Bills get Takeo Spikes

Kodos · 03-10-2003, 01:06 PM

Bills | Spikes All Theirs - posted at KFFL (http://nfl.kffl.com)

9:03 PT: Bengals.com reports the Cincinnati Bengals have declined to match the offer sheet given to LB Takeo Spikes by the Buffalo Bills. "Takeo has been a good player for the Bengals and in the community, and I wish him good luck with his career in Buffalo," Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said. "Today is the beginning of a new day in the Bengal organization, and in the shaping of the football team under my direction."

I wonder if Corey Dillon wishes that he had escaped when he had the chance...

rkmsuf · 03-10-2003, 01:10 PM

not only that they decided to spend a big chunk of change on Tory James of the Raiders...terrible, terrible...

HornedFrog Purple · 03-10-2003, 01:11 PM

Well they did sign Hardy the other day I think. Maybe that made this a little more reasonable. Not that Hardy is Spikes but it makes a little bit of sense anyways.

Havok · 03-10-2003, 01:12 PM

Poor Marvin Lewis

Its a shame he's now been sucked into the black hole that is the Cincinnati Bengals Organization.

damnMikeBrown · 03-10-2003, 01:43 PM

I'm conflicted on this one. Moron (see title) let the best Bengals defensive player get away. He did this, because of his treatment of him financially, and the lack of the organisation's willingness to succeed.

That said, Spikes was really openly criticizing the organisation (that's my job). The Bungles could've kept him on board, but at what cost to morale and team spirit? He is an outstanding football player, but if he's going to turn cancerous, best to be done with him. He'll get his Pro-Bowl in Buffalo, and move on. The Bungles, hopefully, will get better with a new coach & improved attitude (hey, I can always hope).

I like Hardy a lot. I liked him back at Ill, and I like him now. He's no Spikes, but he's a good solid football player.

On James's signing, well...he's better than what we have, I guess. They did the same thing last year, bringing in Burris. Yeah, he's ok, but nothing like signing a CB on the downside of an already average career. Brown is special. He never misses an opportunity.

rkmsuf · 03-10-2003, 01:45 PM

He was probably offended because they kept spelling his name Spykes...

What is this stop #3 for Hardy now in 3 years?

damnMikeBrown · 03-10-2003, 01:49 PM

One time, once I spelled it wrong. Ok, maybe twice.

Nerf rkmsuf

albionmoonlight · 03-10-2003, 01:51 PM

If the Bengals were not planning to match an offer sheet for Spikes, why didn't they Franchise him so they could at least bargain for some compensation for him (i.e. Price to Falcons)? The transisition tag in this instance makes no sense that I can see.

rkmsuf · 03-10-2003, 01:53 PM

They didn't have enough office staff to complete the paperwork...

scooper · 03-10-2003, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by albionmoonlight
If the Bengals were not planning to match an offer sheet for Spikes, why didn't they Franchise him so they could at least bargain for some compensation for him (i.e. Price to Falcons)? The transisition tag in this instance makes no sense that I can see.

Before he was tagged, Marvin Lewis had a couple sit downs with Spikes, who made it pretty clear that he didn't want to be there. They had to tag him somehow to cover their butts in case they could not land a capable replacement. Had they frachised him, the asking price for another team to sign him would have probably been too high, leaving the Bengals stuck with a huge one year contract for a disgruntled player. Lewis has said repeatedly that he wants players that will buy into his system.

There was actually a good crop of LB's in free agency this season. Enough that no team was going to pay the price of two first round draft picks(the price of signing a franchise player) to get him.

In summary, the Bengals transitioned him to cover all bases until they had him replaced.

Hardy's not as good as Spikes, but his is good. In the end, the bonus the Bills gave TKO equals the sum of the bonuses the Bengals paid out to Hardy, John Thornton and Tory James. James is not a game breaker but he's better than what they had and arguably better than Dre Bly who signed a huge deal with Detroit.

In return for letting Spikes walk, they got three new starters on defense. Not a bad deal for either team.

I'll miss TKO. I like him and his intensity. The Bills got a good(not yet great player.) Very few linebackers can tackle or stuff the run like him. His pass rush and pass coverage skills are suspect, but he is still a good LB. I hope he does well and finally gets his pro bowl. In the mean time, I'm moving on. Thank God Hardy wears #51 and I can take the Spikes off the back of my jersey.

Fritz · 03-10-2003, 02:31 PM

Spikes is still in the AFC, and a pro bowl berth may still ellude him with Lewis, Seau, and Thomas in the mix.

scooper · 03-10-2003, 02:34 PM

He could play outside. That is where he played the last couple years in Cincinnati.

cthomer5000 · 03-10-2003, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kodos
I wonder if Corey Dillon wishes that he had escaped when he had the chance...

I wonder If he wishes he had taken that job flipping burgers when he had the chance.

panerd · 03-11-2003, 02:13 PM

So who gets the orange jersey this year? Johnson? Actually the orange jersey seems to be a curse as either the player gets embroiled in controversy (Dillon/Spikes) or just sucks (Warrick). My personal hope is for Justin Smith so I can proudly wear my favorite college (Mizzou!) and pro team on the same jersey.

scooper · 03-11-2003, 02:16 PM

I'm guessing this year's orange jersey will be either Carson Palmer or Charles Rogers. (Sorry Lions fans, there's a good chance he won't make it to 2)

03-10-2003, 01:10 PM	#2
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	not only that they decided to spend a big chunk of change on Tory James of the Raiders...terrible, terrible... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-10-2003, 01:12 PM	#4
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	Poor Marvin Lewis Its a shame he's now been sucked into the black hole that is the Cincinnati Bengals Organization. __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

03-10-2003, 01:45 PM	#6
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	He was probably offended because they kept spelling his name Spykes... What is this stop #3 for Hardy now in 3 years? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-10-2003, 01:53 PM	#9
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	They didn't have enough office staff to complete the paperwork... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-10-2003, 02:31 PM	#11
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	Spikes is still in the AFC, and a pro bowl berth may still ellude him with Lewis, Seau, and Thomas in the mix. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

03-10-2003, 01:11 PM	#3
HornedFrog Purple Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worthless, Tx	Well they did sign Hardy the other day I think. Maybe that made this a little more reasonable. Not that Hardy is Spikes but it makes a little bit of sense anyways. __________________ King of All FOFC Media!!! IHOF: Fort Worthless Fury- 2004 AOC Deep South Champions (not acknowledged via conspiracy)

03-10-2003, 01:43 PM	#5
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	I'm conflicted on this one. Moron (see title) let the best Bengals defensive player get away. He did this, because of his treatment of him financially, and the lack of the organisation's willingness to succeed. That said, Spikes was really openly criticizing the organisation (that's my job). The Bungles could've kept him on board, but at what cost to morale and team spirit? He is an outstanding football player, but if he's going to turn cancerous, best to be done with him. He'll get his Pro-Bowl in Buffalo, and move on. The Bungles, hopefully, will get better with a new coach & improved attitude (hey, I can always hope). I like Hardy a lot. I liked him back at Ill, and I like him now. He's no Spikes, but he's a good solid football player. On James's signing, well...he's better than what we have, I guess. They did the same thing last year, bringing in Burris. Yeah, he's ok, but nothing like signing a CB on the downside of an already average career. Brown is special. He never misses an opportunity. Last edited by damnMikeBrown : 03-10-2003 at 01:49 PM.

03-10-2003, 01:49 PM	#7
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	One time, once I spelled it wrong. Ok, maybe twice. Nerf rkmsuf

03-10-2003, 01:51 PM	#8
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	If the Bengals were not planning to match an offer sheet for Spikes, why didn't they Franchise him so they could at least bargain for some compensation for him (i.e. Price to Falcons)? The transisition tag in this instance makes no sense that I can see.

03-10-2003, 02:34 PM	#12
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	He could play outside. That is where he played the last couple years in Cincinnati.

03-11-2003, 02:13 PM	#14
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	So who gets the orange jersey this year? Johnson? Actually the orange jersey seems to be a curse as either the player gets embroiled in controversy (Dillon/Spikes) or just sucks (Warrick). My personal hope is for Justin Smith so I can proudly wear my favorite college (Mizzou!) and pro team on the same jersey.

03-11-2003, 02:16 PM	#15
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	I'm guessing this year's orange jersey will be either Carson Palmer or Charles Rogers. (Sorry Lions fans, there's a good chance he won't make it to 2)

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