Best Sports Rivals

Galaxy · 07-19-2005, 12:08 AM

With so many great rivals in the global sporting world, what would you rank as your top ten best sport rivalaries. The list includes all rivals in the world, regardless of sport, and can include international rivals (USA-Canada, Football ect.-example). I believe that a great rival needs to consist of a few things: 1) It needs to have a history of passion and "hate" towards each other, 2) A history and potential of battling over trophies, promotion/playoff/qualiflying sports, ect. 3) A rival needs to capture that sports attention through the entire fanbase of that sport (for example-the Subway Series in my view doesn't capture the baseball fanbase outside of NY).

Raiders Army · 07-19-2005, 05:57 AM

USA-Russia: Cold War

1. Definitely some hate there...have you seen Rocky IV or Rambo II?
2. History of battling over Third World Countries
3. Captured the attention of the world.

Raiders Army · 07-19-2005, 06:01 AM

Scooby Doo-Yogi Bear-Rottens: Laff-a-lympics

1. Definitely some hate as well, Hanna Barbara took all of the cartoons and put them against each other and their bad guys
2. History of battling over the girl, treasure, Grape Ape, and the trophy at the end of each episode.
3. Pretty much all of the important cartoons were there.

Johnny93g · 07-19-2005, 08:52 AM

Off the top of my head

Leafs/Senators
Leafs/Habs
Canada/Russia hockey
Canada/USA- anything we are good enough to compete with them
Indiana/Kentucky NCAA basketball
Yankees/Red Sox
USA/world- at anything the USA is favoured to win
Oilers/Flames

stkelly52 · 07-19-2005, 10:16 AM

My first thought would be Michigan/Ohio State

rkmsuf · 07-19-2005, 10:18 AM

Coke and Pepsi.

Cuckoo · 07-19-2005, 10:19 AM

Well here are the ones as far as I'm concerned.

OU/Texas
Cowboys/Redskins
Cubs/Cardinals

ColtCrazy · 07-19-2005, 10:21 AM

Just ones that pop into my head

NCAA basketball Indiana-Kentucky I live in the middle of it, it's all that matters in the world the week leading up to it
NCAA football Michigan-Ohio St.
NFL Packers-Bears
Premiership Aresenal-Man U I'm living over here this summer, just amazes me how every small sports shop has a shirt for one, if not both, of these clubs. Chelsea's gaining, but still has a way to go.

Castlerock · 07-19-2005, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

3) A rival needs to capture that sports attention through the entire fanbase of that sport (for example-the Subway Series in my view doesn't capture the baseball fanbase outside of NY).

I think this is an unfortunate qualification. Off the top of my head, I can't really think of any rivalry that can meet this.

Yankees / Red Sox is a great rivalry but does it capture the baseball fanbase outside of NY and Boston? Not really.

Maple Leafs · 07-19-2005, 10:32 AM

Hockey rivalries:

Leafs/Habs
Leafs/Wings
Wings/Avs
Oilers/Flames
Habs/Bruins
USA/Canda
USA/USSR

And the best of all time... Canada/USSR.

Neon_Chaos · 07-19-2005, 10:36 AM

Water and Gatorade

Warhammer · 07-19-2005, 10:45 AM

EASY!

Hartford vs. West Virginia in the Imperial Football League. Two seasons, two West Virginia division titles, Harford has finished a total of 1-1/2 games behind WVa over that time frame and has a 3-2 record against them including playoff games (2-2 in regular season games). To make things even more exciting, as of last year both teams were in the top 4/5 in the IFL for winning percentage.

GreenMonster · 07-19-2005, 10:51 AM

Yanks/Sox

The last 2 playoffs series between the 2 has been must see TV baseball.. That doesn't happen every year but it will if the Yanks and Sox hook up again.

Samdari · 07-19-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

OU/Texas

Sorry, cannot be a "biggest" rivalry when neither team considers the other its biggest rival.

Izulde · 07-19-2005, 10:55 AM

University of Minnesota/University of Wisconsin

Minneapolis/St. Paul and Madison both get really geared up for the Paul Bunyan game in football every fall and the hatred on both sides for the other is as bad as Bears-Packers.

Interesting though that the rivalry doesn't carry over to the Vikings-Packers axis, maybe because Packers-Bears is so firmly entrenched.

Cuckoo · 07-19-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

Sorry, cannot be a "biggest" rivalry when neither team considers the other its biggest rival.

Really? I don't know about Texas, but you tell me who OU would consider their biggest rivals if not Texas. OSU? Nope. Until recently, OSU hasn't put up much of a fight. Nebraska? Maybe in the 80's, but not anymore. In the current Big 12, Texas is definitely OU's biggest rival.

MIJB#19 · 07-19-2005, 11:25 AM

Dutch soccer: Ajax-Feyenoord
The Classic. The True Classic. Rivalry at it's best and worst. People all over the country teasing their best friends because they root for the otherside from the week before the game until weeks or monthst after the game. The only thing missing in this rivalry is a the Holland vs. the rest of the country element (read: the reigning west versus the north, east, south) as both teams are from Holland. The center of the rivalry is the centuries old rivalry between Amsterdam (Ajax' city) and Rotterdam (Feyenoord's city) to become the world's leading harbour. The one thing that captures the essence of the rivalry the best is probably a random conversation between 8 to 10yo boys who meet for the first time. The bully of the two will ask: "Ajax or Feyenoord?" and giving the wrong answer can give you some serious problems. It's almost like Bush's "with us or against us" and the "I don't like soccer" answer is not an option. The lowlight of the rivalry was an arranged battle (yes, battle) between the core of the supporters groups in the graslands of Beverwijk. The leader of the Ajax group was killed in a fashion you usually only see in '70s musicals about gangs in the USA. Thank the higher powers of life he was the only victim that day.

Travis · 07-19-2005, 12:17 PM

For those that said Oilers/Flames, I think you have to extend the rivalry to simply Edmonton/Calgary. Anytime those two match up (no matter the sport or competition), especially in CFL and NHL, the hate and passion is there.

BreizhManu · 07-19-2005, 12:58 PM

In soccer :

Manchester Utd - Manchester City
Manchester Utd - Arsenal
Liverpool - Everton
Arsenal - Tottenham
Chelsea - Arsenal

Ajax - Feyenoord

Inter - AC Milan
AS Roma - Lazio
Lazio - Juve

Marseille - PSG

Real Madrid - Barca
Real Madrid - Atletico Madrid
Real Sociedad - Athletic Bilbao

Porto - Benfica

Olympiakos - Panathinaikos

Galatasaray - Fenerbache

Galaxy · 07-19-2005, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Dutch soccer: Ajax-Feyenoord
The Classic. The True Classic. Rivalry at it's best and worst. People all over the country teasing their best friends because they root for the otherside from the week before the game until weeks or monthst after the game. The only thing missing in this rivalry is a the Holland vs. the rest of the country element (read: the reigning west versus the north, east, south) as both teams are from Holland. The center of the rivalry is the centuries old rivalry between Amsterdam (Ajax' city) and Rotterdam (Feyenoord's city) to become the world's leading harbour. The one thing that captures the essence of the rivalry the best is probably a random conversation between 8 to 10yo boys who meet for the first time. The bully of the two will ask: "Ajax or Feyenoord?" and giving the wrong answer can give you some serious problems. It's almost like Bush's "with us or against us" and the "I don't like soccer" answer is not an option. The lowlight of the rivalry was an arranged battle (yes, battle) between the core of the supporters groups in the graslands of Beverwijk. The leader of the Ajax group was killed in a fashion you usually only see in '70s musicals about gangs in the USA. Thank the higher powers of life he was the only victim that day.

Pretty cool. On the international front, sounds like Holland-Germany and Brazil-Argentina are top rivals.

Greyroofoo · 07-19-2005, 01:37 PM

I gotta say michigan and ohio state just because I lived on the border

Koryo · 07-19-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BreizhManu

In soccer :

Manchester Utd - Manchester City
Manchester Utd - Arsenal
Liverpool - Everton
Arsenal - Tottenham
Chelsea - Arsenal

Ajax - Feyenoord

Inter - AC Milan
AS Roma - Lazio
Lazio - Juve

Marseille - PSG

Real Madrid - Barca
Real Madrid - Atletico Madrid
Real Sociedad - Athletic Bilbao

Porto - Benfica

Olympiakos - Panathinaikos

Galatasaray - Fenerbache

Celtic - Rangers tops most of these imo.

In American football, Browns - Steelers is a favorite of mine.

Radii · 07-19-2005, 02:24 PM

UNC-Duke basketball (why else would I be in this thread?)

but while i'm here:

Army/Navy
Auburn/Alabama
Georgia/Georgia Tech
Georgia/Florida

If they could both stop sucking for a little while, Cowboys/Redskins could be good again. For now though, all I can think about when I think Cowboys/Redskins is Dennis Miller's Prevent Offense comment in that horrible,horrible MNF game.

Karlifornia · 07-19-2005, 02:52 PM

49ers/Cowboys was the greatest rivalry of the 90's....football-wise, anyway. I have never hated a team or it's fans more than the Cowboys.

albionmoonlight · 07-19-2005, 03:03 PM

Duke/UNC

Crapshoot · 07-19-2005, 03:07 PM

Celtic-Rangers is pure hate...

India-Pakistan in cricket is pretty unmatched.

rkmsuf · 07-19-2005, 03:08 PM

Celtics - Rangers?

Paul Pierce can't even skate.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-19-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Celtics - Rangers?

Paul Pierce can't even skate.

Or hit a fastball.

korme · 07-19-2005, 03:13 PM

On a broader scale:

MLB-Yankees/Red Sox
NFL-Raiders/Chiefs
NBA-Lakers/Celtics

Locally:

College football-Ohio State/Michigan
College basketball-Cincinnati/Xavier
NFL-Bengals/Browns, to a lesser extent Bengals/Steelers and also Bengals/Ravens (old Browns)

rkmsuf · 07-19-2005, 03:15 PM

Quote:

NBA-Lakers/Celtics

Kareem is not walking through that door. James Worthy is not walking through that door.

Crapshoot · 07-19-2005, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

On a broader scale:

MLB-Yankees/Red Sox
NFL-Raiders/Chiefs
NBA-Lakers/Celtics

Locally:

College football-Ohio State/Michigan
College basketball-Cincinnati/Xavier
NFL-Bengals/Browns, to a lesser extent Bengals/Steelers and also Bengals/Ravens (old Browns)

dude, Yankees-Red Sox have nothing on about 10 of those sporting rivalries mentioned. American, yes- international, no doubt.

korme · 07-19-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Kareem is not walking through that door. James Worthy is not walking through that door.

D00d. Kwame Brown vs. Kendrick Perkins is the matchup we have all been waiting for.

korme · 07-19-2005, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

dude, Yankees-Red Sox have nothing on about 10 of those sporting rivalries mentioned. American, yes- international, no doubt.

I am going to believe you made a mistake in this sentence and unintentionally put "no doubt", instead of "no", otherwise you are contradicting yourself.

I'm American. I am listing the rivalries that have an influence on me. Anything international doesn't, sorry.

VPI97 · 07-19-2005, 03:31 PM

penis vs. vagina

global interest in that one

MIJB#19 · 07-19-2005, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koryo

Celtic - Rangers tops most of these imo.

In American football, Browns - Steelers is a favorite of mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Celtic-Rangers is pure hate...

Celtic - Rangers is local derby and is in a joke of a soccer league, they play that game 7 times a season. Still, that game is dreaded in hatred and sipped in a juice of religous sentiments more than any other soccer game and people in Northern Ireland made that game a symbol of their civil war, despite the fact that Celtic and Rangers are Scottish.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

India-Pakistan in cricket is pretty unmatched.

Forget soccer, forget baseball, forget college football; we got a winner here.

Neuqua · 07-19-2005, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

India-Pakistan in cricket is pretty unmatched.

Oh yeah.

07-19-2005, 08:52 AM	#4
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07-19-2005, 10:32 AM	#10
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07-19-2005, 05:57 AM	#2
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	USA-Russia: Cold War 1. Definitely some hate there...have you seen Rocky IV or Rambo II? 2. History of battling over Third World Countries 3. Captured the attention of the world.

07-19-2005, 06:01 AM	#3
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Scooby Doo-Yogi Bear-Rottens: Laff-a-lympics 1. Definitely some hate as well, Hanna Barbara took all of the cartoons and put them against each other and their bad guys 2. History of battling over the girl, treasure, Grape Ape, and the trophy at the end of each episode. 3. Pretty much all of the important cartoons were there.

07-19-2005, 10:21 AM	#8
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Just ones that pop into my head NCAA basketball Indiana-Kentucky I live in the middle of it, it's all that matters in the world the week leading up to it NCAA football Michigan-Ohio St. NFL Packers-Bears Premiership Aresenal-Man U I'm living over here this summer, just amazes me how every small sports shop has a shirt for one, if not both, of these clubs. Chelsea's gaining, but still has a way to go.

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07-19-2005, 10:45 AM	#12
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	EASY! Hartford vs. West Virginia in the Imperial Football League. Two seasons, two West Virginia division titles, Harford has finished a total of 1-1/2 games behind WVa over that time frame and has a 3-2 record against them including playoff games (2-2 in regular season games). To make things even more exciting, as of last year both teams were in the top 4/5 in the IFL for winning percentage.

07-19-2005, 10:51 AM	#13
GreenMonster High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2005	Yanks/Sox The last 2 playoffs series between the 2 has been must see TV baseball.. That doesn't happen every year but it will if the Yanks and Sox hook up again.

07-19-2005, 10:55 AM	#15
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MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Dutch soccer: Ajax-Feyenoord The Classic. The True Classic. Rivalry at it's best and worst. People all over the country teasing their best friends because they root for the otherside from the week before the game until weeks or monthst after the game. The only thing missing in this rivalry is a the Holland vs. the rest of the country element (read: the reigning west versus the north, east, south) as both teams are from Holland. The center of the rivalry is the centuries old rivalry between Amsterdam (Ajax' city) and Rotterdam (Feyenoord's city) to become the world's leading harbour. The one thing that captures the essence of the rivalry the best is probably a random conversation between 8 to 10yo boys who meet for the first time. The bully of the two will ask: "Ajax or Feyenoord?" and giving the wrong answer can give you some serious problems. It's almost like Bush's "with us or against us" and the "I don't like soccer" answer is not an option. The lowlight of the rivalry was an arranged battle (yes, battle) between the core of the supporters groups in the graslands of Beverwijk. The leader of the Ajax group was killed in a fashion you usually only see in '70s musicals about gangs in the USA. Thank the higher powers of life he was the only victim that day. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

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Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	For those that said Oilers/Flames, I think you have to extend the rivalry to simply Edmonton/Calgary. Anytime those two match up (no matter the sport or competition), especially in CFL and NHL, the hate and passion is there.

07-19-2005, 12:58 PM	#19
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	In soccer : Manchester Utd - Manchester City Manchester Utd - Arsenal Liverpool - Everton Arsenal - Tottenham Chelsea - Arsenal Ajax - Feyenoord Inter - AC Milan AS Roma - Lazio Lazio - Juve Marseille - PSG Real Madrid - Barca Real Madrid - Atletico Madrid Real Sociedad - Athletic Bilbao Porto - Benfica Olympiakos - Panathinaikos Galatasaray - Fenerbache

07-19-2005, 01:37 PM	#21
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	I gotta say michigan and ohio state just because I lived on the border

07-19-2005, 02:24 PM	#23
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	UNC-Duke basketball (why else would I be in this thread?) but while i'm here: Army/Navy Auburn/Alabama Georgia/Georgia Tech Georgia/Florida If they could both stop sucking for a little while, Cowboys/Redskins could be good again. For now though, all I can think about when I think Cowboys/Redskins is Dennis Miller's Prevent Offense comment in that horrible,horrible MNF game.

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Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Celtic-Rangers is pure hate... India-Pakistan in cricket is pretty unmatched.

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