reasons why are as varied as there are people in this world, but the primary purpose is the same. For those that drink coffee solely for the taste, I curious - have you switched to decaf then? I'm not a coffee drinker myself (never could acquire the taste) so maybe that's a dumb question - I suppose decaf could taste like crap in comparison to regular. But I still suspect that most that drink coffee on a regular basis are still doing so partly for the buzz, even if they've developed a tolerance and don't notice it so much anymore. The thing about saying "drugs are not a healthy escape" is how do you define the word 'drug'? Our government and by conjunction society has done such a good job of demonizing the word that most people would agree with your statement, but where do you draw the line in describing something as a drug? Don't get me wrong here - I acknowledge that there is certainly a point where casual use can turn into addiction and becomes an unhealthy situation. And I also don't mean to imply that because I believe there is an inherent drive in most people to alter their consciousness at times that it excuses addictive/destructive substance abuse. I also believe that if one is going to deliberately mess with their consciousness, they should do so in a way that doesn't cause a danger to others (i.e. driving while altered, etc.) I just think it's overly simplistic to say "drugs are bad" and questioning why anyone leading a seemingly good life would want to take drugs is a narrow viewpoint.

04-16-2003, 07:03 PM	#64
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Hardly, Airhog. I'm too lazy to type more, read my other post.

04-16-2003, 07:47 PM	#69
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	In NJ it's mostly pot and X. Haven't heard of many (any) meth lab busts in my neck of the woods.

04-16-2003, 09:19 PM	#75
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	LOL! Todd

04-16-2003, 09:24 PM	#76
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	There was a meth lab bust in Philadelphia... __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

04-16-2003, 10:22 PM	#77
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	Speed is a really big problem here in Iowa. People usually make it out at their farms...

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