cartman's FOFC/SGS College Football Top 25 Poll #11, open for voting

[cartman]

Just when you think you got the games figured out, you get a ton of surprises!

Votes for this week's poll are due in by 6pm Central time, Wednesday, Nov. 23rd. Just a note, the next poll won't be until after the games of the weekend of Dec. 3rd, so it will cover the next two week's games.

Here is how last week's poll fared:

Team			Rec.	Weekend result
1. USC 			11-0	beat #16 Fresno St. 50-42
2. Texas 		10-0	Bye
3. Miami		8-2	lost to Georgia Tech 14-10
4. Penn State		10-1	beat Michigan St.31-22
5. LSU			9-1	beat Mississippi 40-7
6. Virginia Tech	9-1	beat Virginia 52-14
7. Notre Dame		8-2	beat Syracuse 34-10
8. Ohio State		9-2	beat #17 Michigan 25-21
9. Alabama		9-2	lost to #12 Auburn 28-18
10. Oregon		10-1	beat Oregon St. 56-14
11. West Virginia	8-1	Bye
12. Auburn		8-2	beat #9 Alabama 28-18
13. UCLA		9-1	Bye
14. Georgia		8-2	beat Kentucky 45-13
15. TCU			10-1	Bye
16. Fresno State	8-2	lost to #1 USC 50-42
17. Michigan		7-4	lost to #8 Ohio State 25-21
18. Louisville		7-2	Bye
19. South Carolina	7-4	lost to Clemson 13-9
20. Florida		7-3	Bye
21. UTEP		8-2	lost to UAB 35-23
T22. Florida State	7-3	Bye
T22. Texas Tech		9-2	beat Oklahoma 23-21
24. Wisconsin		8-3	Bye
25. Boston College	8-3	beat Maryland 31-16

[JonInMiddleGA]

1. USC (1)
2. Texas (2)
3. Notre Dame (4)
4. LSU (5)
5. Virginia Tech (6)
6. Penn State (9)
7. Auburn (10)
8. Ohio State (8)
9. Miami (3)
10. Oregon (12)
11. TCU (13)
12. UCLA (14)
13. Florida (16)
14. Georgia (17)
15. Alabama (7)
16. Fresno State (19)
17. Florida State (18)
18. Michigan (11)
19. West Virginia (20)
20. Boston College (22)
21. Louisville (21)
22. South Carolina (15)
23. Texas Tech (23)
24. Wisconsin (25)
25. Georgia Tech (--)

Dropped Out - UTEP (24)

[duckman]

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Louisiana State
4. Penn State
5. Notre Dame
6. West Virginia
7. Virginia Tech
8. Oregon
9. Auburn
10. Ohio State
11. Georgia
12. Texas Christian
13. Miami
14. UCLA
15. Alabama
16. Louisville
17. Boston College
18. Texas Tech
19. Fresno State
20. Florida State
21. Wisconsin
22. UTEP
23. Iowa State
24. Michigan
25. Florida

[Bearcat729]

1. Texas
2. USC
3. LSU
4. Penn State
5. Notre Dame
6. Virginia Tech
7. Ohio State
8. Miami
9. Auburn
10. Oregon
11. West Virginia
12. UCLA
13. Georgia
14. Fresno St
15. Alabama
16. TCU
17. Louisville
18. Florida
19. Michigan
20. Texas Tech
21. Florida State
22. Georgia Tech
23. Wisconsin
24. Boston College
25. South Carolina

[timmynausea]

1. USC
2. Texas
3. LSU
4. Penn State
5. Notre Dame
6. Virginia Tech
7. West Virginia
8. Ohio State
9. Auburn
10. Miami
11. UCLA
12. Louisville
13. Texas Christian
14. Fresno St.
15. Georgia
16. Oregon
17. Alabama
18. South Florida
19. Texas Tech
20. Georgia Tech
21. Iowa St.
22. Clemson
23. Florida
24. Iowa
25. Northwestern

[Huckleberry]

1 Texas (1)
2 Southern Cal (2)
3 Penn St. (3)
4 Ohio St. (5)
5 Virginia Tech (6)
6 Oregon (9)
7 Miami (FL) (4)
8 Notre Dame (7)
9 LSU (8)
10 West Virginia (14)
11 Auburn (11)
12 UCLA (15)
13 Fresno St. (16)
14 Texas Tech (21)
15 Wisconsin (17)
16 Michigan (13)
17 Alabama (10)
18 Louisville (20)
19 TCU (24)
20 Georgia Tech (--)
21 Georgia (19)
22 Boston College (--)
23 Northwestern (25)
24 Iowa (--)
25 Colorado (18)

[Joe]

1. Texas
2. USC
3. Penn State
4. LSU
5. Ohio State
6. Virginia Tech
7. Notre Dame
8. Oregon
9. Auburn
10. UCLA
11. Miami
12. West Virginia
13. Georgia
14. Fresno State
15. Alabama
16. Texas Tech
17. Michigan
18. Louisville
19. Wisconsin
20. TCU
21. South Florida
22. Northwestern
23. Georgia Tech
24. BC
25. Florida

[Young Drachma]

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Penn State
4. LSU
5. Virginia Tech
6. Notre Dame
7. Oregon
8. Ohio State
9. UCLA
10. Auburn
11. Miami
12. West Virginia
13. Alabama
14. Georgia
15. TCU
16. Fresno State
17. Texas Tech
18. Boston College
19. Florida
20. Louisville
21. Wisconsin
22. South Carolina
23. Georgia Tech
24. Michigan
25. Iowa

[General Mike]

1. Texas
2. USC
3. Penn State
4. LSU
5. Virginia Tech
6. Notre Dame
7. Ohio State
8. West Virginia
9. Oregon
10. Auburn
11. Georgia
12. Miami
13. TCU
14. UCLA
15. Alabama
16. Louisville
17. Texas A&M
18. Florida
19. Fresno State
20. Boston College
21. Clemson
22. Florida State
23. UTEP
24. Wisconsin
25. South Florida

[Cuckoo]

1. USC (1)
2. Texas (2)
3. LSU (4)
4. Virginia Tech (5)
5. Penn State (6)
6. Notre Dame (7)
7. Ohio State (9)
8. Oregon (10)
9. UCLA (11)
10. Miami (3)
11. West Virginia (12)
12. Auburn (13)
13. Georgia (14)
14. Alabama (6)
15. TCU (15)
16. Louisville (18)
17. Fresno State (17)
18. Florida (20)
19. Florida State (21)
20. UTEP (22)
21. Wisconsin (23)
22. Michigan (16)
23. Texas Tech (25)
24. Boston College (--)
25. Georgia Tech (--)

Dropped out: South Carolina, Oklahoma

[sooner333]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry

1 Texas (1)
2 Southern Cal (2)
3 Penn St. (3)
4 Ohio St. (5)
5 Virginia Tech (6)
6 Oregon (9)
7 Miami (FL) (4)
8 Notre Dame (7)
9 LSU (8)
10 West Virginia (14)
11 Auburn (11)
12 UCLA (15)
13 Fresno St. (16)
14 Texas Tech (21)
15 Wisconsin (17)
16 Michigan (13)
17 Alabama (10)
18 Louisville (20)
19 TCU (24)
20 Georgia Tech (--)
21 Georgia (19)
22 Boston College (--)
23 Northwestern (25)
24 Iowa (--)
25 Colorado (18)

Texas Tech sure proved a lot this weekend...at least the line judge who is from Lubbock did. Enough to move up seven spots

[Easy Mac]

1. USC (1)
2. Texas (2)
3. PSU (4)
4. LSU (5)
5. OSU (6)
6. VT (10)
7. West Virginia (12)
8. Oregon (13)
9. Miami (3)
10. Fresno State (14)
11. Notre Dame (9)
12. Auburn (8)
13. UCLA (16)
14. Alabama (7)
15. Georgia (11)
16. TCU (15)
17. FSU (24)
18. Louisville (19)
19. Wisconsin (22)
20. Florida (NR)
21. Georgia Tech (25)
22. Colorado (NR)
23. Iowa State (NR)
24. Boston College (NR)
25. Texas Tech (NR)

Dropped: UTEP (17), South Carolina (18), Minnesota (20), Michigan (21), Oklahoma (23)

[Huckleberry]

I used a new system that doesn't make sense until late in the season.

Sounds like you could use a tissue, though. I thought the Sooner nation was about "no excuses" these days. Oh wait. That only applied when you won. Sorry about that.

[digamma]

1. USC
Texas (tie)
3. LSU
4. Penn State
5. Virginia Tech
6. Ohio State
7. Miami
8. Auburn
9. Oregon
10. Notre Dame
11. West Virginia
12. UCLA
13. Alabama
14. Georgia
15. Louisville
16. Fresno State
17. TCU
18. Texas Tech
19. Georgia Tech
20. Wisconsin
21. Florida
22. Michigan
23. Florida State
24. Boston College
25. South Florida

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry

I thought the Sooner nation was about "no excuses" these days.

What the heck have you been smoking?

[sooner333]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry

I used a new system that doesn't make sense until late in the season.

Sounds like you could use a tissue, though. I thought the Sooner nation was about "no excuses" these days. Oh wait. That only applied when you won. Sorry about that.

I was really asking what proved that Texas Tech deserved to move up, not making excuses. I don't think that a controversial win proves seven points up in the standings. Thanks for answering though, I'm sure there is a logical reason in your system (no sarcasm).

I have no excuses for the fact that we are 6-4 right now, certainly not winning championships. However, I can also understand that its a young, rebuilding team with a bright future. To be honest, I left the Tech game really happy that it was a great game, and we came back when I had given up hope (down 17-7). We fought back and played with intensity, and I was happy to see that. In the stadium, I didn't get a chance to see the calls, and I was peeved that we let it slip away on defense, and yes, if we had taken care of business, we wouldn't have had to let it come down to that. It still feels bad to think you were cheated by the refs, not on a judgement penalty, but on a cut-and-dried call...and on a couple. I mean, at least we even have replay this year, imagine if we had lost on the catch that is hardly even a bobble, just a drop, since he didn't even have possession out of bounds.

The thing is, the important people are saying no excuses still. Stoops says he won't protest, we shoudl have done other things to not let it get to there. I don't think there's many people outside of Lubbock who would say the 4th and 3 catch wasn't a bad spot. But, that doesn't mean that I'm saying that we

We didn't have excuses in 1999 when we weren't winning all of our games (and we had the same record heading into the Bedlam game). I don't think we are making excuses now. Sometimes calls go against you and it sucks...yes, I think we should have won the game, yes I think we were and are the better team, but we didn't, so we're 6-4. I don't think we're making excuses for the game, just venting about the call. We could have def. done other things to win that game, especially late.

[bronconick]

After a missed week


1. Texas
2. USC
3. LSU
4. Penn State
5. Virginia Tech
6. Ohio State
7. Notre Dame
8. Oregon
9. UCLA
10. Auburn
11. Miami
12. Georgia
13. West Virginia
14. TCU
15. Alabama
16. Texas Tech
17. Louisville
18. Fresno State
19. Georgia Tech
20. Florida
21. Boston College
22. Clemson
23. Michigan
24. South Carolina
25. Florida State

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by sooner333

Texas Tech sure proved a lot this weekend...at least the line judge who is from Lubbock did. Enough to move up seven spots

It's hard not to bump them up with a 9-2 record after all those teams in the middle clump losing this week.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by dangarion

It's hard not to bump them up with a 9-2 record after all those teams in the middle clump losing this week.

Yep. I'm not typically one to cry foul with the refs. I come from the philosophy that you get some, you lose some as far as calls. And even though I think that was one of the most unfairly called games in a long time, and TT did not really win that game, the records are official regardless of what replays show.

I moved TT up in my rankings as well. I don't think they're as good as their record suggests, but I can't really argue that they don't deserve to be ranked.

[VPI97]

1. Texas (1)
2. USC (2)
3. LSU (4)
4. Virginia Tech (5)
5. Penn State (6)
6. Ohio State (7)
7. Miami (3)
8. Auburn (9)
9. West Virginia (10)
10. Georgia (11)
11. Notre Dame (12)
12. Oregon (14)
13. UCLA (13)
14. Alabama (8)
15. Florida (15)
16. Louisville (16)
17. Florida State (17)
18. Fresno State (19)
19. TCU (18)
20. Wisconsin (21)
21. Boston College (24)
22. Georgia Tech (--)
23. Clemson (--)
24. Michigan (20)
25. Texas Tech (--)

Dropped: UTEP (22), South Carolina (23), Virginia (25)

[cartman]

Here's the Top 25 from solecismic.com:

1. Southern California
2. Penn State
3. Texas
4. Oregon
5. Virginia Tech
6. Georgia Tech
7. Ohio State
8. Miami, Florida
9. UCLA
10. Georgia
11. Iowa State
12. Texas Tech
13. Notre Dame
14. Wisconsin
15. North Carolina
16. Louisiana State
17. Florida State
18. Minnesota
19. Boston College
20. Auburn
21. Stanford
22. Alabama
23. Iowa
24. West Virginia
25. Louisville

[cartman]

Here's my Top 25:

1. Texas
2. USC
3. Penn State
4. LSU
5. Oregon
6. Virginia Tech
7. Ohio State
8. Notre Dame
9. Auburn
10. Georgia
11. Miami
12. TCU
13. West Virginia
14. UCLA
15. Alabama
16. Louisville
17. Florida
18. Texas Tech
19. Boston College
20. South Florida
21. Florida State
22. Georgia Tech
23. Wisconsin
24. Clemson
25. Michigan

[cartman]

3X Dola:

I might not get the results posted until Friday morning US time. I'm switching hotels to be closer the client site, and I'm not sure if it has internet access. But I will be back in this hotel Friday night, so for sure I can post them then.

[Glengoyne]

You guys are completely dissing Fresno State. Cartman doesn't even list them.

I think that is the first time I've ever typed the "word" Dissing. Please let me know if that is the correct usage.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

You guys are completely dissing Fresno State. Cartman doesn't even list them.

I think that is the first time I've ever typed the "word" Dissing. Please let me know if that is the correct usage.

They were the first team to miss the cut on my list, so they are #26 in my book. I did have them ranked last week. My reasoning for dropping them is that anytime you score 42 points you should win the game, even against the #1 team in the rankings. If it had been a 24-21 game, I'd probably still have them ranked this week. But at 8-2, I'm sure they will be back in my poll if they win their next game.

[Swaggs]

Isn't the solecismic.com poll supposed to become more effective as the season wears on?

UNC is probably my second favorite team in college football, but at 5-5, I have trouble figuring how they are the 15th best team in the country. They lost to a 2-loss Louville team by about 50 points, but are still 9 spots ahead of them.

Georgia Tech at #6, Stanford at #21, and an overall low rating or SEC teams also seem way off.

[cartman]

Bump...

Remember, votes are due in tonight by 6pm central. (Wednesday night, in case it is still Tuesday night where you are)

[Sublime 2]

sorry i missed last week had a couple exams to study for

1. Texas
2. USC
3. LSU
4. Penn State
5. Oregon
6. Virginia Tech
7. Ohio State
8. Notre Dame
9. Auburn
10. Georgia
11. Miami
12. TCU
13. UCLA
14. Louisville
15. Alabama
16. West Virginia
17. Florida
18. Texas Tech
19. Boston College
20. South Florida
21. Fresno State
22. Georgia Tech
23. Wisconsin
24. Florida State
25. Michigan

[sooner333]

1. Texas (1)
2. USC (2)
3. Penn State (4)
4. LSU (5)
5. Ohio State (6)
6. Oregon (8)
7. Virginia Tech (7)
8. Miami (3)
9. Auburn (14)
10. West Virginia (10)
11. Notre Dame (11)
12. TCU (12)
13. UCLA (15)
14. Alabama (9)
15. Florida (13)
16. Georgia (16)
17. Wisconsin (21)
18. Iowa State (23)
19. Freno State (19)
20. Iowa (25)
21. Michigan (18)
22. Oklahoma (18)
23. Colorado (NR)
24. Texas Tech (24)
25. Georgia Tech (NR)

Dropped Out
South Carolina (20)
UTEP (24)

[kingfc22]

1. USC (1)
2. Texas (2)
3. LSU (4)
4. Penn St. (5)
5. Notre Dame (6)
6. Auburn (11)
7. Virginia Tech (8
8. Ohio St. (9)
9. Oregon (10)
10. Miami (3)
11. UCLA (12)
12. West Virginia (13)
13. Georgia (14)
14. Fresno St. (17)
15. Alabama (7)
16. TCU (15)
18. Louisville (18)
19. Florida (22)
20. Wisconsin (23)
21. Boston College (24)
22. Texas Tech (20)
23. Georgia Tech (--)
24. Michigan (16)
25. Iowa St. (25)


Dropped from poll:
UTEP (19)
South Carolina (21)

[SnDvls]

1 USC
2 Texas
3 LSU
4 Penn St.
5 Oregon
6 Virginia Tech
7 West Virginia
8 UCLA
9 Miami, Fl
10 Georgia
11 Note Dame
12 Ohio St
13 Auburn
14 TCU
15 Alabama
16 Louisville
17 Texas Tech
18 Fresno St
19 Florida St
20 Florida
21 UTEP
22 Wisconsin
23 Boston College
24 South Carolina
25 Michigan

[JeeberD]

1. USC (1)
2. Texas (2)
3. LSU (5)
4. Notre Dame (4)
5. Virginia Tech (6)
6. Ohio State (7)
7. Penn State (8)
8. Oregon (9)
9. Miami (Fl) (3)
10. West Virginia (10)
11. Auburn (15)
12. UCLA (12)
13. Georgia (13)
14. TCU (14)
15. Fresno State (16)
16. Alabama (11)
17. Florida (17)
18. Louisville (20)
19. Texas Tech (22)
20. Florida State (23)
21. Georgia Tech (-)
22. Michigan (19)
23. Boston College (23)
24. UTEP (18)
25. Wisconsin (25)

Dropped out: South Carolina (21)

[cartman]

I'm compiling the poll now. I hope to have it posted before I have to leave for the client site.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by cartman

I'm compiling the poll now. I hope to have it posted before I have to leave for the client site.

Slacker.