Firefox ?

Galaril · 03-20-2005, 08:49 AM

I have started using firefox but was wondering something. It is really fast browsing once it's started up .However, it takes like 1 minute to 1 1/2 minutes to start up is there something that I need to tweak to get this start up faster.

RendeR · 03-20-2005, 09:21 AM

Dunno man, I've never had that sort of delay with it starting. it takes longer than IE or netscape to fully load up but nowhere near that long.

Danny · 03-20-2005, 09:21 AM

It only takes me a couple of seconds.

the_meanstrosity · 03-20-2005, 09:45 AM

Galaril,

Understand that Firefox will not be faster in loading up on Windows than Internet Explorer since IE is integrated into the operating system. But it should be just as fast as any other non-MS app you have.

I believe there is a small tweak you can put on your shortcut to pre-load the application. Here is a link with the information.

http://www.tweakxp.com/article140077.aspx

Karim · 03-20-2005, 01:50 PM

Never had this problem; it only takes a few seconds to load on a middle-of-the-road system.

terpkristin · 03-20-2005, 02:37 PM

I've never had the "long-load" problem either, with any program except Trillian, which takes forever and a day. On a side note, you can make Firefox go a bit faster to load pages pretty easily (you can even do it in another tab so you can keep these directions up here and flip back and forth between the tabs).

I swiped this from another forum I'm a part of.

This tweak makes your Firefox browser considerably faster. Just follow the easy steps below

1. Type about:config into the address bar and hit return.

2. Alter the entries as follows (by double clicking each entry):

Set network.http.pipelining to true

Set network.http.proxy.pipelining to true

Set network.http.pipelining.maxrequests to 2

3. Lastly right-click anywhere and select New -> Integer.

Name it nglayout.initialpaint.delay and set its value to 0. This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it recieves.

If you're using a broadband connection you'll load pages 2-3 times faster now, even if you have a dial-up connection it will still be faster than before!

tk

JeeberD · 03-20-2005, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpkristin

On a side note, you can make Firefox go a bit faster to load pages pretty easily (you can even do it in another tab so you can keep these directions up here and flip back and forth between the tabs).

I swiped this from another forum I'm a part of.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...ad.php?t=34022

terpkristin · 03-20-2005, 02:45 PM

Ok, I could have swiped it from here, too, it seems. Either way, it seemed relevant to bring it up again.

/tk

P.S. For the record, I've had these settings since even before your post on FOFC, from the other site I grabbed it from

lytic · 03-20-2005, 07:53 PM

any clue what step 2 is doing? I'm too lazy to look it up myself.

Tigercat · 03-20-2005, 08:09 PM

In stupid computer people speak, and I am one so i can't speak any other way, its the number of times your computer is requesting to recieve the webpage I believe. Its odd though cause tk's has it at 2, while I've seen it at 20 or 30 other places.

I've played around with it some on my computer, and found that my old model 500PIII works best at 15 requests, so I guess your results may vary? Perhaps 30 was too many for an older computer with dialup, but with a fast computer and DSL the more requests might be better. Two might be too little, however, because even my slow ass piece of crap worked better at 15 rather than 10.

dawgfan · 03-20-2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lytic

any clue what step 2 is doing? I'm too lazy to look it up myself.

I'm also wondering exactly what this is doing and if there are drawbacks to these settings.

Mr. Wednesday · 03-20-2005, 09:19 PM

tk's is at 2 because that is the maximum that setting should ever have. A higher number seriously abuses the server and may lead to action by the server admin. I think it's the somethingawful forums where I saw a more complete explanation of just how this is bad.

The only drawback to enabling pipelining and setting the max connections to 2 is that there may be some old/misconfigured servers that don't support it properly, IIRC.

Tigercat · 03-20-2005, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

tk's is at 2 because that is the maximum that setting should ever have. A higher number seriously abuses the server and may lead to action by the server admin. I think it's the somethingawful forums where I saw a more complete explanation of just how this is bad.

The only drawback to enabling pipelining and setting the max connections to 2 is that there may be some old/misconfigured servers that don't support it properly, IIRC.

Thanks for the info, I might give 2 for a while then just to see how it compares at least. But there are lots of people out there with high numbers, because many of these firefox fixes tell them to put the number "at least at 30"

ageofquarrel · 03-20-2005, 09:33 PM

Been using it for 2 weeks now. Firefox crashed and now I lost all my bookmarks is there a way to get them back.

Mr. Wednesday · 03-20-2005, 09:51 PM

I think a lot of these firefox fixes don't realize the kind of havoc it can wreak on the server side. All they see is their pages loading faster.

Mr. Wednesday · 03-20-2005, 09:55 PM

Dola, reading the FAQ at somethingawful, it's clear that a general "maximum requests" setting should not exceed 2, but less clear what happens with that pipelining setting. I think I got the settings confused... a larger number of pipelined requests should not be a problem for the server unless it exceeds an HTTP spec. Sorry about the confusion.

(But by all means, do not exceed the maximum of two connections, that really does do bad things to servers.)

Edit: FAQ thread here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...readid=1140297

the_meanstrosity · 03-20-2005, 09:56 PM

ageofquarrel,

Do a search on your pc for "bookmarks.html". If you can find that file then that may help you. That is where it stores all of the bookmarks.

sovereignstar · 03-20-2005, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

I think a lot of these firefox fixes don't realize the kind of havoc it can wreak on the server side. All they see is their pages loading faster.

Sonuvabitch! Sounds like I've been supporting terrorism again.

Tigercat · 03-20-2005, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Sonuvabitch! Sounds like I've been supporting terrorism again.

Technically you are the terrorist in this situation. So I wouldn't worry, at least you are being a man and doing it yourself.

Mr. Wednesday · 03-20-2005, 10:52 PM

Do make sure you read my followup -- I might have been confusing a pipelining setting (which may not be a problem) with the maximum connections setting, which pretty definitely is a problem.

Karim · 03-20-2005, 11:17 PM

I just recently downloaded v. 1.0.1 and the default setting has maxrequests set at 4. Doing the above has increased the speed of page loading.

sterlingice · 03-21-2005, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Sonuvabitch! Sounds like I've been supporting terrorism again.

HAHAHAHA!

SI

03-20-2005, 09:21 AM	#2
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Dunno man, I've never had that sort of delay with it starting. it takes longer than IE or netscape to fully load up but nowhere near that long. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

03-20-2005, 02:37 PM	#6
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	I've never had the "long-load" problem either, with any program except Trillian, which takes forever and a day. On a side note, you can make Firefox go a bit faster to load pages pretty easily (you can even do it in another tab so you can keep these directions up here and flip back and forth between the tabs). I swiped this from another forum I'm a part of. This tweak makes your Firefox browser considerably faster. Just follow the easy steps below 1. Type about:config into the address bar and hit return. 2. Alter the entries as follows (by double clicking each entry): Set network.http.pipelining to true Set network.http.proxy.pipelining to true Set network.http.pipelining.maxrequests to 2 3. Lastly right-click anywhere and select New -> Integer. Name it nglayout.initialpaint.delay and set its value to 0. This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it recieves. If you're using a broadband connection you'll load pages 2-3 times faster now, even if you have a dial-up connection it will still be faster than before! tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

03-20-2005, 02:45 PM	#8
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Ok, I could have swiped it from here, too, it seems. Either way, it seemed relevant to bring it up again. /tk P.S. For the record, I've had these settings since even before your post on FOFC, from the other site I grabbed it from __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

03-20-2005, 07:53 PM	#9
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	any clue what step 2 is doing? I'm too lazy to look it up myself. __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

03-20-2005, 09:19 PM	#12
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	tk's is at 2 because that is the maximum that setting should ever have. A higher number seriously abuses the server and may lead to action by the server admin. I think it's the somethingawful forums where I saw a more complete explanation of just how this is bad. The only drawback to enabling pipelining and setting the max connections to 2 is that there may be some old/misconfigured servers that don't support it properly, IIRC. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

03-20-2005, 09:21 AM	#3
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	It only takes me a couple of seconds.

03-20-2005, 09:45 AM	#4
the_meanstrosity College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002	Galaril, Understand that Firefox will not be faster in loading up on Windows than Internet Explorer since IE is integrated into the operating system. But it should be just as fast as any other non-MS app you have. I believe there is a small tweak you can put on your shortcut to pre-load the application. Here is a link with the information. http://www.tweakxp.com/article140077.aspx

03-20-2005, 01:50 PM	#5
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	Never had this problem; it only takes a few seconds to load on a middle-of-the-road system.

03-20-2005, 08:09 PM	#10
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	In stupid computer people speak, and I am one so i can't speak any other way, its the number of times your computer is requesting to recieve the webpage I believe. Its odd though cause tk's has it at 2, while I've seen it at 20 or 30 other places. I've played around with it some on my computer, and found that my old model 500PIII works best at 15 requests, so I guess your results may vary? Perhaps 30 was too many for an older computer with dialup, but with a fast computer and DSL the more requests might be better. Two might be too little, however, because even my slow ass piece of crap worked better at 15 rather than 10.

03-20-2005, 09:33 PM	#14
ageofquarrel H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Feb 2004	Been using it for 2 weeks now. Firefox crashed and now I lost all my bookmarks is there a way to get them back.

03-20-2005, 09:51 PM	#15
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	I think a lot of these firefox fixes don't realize the kind of havoc it can wreak on the server side. All they see is their pages loading faster. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

03-20-2005, 09:55 PM	#16
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Dola, reading the FAQ at somethingawful, it's clear that a general "maximum requests" setting should not exceed 2, but less clear what happens with that pipelining setting. I think I got the settings confused... a larger number of pipelined requests should not be a problem for the server unless it exceeds an HTTP spec. Sorry about the confusion. (But by all means, do not exceed the maximum of two connections, that really does do bad things to servers.) Edit: FAQ thread here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...readid=1140297 __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you) Last edited by Mr. Wednesday : 03-20-2005 at 09:57 PM.

03-20-2005, 09:56 PM	#17
the_meanstrosity College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002	ageofquarrel, Do a search on your pc for "bookmarks.html". If you can find that file then that may help you. That is where it stores all of the bookmarks.

03-20-2005, 10:52 PM	#20
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Do make sure you read my followup -- I might have been confusing a pipelining setting (which may not be a problem) with the maximum connections setting, which pretty definitely is a problem. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

03-20-2005, 11:17 PM	#21
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	I just recently downloaded v. 1.0.1 and the default setting has maxrequests set at 4. Doing the above has increased the speed of page loading.

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