Matt Jones: TE, WR or Bust?

flere-imsaho · 04-05-2005, 12:35 PM

WR: It's where everyone says he'll end up, and it's tough to argue with a 6'6", 240 lbs guy who has a 40" vertical and runs a 4.40 40, even if it might take him a year or two to develop. Comparisons to Drew Bennett are being made.

TE: Hey, but with those stats, could he be Tony Gonzalez, mk. II, but better?

Bust: Great stats, sure, but Mike Mamula had great stats too. He'll never develop....

Discuss.

condors · 04-05-2005, 12:36 PM

I would be very happy if the Eagles drafted him and cut Freddie Mitchell

JeeberD · 04-05-2005, 12:38 PM

Jerry Jones is supposedly in love with the guy and wants to go get him, but Parcells is the one running the draft.

Supposedly a scout asked Jones about playing tight end, and Jones responded with something like, "You want me to put on 20 pounds and go from a 4.4 to a 4.6? Why?"

I wouldn't mid seeing him in the silver and blue...

Ben E Lou · 04-05-2005, 12:38 PM

I'd say there's a big difference between a WR and a LB. Of all the positions in football, I tend to believe that WR has much more to do with physical tools and desire than other factors. I'd *love* to see him in a Falcon uniform.

VPI97 · 04-05-2005, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

I'd *love* to see him in a Falcon uniform.

Me too.

sovereignstar · 04-05-2005, 12:45 PM

Go white boy go white boy GO!

TroyF · 04-05-2005, 12:59 PM

Count me as a guy who'd love to see him on my team.

Ksyrup · 04-05-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Count me as a guy who'd love to see him on my team.

Maybe Denver can swing a trade for Cleveland's 2nd round pick and nab Jones.

Ksyrup · 04-05-2005, 01:33 PM

Also from SI.com's "Five On the Rise:"

Matt Jones, Arkansas, Receiver -- Jones has quickly emerged as the ultimate climber of this draft and it's not hard to understand why. The former Razorbacks quarterback has posted freakish numbers this spring. Despite his intriguing size (6-foot-6, 242 pounds), he has run a sub-4.4 40 and has almost a 40-inch vertical leap.

Says one AFC personnel man: "In this draft, [Jones] could definitely sneak into the first round. It might take you a year or two to develop him, because he's a project at receiver, but if you hit with him, you could hit big.''

But cap realities being what they are, Jones is a tricky call. While everybody loves the idea of taking a project player, it takes some moxie to step up and make that kind of wager on the future on the draft's first day.

"If you can't really count on him playing much in the first two years or so, how can you take him in the first two rounds?'' another veteran personnel man said. "He's a great athlete and has great speed, but where do you play him? Right now he's not playing as fast as a receiver because the position is so new to him that he's stopping to think before he moves. He loses some speed at receiver.''

Cap Ologist · 04-05-2005, 01:53 PM

I bet he ends up with the Patriots. Belichick has to be drooling at a guy who can possibly play so many positions.

General Mike · 04-05-2005, 01:57 PM

If the Giants draft him, he'll bust.

WSUCougar · 04-05-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

I wouldn't mid seeing him in the silver and blue...

Detroit, eh?

MikeVic · 04-05-2005, 02:08 PM

I think every team would like to gamble on him in the 2nd round if he's there, but I think he'll go at the end of the first.

Honolulu_Blue · 04-05-2005, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

I wouldn't mid seeing him in the silver and honolulu blue...

Agreed!

ISiddiqui · 04-05-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

I think every team would like to gamble on him in the 2nd round if he's there, but I think he'll go at the end of the first.

Yep... I'd love for my team to pick him up as well.

Passacaglia · 04-05-2005, 02:26 PM

Is Keith Byars really worth a first round pick?

stevew · 04-05-2005, 02:31 PM

I think he would be an excellent replacement for Burress in Pittsburgh. That being said, i hope we either take an offensive or defensive lineman, or try to trade up if one of the top 3 backs falls. There are several other WR i'd rather see us take in the first round, and maybe even another TE(miller).

JeeberD · 04-05-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Detroit, eh?

Fine then, I wouldn't mind seeing him with a star on his helmet...

Franklinnoble · 04-05-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Fine then, I wouldn't mind seeing him with a star on his helmet...

Texans, then...

sachmo71 · 04-05-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Originally Posted by JeeberD
I wouldn't mid seeing him in the silver and honolulu blue...

I would. Ewww, but at least they could make some money in the gay porn circuit.

kcchief19 · 04-05-2005, 04:50 PM

I can't believe the discussion has gone this long without a post from MJ4H.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-05-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Is Keith Byars really worth a first round pick?

I'm a huge Keith Byars fan, but Byars never had this type of speed. I'd love to see the Eagles take him.

finkenst · 04-06-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm a huge Keith Byars fan, but Byars never had this type of speed. I'd love to see the Eagles take him.

didn't KB have pretty decent speed before he broke his foot at OSu?

cthomer5000 · 04-06-2005, 11:29 PM

I'm rooting for him to go very high.

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04-05-2005, 12:38 PM	#3
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Jerry Jones is supposedly in love with the guy and wants to go get him, but Parcells is the one running the draft. Supposedly a scout asked Jones about playing tight end, and Jones responded with something like, "You want me to put on 20 pounds and go from a 4.4 to a 4.6? Why?" I wouldn't mid seeing him in the silver and blue... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

04-05-2005, 12:38 PM	#4
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	I'd say there's a big difference between a WR and a LB. Of all the positions in football, I tend to believe that WR has much more to do with physical tools and desire than other factors. I'd love to see him in a Falcon uniform. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

04-05-2005, 01:33 PM	#9
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Also from SI.com's "Five On the Rise:" Matt Jones, Arkansas, Receiver -- Jones has quickly emerged as the ultimate climber of this draft and it's not hard to understand why. The former Razorbacks quarterback has posted freakish numbers this spring. Despite his intriguing size (6-foot-6, 242 pounds), he has run a sub-4.4 40 and has almost a 40-inch vertical leap. Says one AFC personnel man: "In this draft, [Jones] could definitely sneak into the first round. It might take you a year or two to develop him, because he's a project at receiver, but if you hit with him, you could hit big.'' But cap realities being what they are, Jones is a tricky call. While everybody loves the idea of taking a project player, it takes some moxie to step up and make that kind of wager on the future on the draft's first day. "If you can't really count on him playing much in the first two years or so, how can you take him in the first two rounds?'' another veteran personnel man said. "He's a great athlete and has great speed, but where do you play him? Right now he's not playing as fast as a receiver because the position is so new to him that he's stopping to think before he moves. He loses some speed at receiver.'' __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

04-05-2005, 01:57 PM	#11
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	If the Giants draft him, he'll bust. __________________ Boise Stampede Continental Football League Jacksonville Jaguars GM North American Football League Nebraska Coach FOFC-BBCF Rutgers & Washington coach Bowl Bound-BBCF

04-05-2005, 12:36 PM	#2
condors College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I would be very happy if the Eagles drafted him and cut Freddie Mitchell

04-05-2005, 12:45 PM	#6
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Go white boy go white boy GO!

04-05-2005, 12:59 PM	#7
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Count me as a guy who'd love to see him on my team.

04-05-2005, 01:53 PM	#10
Cap Ologist College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Flower Mound, TX	I bet he ends up with the Patriots. Belichick has to be drooling at a guy who can possibly play so many positions.

04-05-2005, 02:08 PM	#13
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I think every team would like to gamble on him in the 2nd round if he's there, but I think he'll go at the end of the first.

04-05-2005, 02:26 PM	#16
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Is Keith Byars really worth a first round pick?

04-05-2005, 02:31 PM	#17
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I think he would be an excellent replacement for Burress in Pittsburgh. That being said, i hope we either take an offensive or defensive lineman, or try to trade up if one of the top 3 backs falls. There are several other WR i'd rather see us take in the first round, and maybe even another TE(miller).

04-05-2005, 04:50 PM	#21
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	I can't believe the discussion has gone this long without a post from MJ4H.

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