XBox and High Definition

ISiddiqui · 06-08-2005, 09:32 PM

I just got a Sony HDTV and I'm having problems with getting the HD to work with the XBox. The HD works amazing with the cable box and the DVD player, but with the XBox... eh. I hooked up the HD AV pack. I setup the XBox to be widescreen and 480p, 720p, 1080i, etc. The opening setup screen (without a disc in it) comes up in 480p. But whenever I put in a game which supports 480p, the XBox doesn't play the game in that resolution (such as KOTOR II, Jade Empire, or GTA: San Andreas). I wonder what I have to do to get it in the proper resolution, since the setup screen displays in 480p .

Anyone have any ideas as to what it causing the problem?

Daimyo · 06-08-2005, 11:49 PM

Once you plugin in the HD pack there is an option in the video setup for enabling HD. Assuming you got the optical HD cable you also get new sound options.

j51 · 06-09-2005, 12:00 AM

I remember in some Xboxes you have to click both thumbsticks at the memory/music/etc screen to enter 480p mode.

ISiddiqui · 06-09-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Daimyo

Once you plugin in the HD pack there is an option in the video setup for enabling HD. Assuming you got the optical HD cable you also get new sound options.

Yeah, I did that. I set all of them to "yes".

I heard about the thumbsticks thing from another forum, j51. Maybe I'll try that and see if it works.

ISiddiqui · 06-09-2005, 12:46 AM

Hmmm... or maybe my expectations for the graphics weren't warrented? But I KNOW that KOTOR II is supposed to look better that it does on my TV. On "Full" screen mode it just looks streached out.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-09-2005, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Hmmm... or maybe my expectations for the graphics weren't warrented? But I KNOW that KOTOR II is supposed to look better that it does on my TV. On "Full" screen mode it just looks streached out.

KOTOR 2 reportedly has less than expected sharpness of graphics and videos on all TV's. It is one of quite a few complaints over at the obsidian entertainment boards.

ISiddiqui · 06-09-2005, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

KOTOR 2 reportedly has less than expected sharpness of graphics and videos on all TV's. It is one of quite a few complaints over at the obsidian entertainment boards.

Interesting... that could be it. Though I noticed similar stuff with Jade Empire.

I just wish my GTA: SA looked as nice as some of the screenies

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Eaglesfan27 · 06-09-2005, 01:21 AM

That is odd about Jade Empire. I thought I had heard that was optimized for HD TV's. All I know is that I wouldn't judge it by KOTOR 2 alone.

moriarty · 06-09-2005, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I just got a Sony HDTV and I'm having problems with getting the HD to work with the XBox. The HD works amazing with the cable box and the DVD player, but with the XBox... eh. I hooked up the HD AV pack. I setup the XBox to be widescreen and 480p, 720p, 1080i, etc. The opening setup screen (without a disc in it) comes up in 480p. But whenever I put in a game which supports 480p, the XBox doesn't play the game in that resolution (such as KOTOR II, Jade Empire, or GTA: San Andreas). I wonder what I have to do to get it in the proper resolution, since the setup screen displays in 480p .

Anyone have any ideas as to what it causing the problem?

Just a shot:

I'm not familiar with what Sony you have, but some of the older HDTV's (like the early Samsung DLP's) had a range of display settings based on which input you used. For example, with the Samsung you had to plug in one input on the back to set the menu since only one took 480, then change the inputs (unplug the cords and plug in a different input) to one that handles 720p/1080i.

Check on the TV or in your owners manual to make sure that the component input you are using (assuming you have multiple options) can display the 720p/1080i signal.

Samdari · 06-09-2005, 08:11 AM

There is also a setting for widescreen, separate from the 480p/720p/1080i settings. It is possible you are playing in 480p, but do not notice a difference since you have not enabled widescreen?

Also, I have one of the tv's moriarty describes, but I don't think that is the problem - if you try to put 480p into a jack that only takes 480i, you get a message that that input is not supported, or you might get garbage, but it is extremely unlikely that you'd get anything to display.

moriarty · 06-09-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

There is also a setting for widescreen, separate from the 480p/720p/1080i settings. It is possible you are playing in 480p, but do not notice a difference since you have not enabled widescreen?

Also, I have one of the tv's moriarty describes, but I don't think that is the problem - if you try to put 480p into a jack that only takes 480i, you get a message that that input is not supported, or you might get garbage, but it is extremely unlikely that you'd get anything to display.

Good points.

ISiddiqui · 06-09-2005, 12:43 PM

No, I've set the standard to 'Widescreen'

Also my Sony is a 30HS420, which is fairly new, and the plug in ports support all the widescreen (except for, of course, 1080p).

I asked this on another forum and I was told that a lot of XBox games don't support widescreen mode, but are in 480p. I think that may be the problem because a game like KOTOR II looks stellar in 4:3, while looking wierd in 16:9.

moriarty · 06-09-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I asked this on another forum and I was told that a lot of XBox games don't support widescreen mode, but are in 480p. I think that may be the problem because a game like KOTOR II looks stellar in 4:3, while looking wierd in 16:9.

You sould be able to look that up for KOTOR II, I know I've done it for other games (to see if they supported 720p) ... just can't recall where. Perhaps on the xbox site.

Edit: It may state it on the back of the box as well.

ISiddiqui · 06-09-2005, 01:14 PM

Yeah, I played a demo disc last night of some games and Dead or Alive Ultimate looked nice in the full screen (widescreen) mode. So it could just be KOTOR.

GTA: SA is sometimes blurry as well, but I've read that as a complaint about the game... probably because it is so big.

TazFTW · 06-09-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

GTA: SA is sometimes blurry as well, but I've read that as a complaint about the game... probably because it is so big.

Blurry in the times it is not supposed to be blurry?

The game uses a blur effect when you're driving fast or when it's supposed to be hot in San Andreas (gives that heat coming off the sidewalk effect).

ISiddiqui · 06-09-2005, 02:26 PM

Well, I meant in terms of not being as sharp as, say, DoA:Ultimate. I don't mean blurry as in just-woke-up blurry, but as in not being as sharp as other games.

ISiddiqui · 06-09-2005, 02:35 PM

GREAT chart someone sent me on which games support 16:9 and which do not (as well as what HD they support):

http://www.hdtvarcade.com/xboxlist.htm

06-09-2005, 12:46 AM	#5
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Hmmm... or maybe my expectations for the graphics weren't warrented? But I KNOW that KOTOR II is supposed to look better that it does on my TV. On "Full" screen mode it just looks streached out. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

06-09-2005, 01:21 AM	#8
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	That is odd about Jade Empire. I thought I had heard that was optimized for HD TV's. All I know is that I wouldn't judge it by KOTOR 2 alone. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-09-2005, 08:11 AM	#10
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	There is also a setting for widescreen, separate from the 480p/720p/1080i settings. It is possible you are playing in 480p, but do not notice a difference since you have not enabled widescreen? Also, I have one of the tv's moriarty describes, but I don't think that is the problem - if you try to put 480p into a jack that only takes 480i, you get a message that that input is not supported, or you might get garbage, but it is extremely unlikely that you'd get anything to display. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

06-09-2005, 12:43 PM	#12
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	No, I've set the standard to 'Widescreen' Also my Sony is a 30HS420, which is fairly new, and the plug in ports support all the widescreen (except for, of course, 1080p). I asked this on another forum and I was told that a lot of XBox games don't support widescreen mode, but are in 480p. I think that may be the problem because a game like KOTOR II looks stellar in 4:3, while looking wierd in 16:9. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

06-09-2005, 01:14 PM	#14
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Yeah, I played a demo disc last night of some games and Dead or Alive Ultimate looked nice in the full screen (widescreen) mode. So it could just be KOTOR. GTA: SA is sometimes blurry as well, but I've read that as a complaint about the game... probably because it is so big. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

06-08-2005, 11:49 PM	#2
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	Once you plugin in the HD pack there is an option in the video setup for enabling HD. Assuming you got the optical HD cable you also get new sound options.

06-09-2005, 12:00 AM	#3
j51 Mascot Join Date: Oct 2002	I remember in some Xboxes you have to click both thumbsticks at the memory/music/etc screen to enter 480p mode.

06-09-2005, 02:26 PM	#16
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Well, I meant in terms of not being as sharp as, say, DoA:Ultimate. I don't mean blurry as in just-woke-up blurry, but as in not being as sharp as other games. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

06-09-2005, 02:35 PM	#17
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	GREAT chart someone sent me on which games support 16:9 and which do not (as well as what HD they support): http://www.hdtvarcade.com/xboxlist.htm __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

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