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Old 06-08-2005, 03:01 PM   #1
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Chad Johnson - The Anti-T.O.?

I love this from the Bengals website.

Whether he thinks he’s underpaid or not, Bengals Pro Bowl wide receiver Chad Johnson reiterated Wednesday what he has said all spring. He won’t hold out even though agent Drew Rosenhaus has gone on record saying he thinks his client is “sorely underpaid.”

My agent doesn’t run me, I run myself. He works for me,” said Johnson after the voluntary practice. “If there was ever any type of holdout going on, it would be going on right now with all the others going on ... (No.) 85 ain’t going nowhere.

“I’m not sure,” said Johnson, when asked if he thinks he’s underpaid. “I would like everyone to look at the numbers and see for yourself and understand where I am and you make the assumption about whether I’m underpaid or not. Don’t leave it on me.”

Johnson, who got a $26 million extension through 2009 during the 2003 season, is second in yards and third in catches in the NFL the past two seasons.

“That’s Drew’s opinion. He has about nine, 10, 12, 15 guys all around the league. No big deal,” said Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis, referring to Rosenhaus’s list of clients that have held out this spring despite contracts. “He’s under contract for six years. What does Chad Johnson like to do? (Play football.) What’s he going to do if he doesn’t do it here?”

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Old 06-08-2005, 03:06 PM   #2
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very refreshing
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:14 PM   #3
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Wow... that's so stunning I feel sick to my stomach.

Anyone know where I can get some Pepto?
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:19 PM   #4
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You are right, this guy is definitely the complete opposite of T-O.
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:19 PM   #5
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I think I just became a Chad Johnson fan.
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:21 PM   #6
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T.O. is helpless against the Right Guard Power Strip. That's all I know.
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:40 PM   #7
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Just in case someone didn't know, T.O. and Chad Johnson have the same agent.
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:49 PM   #8
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I still think T.O. has B.O.
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Old 06-08-2005, 04:09 PM   #9
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I think I just became a Chad Johnson fan.

Bout time, the man is an inspiration for football. Pissed me off when he asked his favorite player, then-Raider Jerry Rice to talk to him after an Oakland-Cincinnati game, because he wanted to 'learn from the best', and then Rice didn't show up. If you watch any interview, Chad Johnson says he wants to be the best of all time, and when like Steve Levy asked him how good he thought he was, he said he wasn't even close to being the best in the league and still had a ton to improve. The man is never satisfied. I love it.
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Old 06-08-2005, 04:54 PM   #10
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The Passion of the Chad Johnson. Now that's a movie I could give a shit about.
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Old 06-08-2005, 04:59 PM   #11
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Personally I don't know if there's a bigger anti-TO out there than Marvin Harrison
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Old 06-08-2005, 05:09 PM   #12
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Personally I don't know if there's a bigger anti-TO out there than Marvin Harrison

Agreed. Chad still showboats too much to be considered the true anti-TO. You never see Harrison show up people with his attitude. He just beats people with talent and lets his play do the talking. He doesn't get enough credit sometimes because people think Peyton makes him better, but the fact is that he is an excellent receiver who is in the top 5 in the league. He conducts himself with class at all times that we get to see. He is one of my favorite players in the NFL.
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Old 06-08-2005, 05:15 PM   #13
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Personally I don't know if there's a bigger anti-TO out there than Marvin Harrison
Here here. All the man does is catch the football, score touchdowns and line up for the next play. I don't think I have ever heard Marvin shoot off his mouth.

Johnson and TO are two sides of the same coin. He may not be the shameless self-promoter that TO is, but Johnson shoots his mouth off reguarly and has insulted and taunted his opponents. I'm not ready to give him a Nobel Peace Prize quite yet.
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Old 06-08-2005, 06:50 PM   #14
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Here here. All the man does is catch the football, score touchdowns and line up for the next play. I don't think I have ever heard Marvin shoot off his mouth.

Johnson and TO are two sides of the same coin. He may not be the shameless self-promoter that TO is, but Johnson shoots his mouth off reguarly and has insulted and taunted his opponents. I'm not ready to give him a Nobel Peace Prize quite yet.

Agree completely and I have been a Bengal fan for 20+ years! But let's not go overboard with the love-in for Chad just yet. It is only a few months until he starts running his mouth to get his name in the news.
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Old 06-08-2005, 06:54 PM   #15
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Marvin Harrison is the Barry Sanders of WR.

Let's hope he wins more SB's.
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Old 06-08-2005, 11:32 PM   #16
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After nine seasons

Marvin Harrison: 845 - 11,185 - 98TD
Jerry Rice: 708 - 11,776 - 118TD

very comprobable, though Rice still gets the nod



Marvin's per 16 games production
Before Manning and Manning's rookie year: 71 - 901 - 11TD
Manning's 2nd season on: 109 - 1466 - 13TD

I'd argue he's a very good receiver who's been made to look even better by the QB, mainly because I've seen it with my own eyes. Imagine if a T.O. or Moss play for the Colts -- yowza. Of course, you could argue Marvin wasn't in his prime prior to Manning, but I'd say it's largely a Manning effect.
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Old 06-09-2005, 01:50 AM   #17
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Also think of who his QB's were before Manning, and the type of offense they had. Manning makes all his recievers look good, but Harrison also is an amazing talent.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:04 AM   #18
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Exactly. It is his talent that allowed him to even get 71 catches and 900 plus yards with those pedestrian QB's before Manning. He is a great WR.
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Old 06-09-2005, 04:34 AM   #19
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After nine seasons

Marvin Harrison: 845 - 11,185 - 98TD
Jerry Rice: 708 - 11,776 - 118TD

very comprobable, though Rice still gets the nod



Marvin's per 16 games production
Before Manning and Manning's rookie year: 71 - 901 - 11TD
Manning's 2nd season on: 109 - 1466 - 13TD

I'd argue he's a very good receiver who's been made to look even better by the QB, mainly because I've seen it with my own eyes. Imagine if a T.O. or Moss play for the Colts -- yowza. Of course, you could argue Marvin wasn't in his prime prior to Manning, but I'd say it's largely a Manning effect.

I think they feed off each other. If Manning didn't have a true #1 to throw to, he wouldn't be the QB that he is. And having a good QB has definitely helped Harrison.
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:30 AM   #20
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Drew Rosenhaus is the anti-christ. Any one see him on PTI last night?
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:36 AM   #21
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Johnson should hold out. He's got a limited time to earn money for the rest of his life. No reason he should make less than the top 3 receivers in the game.
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:44 AM   #22
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I don't understand how showboating is a problem? Some of you right wing nutts need to go punch yourselves in the dick.
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Old 06-09-2005, 07:45 AM   #23
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Old 06-09-2005, 08:08 AM   #24
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Johnson and TO are two sides of the same coin. He may not be the shameless self-promoter that TO is, but Johnson shoots his mouth off reguarly and has insulted and taunted his opponents. I'm not ready to give him a Nobel Peace Prize quite yet.

At least Johnson is funny when he's shooting his mouth off. Whenever I hear T.O. talk, he strikes me as someone with the mentality of a 14-year old.
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Old 06-09-2005, 08:23 AM   #25
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Here here. All the man does is catch the football, score touchdowns and line up for the next play. I don't think I have ever heard Marvin shoot off his mouth.
The TB/IND Monday nighter -- where Keyshawn mocks Harrison during the first half with "This is the guy who's supposed to be the best", then watches him catch two TDs in the miracle second half comeback -- is one of my all-time favorite NFL moments.
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Old 06-09-2005, 10:04 AM   #26
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Chad's a big kid on the field. He truely has fun on the field. That's where a lot of the showboating and smack talk comes from. Most of it is done in a humorous manner that is meant to be just that-funny.

From speaking with him in person a couple times I find him to be very soft spoken and polite.

He is obviously more confident on the field than anywhere else and it shows.

One major difference between him and T.O. is his team attitude. He wants to win and when he doesn't you'll never hear him blaming Carson Palmer or anybody else on the team. Even when he has a great game in a losing effort, he says he could have done more. And NOBODY works harder at Paul Brown Stadium than CJ. He is the anti-TO.
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:28 AM   #27
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The TB/IND Monday nighter -- where Keyshawn mocks Harrison during the first half with "This is the guy who's supposed to be the best", then watches him catch two TDs in the miracle second half comeback -- is one of my all-time favorite NFL moments.
That was a great night... Keyshawn is also an idiot, but no one cares anymore because he is no good.
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