"Sinatra Has A Cold"

JonInMiddleGA · 10-18-2005, 11:07 PM

http://www.sinatraarchive.com/tis/cold1.html

Yeah, I know this is a pretty random thing to post & I really don't know why I'm starting a thread on it ... but it's such a damned good read nearly 40 years after it was first published that I figured I ought to.

If you've never read it, go do so now.
If you haven't read it in a long while, read it again & be reminded how good it is.
If you've read in many times, or read it recently, feel free to indulge in the almost inevitable discussion about "The New Journalism" or whatever floats your boat.

I'm just glad I read it tonight, most fun I've had reading anything in quite a while.

NoMyths · 10-19-2005, 12:06 AM

Man, what a piece. Wonderful writing.

Thanks for posting it.

KevinNU7 · 10-19-2005, 12:17 PM

that was boring

NoMyths · 10-19-2005, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNU7

that was boring

[insert appropriate comment about kids today and their microscopic attention spans, followed by some reasoned analysis of how this doesn't only affect concentration but seems to have a significant effect on one's ability to appreciate greatness in any artistic or scientific achievement of complexity]

rkmsuf · 10-19-2005, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths

[insert appropriate comment about kids today and their microscopic attention spans, followed by some reasoned analysis of how this doesn't only affect concentration but seems to have a significant effect on one's ability to appreciate greatness in any artistic or scientific achievement of complexity]

heh, I was about to write:

Too.Damn.Long.

cuervo72 · 10-19-2005, 12:23 PM

That article is so Gay.

NoMyths · 10-19-2005, 12:29 PM

As Roger Ebert says, no good movie is too long and no bad movie is too short.

I hear the complaint about length all of the time from my students, and almost invariably it translates to problems with their own attention spans rather than something intrinsic to the work. I wish Quik would address this as well, because Aristotle wrote about this: a work needs a certain magnitude to be great, and he meant length as well as subject.

NoMyths · 10-19-2005, 12:31 PM

dola...

I mean, hell, anything that Jon would post that would get me not only agreeing with him but thanking him has to be pretty effing miraculous, no?

ISiddiqui · 10-19-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNU7

that was boring

Ditto

KevinNU7 · 10-19-2005, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMyths

[insert appropriate comment about kids today and their microscopic attention spans, followed by some reasoned analysis of how this doesn't only affect concentration but seems to have a significant effect on one's ability to appreciate greatness in any artistic or scientific achievement of complexity]

I didn't say it was too long and I couldn't concentrate. Like I'm some 15 ear old kid going through puberty. I'm a college educated adult, I do not have a microscopic attention span. I just said it was boring. The reason it was boring is because it was on a topic I could care less about and it seemed to me the writer was more interested in writing as many words as possible without saying much rather then actually writing about something.

NoMyths · 10-19-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNU7

I didn't say it was too long and I couldn't concentrate. Like I'm some 15 ear old kid going through puberty. I'm a college educated adult, I do not have a microscopic attention span. I just said it was boring. The reason it was boring is because it was on a topic I could care less about and it seemed to me the write was more interested in writing as many words as possible without say much rather then actually writing about something.

Fair enough. There is of course a difference between an article being boring and a reader being uninterested in it, but I doubt that distinction is a common one in conversation.

st.cronin · 10-19-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

That article is so Gay.

solid, tight, sweet

cuervo72 · 10-19-2005, 01:15 PM

Halfway through...very enjoyable article. Had to stop to highlight a line that jumped out at me:

Quote:

his valet, George Jacobs, a handsome Negro who, when entertaining girls in his apartment, plays records by Ray Charles

Something that was nothing out of the ordinary for 1966, but seems quite out of place by today's standards.

Maple Leafs · 10-19-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Something that was nothing out of the ordinary for 1966, but seems quite out of place by today's standards.

Actually, Ray Charles is still very popular. They recently made a movie about him.

10-19-2005, 12:17 PM	#3
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	that was boring __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

10-19-2005, 12:23 PM	#6
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	That article is so Gay. __________________ null

10-19-2005, 12:06 AM	#2
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	Man, what a piece. Wonderful writing. Thanks for posting it.

10-19-2005, 12:29 PM	#7
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	As Roger Ebert says, no good movie is too long and no bad movie is too short. I hear the complaint about length all of the time from my students, and almost invariably it translates to problems with their own attention spans rather than something intrinsic to the work. I wish Quik would address this as well, because Aristotle wrote about this: a work needs a certain magnitude to be great, and he meant length as well as subject.

10-19-2005, 12:31 PM	#8
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	dola... I mean, hell, anything that Jon would post that would get me not only agreeing with him but thanking him has to be pretty effing miraculous, no?

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