End of an era in alaskan crab fishing

Airhog · 06-08-2005, 07:53 PM

I was watching the deadliest catch, and it said that they are going to do away with derby style fishing, where you try to catch as much crab before the limit is reached.

Apparantly they plan on giving each boat a set amount to catch. I do see the benefit to this, such as trying to reduce the number of injuries and death's each year. However, the crewmen are well aware of the risks. No-one forces them to go out and stay up for 30 hours. Its a shame that they couldnt keep the derby style fishing, while allowing safer controls or something.

Lathum · 06-08-2005, 08:48 PM

I love deadliest catch, is there a link or anything to where you saw this. The dynamics are very interesting, a 1000 questions popped into my head at once.

Desnudo · 06-08-2005, 10:00 PM

Riveting stuff. The risk/reward factor is off the charts.

weinstein7 · 06-08-2005, 10:12 PM

meh. Traif.

Lathum · 06-08-2005, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by weinstein7

meh. Traif.

huh?

weinstein7 · 06-08-2005, 11:14 PM

Crab = Traif = Not kosher.

Which isn't to say it's not damned tasty.

Lathum · 06-08-2005, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by weinstein7

Crab = Traif = Not kosher.

Which isn't to say it's not damned tasty.

huh?

Ksyrup · 06-08-2005, 11:21 PM

I'm not Jewish, but I'll take a stab at this:

Kashrut: Jewish Dietary Laws

Animals that may not be eaten

...

Of the things that are in the waters, you may eat anything that has fins and scales. Lev. 11:9; Deut. 14:9. Thus, shellfish such as lobsters, oysters, shrimp, clams and crabs are all forbidden. Fish like tuna, carp, salmon and herring are all permitted.

weinstein7 · 06-08-2005, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

huh?

I give up

So....how bout those Mets? F'in Zambrano.

Desnudo · 06-08-2005, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by weinstein7

I give up

So....how bout those Mets? F'in Zambrano.

Who?

weinstein7 · 06-08-2005, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

Who?

Lonestar and Princess Vespa.

Instant cassettes. They're out before the movie is finished.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 06-09-2005, 12:54 AM

I feel sorry for the family of thse lost at sea. I would like the show to pay attenstion more to the families of the dead.

stevew · 06-09-2005, 06:45 AM

I love this show. Too bad that the risk/reward of derby will be gone next year. It will likely put some people out of buisiness since it wont be worthwhile to crab for some boats.

gottimd · 06-09-2005, 06:48 AM

Baruch atah Adonai.........

Bo Jackson's Hip · 06-09-2005, 09:26 AM

What is the mortality rate? Can someone enlighten one who has not watched the show?

weinstein7 · 06-09-2005, 09:29 AM

Actually, I do have a serious question about this thread.

Is this sport fishing or commercial fishing that we're talking about? I'm confused.

MacroGuru · 06-09-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by weinstein7

Actually, I do have a serious question about this thread.

Is this sport fishing or commercial fishing that we're talking about? I'm confused.

Commercial Crab Fishing...

Lathum · 06-09-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo Jackson's Hip

What is the mortality rate? Can someone enlighten one who has not watched the show?

I think it was something crazy like 1 in every 6 people get injured/killed.

Bo Jackson's Hip · 06-09-2005, 10:22 AM

Per trip or per year. If it's per trip, WOW.

Desnudo · 06-09-2005, 01:13 PM

This year, a boat went down on the first day of the season. They also had video of a guy going overboard in the middle of the night and barely getting dragged back aboard.

stevew · 06-09-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo Jackson's Hip

What is the mortality rate? Can someone enlighten one who has not watched the show?

You definately need to watch it if you have Discovery channell. Highly entertaining, and they are repeating it all the time.

Airhog · 06-09-2005, 04:40 PM

I heard them say the mortality rate is something like 20% now.

Now ships sinking and such, has no bearing on the type of fishing. I think this will help elimnate deaths/injuries from fatigue, but I think it will also hurt the fishermen. Also, I would imagine the owners of the boats may pay quite a bit less now.

judicial clerk · 06-09-2005, 04:50 PM

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I heard them say the mortality rate is something like 20% now.

No, I think its more like 1 in 5.

Glengoyne · 06-09-2005, 04:59 PM

I wasn't interested in this until I accidentally watched some of it a couple of weeks ago. Since then I think I've caught the whole season because they were showing it in mini marathons.

On the end of the Derby, I understood them to say that the proceeds from the catch would be distributed amongst the participating boats in a predetermined manner. It seems that not all boats will be able to participate in the new system. Sorta like socialized fishing I guess.

As for the mortality rate..it isn't near that high. This year, according to Deadliest Catch, they had six deaths(the season isn't over yet though), and there were 176 boats involved.

DanGarion · 06-09-2005, 05:06 PM

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No, I think its more like 1 in 5.

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Airhog · 06-09-2005, 05:21 PM

You have to remember that is has gotten quite a bit safer. Years ago, the season could last for a whole month. The more time you spend out on the ocean, the greater the risk...

06-08-2005, 11:21 PM	#8
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I'm not Jewish, but I'll take a stab at this: Kashrut: Jewish Dietary Laws Animals that may not be eaten ... Of the things that are in the waters, you may eat anything that has fins and scales. Lev. 11:9; Deut. 14:9. Thus, shellfish such as lobsters, oysters, shrimp, clams and crabs are all forbidden. Fish like tuna, carp, salmon and herring are all permitted. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 06-08-2005 at 11:21 PM.

06-09-2005, 12:54 AM	#12
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06-09-2005, 06:48 AM	#14
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06-09-2005, 04:40 PM	#22
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	I heard them say the mortality rate is something like 20% now. Now ships sinking and such, has no bearing on the type of fishing. I think this will help elimnate deaths/injuries from fatigue, but I think it will also hurt the fishermen. Also, I would imagine the owners of the boats may pay quite a bit less now. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

06-09-2005, 04:59 PM	#24
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	I wasn't interested in this until I accidentally watched some of it a couple of weeks ago. Since then I think I've caught the whole season because they were showing it in mini marathons. On the end of the Derby, I understood them to say that the proceeds from the catch would be distributed amongst the participating boats in a predetermined manner. It seems that not all boats will be able to participate in the new system. Sorta like socialized fishing I guess. As for the mortality rate..it isn't near that high. This year, according to Deadliest Catch, they had six deaths(the season isn't over yet though), and there were 176 boats involved. Last edited by Glengoyne : 06-09-2005 at 05:01 PM.

06-08-2005, 08:48 PM	#2
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I love deadliest catch, is there a link or anything to where you saw this. The dynamics are very interesting, a 1000 questions popped into my head at once.

06-08-2005, 10:00 PM	#3
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Riveting stuff. The risk/reward factor is off the charts.

06-08-2005, 10:12 PM	#4
weinstein7 High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester, NY	meh. Traif.

06-08-2005, 11:14 PM	#6
weinstein7 High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester, NY	Crab = Traif = Not kosher. Which isn't to say it's not damned tasty.

06-09-2005, 06:45 AM	#13
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I love this show. Too bad that the risk/reward of derby will be gone next year. It will likely put some people out of buisiness since it wont be worthwhile to crab for some boats.

06-09-2005, 09:26 AM	#15
Bo Jackson's Hip H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida	What is the mortality rate? Can someone enlighten one who has not watched the show?

06-09-2005, 09:29 AM	#16
weinstein7 High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester, NY	Actually, I do have a serious question about this thread. Is this sport fishing or commercial fishing that we're talking about? I'm confused.

06-09-2005, 10:22 AM	#19
Bo Jackson's Hip H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida	Per trip or per year. If it's per trip, WOW.

06-09-2005, 01:13 PM	#20
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	This year, a boat went down on the first day of the season. They also had video of a guy going overboard in the middle of the night and barely getting dragged back aboard.

06-09-2005, 05:21 PM	#26
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	You have to remember that is has gotten quite a bit safer. Years ago, the season could last for a whole month. The more time you spend out on the ocean, the greater the risk... __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

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