5 wins = 5 mil/2years

bbor · 01-11-2005, 02:06 PM

WHAT?

Scott Schoenwiess sign with the Jays for 2 years and 5 mil.

Him of the 5-9 and 5+ ERA last season?

Someone please convince me this is a good signing.

albionmoonlight · 01-11-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor

WHAT?

Scott Schoenwiess sign with the Jays for 2 years and 5 mil.

Him of the 5-9 and 5+ ERA last season?

Someone please convince me this is a good signing.

Maybe look at is as not as bad as it seems. Average pitchers are getting overpaid across the league, so there is a bit of a context for this.

rkmsuf · 01-11-2005, 02:30 PM

go have some taco bell and your troubles will fade away.

QuikSand · 01-11-2005, 02:37 PM

I thought there was some hope that last year could have been a bit of a breakthrough for Schoeneweis -- I even drafted him as an endgame dollar pickup. He got off toa rocket start, then faded, and then suffered injuries, and then got put completely on the shelf.

Even so ... I think there is some chance (not a great one) that he works out to be a good bit better than the stats he posted in 2004. I'm not totally wild about the signing, but it could be a good deal worse.

stevew · 01-11-2005, 02:57 PM

He isnt that marginally worse than Kris Benson.

bbor · 01-11-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

go have some taco bell and your troubles will fade away.

Done!

Ramzavail · 01-11-2005, 02:58 PM

hes a lefty.

Havok · 01-11-2005, 02:59 PM

who cares about baseball??

Travis · 01-11-2005, 03:00 PM

Well hey, that's another $5 million over the next two years that we apparently just couldn't afford to give Delgado, but hey, let's sign Koskie, move Hinske to 1st and address our pitching problems with guys not even close to worth the money we'll throw at them, that'll make up for losing a perennial 30+ HR, 100 RBI left handed cleanup hitter who was developing into an above average fielder at his position.

Sigh.

Hammer755 · 01-11-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Well hey, that's another $5 million over the next two years that we apparently just couldn't afford to give Delgado, but hey, let's sign Koskie, move Hinske to 1st and address our pitching problems with guys not even close to worth the money we'll throw at them, that'll make up for losing a perennial 30+ HR, 100 RBI left handed cleanup hitter who was developing into an above average fielder at his position.

Sigh.

Don't forget about the pending acquisition of Shea Hillenbrand (career OPS+ = 98) and his $4.6MM contract!

bbor · 01-11-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer755

Don't forget about the pending acquisition of Shea Hillenbrand (career OPS+ = 98) and his $4.6MM contract!

Can't figure out why they are so hot on this guy either.

Maple Leafs · 01-11-2005, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Well hey, that's another $5 million over the next two years that we apparently just couldn't afford to give Delgado, but hey, let's sign Koskie, move Hinske to 1st and address our pitching problems with guys not even close to worth the money we'll throw at them, that'll make up for losing a perennial 30+ HR, 100 RBI left handed cleanup hitter who was developing into an above average fielder at his position.

J.P.? Is that you?

rkmsuf · 01-11-2005, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Can't figure out why they are so hot on this guy either.

Get him back on the roids and then you have something.

Scott Schoeneweis · 01-11-2005, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor

WHAT?

Scott Schoenwiess sign with the Jays for 2 years and 5 mil.

Him of the 5-9 and 5+ ERA last season?

Someone please convince me this is a good signing.

Well, I can afford to feed my family now, so I think it was a very good signing.

Travis · 01-11-2005, 05:39 PM

Hey, and don't forget the reacquisition of Billy Koch.

Personally, I'd have moved Hinske to DH (until he can prove that he can handle 10 straight grounders and the throw), kept Carlos at first, sure the Koskie move has to be a defensive upgrade over Hinske, then used some of our starters as bait to shore up the pen (and get a real SS). Offensively and defensively this team was nearly there, they *should* have a good rotation next year and have a few extra arms they could have used to improve the pen.

But no, lets have our best hitter walk, and basically use the money saved there to get 3 players that are questionable at best and really don't improve us past where we were with Delgado, brilliant J.P., absolutely stunning.

I shouldn't be so bitter, at least they didn't throw the farm at Woodward, thank goodness he's gone.

Travis · 01-11-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

J.P.? Is that you?

Damn, that single remark hurts worse than when I got traded to the Russians. That cuts deep man

Sorry, just really don't like the moves J.P. has been pulling up until now. Carlos should have been a Jay for the rest of his career too.

klayman · 01-11-2005, 05:50 PM

Yeah, those Leafs suck! Oh wait...I'm in the wrong thread.

Maple Leafs · 01-11-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by klayman

Yeah, those Leafs suck! Oh wait...I'm in the wrong thread.

SkyDog! SkyDog! Klayman's trolling again!

klayman · 01-11-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

SkyDog! SkyDog! Klayman's trolling again!

Damn!

lynchjm24 · 01-11-2005, 09:49 PM

Last spring I spent a week checking out the Cactus League. First game we are milling around the stadium digging up a few beers. PA goes over the starters and Scott Schoenwiess is starting. It's not funny here, but one of the guys I was with just says: 'We flew all the way across the country to see f*#*ink Scott Schoenwiess pitch?'

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 01-11-2005, 10:03 PM

I hope he fares well in the end.

01-11-2005, 02:30 PM	#3
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	go have some taco bell and your troubles will fade away. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-11-2005, 02:59 PM	#8
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	who cares about baseball?? __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

01-11-2005, 10:03 PM	#21
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	I hope he fares well in the end. __________________ Toujour Pret

01-11-2005, 02:37 PM	#4
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I thought there was some hope that last year could have been a bit of a breakthrough for Schoeneweis -- I even drafted him as an endgame dollar pickup. He got off toa rocket start, then faded, and then suffered injuries, and then got put completely on the shelf. Even so ... I think there is some chance (not a great one) that he works out to be a good bit better than the stats he posted in 2004. I'm not totally wild about the signing, but it could be a good deal worse.

01-11-2005, 02:57 PM	#5
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	He isnt that marginally worse than Kris Benson.

01-11-2005, 02:58 PM	#7
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	hes a lefty.

01-11-2005, 03:00 PM	#9
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	Well hey, that's another $5 million over the next two years that we apparently just couldn't afford to give Delgado, but hey, let's sign Koskie, move Hinske to 1st and address our pitching problems with guys not even close to worth the money we'll throw at them, that'll make up for losing a perennial 30+ HR, 100 RBI left handed cleanup hitter who was developing into an above average fielder at his position. Sigh.

01-11-2005, 05:39 PM	#15
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	Hey, and don't forget the reacquisition of Billy Koch. Personally, I'd have moved Hinske to DH (until he can prove that he can handle 10 straight grounders and the throw), kept Carlos at first, sure the Koskie move has to be a defensive upgrade over Hinske, then used some of our starters as bait to shore up the pen (and get a real SS). Offensively and defensively this team was nearly there, they should have a good rotation next year and have a few extra arms they could have used to improve the pen. But no, lets have our best hitter walk, and basically use the money saved there to get 3 players that are questionable at best and really don't improve us past where we were with Delgado, brilliant J.P., absolutely stunning. I shouldn't be so bitter, at least they didn't throw the farm at Woodward, thank goodness he's gone.

01-11-2005, 05:50 PM	#17
klayman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmonton	Yeah, those Leafs suck! Oh wait...I'm in the wrong thread.

01-11-2005, 09:49 PM	#20
lynchjm24 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hartford	Last spring I spent a week checking out the Cactus League. First game we are milling around the stadium digging up a few beers. PA goes over the starters and Scott Schoenwiess is starting. It's not funny here, but one of the guys I was with just says: 'We flew all the way across the country to see f#ink Scott Schoenwiess pitch?'

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