Wie has the lead at US Womens Open

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 03:45 PM

She's poised to be in the final group tomorrow, as she was today.

If she wins, a lot of critics are going to say "see, that's why she needs to play with women." Then she'll play against men and all the cynics will hope she fails then too. I think if she's got the lead going into tomorrow, that a meltdown is unlikely.

I don't know if she'd come back from a meltdown today. Seems though most of other girls are playing poorly enough to give her cushion to just play her game.

Oh and the galleries are so much quieter and smaller at these women's events it seems. Though it looks like a large crowd there. They're just not as rowdy as I've seen on the mens' tour of late.

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 03:46 PM

Annika is six strokes back at +6.

Kodos · 06-25-2005, 03:55 PM

"We has the lead"? What TERRIBLE English...

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 03:56 PM

hahaha..

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2005, 03:57 PM

That was quite the drive she just had.

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 03:58 PM

That shot she just hit to get close to the green was nice. She's going to be hard to beat. Unless someone can string together a streak like Karen Stupples did there with 6 consecutive birdies or something like that.

Ryan S · 06-25-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I think if she's got the lead going into tomorrow, that a meltdown is unlikely

She will be stepping into unknown territory since she has never won anything at this level, and this is a little bigger than a regular LPGA event. We have no idea how she will react. The one thing I will say is that a meltdown would be far more likely to occur in this case than to a player like Goosen last week, and we all know what happened there.

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

She will be stepping into unknown territory since she has never won anything at this level, and this is a little bigger than a regular LPGA event. We have no idea how she will react. The one thing I will say is that a meltdown would be far more likely to occur in this case than to a player like Goosen last week, and we all know what happened there.

True that. True that.

My only thing was thinking that, she's not going to have any pressure. Everyone expects her to fail. So I could see her going out there with her "youthful inexperience" and just playing the round like she would. Or that she'll be Tigeresque and will just go out there and dominate.

I do agree that this is where if she doesn't win, all that lack of winning experience will come into play, though she's obviously been close at majors before and has held up. She hasn't played in a final group at a major since she was 13 though.

If nothing else, it'll be interesting to watch. I think she'll have had a successful week if she holds off Paula Creamer (whose a pro now) and wins top amateur medalist honours over Morgan Pressel, who wants to beat Michelle Wie really bad.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2005, 04:05 PM

This is my first time watching Women's Golf in a very long time (I'm interested in seeing how Wie reacts to the pressure.) I'm pleasantly surprised to see quite a few attractive ladies are in this tournament.

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 04:05 PM

Paula Creamer looks determined. I wonder if one of the young guns or if one of the no-names will end up claiming this in the end.

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

This is my first time watching Women's Golf in a very long time (I'm interested in seeing how Wie reacts to the pressure.) I'm pleasantly surprised to see quite a few attractive ladies are in this tournament.

Agreed. Same here. It's weird they play two majors separated from two weeks of each other. Seems wacky.

KWhit · 06-25-2005, 04:11 PM

I don't remember how old Wie is. Is it bad that I'm thinking impure thoughts about her?

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I don't remember how old Wie is. Is it bad that I'm thinking impure thoughts about her?

15

Not quite legal in Hawaii...

But since they're playing in Colorado....it is.

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 04:17 PM

It's so weird with these younger players in these tournaments, because they have nothing to say about them. So they have to say things like "did you know what she got on her SAT?"

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2005, 04:19 PM

Wie certainly looks older than 15. I can't believe she is 6'2" or 6'3" at 15. Didn't she turn 15 fairly recently?

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 04:20 PM

16 in October (no I didn't know. I googled it..)

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 04:21 PM

Oops. Looks like she's gonna bogey on this hole.

KWhit · 06-25-2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

15

Not quite legal in Hawaii...

But since they're playing in Colorado....it is.

Oh.

Well scratch what I said then.

Young Drachma · 06-25-2005, 05:02 PM

Oh, here's something interesting I found on the LPGA site.

http://www.lpga.com/entertainment_content.aspx?pid=4107

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According to the June 15, 2005, Sports Business Daily, 15-year-old amateur phenom Michelle Wie has worn both Nike and adidas apparel this season. As an amateur golfer she is allowed to accept free equipment and apparel but is not allowed to be paid by sponsors, Some have speculated that when she does turn pro, Wie will be able to command around $15M annually in endorsement income. With Wie squarely in the sights of potential sponsors -– particularly Nike and adidas — THE DAILY lists the apparel and footwear she wore at the LPGA's second major of the year, the McDonald's LPGA Championship presented by Coca-Cola, where she placed second to Annika Sorenstam.

I didn't realize they got to get free equipment and clothes. I mean, it makes sense. I just didn't realize it, but figured there had to be some provisions for such things. I wonder if they can help with her other expenses too or if that's solely the province of her parents or if they can get money and use it on her.

Rockstar · 06-25-2005, 06:12 PM

I had to double take when I saw the title of the post. At first glance I thought it read "Wife has the lead at US Open". I thought lucky, rich bastard.

Ragone · 06-25-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

15

Not quite legal in Hawaii...

But since they're playing in Colorado....it is.

That explains why i saw kobe bryant in the gallery

Senator · 06-25-2005, 09:49 PM

Angela Stanford is my neighbor. GO! GO! GO!

JeffNights · 06-25-2005, 11:09 PM

I hope Wie wins....She seems like a nice young lady.

AND hopefully with the victory pheraps a nice rivalry will form between her and sorenstan and the Womens game will rise.

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 01:54 PM

Wie is at +5 today, after melting down so far. Morgan Pressel, the other amateur has the lead.

It's over for the Big Wiesy, unless she's gonna start playing aggressively and make a Tigeresque comeback. But she's not known from coming back when playing down.

This is not so good. Though she might argue that it's more important for her to win against the men when she plays the Men's Pub Links. I dunno, I tend to think winning is winning and winning is good.

I think I'd rather see Morgan Pressel, the top ranked amateur woman out there get the win versus one of the other no-namers at the top.

Annika is at +9.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-26-2005, 02:52 PM

I agree with everything you said. I'm rooting for Morgan now.

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 03:32 PM

That said, I think that this could be a good lesson for Michelle. But the experience of the other amateurs is showing today, because they're not melting down under pressure. I still don't think that's an endorsement for her to play junior golf events, especially since playing PGA and LPGA events now makes her far more marketable for when she does go pro - and whether people like that or not, it's a smart business decision.

Women's golf isn't like men's golf and so she wouldn't have had the Tigeresque impact that she's having now, if she was just playing junior events. We'd just hear about her and that'd be it.

I think her meltdown today is a huge learning experience for her. Even beter than if she'd had held on and won. It'll force her coaches to evaluate and let her adjust accordingly.

She's still ahead of Annika, the gold standard in women's golf. Though she's not doing herself any favours of late.

kingfc22 · 06-26-2005, 04:51 PM

Looks like Pressel will have a chance to win this on the 18th because Kim is in the bunker...

kingfc22 · 06-26-2005, 04:54 PM

Oh My Word!!!!

Eaglesfan27 · 06-26-2005, 04:54 PM

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Looks like Pressel will have a chance to win this on the 18th because Kim is in the bunker...

No doubt.

Nice shot for Michelle on 18. I hope all the haters don't try to talk too much smack on Michelle for not playing well today. I mean, she's got plenty of golf left in her and I think it's fitting if Pressel wins, seeing as she's the youngest player to ever qualify at age 12.

If nothing else, it's been a good weekend for Women's Golf.

And niiicccee shot by Birdie Kim on 18. We got a tournament folks.

I think Pressel is gonna pull it off. If she's got the game, let's see it now.

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 04:55 PM

That shot was out of this world.

MikeVic · 06-26-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Wie certainly looks older than 15. I can't believe she is 6'2" or 6'3" at 15. Didn't she turn 15 fairly recently?

Yeah, I think the same thing every time I see her. HOW is she only 15???

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 04:57 PM

Hmm..looks like Pressel is gonna fall a bit short.

kingfc22 · 06-26-2005, 04:58 PM

It's over.

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 04:59 PM

First Michael Campbell, then Birdie Kim. I think the USGA sucks.

kingfc22 · 06-26-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

First Michael Campbell, then Birdie Kim. I think the USGA sucks.

LOL

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 05:02 PM

I'm kidding. But seriously, what are they trying to do in our American major championship. What would the US Open in tennis look like if they TRIED to make it harder for people to win it?

I mean, I know it's golf. But damn.

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 05:03 PM

Pressel might bogey here.

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 05:03 PM

I'm sure the 4th place person is really happy right now. 2nd place money!

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 05:08 PM

The leaderboard looks like a graveyard.

Michelle tied with Annika for 23rd at +12.

I'm sure the LPGA is really happy that an amateur didn't win.

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 06:55 PM

Apparently, Michelle Wie's 82 in today's final round was her 2nd worst score ever on the LPGA tour. With the way she makes cuts and stuff, seems to me that if she was gonna flub it up someplace, here was the place to do it. Not because she was in a position to win, but more becuase there were lots of others who had the same problems.

Desnudo · 06-26-2005, 08:21 PM

I'm glad the big ole' butts of yesteryear have been displaced by fit hotties.

Wolfpack · 06-26-2005, 09:20 PM

Even if half aren't legal and another quarter are just barely so?

Young Drachma · 06-26-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Even if half aren't legal and another quarter are just barely so?

I'm sure NBC is happy with the ratings boost.

06-25-2005, 03:46 PM	#2
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Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	That shot she just hit to get close to the green was nice. She's going to be hard to beat. Unless someone can string together a streak like Karen Stupples did there with 6 consecutive birdies or something like that. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

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Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	This is my first time watching Women's Golf in a very long time (I'm interested in seeing how Wie reacts to the pressure.) I'm pleasantly surprised to see quite a few attractive ladies are in this tournament. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

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Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	"We has the lead"? What TERRIBLE English...

06-25-2005, 04:11 PM	#12
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I don't remember how old Wie is. Is it bad that I'm thinking impure thoughts about her?

06-25-2005, 04:17 PM	#14
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	It's so weird with these younger players in these tournaments, because they have nothing to say about them. So they have to say things like "did you know what she got on her SAT?" __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

06-25-2005, 04:19 PM	#15
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Wie certainly looks older than 15. I can't believe she is 6'2" or 6'3" at 15. Didn't she turn 15 fairly recently? __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

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Rockstar Mascot Join Date: Jun 2005	I had to double take when I saw the title of the post. At first glance I thought it read "Wife has the lead at US Open". I thought lucky, rich bastard.

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06-25-2005, 11:09 PM	#23
JeffNights College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan	I hope Wie wins....She seems like a nice young lady. AND hopefully with the victory pheraps a nice rivalry will form between her and sorenstan and the Womens game will rise.

06-26-2005, 01:54 PM	#24
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Wie is at +5 today, after melting down so far. Morgan Pressel, the other amateur has the lead. It's over for the Big Wiesy, unless she's gonna start playing aggressively and make a Tigeresque comeback. But she's not known from coming back when playing down. This is not so good. Though she might argue that it's more important for her to win against the men when she plays the Men's Pub Links. I dunno, I tend to think winning is winning and winning is good. I think I'd rather see Morgan Pressel, the top ranked amateur woman out there get the win versus one of the other no-namers at the top. Annika is at +9. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

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Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I agree with everything you said. I'm rooting for Morgan now. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-26-2005, 03:32 PM	#26
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	That said, I think that this could be a good lesson for Michelle. But the experience of the other amateurs is showing today, because they're not melting down under pressure. I still don't think that's an endorsement for her to play junior golf events, especially since playing PGA and LPGA events now makes her far more marketable for when she does go pro - and whether people like that or not, it's a smart business decision. Women's golf isn't like men's golf and so she wouldn't have had the Tigeresque impact that she's having now, if she was just playing junior events. We'd just hear about her and that'd be it. I think her meltdown today is a huge learning experience for her. Even beter than if she'd had held on and won. It'll force her coaches to evaluate and let her adjust accordingly. She's still ahead of Annika, the gold standard in women's golf. Though she's not doing herself any favours of late. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods Last edited by Young Drachma : 06-26-2005 at 03:34 PM.

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kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Looks like Pressel will have a chance to win this on the 18th because Kim is in the bunker... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

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Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Hmm..looks like Pressel is gonna fall a bit short. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

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kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	It's over. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

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Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	First Michael Campbell, then Birdie Kim. I think the USGA sucks. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods Last edited by Young Drachma : 06-26-2005 at 04:59 PM.

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Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I'm kidding. But seriously, what are they trying to do in our American major championship. What would the US Open in tennis look like if they TRIED to make it harder for people to win it? I mean, I know it's golf. But damn. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods Last edited by Young Drachma : 06-26-2005 at 05:02 PM.

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06-26-2005, 05:08 PM	#40
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	The leaderboard looks like a graveyard. Michelle tied with Annika for 23rd at +12. I'm sure the LPGA is really happy that an amateur didn't win. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

06-26-2005, 06:55 PM	#41
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Apparently, Michelle Wie's 82 in today's final round was her 2nd worst score ever on the LPGA tour. With the way she makes cuts and stuff, seems to me that if she was gonna flub it up someplace, here was the place to do it. Not because she was in a position to win, but more becuase there were lots of others who had the same problems. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

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Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Even if half aren't legal and another quarter are just barely so?

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