I HATE FM2005 - (J/K)

Flasch186 · 03-31-2005, 04:48 PM

SO I find myself watching both USA World Cup Qualifiers this week and then today I bought FIFA2005......and all of this, ALL OF IT, is due to FM2005. Where is Marc Vaughn, that bastard owes me 35$ for making me give it to EA!!!

Desnudo · 03-31-2005, 04:51 PM

You should buy Winning Eleven 8, it's much better than FIFA.

Huckleberry · 03-31-2005, 04:54 PM

Seriously. I hope you haven't opened FIFA. Return it for Winning Eleven.

Although I guess it's possible that a lot has changed in a year. I bought both FIFA and WE7 last year. Gave FIFA away quite quickly. Haven't even gotten around to buying WE8 yet simply because I'm too attached to WE7.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-31-2005, 04:55 PM

I second those who mention Winning Eleven 8. It is great sports console game. It is my second favorite behind MVP (which is high praise for MVP.)

Flasch186 · 03-31-2005, 05:00 PM

i asked the guy and he said last year WE was better but this year he said FIFA so i went with that, especially considering that they didnt have any fifa's in stock so he sent up the street to buy as opposed to the WE he had. oh well, ill find out.

Desnudo · 03-31-2005, 05:57 PM

No knock on that guy, but I don't know how he could come to that conclusion. I have both and FIFA's gameplay is crap if you've ever watched a real soccer match. The benefit of FIFA is that it has more teams and a more robust dynasty system. But the gameplay is so bad compared to WE 8, that it makes it painful to play after you've tried the other.

Flasch186 · 03-31-2005, 08:02 PM

so far my biggest problem, isnt so much gameplay, per se, but the horrible camera angle choices. They all handicap me.

moriarty · 04-01-2005, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

so far my biggest problem, isnt so much gameplay, per se, but the horrible camera angle choices. They all handicap me.

Oh no ... you already opened it?

Well, maybe you can rent WE 8 just to compare the two. WE 8 has a great 'real soccer' feel to it that makes it great fun to play - especially if you have an action replay or something to download the real teams/rosters and get around the licensing issues.

Marc Vaughan · 04-01-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

SO I find myself watching both USA World Cup Qualifiers this week and then today I bought FIFA2005......and all of this, ALL OF IT, is due to FM2005. Where is Marc Vaughn, that bastard owes me 35$ for making me give it to EA!!!

NOOOOOO ... if you're nurturing a love for football please get ISS (Winning Eleven in some countries) by Konami.

FIFA is a very nicely presented game BUT imho ISS is the only action football game which comes any where near recreating a soccer match, its fluid tactical and great fun to play.

(we have regular matches in the office, even to the level of setting up tournaments etc.)

ISiddiqui · 04-01-2005, 03:49 PM

Winning Eleven 8

Critch · 04-01-2005, 03:51 PM

Is Winning Eleven 8 the same as PES4?

So far I've found PES4 to be a step backwards from Winning Eleven 7. The graphics aren't as good and the controls are spongier and less responsive.

Or is Winning Eleven 8 an improvement over PES4?

Flasch186 · 04-03-2005, 08:54 PM

i rented WE and I have exactly the same problem, the camera angles are killing me. All of a sudden Im somebody, WAAAYYY over here, and im pressing the wrong direction and initially heading the wrong way. PLUS, im ultra confused. argh...its no FM

Marc Vaughan · 04-04-2005, 03:51 AM

WE - Play it 'zoomed out' (as with all action soccer games, the close in camera positions are just for the adverts

).

daedalus · 04-04-2005, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

argh...its no FM

There are no other FM.

FrogMan · 04-04-2005, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by daedalus

There are no other FM.

you sure got that right

FM (as in FrogMan)

Desnudo · 04-04-2005, 03:44 PM

I believe WE 8 has the "Madden View" available. I prefer the TV view and use the radar. I think you can zoom all the way out, but then the players look like peanuts. It takes a little while to get used to, but you'll get the hang of it.

WE 8 is also not an easy game, more of a simulation than any sports game I know of, so that might contribute to the initial frustration.

moriarty · 04-04-2005, 04:17 PM

I probably would start WE in level 2 (2 stars) too until you get the hang of it. Also, be sure to check out the training scenarios, as they do a pretty good job of giving you some practice.

Pumpy Tudors · 04-04-2005, 08:00 PM

I wish you could up the difficulty in Master League mode without restarting. I was playing on 3 stars, but I wanted to go to 4 without restarting. Couldn't find a way to do it, so I actually quit playing.

Anthony · 04-04-2005, 09:19 PM

I just got fired in FM. fucking prick board. they fired me cause i allegedly had a poor relationship with my players which cuased them to underperform.

no....what caused them to underperform was the losing, and you fucks for not giving me money to bring on some good players. yes, we got relegated after i left my English League Two team to take on their League One team with 10 games left in the season, but we had JUST come off beating the 8th ranked team in the league. that doesn't count for anything.

i hope a team in MLS opens up, i can't stand these bad teeth Brits, with their tea and crumpets.

Desnudo · 04-05-2005, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I wish you could up the difficulty in Master League mode without restarting. I was playing on 3 stars, but I wanted to go to 4 without restarting. Couldn't find a way to do it, so I actually quit playing.

You can change the difficulty, but only in the off-season.

Pumpy Tudors · 04-05-2005, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

You can change the difficulty, but only in the off-season.

Oh! Well, then, I'll have to get back to playing.

03-31-2005, 04:54 PM	#3
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	Seriously. I hope you haven't opened FIFA. Return it for Winning Eleven. Although I guess it's possible that a lot has changed in a year. I bought both FIFA and WE7 last year. Gave FIFA away quite quickly. Haven't even gotten around to buying WE8 yet simply because I'm too attached to WE7. __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings

03-31-2005, 04:55 PM	#4
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I second those who mention Winning Eleven 8. It is great sports console game. It is my second favorite behind MVP (which is high praise for MVP.) __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 03-31-2005 at 04:55 PM.

03-31-2005, 05:00 PM	#5
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	i asked the guy and he said last year WE was better but this year he said FIFA so i went with that, especially considering that they didnt have any fifa's in stock so he sent up the street to buy as opposed to the WE he had. oh well, ill find out. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

03-31-2005, 08:02 PM	#7
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	so far my biggest problem, isnt so much gameplay, per se, but the horrible camera angle choices. They all handicap me. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

04-01-2005, 03:49 PM	#10
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Winning Eleven 8 __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

03-31-2005, 04:51 PM	#2
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	You should buy Winning Eleven 8, it's much better than FIFA.

03-31-2005, 05:57 PM	#6
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	No knock on that guy, but I don't know how he could come to that conclusion. I have both and FIFA's gameplay is crap if you've ever watched a real soccer match. The benefit of FIFA is that it has more teams and a more robust dynasty system. But the gameplay is so bad compared to WE 8, that it makes it painful to play after you've tried the other.

04-01-2005, 03:51 PM	#11
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Is Winning Eleven 8 the same as PES4? So far I've found PES4 to be a step backwards from Winning Eleven 7. The graphics aren't as good and the controls are spongier and less responsive. Or is Winning Eleven 8 an improvement over PES4?

04-03-2005, 08:54 PM	#12
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	i rented WE and I have exactly the same problem, the camera angles are killing me. All of a sudden Im somebody, WAAAYYY over here, and im pressing the wrong direction and initially heading the wrong way. PLUS, im ultra confused. argh...its no FM __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

04-04-2005, 03:51 AM	#13
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	WE - Play it 'zoomed out' (as with all action soccer games, the close in camera positions are just for the adverts ).

04-04-2005, 03:44 PM	#16
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I believe WE 8 has the "Madden View" available. I prefer the TV view and use the radar. I think you can zoom all the way out, but then the players look like peanuts. It takes a little while to get used to, but you'll get the hang of it. WE 8 is also not an easy game, more of a simulation than any sports game I know of, so that might contribute to the initial frustration.

04-04-2005, 04:17 PM	#17
moriarty College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: A negative place	I probably would start WE in level 2 (2 stars) too until you get the hang of it. Also, be sure to check out the training scenarios, as they do a pretty good job of giving you some practice.

04-04-2005, 08:00 PM	#18
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I wish you could up the difficulty in Master League mode without restarting. I was playing on 3 stars, but I wanted to go to 4 without restarting. Couldn't find a way to do it, so I actually quit playing. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

04-04-2005, 09:19 PM	#19
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	Muthafucking FM I just got fired in FM. fucking prick board. they fired me cause i allegedly had a poor relationship with my players which cuased them to underperform. no....what caused them to underperform was the losing, and you fucks for not giving me money to bring on some good players. yes, we got relegated after i left my English League Two team to take on their League One team with 10 games left in the season, but we had JUST come off beating the 8th ranked team in the league. that doesn't count for anything. i hope a team in MLS opens up, i can't stand these bad teeth Brits, with their tea and crumpets.

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