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Old 10-24-2005, 08:43 PM   #1
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Selig to force roof open

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HOUSTON -- Mankind's desire for shelter goes back to the days of the cave men. But Major League Baseball is sending signals it thinks the Houston Astros' desire for a roof over their heads has gone a little too far.

So commissioner Bud Selig is expected to decide personally that the roof of Minute Maid Park should be open for Game 3 of the World Series on Tuesday night.

The Astros have kept the retractable roof shut tight for all five of their postseason games over the first two rounds. But during the World Series, it's MLB's call. And MLB officials have told the Astros they prefer the great outdoors -- tropical storms permitting.

"That decision won't be made until [Tuesday]," MLB spokesman Pat Courtney said during Monday's off-day workouts. "We want to take into account what the weather conditions will be at the time. And we want to look into past practices -- what's normally happened in the past. Our understanding is that the policy has been that when it's 80 degrees and warmer, the roof is closed. But when it's cooler, it's open."

The Astros, however, have had a different policy in October: When it's hot, the roof is closed. When it's cold, the roof is closed. And when it's in between, the roof is closed. To their credit, though, they haven't even tried to pretend that was done for any reason other than to increase their home-field advantage.

"Bottom line," said manager Phil Garner on Monday, "is that I think that with it closed, it does generate a lot of noise and it's a lot of fun. And I think that we play for that. We play for that excitement, and that noise -- it helps a little bit."

So how much has it helped? The Astros had the second-best home record in the sport (53-28) this year, trailing only Boston. And they have gone 4-1 at home during this postseason, losing only the game in which Brad Lidge allowed that game-winning two-out homer in the ninth to Albert Pujols in the NLCS.

But their winning percentage when the roof is open is only .577 (15-11) -- versus .684 (39-18) when it's closed (counting the postseason). (There were two other games this year in which the roof was opened during the late innings.)

The roof could wind up staying closed Tuesday for strictly meteorological reasons, however. The weather forecast predicts highs in the lower 70s, but lows in the mid-40s -- which is practically sub-arctic by Houston standards. Warmer conditions are expected for Games 4 and 5. So the whole debate could begin again.

The last time a retractable dome was involved in the World Series, MLB ordered the Diamondbacks to open their roof for all four games in 2001. But Courtney said Selig actually has no particular preference -- other than for consistency.

"Bud just wants to make sure there's a standard of practice involved," Courtney said, "so that what we've done in the past is done now and we're not breaking new ground."

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What's the point of playing at home if you can't use every advatage possible. What's next Bud? Are we going to have nuetral sites for the World Series next? What a moron.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:46 PM   #2
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Good for Selig. Keep the roof open during the World Series. Let's see the breath of the players and the good weather shine through.

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What's the point of playing at home if you can't use every advatage possible.
By that logic, lets have the outfield walls on grooves and moving it closer for the home team's batting innings?!
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:49 PM   #3
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By that logic, lets have the outfield walls on grooves and moving it closer for the home team's batting innings?!

Obviously that is not my point. But if Houston has a retractable roof and they play better with it closed, then they should be able to do what they want.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:52 PM   #4
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:53 PM   #5
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Obviously that is not my point. But if Houston has a retractable roof and they play better with it closed, then they should be able to do what they want.
Not when you get to the WS, which is the biggest commerical the MLB has. They've established this rule and have used it before, so Houston can't really whine about it.

Closing the roof to increase noise is just cheap. Just as bad as overwatering the basepaths to slow down the other team. There is home field advantage and then there is cheap shit.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:56 PM   #6
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Closing the roof to increase noise is just cheap. Just as bad as overwatering the basepaths to slow down the other team. There is home field advantage and then there is cheap shit.

So would you consider ND not cutting the grass vs. USC as cheap shit or a smart move to even out a speed disadvantage that they were facing?
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:57 PM   #7
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So would you consider ND not cutting the grass vs. USC as cheap shit or a smart move to even out a speed disadvantage that they were facing?
VERY cheap ass move. I frown all such attempts at "home field advantage".
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:02 PM   #8
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By that logic, lets have the outfield walls on grooves and moving it closer for the home team's batting innings?!

While I agree with you, not sure I can defend major league baseball on this one. There is a fucking hill and flagpole in the middle of god damned center field! Why not have a set of monkey bars in left field and a dog running around at first place?
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:04 PM   #9
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Why not have a set of monkey bars in left field and a dog running around at first [base]?

That would ROCK.
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:06 PM   #10
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If the Astros wanted to play with the roof closed bad enough, I'm sure a friendly mechanic could do a nice enough hack job on the roof that would take a few weeks to repair. Does Bud still have the political capital to cancel a second World Series by calling two forfeits?
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:15 PM   #11
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:44 PM   #12
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Selig is a tool, but, I don't think it will make a difference whether the roof is open or not, Houston should play well at home either way.
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